Hello Frances, Here is the 1891 census containing Hector Simpson and infant Mary. There is nothing to say if he is the father of Mary only that both of them were relatives of the head of the house Francis Irvine.. However there is a daughter Annie Irvine around same age as Hector, sooooo, possibly the childs mother. The family are nothing to me and I didn't carry this search on further, leaving that to John if he felt it necessary. 1891-Townhead Glasgow Francis Irvine head wid age 62yrs gen lab b. Ireland Annie dau unm age 18yrs at home b. Glasgow Elizabeth dau unm age 14ys sch b. Glasgow Hector Simpson relative unm age 22yrs Gen Lab b. Forfarshire Dundee James Reilly relative unm age 19yrs gen Lab b. Forfarshire Dundee Joseph McGrory relative age 10yrs sch b. Glasgow Mary Simpson relative age 9mnths b. Glasgow As I said I did not find any births in Dundee for a Hector. There were 6 births for Mary Simpson in Glasgow area 1890-91, I didn't check them all, but did mention 1, as the father was a Francis, so thought there was maybe some connection there to Francis Irvine. Someone mentioned to John that perhaps he should try Tyree, so during my searches I had come across a marriage of a Euphemia McKinnon age 27, in Glasgow to an Angus Lamont age 28, Master Mariner, both from Tyree. Married; 22 Nov 1870. Crow Hotel George Square. Est Church. Parents;John Lamont Farmer / Catherine McDonald (dec) Neil McKinnon Farmer / Marion Munn Witnesses; Alex McDougall , Peter Craig I expect this would be on the Tyree website too. If anyone wishes I can forward copies of the certs. Margaret On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Frances Caple <[email protected]>wrote: > hello I've just caught up with all the numerous messages lately, never > happened before but you've all been more chatty than my quilt lists ;o) > > Margaret thank you for helping John and John sorry if I had not already > given you the info I have on the Hector McKinnon born to Euphemia 1869 > (can't remember date just now) > > I hardly do any family history now but I researched this a long time ago so > from what I remember, > I first learnt that a Hector Simpson was living with my gggrandmother > Margaret McKinnon nee Brown on the census records at the Ross of Mull > historical centre about a decade ago, Linda was always a mine of information > and very helpful, it was Hectors surname that got me soooo interested as my > ggrandfather Dugald McKinnon, Margaret's son married a Mary Simpson, so they > was I sitting in the historical centre thinking my ggrandparents had a child > no one down in London where they married and settled knew about, the only > Hector Simpsons I found born at this time were in Edinburgh and Shetland (I > think or Orkney) the northern isles, then I found Hector McKinnon the one > John has posted about and think it likely the Euphemia is my ggranddad's big > sister, the name Simpson still interests me, I searched for both Hector and > Euphemia with both McKinnon and Simpson surnames always deadends, help > anyone out there help, > > next the Hector Simpson in Glasgow with daughter Mary, Mary!!!!!! when I > found this I thought there HAS to be a connection with my ggrandparents, all > you researchers that go by family names well I searched and searched but > nothing a big fat zero > > the reason for not finding what happened to Euphemia McKinnon b. about > 1847/8 is probably that she did marry and her married name is unknown, I > know I have searched for marriages but those I bought were not my Euphemia, > I don't think I exhusted the list though, if anyone is doing research on the > marriage of a Euphemia McKinnon born about 1847/8 I can sort out the > marriages I have and give info, none are Mull marriages, > > happy searching Frances > > > > --- On Thu, 28/7/11, margaret murray <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: margaret murray <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] roll-call of research interests -Effy > McKinnon and son Hector Mckinnon > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, 28 July, 2011, 13:40 > > Hello John, > > Don't know if this is any help, you may already have. > > The 1871 census (on Scotlandspeople) for Margaret McKinnon in Ardchiavaig > has grandson Hector's surname as Simpson. > This Hector Simpson is again in the 1881 census as grandson aged 11 to > Margaret McKinnon, (in Uisken) but his birthplace is given as Glasgow, > though there are no births for a Hector there. > The 1891 has only 1 record for a Hector Simpson and he is in Glasgow aged > 22 > but gives birthplace as Dundee, again no record of a birth there. This > Hector is in the house of 'Irvine's' and he is a relative. There is also an > infant Mary Simpson in the house aged a few mnths, also a relative. > Only 1 death turned up for a Hector Simpson, in Shetland aged 80 with > different parents. > Can send you copies if you wish > > Margaret (Melrose Scotland) > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 10:44 AM, John Gibb <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Effy mckinnon had a son Hector born 16th June 1868 in Uisken. There is no > > fathers name on birth certificate, I assume she named the child after her > > late father. Young Hector is on the 1871 census living with his > grandmother > > Margaret McKinnon in Ardchiavaig. Anyone know what happened to Euphemia > and > > Hector? > > > > > > John McKinnon Gibb > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

hello Margaret thanks for posting the household which John may find interesting, I have the census but didn't post the houshold as they are not from Mull, there is nothing to suggest Anne is the mother and there are 2 other male relatives of the head in the household, we John, Jim and myself know that our Euphemia was born in Shiaba, Mull, but I and I think John have nothing for her after the 1861 census except for this birth in 1868 which is most probably her but there is that one percent of unknown, also another daughter in this family said she had 2 sisters go to the USA and as there are 3 sisters unfound Euphemia being one of them she may have gone, I have searched in the past lots of ships records and ellis island records nothing, so it goes...... re your other e mail about the list, this was the very first list I found and joined when I first went on the internet summer of 2003, I was lucky enough to attend the gathering on Mull in 2006 and met some wonderful people, it has changed but I guess things do with time, I ignore the bad stuff and enjoy the rest, best thoughts, Frances --- On Fri, 29/7/11, margaret murray <[email protected]> wrote: From: margaret murray <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] roll-call of research interests -Effy McKinnon and son Hector Mckinnon To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 29 July, 2011, 17:37 Hello Frances, Here is the 1891 census containing Hector Simpson and infant Mary. There is nothing to say if he is the father of Mary only that both of them were relatives of the head of the house Francis Irvine.. However there is a daughter Annie Irvine around same age as Hector, sooooo, possibly the childs mother. The family are nothing to me and I didn't carry this search on further, leaving that to John if he felt it necessary. 1891-Townhead Glasgow Francis Irvine head wid age 62yrs gen lab b. Ireland Annie dau unm age 18yrs at home b. Glasgow Elizabeth dau unm age 14ys sch b. Glasgow Hector Simpson relative unm age 22yrs Gen Lab b. Forfarshire Dundee James Reilly relative unm age 19yrs gen Lab b. Forfarshire Dundee Joseph McGrory relative age 10yrs sch b. Glasgow Mary Simpson relative age 9mnths b. Glasgow As I said I did not find any births in Dundee for a Hector. There were 6 births for Mary Simpson in Glasgow area 1890-91, I didn't check them all, but did mention 1, as the father was a Francis, so thought there was maybe some connection there to Francis Irvine. Someone mentioned to John that perhaps he should try Tyree, so during my searches I had come across a marriage of a Euphemia McKinnon age 27, in Glasgow to an Angus Lamont age 28, Master Mariner, both from Tyree. Married; 22 Nov 1870. Crow Hotel George Square. Est Church. Parents;John Lamont Farmer / Catherine McDonald (dec)             Neil McKinnon Farmer / Marion Munn Witnesses; Alex McDougall , Peter Craig I expect this would be on the Tyree website too. If anyone wishes I can forward copies of the certs. Margaret

Hi Frances If you can't locate your Hector one way then you might have to check out the other possibilities. Even though these aren't listed as Mull residents (:-))) To add to Margaret's finding in 1891 the Francis Irvine is listed as a widow in 1881 at Dwelling: 174 Millburn St Census Place: Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203639 GRO Ref Volume 644-3 EnumDist 54 Page 19 Marr Age Sex Birthplace David DOWNIE M 33 M Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Carter Matilda DOWNIE M 33 F Ireland Rel: Wife Mary DOWNIE U 15 F Ireland Rel: Daur Occ: Potter (Cups) Maggie DOWNIE U 12 F Ireland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar David DOWNIE 6 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Elizabeth DOWNIE 4 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Francis IRVINE W 40 M Ireland Rel: Boarder Occ: Lab (In Sand Quarry) Francis IRVINE 14 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Potter Sqeezer Annie IRVINE 8 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar Elizabeth IRVINE 3 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Boarder with a possibility for the James Reilly below Dwelling: 222 Overgate Census Place: Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203481 GRO Ref Volume 282-2 EnumDist 4 Page 23 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John REILLY M 51 M Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Licensed Broker Catherine REILLY M 50 F Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Housekeeper John REILLY U 21 M Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Joiner Charles REILLY U 14 M Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Jute Preparer James REILLY U 9 M Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Mary REILLY U 23 F Dundee, Forfar, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Power Loom Jute Weaver James MC CAFFREY U 39 M Dundee, Forfar, Scotland good luck Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] roll-call of research interests -Effy McKinnon and son Hector Mckinnon > Hello Frances, > > Here is the 1891 census containing Hector Simpson and infant Mary. > There is nothing to say if he is the father of Mary only that both of them > were relatives of the head of the house Francis Irvine.. However there is > a > daughter Annie Irvine around same age as Hector, sooooo, possibly the > childs > mother. The family are nothing to me and I didn't carry this search on > further, leaving that to John if he felt it necessary. > 1891-Townhead Glasgow > Francis Irvine head wid age 62yrs gen lab b. Ireland > Annie dau unm age 18yrs at home b. Glasgow > Elizabeth dau unm age 14ys sch b. Glasgow > Hector Simpson relative unm age 22yrs Gen Lab b. Forfarshire Dundee > James Reilly relative unm age 19yrs gen Lab b. Forfarshire Dundee > Joseph McGrory relative age 10yrs sch b. Glasgow > Mary Simpson relative age 9mnths b. Glasgow > > As I said I did not find any births in Dundee for a Hector. > There were 6 births for Mary Simpson in Glasgow area 1890-91, I didn't > check > them all, but did mention 1, as the father was a Francis, so thought there > was maybe some connection there to Francis Irvine. >