Margaret I have to put my hand up and say 'oops' to Mary 1819. She is listed with Catherine's date on my Excel spreadsheet (years old) , and I can only assume I'd entered Mary instead of Catherine For the Uisken family, I will make their Mary 'circa 1819' As for the parents of mother Mary who died 1871 Uisken : Archibald/Sarah Beaton. You won't find the marriage or children, because the OPR records prior to 1804 for Kilfinichen parish were lost. We will only discover children of that couple from their SR deaths, as in this Mary's case. Anyone for tennis ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families Hi Michael, Where did you find Mary 1819 on IGI, can't see it, nor on 'Familysearch' which I see has only the same baptisms I got at SP. Not disputing the fact there was a Mary (Uisken), as you say she is in the census. But all Mary McArthur's/MacArthur's born around 1819 are to different parents as far as I can see. Had a quick look in opr's for marriage of all McArthur/ Beatons,( for Archibald/Marrion) all spellings, found nothing, nor any children. Nearest I found was ; 10/1/1809- Arthur McArthur workman in Knockvoligan and Marrion Beaton their lawf dau Mary bapt, so she couldn't be the Mary McArthur (Ardalanish) marrying Dugald McArthur in 1807? ( even if Arthur was Archibald ) Margaret (Melrose) On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:02 PM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > hi Margaret - sorry for the confusion. > > I understood what you'd written, but I was expecting to see Ardchiavaig > and > Uisken, and not what is actually there :) > > It does look like a case of siblings, yes. > > The IGI also has Mary 1819, and the Uisken couple did have a Mary > (census). > This Mary married Murdoch Campbell, and is the one who died Ardchiavaig > 1900 > (very confusing, I know) > > One of the mothers died 1871 Uisken, aged 91. When first writing up the > families, I only knew of the Ardchiavaig one, and placed this death record > against that Mary. With the discovery of the Uisken family, I'm not so > sure > I have the entry correct . > > This Mary who died 1871 Uisken has parents Archibald/Marion Beaton. As the > Uisken family had son Archibald, and dau Marion, I'm now in favour of > applying this death to Mary, Uisken (Ardalanish per OPR). Would you agree > ? > > Thank you for your input - all helps > > > Michael > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:38 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > Hello Michael, > > re' heads or tails, I don't know which date goes with which marriage' > > Sorry, did you mean you didn't understand what I had written? > > I just wrote the info exactly how it was written in SP opr's, 2 couples, 2 > marriages, 2 different dates > > 1st Dugald McArthur married Mary McArthur on 21 /1/ 1807 Dugald was in > Tireregan and Mary was in Knocknafanaig. > > 2nd Dugald McArthur married another Mary McArthur on 26 /3/1807 ,that > Dugald was from Knocknafenaig and that Mary was from Ardalanish. > (So perhaps the 1st Mary and the 2nd Dugald were brother and sister??) > > No mention or query that one may have been Banns called, they both say > 'were > married', and are on seperate pages. > > SP opr's do not have a birth/bapt for Mary (Uisken) 10/3/1819 only > Catharine > in Ardfeanaig. > > The only other bapt to Dugald McArthur/ Mary McArthur of either place > (Kilf/Kilv) in SP opr's are; > > Donald McArthur 28/4/1810 > Marrion McArthur 8/6/1810 > Hugh McArthur 14/5/1813 > Archibald McArthur 10/6/1815 ( which I had looked up and was Uisken) > Catharine McArthur 10/3/1819 ( which I also looked up and is Ardfeanaig) > John McArthur 1/7/1821 > Catharine McArthur 22/8/1825 > Mary McArthur 11/9/1825 > > Margaret (Melrose) > > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:35 PM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Margaret/Linda > > > > Couldn't the Ardchiavaig couple just have a Catherine bap 1819 same day > as > > Mary, Uisken ? > > > > There is a big gap between Euphemia 1814 (Census - approx) and Charles > > 1823, > > where she could fit. > > > > Do you know if Mary, Uisken 1819 OPR record exists ? > > > > On the subject of parents, I have found Mary McArthur aged 91 dying at > > Uisken in 1900. She looks to be Mary, Ardchiavaig but i'm not completely > > certain. > > > > Anyone have details of the other Mary ?. > > > > As for the two 1807 marriage dates, is it 'heads or tails' ?. I don't > know > > which date goes with which marriage > > > > Any further info welcomed > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > > > > Hi, > > > > The opr's (Scotlandspeople) show the 'Mary' bapt 10/3/1819 as actually ' > > Catharine' lawful dau of Dugald McArthur crofter in Ardchiavaig and Mary > > McArthur. > > Margaret (Melrose) > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:06 AM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Linda - here is what I have on the two families (Ardchiavaig first) > > > > > > 1. MCARTHUR Ann, b. Abt 1808, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 2. MCARTHUR Donald, c. 29 Apr 1810, Ardchiavaig, Kilfinichen and > > > Kilvickeon > > > 3. MCARTHUR Hugh, c. 14 May 1813, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeond > > > 4. MCARTHUR Euphemia, b. abt 1814, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 5. MCARTHUR Archibald, c. 10 Jun 1815, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 6. MCARTHUR Charles, b. Abt 1823, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 7. MCARTHUR Mary, c. 11 Sep 1825, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > > > > 1. MCARTHUR Marion, c. 8 Jun 1810, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 2. MCARTHUR Mary, c. 10 Mar 1819, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon d. > > > 1900, > > > Ardchiavaig > > > 3. MCARTHUR John, c. 1 Jul 1821, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 4. MCARTHUR Catherine, c. 22 Aug 1825, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > > > > It LOOKS as though Mary bap 1819 married Murdoch Campbell (due to > > > age). > > > However, she 'annoyingly' dies Ardchiavaig (aged 80) > > > > > > * I really don't know where Hugh 1813 and Archibald 1815 belong, and > > > hope > > > another lister can help too.* > > > > > > As for John, the younger bap 1821 is of the Uisken family. > > > > > > I found a bap date for another John as follows, also to a Dugald > > > > > > JOHN MC ARTHUR > > > 08 JUN 1805 Kilfinichen, Argyll > > > Father: DUGALD MC ARTHUR > > > Mother: MARRION MC DONALD > > > > > > I'm wondering if Dugald married twice ? This would be discounted if > > > someone > > > knows of more children post 1805 (or indeed much earlier) > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Linda M. Towne" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:27 AM > > > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > > > > > > > Hello all. > > > There appear to be two families with parents Dugald McArthur and > > > Mary > > > McArthur - one in Ardchiavaig and one in Uisken at roughly the same > > > time. I'm hoping someone on the list can help me sort them out. > > > > > > Familysearch.org has two marriages in 1807 in Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon > > > for Dugald McArthur and Mary McArthur: 29 Jan 1807 and 26 Mar 1807 - > > > I > > > haven't yet looked at the OPR to see if there are clues as to which is > > > which (and of course, the OPR doesn't always show an occupation or > > > residence). > > > > > > Does anyone know which family Hugh baptised 1813 belongs to? > > > > > > How about which Mary married Murdoch Campbell? > > > > > > Did the Uisken family have two sons both named John? 1841 census > > > suggests that but ? > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > 1841 Kilfinichen Ardchiavaig > > > McArthur Dugald 55 Agric Labourer Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 55 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Anne 28 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Euphemia 26 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Charles 17 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 15 Y in Parish > > > > > > 1851 Kilfinichen Ardchiavaig > > > McArthur Dugald 69 Weaver Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 69 w Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Ann 42 Ud servant Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Donald 38 Us weaver Kilfinichen > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > 1841 Kilfinichen Uisken > > > McArthur Dugald 55 Agric Labourer Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 50 Y in Parish > > > McArthur John 32 Carpenter Y in Parish > > > McArthur John 20 Apprentice Y in Parish > > > McArthur Catherine 16 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Donald 4 gs Y in Parish > > > > > > 1851 Kilfinichen Uisken > > > McArthur Dugald 68 crofter 4½ ac Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 65 w Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 32 Ud Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Donald 14 gs Kilfinichen > > > > > > Thanks for any and all help unravelling these two families. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > -- > > > Linda MacCormick Towne > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Michael and Margaret, Do you (or anyone) know when either of the Dugald McArthurs died? I'm assuming between the 1851 and 1861 census... Thanks Linda

Linda - I don't have either certificate (if both are available) Mullgenealogy has one death 4 Apr 1859 Ardchiavaig (also given to me by site user) I assumed (as does Mullgen) that this would the Ardchiavaig Dugald - father Charles, and has son of same name It would certainly be interesting to know if the other Dugald died after 1855 Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda M. Towne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > Michael and Margaret, > Do you (or anyone) know when either of the Dugald McArthurs died? I'm > assuming between the 1851 and 1861 census... > > Thanks > > Linda > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message