One should appreciate the volunteer work of Ida and Ian in their devotion to the List and to Mull genealogy. They should not be subjected to such negative criticism. I am certainly not an expert on websites, but do appreciate the fact that the Isle of Mull has a special meaning to all of us. I think that an apology should be forthcoming to both Ida and Ian from those who have been so insulting to them. Margaret Cameron Long Sault Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: "ALEX FLETCHER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ > Janet, You are saying that we are not allowed to criticise any part of this > group even if we feel we should, but the group/lists owners are allowed to > criticise us. SORRY, but that does not happen and if that is the way this group > is going to be run then I will withdraw immediately and I will encourage anyone > else to do the same. Over to you now Ida as you started this discussion. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Janet <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 31 July, 2011 13:38:14 > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ > > I didn't want to add to this topic of conversation. I'm not the List owner, > nor do I moderate it. I do own, host and moderate groups in Yahoo and they all > require leadership. I'll start by saying that it is widely known in mailing list > terms that they are not a democracy and there shouldn't be any discussion about > how they should be run. Yahoo will tell any subscriber that if they don't like > the way a group is run they can start a group of their own. I don't recall > having seen any list rules. Ida is the Listowner and should take control. Mull > genealogy website has been adopted by the Listowner. There shouldn't be any > argument or jealousies because both websites have the same purpose, i.e. having > accurate records to display to web site visitors. It will occur from time to > time that someone with better information will come along and point out where > any record might not be accurate, and be able to prove it. What I do think is > that access and administrative issues abo! > ut both or all websites should be off list. The listowner has controls and a > means of moderating subscribers' posts. > > I mentioned before that there could be other Listers subscribed here with > websites that have a focus on Argyllshire and the islands, including Mull and > there shouldn't be a problem. I don't think I have said anything here that is > not true. It is clear that when this List is actively engaged in on topic posts > it thrives. > > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ALEX FLETCHER" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ > > > :I agree with both the posters here and if this is the end of it all I'll wait > : and see.If Ida continues to attack people, then I will reconsider and pull > out, > > : as researching is hard enough for me as it is and I live on Mull, I don't need > > : any distractions. Alex Fletcher. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Margaret, you state that Ida and Ian deserve an apology from anyone who has insulted them, if this is the case on my behalf then I apologise. I don't think I have and don't feel I have. As far as I am concerned it wasn't me that started this and I only pointed out that Michael has as much right to run a web site as they have and the point I was making it would be good if they would leave him to get on with it. If anyone else has insulted them then that is up to them. Alex. ________________________________ From: Margaret <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 31 July, 2011 17:45:02 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ One should appreciate the volunteer work of Ida and Ian in their devotion to the List and to Mull genealogy. They should not be subjected to such negative criticism. I am certainly not an expert on websites, but do appreciate the fact that the Isle of Mull has a special meaning to all of us. I think that an apology should be forthcoming to both Ida and Ian from those who have been so insulting to them. Margaret Cameron Long Sault Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: "ALEX FLETCHER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ > Janet, You are saying that we are not allowed to criticise any part of this > group even if we feel we should, but the group/lists owners are allowed to > criticise us. SORRY, but that does not happen and if that is the way this group > is going to be run then I will withdraw immediately and I will encourage anyone > else to do the same. Over to you now Ida as you started this discussion. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Janet <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 31 July, 2011 13:38:14 > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ > > I didn't want to add to this topic of conversation. I'm not the List owner, > nor do I moderate it. I do own, host and moderate groups in Yahoo and they all > require leadership. I'll start by saying that it is widely known in mailing list > terms that they are not a democracy and there shouldn't be any discussion about > how they should be run. Yahoo will tell any subscriber that if they don't like > the way a group is run they can start a group of their own. I don't recall > having seen any list rules. Ida is the Listowner and should take control. Mull > genealogy website has been adopted by the Listowner. There shouldn't be any > argument or jealousies because both websites have the same purpose, i.e. having > accurate records to display to web site visitors. It will occur from time to > time that someone with better information will come along and point out where > any record might not be accurate, and be able to prove it. What I do think is > that access and administrative issues abo! > ut both or all websites should be off list. The listowner has controls and a > means of moderating subscribers' posts. > > I mentioned before that there could be other Listers subscribed here with > websites that have a focus on Argyllshire and the islands, including Mull and > there shouldn't be a problem. I don't think I have said anything here that is > not true. It is clear that when this List is actively engaged in on topic posts > it thrives. > > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ALEX FLETCHER" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ > > > :I agree with both the posters here and if this is the end of it all I'll wait > : and see.If Ida continues to attack people, then I will reconsider and pull > out, > > : as researching is hard enough for me as it is and I live on Mull, I don't need > > : any distractions. Alex Fletcher. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I would have thought that people had got the message by now that the petty bickering has to stop, but obviously not. If Margaret feels the need to praise Ida and Ian for their hard work then fine, but the demand for an apology is just continuing the squabble. It amounts to one side telling the other to capitulate.I felt that we were getting somewhere when we had some civilised dialogue between Ian and Michael. With a little tolerance, we would not have any problem. Jim Morison ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ > One should appreciate the volunteer work of Ida and Ian in their devotion > to > the List and to Mull genealogy. They should not be subjected to such > negative criticism. I am certainly not an expert on websites, but do > appreciate the fact that the Isle of Mull has a special meaning to all of > us. I think that an apology should be forthcoming to both Ida and Ian > from > those who have been so insulting to them. > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ALEX FLETCHER" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:57 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ > > >> Janet, You are saying that we are not allowed to criticise any part of > this >> group even if we feel we should, but the group/lists owners are allowed >> to >> criticise us. SORRY, but that does not happen and if that is the way this > group >> is going to be run then I will withdraw immediately and I will encourage > anyone >> else to do the same. Over to you now Ida as you started this discussion. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Janet <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, 31 July, 2011 13:38:14 >> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ >> >> I didn't want to add to this topic of conversation. I'm not the List > owner, >> nor do I moderate it. I do own, host and moderate groups in Yahoo and > they all >> require leadership. I'll start by saying that it is widely known in > mailing list >> terms that they are not a democracy and there shouldn't be any discussion > about >> how they should be run. Yahoo will tell any subscriber that if they don't > like >> the way a group is run they can start a group of their own. I don't >> recall >> having seen any list rules. Ida is the Listowner and should take >> control. > Mull >> genealogy website has been adopted by the Listowner. There shouldn't be > any >> argument or jealousies because both websites have the same purpose, i.e. > having >> accurate records to display to web site visitors. It will occur from >> time > to >> time that someone with better information will come along and point out > where >> any record might not be accurate, and be able to prove it. What I do > think is >> that access and administrative issues abo! >> ut both or all websites should be off list. The listowner has controls >> and > a >> means of moderating subscribers' posts. >> >> I mentioned before that there could be other Listers subscribed here with >> websites that have a focus on Argyllshire and the islands, including Mull > and >> there shouldn't be a problem. I don't think I have said anything here >> that > is >> not true. It is clear that when this List is actively engaged in on >> topic > posts >> it thrives. >> >> Janet >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "ALEX FLETCHER" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:47 PM >> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] PLEASE READ >> >> >> :I agree with both the posters here and if this is the end of it all I'll > wait >> : and see.If Ida continues to attack people, then I will reconsider and > pull >> out, >> >> : as researching is hard enough for me as it is and I live on Mull, I > don't need >> >> : any distractions. Alex Fletcher. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message