Donald Thanks for the additional information This would mean that John McGregor and his wife Julia Ann McLean were first cousins What is birth year of Francis John please ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald McIlhagga" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 5:33 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Donald's family > Thank you to Michael and Linda for your attempts to solve my problems. > However, things do move on. Yes, Julia Ann did marry John McGregor in 1904 > in the Mishnish Hotel, Tobermory. A visit to the hotel elicited however > that their own records don't go back that far, so no record of the event > exists there. A pity! There might have been a guest list. > > As you eventually discovered, Lancashire was correct, though how > interesting that she spoke Gaelic by 1901. In fact she and her young > brother Francis John were orphaned in Liverpool as primary age children > and were sent to live with the family in Drumfin Farm, Tobermory, where > they went to school. John's father Alexander was indeed Inspector of the > Poor in Bunessan (I've visited the house he stayed in) and before that on > the Isle of Coll where he met his wife Flora, who was in fact Julia Ann's > aunt! > > Who was Ann Roche? She was Julia Ann's mother who married Donald McLean > (my ggrancfather) who was Flora's eldest brother. And yes, Linda, I too > went down the road of thinking she might have been the daughter of Edward > Roche, until I found that she and Donald married at St. Nicholas Church > (The 'Seaman's Church'), Liverppool, where the record says her father was > Francis Roche (mis-spelled Roach) - hence the name she gave to her third > child, John Francis. The marriage was not at St. Peter's Church, > Liverpool, as you seem to think, Linda. > > So who were Ann Ro(a)che's parents? The probability is that they were > Francis Roche who married Julia Anna on 26th Oct 1924 in Manchester > Cathedral. The interesting thing about the certificate supplied by the > Cathedral is that Julia Anna is her full name. So was Anna her surname > (very unusual), or was no surname used/recorded in 1824? The genealogical > fun continues! > > Now what happened to John Francis? He like his father went into the > Merchant Service. He became a Marine Engineer and married Jean Cameron > McLean in 1899 in Glasgow. They had I believe five children, Sarah > Cameron, Sheila, Annie Roche, Ian and Christina. Three of the four girls > certainly married, though whether they had children I do not yet know. > Ian, born in Glasgow on 3Jun 1908 was alive in 1930 when he registered his > father's death. Again, whether he married or had children I know not. And > I haven't found his death either. > > Again, my thanks. Donald. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message