Looking for some help. Have been communicating (via email) with Colin Garvie in South Africa, who is attempting to trace a Garvie-MacLean connection. He referenced a book, "Memories and Meanings of My Life", by Alfred E. Garvie which mentions a connection. I was not aware of this, so I purchased a copy of the book and will quote here to see if anyone on the list can help. "When William of Orange visited Scotland in 1689 the Lowlands were ready to receive him as King; but the Highland clans rose in rebellion, among others the Maclean clan, on the summons of Viscount Dundee. After the defeat at Killiecrankie, the clansmen scattered. Some of the Macleans settled in Perthshire, and assumed the name Garvie, which is found in a parish register in 1690; and is said to be derived from a Gaelic word garbh, meaning strong or rough. The Garvies in Perthshire claimed descent from Lachlan Maclean of Coll, and the Garvies in Rosshire had a McLeod for ancestor. Three Garvies (John, James, and Patrick) settled at Balgarvie, which had already long borne that name.... The previous existence of the name may explain the modification of the original Gaelic garbh. Whatever be the trustworthiness of these traditions, it is an attested fact that my great-grandfather was employed on the land at Kinfauns at the end of the eighteenth century, and the name is found in burial records there, the usual Christian names being James and Thomas. My grandfather Thomas and hihs brother James were, about 1820, settled as weavers of Paisley shawls in Penicuik, and in the Pentland Hills, and there he found his bride, Jane Sinclair." Colin also provided the following in one of his messages: According to a letter from J C Garvie Macleod to the editor of the Oban Times, Spenthorn, West Park, Leeds (date unknown) it is said that the Garvies of Perthshire "are descended from John Garbh, seventh Maclean of Coll, through one of his sons, probably John of Totaronald." According to him, John Garbh was wounded at the Battle of Inverkeithing, Fifeshire (1651) and did not return to Coll. His three sons (or grandsons) rented Upper Balgarvie, Lower Balgarvie and the Mill of Balgarvie in the Perthshire, Parish of Scone from the Earl of Mansfield. Their descendants were tenants of Muirton, Haggis Hall and other farms near Perth. Now, John Garbh's (or Garve) Maclean, 7th of Coll, was a son of Lachlan MacLean, 6th of Coll and Florence MacLeod - could this be the MacLean/MacLeod referred to by Alfred E. Garvie? There seems to be very little information floating around about the MacLean's of Totaronald. We do know that John, of Totaronald was wounded at the Battle of Inverkeithing : From List of Known Casualties, Battle of Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland, 20th July 1651: Wounded - John MacLean of Totronald, 2nd son of John Garbh MacLean of Coll. The following is information I have collected since Colin and I began discussions: >From the Seneachie, p. 327: The Fourth Cadet of the Family of Coll is descended from John of Totteronald, 2nd son of John Garve, the 7th Maclean of Coll. He was with his chief, Sir Lauchlan, during the civil wars. He and his brother Hugh were among the first that joined the standard of Montrose at Strathearn in the beginning of the year 1646. Both were again with their father's men at Inverkeithing, where the gallant Hugh was killed and John severely wounded, and made prisoner. After the restoration he went to London, and was introduced to the king, who was pleased to acknowledge that he had recollection of his sufferings. Yet, as was not an uncommon custom with Charles in dealing with his best friends, the royal acknowledgment of the importance of his services was the only reward Totteronald ever got. He was married to Marion, daughter of Maclean of Ardgour, by whom he had Allan of Totteronald, who succeeded him. John Maclean of Totteronal had another son called Hugh, of whom was descended Doctor Hector Maclean, late of Edinburgh. >From Clan Gillean, p. 373: John was the progenitor of the Macleans of Totaranald. >From History of the Clan MacLean, by J. P. MacLean, p. 287: John, of Totaranald. >From Burke's Landed Gentry of Scotland, p. 95: John ruadh, ancestor of the Macleans of Totrenald. From: List of Known Casualties, Battle of Inverkeithing, Fife, Scotland, 20th July 1651: Wounded - John MacLean of Totronald, 2nd son of John Garbh MacLean of Coll. The following information was supplied by Edwin Maclean (emaclean@ansonic.comau), but I have not been able to trace the individuals to John, 1st of Totronald: John Ruadh Maclean of Totronald m. Margaret Maclean Children: 1.Allan of Totronald m. Catherine Macleod, dau. of Roderick Macleod of Hammer 2. Hugh in Grimsary Allan of Totronald: (which is 1 above) Children: 1a. Hector - tenant in Totamore in 1776 2b. John 3c. Allan 4d. Roderick 5e. Lachlan Hector - tenant in Totamore in 1776 (which is 1a above) Children: 2a. John 2b. Lachaln in Freeslan, died after 1841 2c. Donald NOTE: I did find a Hector Mclean, as a tenant in Totamore listed on the "List of Inhabitants of the Island of Coll", 2 Dec. 1776, transcribed by Linda Temple & Flora MacDonald and edited by Keith Dash. The problem I have with this being the correct Hector (ie Hector, son of Allan Maclean, 2nd of Totronald), is that the name of Hector's wife in the 1776 census is given as Mary McDonald. The Seneachie says that Hector Maclean, son of Allan Maclean, 2nd of Totronald married Margaret Maclaughlan. The actual listing from the 1776 census reads: Totamore - McLean, Hector Mcdonald, Mary Children: John; Lachlane; Catharine; Donald. The second problem I have with this is, could Hector, son of Allan Maclean, 2nd of Totronald, been alive in 1776? Continuing with Edwin's information: Lachlan in Freeslan (which is 2b above) Children: 3a. Allan, cir 1805 3b. Donald, cir 1806 3c. Hector, cir 1809 NOTE: I did have a marriage record for a "Lachlane" (which is spelled as it was in the 1776 census) McLean, to an Anne McLean, 8 May 1801 Coll Parish, Argyll, Scotland, at the Family History Center, Batch: 7107848, Source Call No. 1235202. For children of this couple, I found the following under Batch: 7127102, Source Call No. 0538942: Allan, christened 12 June 1805, Coll Parish, Argyll, Scotland; Donald, christened 29 February 1807, Coll Parish, Argyll, Scotland, and Hector, christened 26 February 1809, Coll Parish, Argyll, Scotland. Continuing with Edwin's information: 2. Hugh In Grimsary (which would be the second son of John Ruadh Maclean, 1st of Totronald) Children: 2a. John Children: 3a; Hugh, in Knock before 1776, after 1790 (I'm assuming these years are birth and death) Children: 4a. Dr. Hector 1776x1810 (here again, I'm assuming these years are birth and death) Children: 5a: William Swinton 1790 x 1825, married 11/9/1818 Marion Maclean, dau. of Lt. rocerick Neil Maclean (1761-1794) and Christian Cameron - 2 daus. 4b. Dr. Lachlan - Surgeon - 1776 x 1799. (I"m reading this as Dr. Lachlan being a second son of Hugh (3a above). NOTE: As to the William Swinton MacLean listed as 5a above. I have the following: From Blackwood's Edinburg Magazine, Vol. IV, Oct. 1818 - March, 1819, p. 117 - Marriages: 11 Sept. 1818 - In St. Paul's Chapel, York-place, Edinburgh, W. Swinton Maclean, eldest son of Dr. Maclean, to Marion, only daughter of the late Roderick Neill Maclean, Esq., and niece of Alexander Maclean, Esq. of Coll. This Marion MacLean was a daughter of Roderick Neil Maclean (son of Hugh, 13th or 14th, of Coll - died 4 May 1786, and Janet MacLeod, of Talisker) and Christian Cameron, of Glendessary. Marion was christened 30 October 1790 in Coll Parish, Argyll, Scotland. I have listing for three children born to this couple in Blackwood's Edinburgh Magazine - A. Infant, born & died 17 Nov. 1819 in New Laverock Bank, Scotland B. Daughter, born 23 May 1821 in New Laverock Bank, Scotland C. Son, born 30 Sept. 1825 in New Laverock Bank, Scotland Unfortunately, Blackwood's does not provide names of the children. Looking for any help that anyway on the list can give us! Thanks, Linda Bennion