Another fact that underscores Louise's point is that Manilla is located on the border of Brock and Mariposa Townships, although technically, it is located in Mariposa. Garth ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Louise MacDougall [[email protected]] Sent: December 7, 2011 2:17 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCT-ARL-TIREE] Marriages found in Mariposa Victoria Co., Ont that have Mull and Tiree as birthplaces Hi Ida, This is a good point you have raised in general about Mariposa Township, Victoria County marriages for Tiree and Mull folk who emigrated to Canada and settled in Ontario. What I would like to add is that the bride and groom may never have actually lived in Mariposa Township, despite it being the place of marriage for many of them. It took me a long time to figure this out, mainly thanks to Betty MacKinnon who first pointed it out to me by finding my Mary McDougall's marriage to my Donald Clark (yes I'm related to both of them, it was a first cousin marriage). They were married 03 Feb 1852 in the town of Manilla, Mariposa Township, Victoria County where I would have never considered looking because they lived in a different jurisdiction: Brock Township, (old) Ontario County. I then found out that, at the time, Manilla had a population of over 700 and boasted of 5 (FIVE!) churches. Logically then, Manilla was likely where most of the Tiree folk, who were concentrated around the 7th and 8th concessions of Brock township, attended church, since the Manilla churches would have been the closest ones to them even though they were in the a different county. It was a confusing situation because these Tiree folk would be married in Mariposa Township,Victoria County where they never resided (except for a few who settled just over the border of the two townships, in Mariposa). But then they would be buried in the Scotch Cemetery in Brock Township where they actually lived. The reason of course was that, though the Tiree folk had had their own cemetery in Brock on the 8th Concession since the 1830's, to my knowledge there was likely never a church associated with that cemetery. I don't think that the Mull folk in Brock Township were in the same predicament. I understand that the main Mull settlement in Brock township was around the Wick/McNeill cemetery which did have a church associated with it. That is the more usual scenario i.e. a cemetery grows up around the church which the people attend and so they are married and buried as part of that same congregation. Of course, both Tiree and Mull folk living closer to the the town of Sunderland, Brock Township would have been married and buried there. I would say that a researcher is quite likely to find Tiree folk from Brock Township being married in the neighbouring township and county of Mariposa, Victoria. And possibly also a few Mull folk from Brock Township might have married across the border in Mariposa for a variety of reasons too. If someone else can add more to this description please do, Louise MacDougall Vancouver, BC ________________ webmaster: http://www.tireegathering.com . ----- Original Message ----- From: Merle & Ida King <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 9:29 am Subject: [SCT-ARL-TIREE] Marriages found in Mariposa Victoria Co., Ont that have Mull and Tiree as birthplaces To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] > Hi All > > Sorry for the duplication on both list but it so the Archives > will get a copy of the posting > > Matheson Donald, 24 Mariposa, Islay Sct s/o Neil & Martha > (Morrison) married 1 Oct 1868 Catherine McKinnon, 24, Mariposa, > Tiree Sct, d/o John & Grace (Campbell) Co Marriage Register > Victoria Co., Ont. Marriages 1858-1868 vol 25 > > From the IGI in Tyree/Tiree John McKinnon & Grace Campbell marry > Mar 29 1837 Tyree. Have the following children Mary Jun 15-Jul > 13 1838, Donald Dec 16-22 1839, Catherine Feb 20 1842, Hector > Nov 7-Dec 14 1845, Archibald Nov 7-Dec 14 1845, another > Catherine May 12-30 1847, Flora May 12 1847, another Catherine > May 27-Jun 23 1850. Any additional information is always appreciated > > 　 > > McQuarrie John, 24 Mariposa, Scotland, s/o Donald & Margaret > (McFadden) married 26 Jan 1860 Catherine McDougall 20, Mariposa, > Scotland, d/o Archibald & Margaret Co Marriage Register Victoria > Co., Ont. Marriages 1858-1868 vol 25 These appear to be Donald > McQuarrie his wife Margaret McFadden/McFadyen who were in 1841 > at Tiregoil KLF who emigrated on the Barlow for Montreal Jun > 1849 I haven’t figured out who the McDougall family is yet. Any > additional information is always appreciated > > 　Ida > > 　 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ARL- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message