Kym Thank you, but don't stop there ! I don't have a Margaret Beaton as d/o Malcolm/Flora Perhaps you can add more as to when born, where married, husband's parents, children etc............. ? Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kym Lawrence" <kymlawrence@rogers.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question > Her parents Malcolm Beaton & Flora McCormick m. Kilfinichen & she was born > there also. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MF > Sent: August-28-13 12:26 PM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question > > Kym > > Where please for the 1827 marriage of Neil Campbell/Margaret Beaton ? > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kym Lawrence" <kymlawrence@rogers.com> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:01 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question > > >>I have a Mary Margaret Beaton m. Neil Campbell in 1827. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MF >> Sent: July-31-13 5:09 AM >> To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question >> >> >> Neil Campbell/Marion also had a daughter Christina >> >> 25 Apr 1845 Barony, Glasgow, and Marion/Sarah 1841 from Census >> >> The 1841 below gives Mary as opposed to Margaret for 1836 birth/bap. >> These >> two names are constantly mixed up in transcription >> >> 1841 Census >> Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 19 >> Civil >> Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Martyrs >> Folio: 232 Page: 11 >> Address: Parson Street >> CAMPBELL Neil M 25 Agricultural Labourer Outside Census County >> (1841) >> CAMPBELL Sarah F 30 Outside Census County (1841) >> CAMPBELL Mary F 5 Lanarkshire >> CAMPBELL Sarah F 2m Lanarkshire >> >> >> Michael >> www.mullfamilies.co.uk >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> >> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:07 AM >> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question >> >> >>> So is Mary a brother to Duncan ? >>> >>> *Niel CAMPBELL* Birth : Estimated 1794 Baptised : Died : >>> Buried : Father >>> : Mother : Marriage 1 : Marion >>> BEATON<http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=24519> >>> Children Mary <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=24520>(bir) >>> About 1833 - 30 December 1866 >>> >>> >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> >>> On 30 July 2013 20:37, Linda M. Towne <manateemum@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I was looking at the following census transription from Ian's site and >>>> am wondering if anyone has identified Duncan Campbell (born c. 1843) or >>>> Malcolm MacGilvray (born c. 1837). I believe Margaret Campbell is a >>>> grand-daugter of Mary (McKinnon) Beaton - born 3 Jan 1836 Barony to >>>> Neil >>>> Campbell/Marion Beaton. >>>> >>>> It's possible Duncan is Margaret's brother but that's pure conjecture. >>>> >>>> 1851 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : Page No : 118 House >>>> No : 4 Locality : Kinloch Sgridain 185120640 >>>> Beaton Mary 75 W cottar Kilfinichen >>>> Beaton Murdoch 36 Us agr labr Kilfinichen >>>> Campbell Margaret 15 v Glasgow >>>> Campbell Duncan 8 V Glasgow >>>> MacGilvray Malcolm 14 v Glasgow >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Linda >>>> www.ancestralplaces.co.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
James I had wondered if the name was meant to be Blane. On the OPR it would be that but for the backward loop as per other letter Ds elsewhere Even with that thought I only looked under Gaelic names beginning with B Your idea best so far (from old Irish Blaan) even though Saint Blaan/Blane was a man :) Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Beaton" <james_beaton18@hotmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean=McEachern > The only explanation I can offer is the Gaelic Saint Blaan. It is > certainly very unusual. > > James > > Sent from my iPad > > On 28 Aug 2013, at 17:47, "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> wrote: > >> Linda >> >> I would have guessed that :) >> >> Any explanation as to Blan/Bland ? >> >> >> Michael >> www.mullfamilies.co.uk >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <twbennion@nc.rr.com> >> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean=McEachern >> >> >>> Hi Michael, >>> The family is listed on Mull Genealogy. >>> Linda Bennion >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: MF >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:43 AM >>> To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean=McEachern >>> >>> A marriage that may have been mentioned here sometime in the past >>> >>> 9 Feb 1813 Killfinichen >>> >>> Neil McLean in Ardtun & BLAND McEachern in Bunessan, were married >>> >>> BLAND ?? >>> >>> I've looked up various Gaelic christian names but none come close. Was >>> she >>> named after the colour of her hair (blonde) ? >>> >>> I cannot find any children for this marriage >>> >>> >>> Michael >>> www.mullfamilies.co.uk >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The only explanation I can offer is the Gaelic Saint Blaan. It is certainly very unusual. James Sent from my iPad On 28 Aug 2013, at 17:47, "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> wrote: > Linda > > I would have guessed that :) > > Any explanation as to Blan/Bland ? > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <twbennion@nc.rr.com> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:41 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean=McEachern > > >> Hi Michael, >> The family is listed on Mull Genealogy. >> Linda Bennion >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MF >> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:43 AM >> To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean=McEachern >> >> A marriage that may have been mentioned here sometime in the past >> >> 9 Feb 1813 Killfinichen >> >> Neil McLean in Ardtun & BLAND McEachern in Bunessan, were married >> >> BLAND ?? >> >> I've looked up various Gaelic christian names but none come close. Was she >> named after the colour of her hair (blonde) ? >> >> I cannot find any children for this marriage >> >> >> Michael >> www.mullfamilies.co.uk >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Linda I would have guessed that :) Any explanation as to Blan/Bland ? Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <twbennion@nc.rr.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean=McEachern > Hi Michael, > The family is listed on Mull Genealogy. > Linda Bennion > > -----Original Message----- > From: MF > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:43 AM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean=McEachern > > A marriage that may have been mentioned here sometime in the past > > 9 Feb 1813 Killfinichen > > Neil McLean in Ardtun & BLAND McEachern in Bunessan, were married > > BLAND ?? > > I've looked up various Gaelic christian names but none come close. Was she > named after the colour of her hair (blonde) ? > > I cannot find any children for this marriage > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Kym Where please for the 1827 marriage of Neil Campbell/Margaret Beaton ? Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kym Lawrence" <kymlawrence@rogers.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question >I have a Mary Margaret Beaton m. Neil Campbell in 1827. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MF > Sent: July-31-13 5:09 AM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question > > > Neil Campbell/Marion also had a daughter Christina > > 25 Apr 1845 Barony, Glasgow, and Marion/Sarah 1841 from Census > > The 1841 below gives Mary as opposed to Margaret for 1836 birth/bap. These > two names are constantly mixed up in transcription > > 1841 Census > Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 19 > Civil > Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Martyrs > Folio: 232 Page: 11 > Address: Parson Street > CAMPBELL Neil M 25 Agricultural Labourer Outside Census County > (1841) > CAMPBELL Sarah F 30 Outside Census County (1841) > CAMPBELL Mary F 5 Lanarkshire > CAMPBELL Sarah F 2m Lanarkshire > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question > > >> So is Mary a brother to Duncan ? >> >> *Niel CAMPBELL* Birth : Estimated 1794 Baptised : Died : >> Buried : Father >> : Mother : Marriage 1 : Marion >> BEATON<http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=24519> >> Children Mary <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=24520>(bir) >> About 1833 - 30 December 1866 >> >> >> >> Ian >> >> >> On 30 July 2013 20:37, Linda M. Towne <manateemum@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I was looking at the following census transription from Ian's site and >>> am wondering if anyone has identified Duncan Campbell (born c. 1843) or >>> Malcolm MacGilvray (born c. 1837). I believe Margaret Campbell is a >>> grand-daugter of Mary (McKinnon) Beaton - born 3 Jan 1836 Barony to Neil >>> Campbell/Marion Beaton. >>> >>> It's possible Duncan is Margaret's brother but that's pure conjecture. >>> >>> 1851 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : Page No : 118 House >>> No : 4 Locality : Kinloch Sgridain 185120640 >>> Beaton Mary 75 W cottar Kilfinichen >>> Beaton Murdoch 36 Us agr labr Kilfinichen >>> Campbell Margaret 15 v Glasgow >>> Campbell Duncan 8 V Glasgow >>> MacGilvray Malcolm 14 v Glasgow >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Linda >>> www.ancestralplaces.co.uk >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Two minutes after sending, I find them in the 1841 Census at Ardalanish Next door is John McEachern, possible brother of Blan/Bland Another Neil (m. Flora McFarlane is at Ardalanish for the 1851) 1841 Census Piece: SCT1841/542 Place: Kilfinichn-Kilvickon-Argyllshire Enumeration District: 1 Civil Parish: Kilfinchen,Kilvick'n Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 1 Page: 4 Address: Ardelanish MCLEAN Niel M 45 Weaver Argyllshire MCLEAN Blan F 45 Argyllshire ***** nee McEachern MCLEAN Margaret F 15 Argyllshire MCLEAN Lachlan M 14 Argyllshire MCLEAN Duncan M 12 Argyllshire MCLEAN Mary F 10 Argyllshire MCLEAN Catherine F 7 Argyllshire 1841 Census Piece: SCT1841/542 Place: Kilfinichn-Kilvickon-Argyllshire Enumeration District: 1 Civil Parish: Kilfinchen,Kilvick'n Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 1 Page: 5 Address: Ardelanish MCEACHERN John M 50 Cotter Argyllshire MCEACHERN Mary F 5 Argyllshire MCEACHERN Euphemia F 3 Argyllshire Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 3:43 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean=McEachern >A marriage that may have been mentioned here sometime in the past > > 9 Feb 1813 Killfinichen > > Neil McLean in Ardtun & BLAND McEachern in Bunessan, were married > > BLAND ?? > > I've looked up various Gaelic christian names but none come close. Was she > named after the colour of her hair (blonde) ? > > I cannot find any children for this marriage > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Complete transcripts of Coll censuses from the earliest known 'census', the 1776 "Inhabitants of the Island of Coll" conducted by the local church minister, and national censuses from 1841 to 1911, are now available on the Isle of Coll Genealogy website at www.collgenealogy.com. I am indebted to Flora Macdonald, Linda Temple, Ian Scott & Ann Hentschel who initiated this long running project and contributed so much to it. The census data record the population increase in Coll to its peak around 1841 and its subsequent decline as islanders left to seek work on the mainland or were assisted to emigrate to British colonies overseas. In the 20 years from 1841 to 1861 Coll lost about half its people, and the loss continued thereafter The 1891 census recorded the languages spoken by each person: Gaelic only (24%), Gaelic & English (51%). Gaelic was the 'home' language and children learnt English after they went to school. Most 'incomers' from the mainland spoke English only. The 2011 census, as well as the usual information about name, age, birthplace, marital status, occupation & language, also recorded information about married women: years married, the number of children born live, and the number of children still living. ___________________________________________ Keith Dash Sydney, Australia Isle of Tiree Genealogy: www.tireegenealogy.com Isle of Coll Genealogy: www.collgenealogy.com
A marriage that may have been mentioned here sometime in the past 9 Feb 1813 Killfinichen Neil McLean in Ardtun & BLAND McEachern in Bunessan, were married BLAND ?? I've looked up various Gaelic christian names but none come close. Was she named after the colour of her hair (blonde) ? I cannot find any children for this marriage Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk
Her parents Malcolm Beaton & Flora McCormick m. Kilfinichen & she was born there also. -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MF Sent: August-28-13 12:26 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question Kym Where please for the 1827 marriage of Neil Campbell/Margaret Beaton ? Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kym Lawrence" <kymlawrence@rogers.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question >I have a Mary Margaret Beaton m. Neil Campbell in 1827. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MF > Sent: July-31-13 5:09 AM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question > > > Neil Campbell/Marion also had a daughter Christina > > 25 Apr 1845 Barony, Glasgow, and Marion/Sarah 1841 from Census > > The 1841 below gives Mary as opposed to Margaret for 1836 birth/bap. These > two names are constantly mixed up in transcription > > 1841 Census > Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 19 > Civil > Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Martyrs > Folio: 232 Page: 11 > Address: Parson Street > CAMPBELL Neil M 25 Agricultural Labourer Outside Census County > (1841) > CAMPBELL Sarah F 30 Outside Census County (1841) > CAMPBELL Mary F 5 Lanarkshire > CAMPBELL Sarah F 2m Lanarkshire > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question > > >> So is Mary a brother to Duncan ? >> >> *Niel CAMPBELL* Birth : Estimated 1794 Baptised : Died : >> Buried : Father >> : Mother : Marriage 1 : Marion >> BEATON<http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=24519> >> Children Mary <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=24520>(bir) >> About 1833 - 30 December 1866 >> >> >> >> Ian >> >> >> On 30 July 2013 20:37, Linda M. Towne <manateemum@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I was looking at the following census transription from Ian's site and >>> am wondering if anyone has identified Duncan Campbell (born c. 1843) or >>> Malcolm MacGilvray (born c. 1837). I believe Margaret Campbell is a >>> grand-daugter of Mary (McKinnon) Beaton - born 3 Jan 1836 Barony to Neil >>> Campbell/Marion Beaton. >>> >>> It's possible Duncan is Margaret's brother but that's pure conjecture. >>> >>> 1851 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : Page No : 118 House >>> No : 4 Locality : Kinloch Sgridain 185120640 >>> Beaton Mary 75 W cottar Kilfinichen >>> Beaton Murdoch 36 Us agr labr Kilfinichen >>> Campbell Margaret 15 v Glasgow >>> Campbell Duncan 8 V Glasgow >>> MacGilvray Malcolm 14 v Glasgow >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Linda >>> www.ancestralplaces.co.uk >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have a Mary Margaret Beaton m. Neil Campbell in 1827. -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MF Sent: July-31-13 5:09 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question Neil Campbell/Marion also had a daughter Christina 25 Apr 1845 Barony, Glasgow, and Marion/Sarah 1841 from Census The 1841 below gives Mary as opposed to Margaret for 1836 birth/bap. These two names are constantly mixed up in transcription 1841 Census Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 19 Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Martyrs Folio: 232 Page: 11 Address: Parson Street CAMPBELL Neil M 25 Agricultural Labourer Outside Census County (1841) CAMPBELL Sarah F 30 Outside Census County (1841) CAMPBELL Mary F 5 Lanarkshire CAMPBELL Sarah F 2m Lanarkshire Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell and MacGilvray question > So is Mary a brother to Duncan ? > > *Niel CAMPBELL* Birth : Estimated 1794 Baptised : Died : > Buried : Father > : Mother : Marriage 1 : Marion > BEATON<http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=24519> > Children Mary <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=24520>(bir) > About 1833 - 30 December 1866 > > > > Ian > > > On 30 July 2013 20:37, Linda M. Towne <manateemum@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I was looking at the following census transription from Ian's site and >> am wondering if anyone has identified Duncan Campbell (born c. 1843) or >> Malcolm MacGilvray (born c. 1837). I believe Margaret Campbell is a >> grand-daugter of Mary (McKinnon) Beaton - born 3 Jan 1836 Barony to Neil >> Campbell/Marion Beaton. >> >> It's possible Duncan is Margaret's brother but that's pure conjecture. >> >> 1851 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : Page No : 118 House >> No : 4 Locality : Kinloch Sgridain 185120640 >> Beaton Mary 75 W cottar Kilfinichen >> Beaton Murdoch 36 Us agr labr Kilfinichen >> Campbell Margaret 15 v Glasgow >> Campbell Duncan 8 V Glasgow >> MacGilvray Malcolm 14 v Glasgow >> >> Thanks! >> >> Linda >> www.ancestralplaces.co.uk >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Michael, The family is listed on Mull Genealogy. Linda Bennion -----Original Message----- From: MF Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:43 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean=McEachern A marriage that may have been mentioned here sometime in the past 9 Feb 1813 Killfinichen Neil McLean in Ardtun & BLAND McEachern in Bunessan, were married BLAND ?? I've looked up various Gaelic christian names but none come close. Was she named after the colour of her hair (blonde) ? I cannot find any children for this marriage Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Ida and Michael, Now that I am on a roll, here is the third pioneer McDougall family from Mull to Mariposa. From the OPR: John McLucais m Jane Thoburn 31.1.1815 at Carsaig. Marjory McLucais c 31.12.1815 Catharine McLucais c 10.12.1816 Pennyghael John McDougall c 12.5.1821 Pennyghael I don't have it written, but if my memory servies me right, they were later to Mariposa, in the 1840's. Murdock says in the 1901 census he (and his parents, etc) emigrated in 1834. Re my Neil and Sarah. One bonus is that the 1841 tax assessments have survived for Mariposa. In it are both fathers - Neil and Donald. Neil says besides Sarah and himself there are: 2 males under 16 3 males 16 and over 2 females under 16 1 female 16 and over for a total of eight children - although the older occupants could be parents of Neil or Sarah. This is why I still feel there are kids missing for both families - eg. possibly an Alexander and a Catherine. All the best. Elizabeth. > From: moshi94@hotmail.com > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:37:39 +0000 > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] The Elusive McDougalls of Mariposa - and Who is Catherine McDougall Beechroft > > Dear Ida and Michael, > Forgot to include in the info below that also not in the OPR is Donald as son of Neil and Sarah, b. 4.5.1824/6, and Allan b. 4.8.1819 as a son. (but they could be Donald's sons, not Neil's). They are definitely my relations but whether siblings of my ggrandmother Christine, or first cousins, I do not know. > > And another reason for the elusiveness is that of all the historic atlases produced of the Ontario counties in the 1870's and 1880's none was done of - Victoria County. A facsimile was done of 1900-1901 but it hardly rates for research in the 1820's-30's there is so little in it. > > In answer to your question Michael, I suspect that Donald and Neil, probably born circa 1780's, are brothers, with John McLucais in the 1779 census as their father, but have no proof to date. > > I think the Catherine Beechroft could be a daughter of Neil or Donald. The only Catherine I have found to date is one in McNeil Cemetery, wife of a G.W. Angus, b 22.5.1827 d 8.5.1905, says the tombstone. > > All the best. > Elizabeth. > > > From: moshi94@hotmail.com > > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 17:45:44 +0000 > > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] The Elusive McDougalls of Mariposa - and Who is Catherine McDougall Beechroft > > > > Dear Ida and Michael, > > Yes, the family Michael found by another link is mine. I haven't offered it because I don't know if parts of it are correct/not in error. > > > > There are three big problems with the McDougalls of Mariposa. > > > > 1. There is a nine-year gap in the OPR re kids in Torranachtrach and Killunaig - 1818-1827. Whether the two pioneer couples got non-religious or there was no minister or the minister got lazy posting, who knows. > > > > 2. The 1851/2 census for Mariposa is lost. The '51 is so important in Ontario because it gives the pioneer kids. By 1861 most have left home - the girls to married names. > > > > 3. The McDougalls used the alias of McLucas and McLucais and others I probably haven't found until circa 1825. I don't know enough about the clan history but I assume it came out of the '45 rebellion. > > > > Here is what I have from the OPR: > > > > Neil McLucais/McDougall of Killunaig m. Sarah/Marion Campbell of Torrenichruich 25.2.1815 - my 2ggrandparents > > Mary McLucas c 2.1.1816 Killunaig > > John McLucas c 13.4.1817 Killunaig > > Murdock McLucais c 7.7.1827 Killunaig > > Marion McDougall c 8.1.1830 Killunaig > > > > Donald McLucais of Torranauchtrach m Julia Paterson of Torrranuachdrach 27.2.1816 > > Neil McLucais c 5.2.1817 > > Duncan McLucais c 3.11.1828 > > Hector McDougall c 10.8.1830 > > > > But I also have the following based on 2-4 cross-references all with question marks (save my ggrandmother and her sister) > > > > Christina and Isabella said to be twins b. 10.1835 no day - 1901 census to the first couple > > > > John 1821 > > Janet 1824 - has a daughter Julia > > Flora 1826 - with mother in 1871 census > > Ann - b. 1.9.1826 c 16.6 1827 tombstone Wick Cemetery, buried with her father. > > > > So, as I say, Catherine could be in either of these two families to Mariposa. The next steps would be to check her marriage in 1842 on microfilm to see if the father is named as often was in the 1840's and to find the death certificate on microfilm under Beechcroft. > > > > Other kids still to find? > > > > All the best. > > Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
p.s. Parents : Donald Fletcher/Marion McPhail : Laggan MARY (not John) www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 4:06 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Fletcher > OPR "John" Fletcher 20 Oct 1803 Torosay > > For John read MARY !! > > My reply from GROS Edinburgh (after I queried the entry) > > < It is 99% def Mary 100% not John! > > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
OPR "John" Fletcher 20 Oct 1803 Torosay For John read MARY !! My reply from GROS Edinburgh (after I queried the entry) < It is 99% def Mary 100% not John! > Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk
Dear Ida and Michael, Forgot to include in the info below that also not in the OPR is Donald as son of Neil and Sarah, b. 4.5.1824/6, and Allan b. 4.8.1819 as a son. (but they could be Donald's sons, not Neil's). They are definitely my relations but whether siblings of my ggrandmother Christine, or first cousins, I do not know. And another reason for the elusiveness is that of all the historic atlases produced of the Ontario counties in the 1870's and 1880's none was done of - Victoria County. A facsimile was done of 1900-1901 but it hardly rates for research in the 1820's-30's there is so little in it. In answer to your question Michael, I suspect that Donald and Neil, probably born circa 1780's, are brothers, with John McLucais in the 1779 census as their father, but have no proof to date. I think the Catherine Beechroft could be a daughter of Neil or Donald. The only Catherine I have found to date is one in McNeil Cemetery, wife of a G.W. Angus, b 22.5.1827 d 8.5.1905, says the tombstone. All the best. Elizabeth. > From: moshi94@hotmail.com > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 17:45:44 +0000 > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] The Elusive McDougalls of Mariposa - and Who is Catherine McDougall Beechroft > > Dear Ida and Michael, > Yes, the family Michael found by another link is mine. I haven't offered it because I don't know if parts of it are correct/not in error. > > There are three big problems with the McDougalls of Mariposa. > > 1. There is a nine-year gap in the OPR re kids in Torranachtrach and Killunaig - 1818-1827. Whether the two pioneer couples got non-religious or there was no minister or the minister got lazy posting, who knows. > > 2. The 1851/2 census for Mariposa is lost. The '51 is so important in Ontario because it gives the pioneer kids. By 1861 most have left home - the girls to married names. > > 3. The McDougalls used the alias of McLucas and McLucais and others I probably haven't found until circa 1825. I don't know enough about the clan history but I assume it came out of the '45 rebellion. > > Here is what I have from the OPR: > > Neil McLucais/McDougall of Killunaig m. Sarah/Marion Campbell of Torrenichruich 25.2.1815 - my 2ggrandparents > Mary McLucas c 2.1.1816 Killunaig > John McLucas c 13.4.1817 Killunaig > Murdock McLucais c 7.7.1827 Killunaig > Marion McDougall c 8.1.1830 Killunaig > > Donald McLucais of Torranauchtrach m Julia Paterson of Torrranuachdrach 27.2.1816 > Neil McLucais c 5.2.1817 > Duncan McLucais c 3.11.1828 > Hector McDougall c 10.8.1830 > > But I also have the following based on 2-4 cross-references all with question marks (save my ggrandmother and her sister) > > Christina and Isabella said to be twins b. 10.1835 no day - 1901 census to the first couple > > John 1821 > Janet 1824 - has a daughter Julia > Flora 1826 - with mother in 1871 census > Ann - b. 1.9.1826 c 16.6 1827 tombstone Wick Cemetery, buried with her father. > > So, as I say, Catherine could be in either of these two families to Mariposa. The next steps would be to check her marriage in 1842 on microfilm to see if the father is named as often was in the 1840's and to find the death certificate on microfilm under Beechcroft. > > Other kids still to find? > > All the best. > Elizabeth. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you for following up with GROS - it certainly makes a difference whether it was John or Mary :) Linda (MacCormick) Towne www.ancestralplaces.co.uk On 8/27/2013 11:06 AM, MF wrote: > OPR "John" Fletcher 20 Oct 1803 Torosay > > For John read MARY !! > > My reply from GROS Edinburgh (after I queried the entry) > > < It is 99% def Mary 100% not John! > > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk >
Hope someone can help me please I cannot find his birth. I have an Archibald Cameron b in Mull circa 1805 - 09 who marries in Kilchoman, Islay. Ann McEachern b Islay His Census data when living in Islay for 1851 1861 1871 says he was born MULL. His Death 1879 in Kilchoman, Islay aged gives his parents as JOHN CAMERON and ANN MCARTHUR. Informant is a cousin Dugald MacFarlane. So far only marriage I can find is in Edinburgh in 1808 for JOHN CAMERON and ANN MCARTHUR. John being a solder in 91 reg. His spouse was Ann McEachern Birth abt 1816 in Kilchoman Islay, Argyll, Scotland Death 12 Apr 1903 in Kilchoman, Argyll, Scotland Parents Donald McEachern Catherine MacLellan. Tricia
Dear Ida and Michael, Yes, the family Michael found by another link is mine. I haven't offered it because I don't know if parts of it are correct/not in error. There are three big problems with the McDougalls of Mariposa. 1. There is a nine-year gap in the OPR re kids in Torranachtrach and Killunaig - 1818-1827. Whether the two pioneer couples got non-religious or there was no minister or the minister got lazy posting, who knows. 2. The 1851/2 census for Mariposa is lost. The '51 is so important in Ontario because it gives the pioneer kids. By 1861 most have left home - the girls to married names. 3. The McDougalls used the alias of McLucas and McLucais and others I probably haven't found until circa 1825. I don't know enough about the clan history but I assume it came out of the '45 rebellion. Here is what I have from the OPR: Neil McLucais/McDougall of Killunaig m. Sarah/Marion Campbell of Torrenichruich 25.2.1815 - my 2ggrandparents Mary McLucas c 2.1.1816 Killunaig John McLucas c 13.4.1817 Killunaig Murdock McLucais c 7.7.1827 Killunaig Marion McDougall c 8.1.1830 Killunaig Donald McLucais of Torranauchtrach m Julia Paterson of Torrranuachdrach 27.2.1816 Neil McLucais c 5.2.1817 Duncan McLucais c 3.11.1828 Hector McDougall c 10.8.1830 But I also have the following based on 2-4 cross-references all with question marks (save my ggrandmother and her sister) Christina and Isabella said to be twins b. 10.1835 no day - 1901 census to the first couple John 1821 Janet 1824 - has a daughter Julia Flora 1826 - with mother in 1871 census Ann - b. 1.9.1826 c 16.6 1827 tombstone Wick Cemetery, buried with her father. So, as I say, Catherine could be in either of these two families to Mariposa. The next steps would be to check her marriage in 1842 on microfilm to see if the father is named as often was in the 1840's and to find the death certificate on microfilm under Beechcroft. Other kids still to find? All the best. Elizabeth.
Hi Update on my Alexander Campbell he was born 1811 d,1880 Glasgow, parents Charles Campbell & Catherine Livingston. Charles parents Alexander b,1747 mother Catherine McKinnon. Alexander married Ann McMillan 1841 Mull, children Margaret b,Mull 1842, married Alexander Cameron Belfast, 1865 . Lachlan b,abt 1848 Glasgow, Catherine b, 1852 d,1908 Glasgow,married James Moore. John b,abt 1854 Glasgow, Agnes b,1857 d 1905 Glasgow, married David Geddes, Mary b,1863 d,1900 hope this clears up my last Query
I set out below entries from Certificates I purchased, all Mull, Argyllshire, in the search for the death of Margaret CAMPBELL, b abt 1851, daughter of David CAMPBELL and Elizabeth Livingston McINNES born Banff, whose siblings I traced through the census years to their deaths. I traced Margaret Campbell until 1891 at Aros and the trail ended; she may have gone to the mainland or beyond but I didnt find her death record from searches in Scotland's People. As a matter of interest, according to land law in England and Wales the term "Esq" after a name usually means a person of some standing, if not Landed and I wonder if it applies in Scotland; might be useful to know. I have posted similar entries like these before. I'm not sure if other Listers use Archives in Lists where they are subscribed. I do think its worth searching in case the names you need have been included in posts before. Entries from 3 Certificates purchased against the name Margaret CAMPBELL as follows: 1857 CAMPBELL Margaret widow of Murdoch CAMPBELL Esq of Coll ( maiden surname SINCLAIR Aged 80 yrs Parents: Duncan SINCLAIR Farmer & Catherine maiden name ILLERIACH Died: 17 Aug 1857 at Mrs James GRAHAM's house. Tobermory WYND Agnes (Single) Died: 17 August 1857 Tobermory Aged 2 yrs Parents: Thomas WYND General Dealer in Goods, Tobermory & Ann maiden surname MILLER McDOUGALL John Road Repairer (Widower) Aged 66 yrs Died: 3 September 1857 Erray, Tobermory Parents: Donald MacLUCASH or MacDOUGALL Tenant Caillach and Flora maiden surname McGILIVRAY 1867 CAMPBELL Margaret Died 2 October 1867 Aged 88 Parents: John CAMPBELL Esq., of Misnish Dec'd and Isabella CAMPBELL Dec'd McPHERSON Janet (Married) Died 1 Oct 1867 Aged 69 yrs. Parents: Donald LIVINGSTON, Farmer & Catherine maiden surname McINNES McLAINE Agnes (Single) 4 Oct 1867 Tobermory, Aged 14 days Parents: Donald McLAINE Butcher & Catherine maiden surname McKINNON 1927 CAMPBELL Margaret (Single) Aged 82 yrs Died 15 Mar 1927 Old Killiechranars (sp), Parish of Kilninian & Kilmore Parents Alexander CAMPBELL and Annie maiden surname CAMPBELL. FLETCHER Margaret Stewart, Merchant, (Single) Aged 74 yrs Died 5 February 1927, Salen, Kilninian and Kilmore Parents: Neil FLETCHER (Contractor) and Jane maiden surname CORBETT MACDONALD Archibald (Retired Shepherd) (Single) Aged 79 Yrs. Died 10 January 1927, Corry, Parish of Pennygown & Torosay Parents: Neil MACDONALD (Crofter) and Jane maiden surname MacLEAN I have no other information on the foregoing entries. If by chance any of the above are wanted this information will save abortive searches. Janet