Since the original emails on Ted's McDougall quest I must confess I have not followed these recent replies in depth(but will do ) I am a g'daughter of a male MacDougall with roots back to Neil McDougall and Effie (Gaelic Oighrig) McPhail who were in Torosay when children were born late 1700s - early 1800s as MCLULLICH. Later records show them as McDougall MacDougall. In 1841 my NEIL McDougall app 70 years is in Garmony with Effie. Some of the sons I have documented well on Mainland Scotland. Ted if we ever find a direct link from your line to mine then maybe one of my living male McDougall could test yDna. (I have had my brother tested for our Paternal line and it is such interesting stuff.) Anyone else Please if you can help me anymore with who my Neil b c 1760s was son of - would be great! Certainly in Torosay for children's births and Garmony Kinlochspelve 1841. Could he be born 1767 app to a Donald in Kilpatrick? In whic case he had a brother Archibald b c 1775. Tricia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ted Mills Sent: 13 December 2011 8:09 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] SCT-ISLEOFMULL Digest, Vol 6, Issue 297 Dear Elizabeth, Louise, Ida: I am grateful for the attention you have given to my request and for all the information shared - the legendaryhelpfulness of the genealogy community has again been demonstrated! I have a couple of questions, and then (below) some replies to your posts. Question 1: Can you explain how a McLucais family can become a McDougall family? Are there naming conventions peculiar to Scottish families of that time? A switch from MacKinnon to McKinney makes more intuitive sense to me, if only on phonic grounds. Question 2: What is "KandK" presumably in Mull?