Good morning Peter > I read your message below in the Mull site and thought that I would > contact you to share my McIntyre relative with you. My great great grandparents - Archibald McMillan and Flora McMillan (nee McIntyre) came to Portland Victoria in 1853 in the New Zealander. They brought with them their children - John, Alexander, Ann and Christy. Their son Angus had come before them. They settled around Branxholme, Vic which is between Portland and Hamilton. When I got a copy of Flora's death certificate (1870), it listed her parents as being Angus McIntyre and Christina McCormack. When I got a copy of Archibald's death certificate (1871), it listed his parents as being McMillan and Christina McCormack. I have some doubt as to whether both of them would have had mothers with the same name - I rather suspect that the informant was not quite clear about the names of these people who had never been in Australia and so were from the far distant past. Their ages were also rather hard to calculate finding them in the census in Mull, and then finding their ages in the HIES records as 60 - noting that the cut off age for HIES was 60. The 1841 Census for Mull has the family in Oskamull ------------------------------------------------------- Flory MacMillan, aged 42, agricultural labourer Cirsty, daughter, aged 11 John, son, aged 8 Alexander, son, aged 4 (note - no Archibald present, and also no Sarah (Marion), Ann, Flory or Mary are mentioned - see below in reference to the grandson Angus McLean who is present in the household in 1851 Census.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1851 Census, Mull ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 1851 Census for Mull has the family of Archibald Macmillan and Flora McIntyre living in Oskamull. District - Ulva and Geometra. Page. 76. House number 19. Archibald MacMillan, aged 64, lobsterman, born Kilninian & Kilmore (Interesting given that he cites his age as 60 for the HIES requirements in 1853). So his birth date would be 1887 - if this age in the census is to be believed. On the death certificate in 1871 - his age is cited as being 95 which means that he would have been born in 1776. Flora MacMillan, wife, aged 60, born Kilninian & Kilmore (Lobster fisher’s wife) Born about 1791. Christian MacMillan, aged 20, daughter (Born about 1831 in Ulva Argyllshire) John MacMillan, aged 18, son, lobsterman (Born about 1833 in Ulva Argyllshire) Alexander MacMillan, aged 12, son, lobsterman (Born about 1839 in Ulva Argyllshire) Angus McLean, aged 4, grandson (Born in about 1847 in Kilninian & Kilmore, Argyllshire) (It should be noted that Anne (29) mentioned in the HIES records is not mentioned in either the 1851 or 1841 Census.) My father's name was Neil McIntyre McMillan and it seemed that in his generation of the family there were lots of children given the names of someone from the family eg Neil McInyre McMillan, Hector McDonald McMillan, Colin Campbell McMillan. I have been looking for a Neil McIntyre as a result because I am almost 100% sure that he would be named after his McIntyre relative. Does any of this connect to your research? I am working in Samoa, but I come from Melbourne. Regards Libby McMillan (ongoing email - libbymcm@optusnet.com.au) > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:17:44 +1100 > From: "Peter Robinson" <tworobbos@net-tech.com.au> > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McINTYRE > To: <SCT-ISLEOFMULL@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00bb01c85fa0$1ca21710$53a44cca@PETER> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi List > > Just joined. > > I am researching the background of Archibald McINTYRE, his wife > Flora, nee McLEAN and their children. > > Various sources indicate that Archibald and Flora would have married > around the mid 1830s but does not tell where. The 1841 census shows: > > Archibald and Flora, both aged 30 > Angus 6 > Mary 4 > Hector 2 > Archibald 1 month > > Information to date indicates that the children were born in either > Kilninian or Tobermory - but that is not entirely clear. > > The 1851 census shows: > > Archibald 40 > Flora 38 > Mary 14 > Hector 12 > Archibald 10 > John 8 > Christina 6 > Donald 4 > William 2 > > Angus does not appear in 1851. May have left home or has possibly > died. Strangely though, he does not appear as a child of this couple > on their death certificates. > > Later information states that all children after Archibald were born > in Ardnamurchan but not the precise location. Neither Donald nor > William survived childhood nor did a later sibling, George. There > was an even later child, a second William, who did. > > Archibald, a blacksmith, Flora, Mary, Hector, Archibald, John, > Christina and the second William migrated to Geelong, Victoria, > aboard the "Hornet", arriving in October 1854. > > I would love to hear from anyone with an interest in, or knowledge > of, this family. > > the older of the tworobbos at Bairnsdale, Victoria, OZ > > > > > Elizabeth McMillan (Samoa) AH - jeanolive@samoa.ws (+685 29585) BH - elizabeth_mcmillan@coffey.com (+685 29 832) (note there is no 'au' at the end of this address) Australian & ongoing contact details: Ongoing email: libbymcm@optusnet.com.au (gets me anytime, any place) PO Box 435, Elwood, Victoria 3184 Australia Tel: +61 3 9531 9372; Fax: +61 3 9531 9347 Harry Petras' mobile: +61 417 032 076 My mobile - when in Australia: +61 417 577 529 HARRY'S NEW EMAIL ADDRESS: hpetras@optusnet.com.au
Hi Libby Thanks for making contact. I have read through the material you have sent but at this stage I can't make a connection. This is not to say there isn't one - just that I can't make it at this stage of my own research. There are some interesting parallels in names though and if I can get further back it may well be that a connection does exist. More work to be done! An interesting aspect is that both families came to the Port Campbell district but, again, may not necessarily be significant. Cheers the older of the tworobbos