Ian, thankyou. I should added, unknown family, ie family, that have done a similar tree but that we do not know of each other. yes for the known family, we have mostly used myheritage.com and have found a fair amount. I have invited all family who have internet ... 99% & have had a fantastic response from family across the globe. what I dont know of is a single location where say family folk (known and unknown) can say "researching" and which application they use, as each app has a cost.... kind of being at the airport but not knowing what flight a passenger is on. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android thankyou for scotlands people link, I will review. regards irfaan