Ted,  I assume your Murdoch was b c 1828 Scotland and died 1874 Ontario. Did you have a marriage in Canada for Murdoch if his spouse Mary was only 23 in 1871 census????  was she also born Scotland. I found a Murdoch 1871 census in Elderslie, Bruce Onatrio but with a spouse Annie aged 24!! May I ask which yDNA group you are? ________________________________ From: Ted Mills <[email protected]> To: [email protected] In Elderslie, in 1871, this Allan and Flora were living next door to Murdoch McDougall and Mary (McDougall) McDougall, aged 42 and 23 respectively, and we suspect they may have been related, in spite of the different surname spellings used.  (My goal is actually to trace this Murdoch and Mary back into their Scottish roots, since a living male descendant's yDNA is nearly identical to that of men in my mother's family.) Ted Mills [email protected]