Hi Michael, Where did you find Mary 1819 on IGI, can't see it, nor on 'Familysearch' which I see has only the same baptisms I got at SP. Not disputing the fact there was a Mary (Uisken), as you say she is in the census. But all Mary McArthur's/MacArthur's born around 1819 are to different parents as far as I can see. Had a quick look in opr's for marriage of all McArthur/ Beatons,( for Archibald/Marrion) all spellings, found nothing, nor any children. Nearest I found was ; 10/1/1809- Arthur McArthur workman in Knockvoligan and Marrion Beaton their lawf dau Mary bapt, so she couldn't be the Mary McArthur (Ardalanish) marrying Dugald McArthur in 1807? ( even if Arthur was Archibald ) Margaret (Melrose) On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:02 PM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > hi Margaret - sorry for the confusion. > > I understood what you'd written, but I was expecting to see Ardchiavaig and > Uisken, and not what is actually there :) > > It does look like a case of siblings, yes. > > The IGI also has Mary 1819, and the Uisken couple did have a Mary (census). > This Mary married Murdoch Campbell, and is the one who died Ardchiavaig > 1900 > (very confusing, I know) > > One of the mothers died 1871 Uisken, aged 91. When first writing up the > families, I only knew of the Ardchiavaig one, and placed this death record > against that Mary. With the discovery of the Uisken family, I'm not so sure > I have the entry correct . > > This Mary who died 1871 Uisken has parents Archibald/Marion Beaton. As the > Uisken family had son Archibald, and dau Marion, I'm now in favour of > applying this death to Mary, Uisken (Ardalanish per OPR). Would you agree ? > > Thank you for your input - all helps > > > Michael > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:38 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > Hello Michael, > > re' heads or tails, I don't know which date goes with which marriage' > > Sorry, did you mean you didn't understand what I had written? > > I just wrote the info exactly how it was written in SP opr's, 2 couples, 2 > marriages, 2 different dates > > 1st Dugald McArthur married Mary McArthur on 21 /1/ 1807 Dugald was in > Tireregan and Mary was in Knocknafanaig. > > 2nd Dugald McArthur married another Mary McArthur on 26 /3/1807 ,that > Dugald was from Knocknafenaig and that Mary was from Ardalanish. > (So perhaps the 1st Mary and the 2nd Dugald were brother and sister??) > > No mention or query that one may have been Banns called, they both say > 'were > married', and are on seperate pages. > > SP opr's do not have a birth/bapt for Mary (Uisken) 10/3/1819 only > Catharine > in Ardfeanaig. > > The only other bapt to Dugald McArthur/ Mary McArthur of either place > (Kilf/Kilv) in SP opr's are; > > Donald McArthur 28/4/1810 > Marrion McArthur 8/6/1810 > Hugh McArthur 14/5/1813 > Archibald McArthur 10/6/1815 ( which I had looked up and was Uisken) > Catharine McArthur 10/3/1819 ( which I also looked up and is Ardfeanaig) > John McArthur 1/7/1821 > Catharine McArthur 22/8/1825 > Mary McArthur 11/9/1825 > > Margaret (Melrose) > > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:35 PM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Margaret/Linda > > > > Couldn't the Ardchiavaig couple just have a Catherine bap 1819 same day > as > > Mary, Uisken ? > > > > There is a big gap between Euphemia 1814 (Census - approx) and Charles > > 1823, > > where she could fit. > > > > Do you know if Mary, Uisken 1819 OPR record exists ? > > > > On the subject of parents, I have found Mary McArthur aged 91 dying at > > Uisken in 1900. She looks to be Mary, Ardchiavaig but i'm not completely > > certain. > > > > Anyone have details of the other Mary ?. > > > > As for the two 1807 marriage dates, is it 'heads or tails' ?. I don't > know > > which date goes with which marriage > > > > Any further info welcomed > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > > > > Hi, > > > > The opr's (Scotlandspeople) show the 'Mary' bapt 10/3/1819 as actually ' > > Catharine' lawful dau of Dugald McArthur crofter in Ardchiavaig and Mary > > McArthur. > > Margaret (Melrose) > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:06 AM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Linda - here is what I have on the two families (Ardchiavaig first) > > > > > > 1. MCARTHUR Ann, b. Abt 1808, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 2. MCARTHUR Donald, c. 29 Apr 1810, Ardchiavaig, Kilfinichen and > > > Kilvickeon > > > 3. MCARTHUR Hugh, c. 14 May 1813, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeond > > > 4. MCARTHUR Euphemia, b. abt 1814, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 5. MCARTHUR Archibald, c. 10 Jun 1815, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 6. MCARTHUR Charles, b. Abt 1823, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 7. MCARTHUR Mary, c. 11 Sep 1825, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > > > > 1. MCARTHUR Marion, c. 8 Jun 1810, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 2. MCARTHUR Mary, c. 10 Mar 1819, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon d. 1900, > > > Ardchiavaig > > > 3. MCARTHUR John, c. 1 Jul 1821, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 4. MCARTHUR Catherine, c. 22 Aug 1825, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > > > > It LOOKS as though Mary bap 1819 married Murdoch Campbell (due to age). > > > However, she 'annoyingly' dies Ardchiavaig (aged 80) > > > > > > * I really don't know where Hugh 1813 and Archibald 1815 belong, and > > > hope > > > another lister can help too.* > > > > > > As for John, the younger bap 1821 is of the Uisken family. > > > > > > I found a bap date for another John as follows, also to a Dugald > > > > > > JOHN MC ARTHUR > > > 08 JUN 1805 Kilfinichen, Argyll > > > Father: DUGALD MC ARTHUR > > > Mother: MARRION MC DONALD > > > > > > I'm wondering if Dugald married twice ? This would be discounted if > > > someone > > > knows of more children post 1805 (or indeed much earlier) > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Linda M. Towne" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:27 AM > > > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > > > > > > > Hello all. > > > There appear to be two families with parents Dugald McArthur and Mary > > > McArthur - one in Ardchiavaig and one in Uisken at roughly the same > > > time. I'm hoping someone on the list can help me sort them out. > > > > > > Familysearch.org has two marriages in 1807 in Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon > > > for Dugald McArthur and Mary McArthur: 29 Jan 1807 and 26 Mar 1807 - I > > > haven't yet looked at the OPR to see if there are clues as to which is > > > which (and of course, the OPR doesn't always show an occupation or > > > residence). > > > > > > Does anyone know which family Hugh baptised 1813 belongs to? > > > > > > How about which Mary married Murdoch Campbell? > > > > > > Did the Uisken family have two sons both named John? 1841 census > > > suggests that but ? > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > 1841 Kilfinichen Ardchiavaig > > > McArthur Dugald 55 Agric Labourer Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 55 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Anne 28 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Euphemia 26 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Charles 17 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 15 Y in Parish > > > > > > 1851 Kilfinichen Ardchiavaig > > > McArthur Dugald 69 Weaver Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 69 w Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Ann 42 Ud servant Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Donald 38 Us weaver Kilfinichen > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > 1841 Kilfinichen Uisken > > > McArthur Dugald 55 Agric Labourer Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 50 Y in Parish > > > McArthur John 32 Carpenter Y in Parish > > > McArthur John 20 Apprentice Y in Parish > > > McArthur Catherine 16 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Donald 4 gs Y in Parish > > > > > > 1851 Kilfinichen Uisken > > > McArthur Dugald 68 crofter 4½ ac Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 65 w Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 32 Ud Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Donald 14 gs Kilfinichen > > > > > > Thanks for any and all help unravelling these two families. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > -- > > > Linda MacCormick Towne > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >