Hi Thanks Ian for the 1861 census for these Lamonts. I realized that I had put Huron Twp, Grey Co, whereas it should have been Grey Twp Huron Co. Huron Twp is of course in Bruce Co. ANYWAY..the Duncan Lamont whose death record started all of this must be the one born in Torosay Jan 16 1837 according to the IGI as the age given on his death certificate works out to Jan 17 1837..pretty close for times before calculators. I doubt if the death certificates for his parents would show much. They would have died in the 1870's or 80's and the info on the certificates was minimal. The other problem with early deaths is that many people did not bother to report them, although it was supposed to be mandatory. The 1871 Ontario census on the National Archives site is just heads of families but I found Donald Lamont in Grey Twp, Huron Co. It might be interesting to try and have a look at land records. These can be ordered through the LDS, but first try and look at the complete 1871 census. If you can't find it online, it too can be ordered through the LDS. On the 1871 census is an agricultural census which will give the lot and concession for Donald Lamont. If he was still around in 1877 or 1878 there is a site which has transcribed the lot owners from the set of atlases produced for Ontario Counties.....can anyone give me the site...I think it was through the McLennan Library at McGill. There is a site on which most online census are listed: www.censusfinder.com This is not just for Canadian census. I tried to track down marriages for some of the other children and found John Alexander Lamont b Pickering Twp, living in Grey Twp who married Aug 15 1878 in Wingham...can't believe I forgot to copy the bride's name. However, the big find was while looking for Ann who was 12 in 1852 and not expecting to find anything, I got Nancy Stewart Lamont of Grey Twp, daughter of Donald and Mary Lamont who, a spinster at 40, married Feb 27 1884 a widower, James Campbell age 71 at Wingham. So with a Duncan Carmichael and an Ann (Nancy) Stewart in this family, I think we've got the right one! Elaine Georgetown Ontario Looking for McKinnons in Ontario