The first line for Euphemia Beaton is a Kilfinichen parish entry in the SR Index (all others Kilninian). Another unnamed McLean birth. 1857 MCLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0007 A different GROS Ref number (and spelling of McLean) to the one below. Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "MANOFMULL" <mullman@mullfamilies.plus.com> To: <SCT-ISLEOFMULL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:22 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Orphaned Names > Although the databases of Mullgenealogy and Mullfamilies are considerable, > many names are still waiting to be 'discovered'. > > Due to people dying, and families moving/emigrating, there are hundreds of > unknowns that never made it to any Census returns. > > Thanks to the members of Mullfamilies, I have purchased the vast majority > of the GROS OPR & SR Indexes of baptisms/births, which list thousands of > names. > > The SR short list below is but a fraction of those names that I cannot > link to existing known families. All these are of Kilninian parish, but I > have many more from Kilninian and also the other Mull parishes. > > It is hoped that researchers of these surnames might be able to identify > some, and pursue others. The results can be posted here for both camps, > but I would be most grateful to receive any BDMs off list. I simply cannot > afford to buy them all. > > There's no point in listing hundreds of names at present, until I see if > there's a good response to this short list. If so, I will continue to list > many more 'orphans'. > > 1901 BEATON EUPHEMIA F KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON /ARGYLL 542/00 0011 > 1912 BEATON JOHANANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0005 > 1898 BEATON NEIL M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > 1859 MACKINNON CHRISTY F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0018 > > 1855 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0037 >> > 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0010 > 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0039 > 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0014 > 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0016 >> forenames > not given > 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0035 > 1857 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0003 > 1857 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > 1858 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > 1859 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0015 >> > > 1911 MACLEAN ALEXANDER M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0004 > 1885 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 > > 1886 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0020 > > one s/o Donald/Marion McLean > 1879 MACLEAN ANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0001 > 1896 MACLEAN CHRISTINA F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 > 1901 MACLEAN JOHN CLARK M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0007 > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk (database 44,000+) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michael, I'm not exactly sure what is meant by an orphaned name, but I certainly do have people who dropped completely off the radar but did not emigrate or even move too far away. They had been 'cleared' possibly more than once and I think they might have been wary of sharing to much info. with anyone in authority. My great great grandparents, Catherine MCARTHUR and Archibald MCKINNON, both born around 1813, only appear on one census, 1841, at Burg, Kilninian with one child, Catherine MCKINNON b. 1839 (later married James MCDOUGALL in 1866). They had at least two more children, Donald MCKINNON in 1843 and Neil MCKINNON in 1847, possibly an Ann MCKINNON too. By 1851, they are all gone. Only Donald is to be found and he is with MCARTHUR relatives. Where is everyone else? We know Neil survived - he was my great grandfather. We think he must have grown up in an isolated place because he never learned to read/write nor speak English. Catherine married locally. On her 1866 marriage reg. it does not say that her parents were deceased, so where were they? I can understand dodging the census taker, but the undertaker??? No death regs. can be found - surely they're not living still? Is this common on Mull? Wondering what the percentage of undocumented people was during those times in that area. Maybe my missing family isn't that unusual. Thanks! Mary Fletcher Harris

Mary The partial list of 'orphaned' names are those that I cannot tie/link to known families at present. The odd one or two might be known to Ian/Mullgenealogy, but I would guess that not all of these are. If any are known to Mullgenealogy, then they are only 'orphans' to Mullfamilies. Many names come to light by researchers buying a BDM for their family details, and submitting the result to the list/website. The purchase of the Indexes gives the complete list of names registered. For the reasons stated, (deaths, work movement & emigration) many of these registered names remain 'orphaned' until the birth record BDM is purchased. Even searching the IGI via Familysearch reveals nothing about many of the Indexed 'orphans'. As far as your own family is concerned, there's no hard and fast rule as to why they cannot be found. Many moved to the mainland for work, and others emigrated. Parents not shown as deceased on a marriage record, should mean they were alive at that time, but if omitted for whatever reason, would mean that they were in fact deceased. I have asked GROS on many occasions to find a death record that should exist but could not be found. They put it down to a 'mystery'. Just recently I added a name (birth record) that was not registered within the required 3 month period. It was eventually registered three years later !!. Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Harris" <r_harris@sympatico.ca> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Orphaned Names > Hi Michael, > I'm not exactly sure what is meant by an orphaned name, but I certainly do > have people who dropped completely off the radar but did not emigrate or > even move too far away. They had been 'cleared' possibly more than once > and I think they might have been wary of sharing to much info. with anyone > in authority. > My great great grandparents, Catherine MCARTHUR and Archibald MCKINNON, > both born around 1813, only appear on one census, 1841, at Burg, Kilninian > with one child, Catherine MCKINNON b. 1839 (later married James MCDOUGALL > in 1866). They had at least two more children, Donald MCKINNON in 1843 and > Neil MCKINNON in 1847, possibly an Ann MCKINNON too. By 1851, they are all > gone. Only Donald is to be found and he is with MCARTHUR relatives. Where > is everyone else? We know Neil survived - he was my great grandfather. We > think he must have grown up in an isolated place because he never learned > to read/write nor speak English. Catherine married locally. On her 1866 > marriage reg. it does not say that her parents were deceased, so where > were they? I can understand dodging the census taker, but the > undertaker??? No death regs. can be found - surely they're not living > still? > Is this common on Mull? Wondering what the percentage of undocumented > people was during those times in that area. Maybe my missing family isn't > that unusual. Thanks! > Mary Fletcher Harris > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message