I didn't want to add to this topic of conversation. I'm not the List owner, nor do I moderate it. I do own, host and moderate groups in Yahoo and they all require leadership. I'll start by saying that it is widely known in mailing list terms that they are not a democracy and there shouldn't be any discussion about how they should be run. Yahoo will tell any subscriber that if they don't like the way a group is run they can start a group of their own. I don't recall having seen any list rules. Ida is the Listowner and should take control. Mull genealogy website has been adopted by the Listowner. There shouldn't be any argument or jealousies because both websites have the same purpose, i.e. having accurate records to display to web site visitors. It will occur from time to time that someone with better information will come along and point out where any record might not be accurate, and be able to prove it. What I do think is that access and administrative issues abo! ut both or all websites should be off list. The listowner has controls and a means of moderating subscribers' posts. I mentioned before that there could be other Listers subscribed here with websites that have a focus on Argyllshire and the islands, including Mull and there shouldn't be a problem. I don't think I have said anything here that is not true. It is clear that when this List is actively engaged in on topic posts it thrives. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "ALEX FLETCHER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ :I agree with both the posters here and if this is the end of it all I'll wait : and see.If Ida continues to attack people, then I will reconsider and pull out, : as researching is hard enough for me as it is and I live on Mull, I don't need : any distractions. Alex Fletcher.

Janet, You are saying that we are not allowed to criticise any part of this group even if we feel we should, but the group/lists owners are allowed to criticise us. SORRY, but that does not happen and if that is the way this group is going to be run then I will withdraw immediately and I will encourage anyone else to do the same. Over to you now Ida as you started this discussion. ________________________________ From: Janet <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 31 July, 2011 13:38:14 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ I didn't want to add to this topic of conversation. I'm not the List owner, nor do I moderate it. I do own, host and moderate groups in Yahoo and they all require leadership. I'll start by saying that it is widely known in mailing list terms that they are not a democracy and there shouldn't be any discussion about how they should be run. Yahoo will tell any subscriber that if they don't like the way a group is run they can start a group of their own. I don't recall having seen any list rules. Ida is the Listowner and should take control. Mull genealogy website has been adopted by the Listowner. There shouldn't be any argument or jealousies because both websites have the same purpose, i.e. having accurate records to display to web site visitors. It will occur from time to time that someone with better information will come along and point out where any record might not be accurate, and be able to prove it. What I do think is that access and administrative issues abo! ut both or all websites should be off list. The listowner has controls and a means of moderating subscribers' posts. I mentioned before that there could be other Listers subscribed here with websites that have a focus on Argyllshire and the islands, including Mull and there shouldn't be a problem. I don't think I have said anything here that is not true. It is clear that when this List is actively engaged in on topic posts it thrives. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "ALEX FLETCHER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ :I agree with both the posters here and if this is the end of it all I'll wait : and see.If Ida continues to attack people, then I will reconsider and pull out, : as researching is hard enough for me as it is and I live on Mull, I don't need : any distractions. Alex Fletcher. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Alex - If I offended you by posting over something you wrote, I apologise. What I wrote were facts. Its up to the list owner how they run and use the controls they have as they occur. I honestly feel that squabbles should not happen in a mailing list. I am sure there are people here who follow what I said about owning or hosting a group. Ultimately, a listowner has the power to moderate any subscriber's posts. I don't agree that squabbles should take place in public, it should all be off list. Ida is in control of the situation. This issue has become an "old cherry", its not the first time. Every now and then it bursts forth into mailings. I understand if Ida may feel that she has a first loyalty to Ian's website and doesn't want to see access to it by subscribers of her list being withdrawn after a squabble that cannot be resolved. Ida has the call about what is or is not discussed in list posts and I think it is courteous not to criticise in public. I offered a solution in what I wrote before that access/admin questions about both websites should be off list; I think it would be more courteous. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "ALEX FLETCHER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ : Janet, You are saying that we are not allowed to criticise any part of this : group even if we feel we should, but the group/lists owners are allowed to : criticise us. SORRY, but that does not happen and if that is the way this group : is going to be run then I will withdraw immediately and I will encourage anyone : else to do the same. Over to you now Ida as you started this discussion.

Okay Janet, no offence taken and again if I caused any offence I'm sorry but I felt that I had to say these things. ________________________________ From: Janet <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, 1 August, 2011 11:18:34 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ Alex - If I offended you by posting over something you wrote, I apologise. What I wrote were facts. Its up to the list owner how they run and use the controls they have as they occur. I honestly feel that squabbles should not happen in a mailing list. I am sure there are people here who follow what I said about owning or hosting a group. Ultimately, a listowner has the power to moderate any subscriber's posts. I don't agree that squabbles should take place in public, it should all be off list. Ida is in control of the situation. This issue has become an "old cherry", its not the first time. Every now and then it bursts forth into mailings. I understand if Ida may feel that she has a first loyalty to Ian's website and doesn't want to see access to it by subscribers of her list being withdrawn after a squabble that cannot be resolved. Ida has the call about what is or is not discussed in list posts and I think it is courteous not to criticise in public. I offered a solution in what I wrote before that access/admin questions about both websites should be off list; I think it would be more courteous. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "ALEX FLETCHER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ : Janet, You are saying that we are not allowed to criticise any part of this : group even if we feel we should, but the group/lists owners are allowed to : criticise us. SORRY, but that does not happen and if that is the way this group : is going to be run then I will withdraw immediately and I will encourage anyone : else to do the same. Over to you now Ida as you started this discussion. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message