âHi John, I'm not sure if this will help, but I've just been through this myself. My family was McInnes, they lived in 'Iona Parish' in 1841 before coming to Lochaber, Quebec. Turns out that area took in the Ross of Mull area -most of the people who came to Quebec were actually residents on Mull itself, not so much the island. Elaine From: John Cameron Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:13 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Reply To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray's of Iona Does anyone on the list have any idea of the names of parents and/or siblings of my ggg grandmother Marrion McGilvray? She was born c 1788, I believe on Iona. Her marriage to Angus Cameron on March 25, 1811 is shown in the Kilfinichen Parish records, which lists them both as residents of Iona. The birth/baptism of their first four children, including my gg grandfather John Cameron, are also in the OPR. Then in about 1820 they left for Quebec, Canada, where the next four children were born. John Cameron Spooner, Wisconsin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this the Mary Macdonald to whom we owe the tune "Bunessan" in our hymn books? jean whimp -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy and John Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 7:41 AM Cc: mull list Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Kintra Hi June, I can't begin to tell you how thrilled I am with the photos that you have sent me. I have never seen them before and they are just what I was after. Thank you so much! They are wonderful!! I think you have told me before about Mary McDonald. It is a pity it is so hard to go back any further. I would really love to know about Dugald's parents but don't know where to turn for that. I am not sure how the book will go. I am only up to the first chapter so there is a long way to go. I am very excited about it though and really want to tell Mary's story. Thank you for the good wishes and the fantastic photos! Many, many thanks and kind regards Joy On 21/09/2013 1:11 AM, June Ridgeway wrote: > Hi Joy, > > Hope these photos help - I believe they were taken around the early > 1900s. As you probably know, my family )McDonald) are also from Kintra > - although they moved there from Ardchievaig in 1850. > > Mary's parents were married on 24/03/1835 in Creich. Her mother, Mary > McDonald, is shown on the certiicate as comin from Tiree although > that's about all I know of the family. > > Hope your book goes well - I'd love to do that but haven't got the > patience I'm afraid. > > Best regards > > June > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi again Ian, Whoops!! Forgot to say I am in the Yarra Valley in Victoria, Australia and my name is Joy DeLuca. The family I am researching is as you have below. Kind regards, Joy On 21/09/2013 12:34 AM, Ian Phillips wrote: > Hi Joy, > > I think this the family as displayed on mullgenealogy.co.uk > > *Dugald MCINNES* Birth : About 1816 Baptised : Died : 4 April 1896, > Beechworth, Victoria, Australia Buried : Father : Mother : Marriage > 1 : Mary MCDONALD <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32670> 24 March > 1835 Children Mary <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32671>(bir) > 16 October 1835 - 9 August 1877 > Christina<http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32672>(bir) > 22 October 1836 - Alexander > <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32673>(bir) > 12 October 1838 - Duncan <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32674>(bir) > 5 November 1840 - John <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32675>(bir) > 19 June 1843 - Janet <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32676>(bir) > 8 July 1847 - > > > With regard to old photographs I would suggest that you contact the Ross of > Mull Historic Centre in Busessan (romhc.org.uk) Millbrae Cottage, Bunessan, > Isle of Mull PA67 6DG > Phone:01681 700659 > Best regards and good hunting, > > Ian > webmaster mullgenealogy.co.uk > > > > On 20 September 2013 12:18, Joy and John <john.joy6@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> When doing family research one family member often attracts our >> attention more than the others. For me it has been my GG Grandmother, >> Mary McInnes. >> Mary was born in Kintra in 1835. >> Her family is listed on the 1841 Census as follows: >> >> Dugald MacInnes, age 30, Boatman, born in Parish >> Mary, age 30, born in Parish >> Christina, age 9, born in Parish >> Mary, age 6, born in parish >> Sandy [Alexander], age 2, born in Parish >> Duncan, age 7 months, born in Parish >> >> They came to Australia in January 1849 aboard the Maitland. >> I have a lot of information about this family and their descendents in >> Australia and I really want to share it with my descendents. >> I don't want these stories and my research to disappear so I have >> decided to try to write a book so that my family will have a record of >> it all. >> >> I do not have a lot of information about her life and family in Mull and >> would really appreciate any information that anyone is willing to share >> with me. >> I am happy to acknowledge anyone's contribution. >> >> I also would love some photos of Kintra and Iona, particularly old >> ones, that I could use. Again I am happy to make note of who the >> photos belong to. >> >> I am not anticipating that this book will be published in large >> quantities but you never know. >> I am really writing it for my family. >> >> If anyone can help me in any way I would be most grateful. >> Thank you very much. >> Kind regards to all. >> Joy >> in Australia. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ian, Thank you very much for your help. I think I gave you the information listed below. Could you please add my name to your subscribers list as researching this family? June has sent me some wonderful photos which were just what I was after. Just looking at them I can picture the family living there! It must have been so cold in the wintertime. I have been reading on travel sites that it is very windy at Kintra. Is that correct? How cold does it get in the wintertime and how warm in the summer? I would love to visit but I don't think that is going to be possible. Maybe one day! Thank you so much for all the work you do Ian with the site. I am generally quiet as far as the list goes but I do appreciate reading the postings and checking out the site. Your kindness in sharing information and helping people with their research is wonderful. Kind regards Joy On 21/09/2013 12:34 AM, Ian Phillips wrote: > Hi Joy, > > I think this the family as displayed on mullgenealogy.co.uk > > *Dugald MCINNES* Birth : About 1816 Baptised : Died : 4 April 1896, > Beechworth, Victoria, Australia Buried : Father : Mother : Marriage > 1 : Mary MCDONALD <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32670> 24 March > 1835 Children Mary <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32671>(bir) > 16 October 1835 - 9 August 1877 > Christina<http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32672>(bir) > 22 October 1836 - Alexander > <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32673>(bir) > 12 October 1838 - Duncan <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32674>(bir) > 5 November 1840 - John <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32675>(bir) > 19 June 1843 - Janet <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32676>(bir) > 8 July 1847 - > > > With regard to old photographs I would suggest that you contact the Ross of > Mull Historic Centre in Busessan (romhc.org.uk) Millbrae Cottage, Bunessan, > Isle of Mull PA67 6DG > Phone:01681 700659 > Best regards and good hunting, > > Ian > webmaster mullgenealogy.co.uk > > > > On 20 September 2013 12:18, Joy and John <john.joy6@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> When doing family research one family member often attracts our >> attention more than the others. For me it has been my GG Grandmother, >> Mary McInnes. >> Mary was born in Kintra in 1835. >> Her family is listed on the 1841 Census as follows: >> >> Dugald MacInnes, age 30, Boatman, born in Parish >> Mary, age 30, born in Parish >> Christina, age 9, born in Parish >> Mary, age 6, born in parish >> Sandy [Alexander], age 2, born in Parish >> Duncan, age 7 months, born in Parish >> >> They came to Australia in January 1849 aboard the Maitland. >> I have a lot of information about this family and their descendents in >> Australia and I really want to share it with my descendents. >> I don't want these stories and my research to disappear so I have >> decided to try to write a book so that my family will have a record of >> it all. >> >> I do not have a lot of information about her life and family in Mull and >> would really appreciate any information that anyone is willing to share >> with me. >> I am happy to acknowledge anyone's contribution. >> >> I also would love some photos of Kintra and Iona, particularly old >> ones, that I could use. Again I am happy to make note of who the >> photos belong to. >> >> I am not anticipating that this book will be published in large >> quantities but you never know. >> I am really writing it for my family. >> >> If anyone can help me in any way I would be most grateful. >> Thank you very much. >> Kind regards to all. >> Joy >> in Australia. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Michael, Thank you for your reply. I will certainly look at your site. The photos sound great. I wasn't sure how the copyright system worked and definitely don't want to do the wrong thing. Kind regards Joy On 21/09/2013 2:06 AM, MF wrote: > Joy > Can let you have a couple of old Iona pics, *but would not want book > credit.* They are old postcard pics and should not have any copyright > issues > Also on my website are two pics of Kintra, one of which is of old > settlement remains (modern pics), but these were submitted by website > members > You are probably aware that Kintra at one time was part of Iona > parish, but is not on Iona itself > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk <http://www.mullfamilies.co.uk>

Does anyone on the list have any idea of the names of parents and/or siblings of my ggg grandmother Marrion McGilvray? She was born c 1788, I believe on Iona. Her marriage to Angus Cameron on March 25, 1811 is shown in the Kilfinichen Parish records, which lists them both as residents of Iona. The birth/baptism of their first four children, including my gg grandfather John Cameron, are also in the OPR. Then in about 1820 they left for Quebec, Canada, where the next four children were born. John Cameron Spooner, Wisconsin

Hi June, I can't begin to tell you how thrilled I am with the photos that you have sent me. I have never seen them before and they are just what I was after. Thank you so much! They are wonderful!! I think you have told me before about Mary McDonald. It is a pity it is so hard to go back any further. I would really love to know about Dugald's parents but don't know where to turn for that. I am not sure how the book will go. I am only up to the first chapter so there is a long way to go. I am very excited about it though and really want to tell Mary's story. Thank you for the good wishes and the fantastic photos! Many, many thanks and kind regards Joy On 21/09/2013 1:11 AM, June Ridgeway wrote: > Hi Joy, > > Hope these photos help - I believe they were taken around the early > 1900s. As you probably know, my family )McDonald) are also from Kintra > - although they moved there from Ardchievaig in 1850. > > Mary's parents were married on 24/03/1835 in Creich. Her mother, Mary > McDonald, is shown on the certiicate as comin from Tiree although > that's about all I know of the family. > > Hope your book goes well - I'd love to do that but haven't got the > patience I'm afraid. > > Best regards > > June >

Jan I'm more than a little bit more than bewildered why you're having a moan at me !! Mullgenealogy is Ian's website and he's the person that should be contacted should a question arise. I've spoken to Ian off list, and he's happy to be notified of any errors/duplication. As far as I'm aware, I'm not related to any of these families, but what's the harm in pointing out inacurracies ? I make mistakes, we all do : but I'm happy to have any pointed out so they can be corrected. As I tend to MullFamilies many hours/day, I don't have time to check who's submitted the info, nor to contact them. For privacy issues, I don't post email addresses on site. Contacting you directly would be an invasion of your privacy. Also, once information is on a website, it's there to be seen by anyone who visits that site (whether their family or not). : it's in the public domain. You're horrified that I spend 12 hours/day researching and updating my website ??!! Surely you should be applauding me for the dedication, being a pro-active webmaster, breaking down brick walls and generally keeping 200 website members quite happy, thank you. Anyone else want to have a go ? Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Peasnell" <2012janmp@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > Hello All, > > I am a little bit bewildered to say the least as to why you have not > contacted me about this entry of Mull Genealogy Michael as it is so very > obviously MY mistake and certainly not Ians. My contact address is up to > date and I am recorded as the source of the information. > > I, like Jean had written down a lot of this from the original documents on > Mull as far back as 1981 and some of the pages were very hard to read - > not > quite like today's hit a button and then complain if it isn't perfect! As > I wrote down hundreds of entries over the week that I spent at both the > Tobermory Museum and the old Ross of Mull FH site, I don't doubt that > there > are a lot more mistakes out there. > > I am not quite sure which one of these families you are related to, but if > anyone had contacted me I would have looked to see why I had made the > mistake and then asked Ian to change it. I would appreciate it in future > that you do that instead of constantly putting up changes for Ian when > those changes have to come from the source of the information, and it > would > be better if you contacted those people off line as then the site doesn't > have to get involved with something that isn't productive. > > The greater majority of information that Ian has on his site from me has > never been on the Rootsweb site. I gave it to him so as others researching > their OWN family trees could have that information or could contact me in > regard to other contacts I may have. I certainly didn't expect it to be > used in any other way. > > Oh, and by the way, if I thought Ian was sitting at his computer 12 hours > a > day 7 days a week I would be horrified as would we all. Ian has a life > and > although a lot of his time has been dedicated to the Mull Genealogy site > over many years, His move to Mull was long anticipated and one hopes he > is > out there enjoying every minute of it - weather permitting. > > Jan Peasnell > >

Ian 1841 Census gives Dugald aged 30 I have bap 22 Jan 1809 Kilfinichen s/o Duncan/Margaret Livingston (to be confirmed) No candidate parents for Mary Also, dau Christina aged 9 and born pre-marriage circa 1831/32 (couldn't find the 1836 date) 1841 Census Piece: SCT1841/538 Place: Iona -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Iona Q.S. Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Folio: 13 Page: 6 Address: Kentra MACINNES Dugald M 30 Boatman Argyllshire MACINNES Mary F 30 Argyllshire MACINNES Christina F 9 Argyllshire MACINNES Mary F 6 Argyllshire MACINNES Sandy M 2 Argyllshire MACINNES Duncan M 7m Argyllshire MACGILVRA Dugald M 20 Argyllshire MACGILVRA Donald M 8 Argyllshire MACGILVRA Effy F 6 Argyllshire Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Mary McInnes from Kintra - Writing a book! > Hi Joy, > > I think this the family as displayed on mullgenealogy.co.uk > > *Dugald MCINNES* Birth : About 1816 Baptised : Died : 4 April 1896, > Beechworth, Victoria, Australia Buried : Father : Mother : > Marriage > 1 : Mary MCDONALD <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32670> 24 March > 1835 Children Mary > <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32671>(bir) > 16 October 1835 - 9 August 1877 > Christina<http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32672>(bir) > 22 October 1836 - Alexander > <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32673>(bir) > 12 October 1838 - Duncan > <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32674>(bir) > 5 November 1840 - John > <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32675>(bir) > 19 June 1843 - Janet <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32676>(bir) > 8 July 1847 - > > > With regard to old photographs I would suggest that you contact the Ross > of > Mull Historic Centre in Busessan (romhc.org.uk) Millbrae Cottage, > Bunessan, > Isle of Mull PA67 6DG > Phone:01681 700659 > Best regards and good hunting, > > Ian > webmaster mullgenealogy.co.uk> >

Jean That Mary McDonald was nee McDougall 1789-1872 Ardtun I have a newspaper clipping on site about her and the song Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Whimp" <jiwhimp@optusnet.com.au> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Kintra > Is this the Mary Macdonald to whom we owe the tune "Bunessan" in our hymn > books? > jean whimp > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy and John > Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 7:41 AM > Cc: mull list > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Kintra > > Hi June, > > I can't begin to tell you how thrilled I am with the photos that you have > sent me. > I have never seen them before and they are just what I was after. Thank > you > so much! > They are wonderful!! > > I think you have told me before about Mary McDonald. It is a pity it is > so > hard to go back any further. > I would really love to know about Dugald's parents but don't know where to > turn for that. > > I am not sure how the book will go. I am only up to the first chapter so > there is a long way to go. > I am very excited about it though and really want to tell Mary's story. > Thank you for the good wishes and the fantastic photos! > > Many, many thanks and kind regards > > Joy > > On 21/09/2013 1:11 AM, June Ridgeway wrote: >> Hi Joy, >> >> Hope these photos help - I believe they were taken around the early >> 1900s. As you probably know, my family )McDonald) are also from Kintra >> - although they moved there from Ardchievaig in 1850. >> >> Mary's parents were married on 24/03/1835 in Creich. Her mother, Mary >> McDonald, is shown on the certiicate as comin from Tiree although >> that's about all I know of the family. >> >> Hope your book goes well - I'd love to do that but haven't got the >> patience I'm afraid. >> >> Best regards >> >> June >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, When doing family research one family member often attracts our attention more than the others. For me it has been my GG Grandmother, Mary McInnes. Mary was born in Kintra in 1835. Her family is listed on the 1841 Census as follows: Dugald MacInnes, age 30, Boatman, born in Parish Mary, age 30, born in Parish Christina, age 9, born in Parish Mary, age 6, born in parish Sandy [Alexander], age 2, born in Parish Duncan, age 7 months, born in Parish They came to Australia in January 1849 aboard the Maitland. I have a lot of information about this family and their descendents in Australia and I really want to share it with my descendents. I don't want these stories and my research to disappear so I have decided to try to write a book so that my family will have a record of it all. I do not have a lot of information about her life and family in Mull and would really appreciate any information that anyone is willing to share with me. I am happy to acknowledge anyone's contribution. I also would love some photos of Kintra and Iona, particularly old ones, that I could use. Again I am happy to make note of who the photos belong to. I am not anticipating that this book will be published in large quantities but you never know. I am really writing it for my family. If anyone can help me in any way I would be most grateful. Thank you very much. Kind regards to all. Joy in Australia.

Well done Michael. I knew that I only had to wait and you would sort it. Ian On 20 September 2013 15:55, MF <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> wrote: > Ian/Listers > > I have now managed to sort the two (yes only two) families from the one > group on Mullgenealogy > > The 'Iona' family as follows (7 children) > > John 1821 > Janet 1823 > Neil 1826 > Mary 1830 > Margaret 1833 & 1835 > Marion 1838 > > The 'Kilfinichen to Tobermory' family as follows (8 children) > > Hector 1822 > Neil 1824 > Flora 1827 > Catherine & Hector 1828 twins > Marion 1831 > Angus abt 1833 > Ann abt 1835 > > Both sets of parents Donald McGilvray/Isabella McArthur > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ian/Listers I have now managed to sort the two (yes only two) families from the one group on Mullgenealogy The 'Iona' family as follows (7 children) John 1821 Janet 1823 Neil 1826 Mary 1830 Margaret 1833 & 1835 Marion 1838 The 'Kilfinichen to Tobermory' family as follows (8 children) Hector 1822 Neil 1824 Flora 1827 Catherine & Hector 1828 twins Marion 1831 Angus abt 1833 Ann abt 1835 Both sets of parents Donald McGilvray/Isabella McArthur Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk

Hi Joy, I think this the family as displayed on mullgenealogy.co.uk *Dugald MCINNES* Birth : About 1816 Baptised : Died : 4 April 1896, Beechworth, Victoria, Australia Buried : Father : Mother : Marriage 1 : Mary MCDONALD <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32670> 24 March 1835 Children Mary <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32671>(bir) 16 October 1835 - 9 August 1877 Christina<http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32672>(bir) 22 October 1836 - Alexander <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32673>(bir) 12 October 1838 - Duncan <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32674>(bir) 5 November 1840 - John <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32675>(bir) 19 June 1843 - Janet <http://localhost/MullSearch.ASP?indv_no=32676>(bir) 8 July 1847 - With regard to old photographs I would suggest that you contact the Ross of Mull Historic Centre in Busessan (romhc.org.uk) Millbrae Cottage, Bunessan, Isle of Mull PA67 6DG Phone:01681 700659 Best regards and good hunting, Ian webmaster mullgenealogy.co.uk On 20 September 2013 12:18, Joy and John <john.joy6@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > When doing family research one family member often attracts our > attention more than the others. For me it has been my GG Grandmother, > Mary McInnes. > Mary was born in Kintra in 1835. > Her family is listed on the 1841 Census as follows: > > Dugald MacInnes, age 30, Boatman, born in Parish > Mary, age 30, born in Parish > Christina, age 9, born in Parish > Mary, age 6, born in parish > Sandy [Alexander], age 2, born in Parish > Duncan, age 7 months, born in Parish > > They came to Australia in January 1849 aboard the Maitland. > I have a lot of information about this family and their descendents in > Australia and I really want to share it with my descendents. > I don't want these stories and my research to disappear so I have > decided to try to write a book so that my family will have a record of > it all. > > I do not have a lot of information about her life and family in Mull and > would really appreciate any information that anyone is willing to share > with me. > I am happy to acknowledge anyone's contribution. > > I also would love some photos of Kintra and Iona, particularly old > ones, that I could use. Again I am happy to make note of who the > photos belong to. > > I am not anticipating that this book will be published in large > quantities but you never know. > I am really writing it for my family. > > If anyone can help me in any way I would be most grateful. > Thank you very much. > Kind regards to all. > Joy > in Australia. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Linda M www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda M. Towne" <manateemum@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur >I don't have time to dig through all my notes on these families right > now but .... > > Daughter-in-law Janet is Janet McInnes per Iona OPR. I haven't linked > her to parents yet. > > July 25, 1850 John MacGilvra [illegible] Catchean and Jess MacInnes > Village Iona were married > > > > 1851 Iona Fionnphort > McGilvray Donald 60 Farms 4a Kilfinichen > McGilvray Bell 50 w Kilfinichen > McGilvray John 30 s shoemaker Kilfinichen > McGilvray Janet 31 dil >>>>>> nee ? m. John ? > McGilvray Niel 24 s Ferryman Kilfinichen > McGilvray Marion 13 d Kilfinichen > McDonald John 15 Uv > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Further to this post, I have other thoughts worth sharing The following Census 1841-1861(trimmed from Mullgenealogy) is what I think are the one family . As dau Margaret/Peggy died 1855 Catchean, it looks like the 1841 Tir Fearagain family is the Iona one (Parents Donald & Isabella also dying Catchean) This actually makes more sense, as children Catherine & Angus are not with this family, but are part of the Tobermory lot 1841 Kilfinichen Tirergain McGilvra Donald 40 Agric Labourer Y in Parish McGilvra Isabella 40 Y in Parish McGilvra John 15 Y in Parish McGilvra Niel 14 Y in Parish McGilvra Mary 12 Y in Parish McGilvra Pegy 6 Y in Parish McGilvra Marion 2 Y in Parish McGilvra Jessy 15 Y in Parish 1851 Iona Fionnphort McGilvray Donald 60 Farms 4a Kilfinichen McGilvray Bell 50 w Kilfinichen McGilvray John 30 s shoemaker Kilfinichen McGilvray Janet 31 dil >>>>>> nee ? m. John ? McGilvray Niel 24 s Ferryman Kilfinichen McGilvray Marion 13 d Kilfinichen McDonald John 15 Uv 1861 Iona Ferry House McGilvray Donald 70 Head Ferryman Argyllshire Kilfinichen McGilvray Isobel 60 Wife Argyllshire Kilfinichen McGilvray Niel 30 Son Agricultural Labourer Argyllshire Iona McGilvray Marrion 21 Dau Domestic Servant Argyllshire Iona McCormick Margaret 6 Grand Daughter Scholar Argyllshire Iona Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:26 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > Trying to unravel the NUMEROUS Donald McGilvray-Isabella McArthur families > > I'll use Mullgenealogy's census records for ease of use > > On Mullgenealogy there's the following listed > > Isobel MCARTHUR > Birth : abt 1800 > Baptised : > Died : 16 Nov 1861, Catchean, Isle of Mull, Argyllshire, Scotland > Buried : > Father : John MCARTHUR > Mother : Janet MCPHIE > Marriage 1 : Donald MCGILVRAY 1 Feb 1820 > Children > John (bir) 12 Feb 1821 - > Hector (bap) 9 Jan 1822 - > Jannet (bap) 24 Aug 1823 - 31 Mar 1912 > Neil (bap) 14 Apr 1824 - 3 Feb 1901 > Neil (bap) 24 Feb 1826 - > Flora (bir) 16 Apr 1827 - > Hector (bir) 11 Oct 1828 - > Catherine (bir) abt 1829 - > Mary (bir) 12 Sep 1830 - 19 Jan 1893 > Marrion (bir) 3 Aug 1831 - > Margaret (bap) 15 Jun 1833 - > Peggy (bap) 9 Jun 1835 - 1 Jul 1855 > Angus (bir) abt 1835 - > Ann (bir) abt 1836 - > Marrion (bap) 9 Jun 1838 - > > Alarm bells started ringing when I saw 15 children listed (possible but > improbable) > > Looking at the Census we have firstly the Iona family > > 1841 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : 9 Page No : 6 House No : > 23 Locality : Kilimore 18412446 > McGilvray Donald 50 Cotter Y in Parish >> died 1863 Catchean > McGilvray Isabella 45 Y in Parish >> died 1861 Catchean > McGilvray Hector 18 Y in Parish > McGilvray Cathrine 12 Y in Parish > McGilvray Angus 7 Y in Parish > McGilvray Ann 5 Y in Parish > McPhee Angus 50 Y in Parish > > Now we see the Tir Fearagain family > > 1841 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : 1 Page No : 2 House No : > 7 Locality : Tirergain 18412007 > McGilvra Donald 40 Agric Labourer Y in Parish > McGilvra Isabella 40 Y in Parish > McGilvra John 15 Y in Parish > John above ? > McGilvra Niel 14 Y in Parish > fits with Neil bap 1826 > poss > died 1896 Salen > McGilvra Mary 12 Y in Parish > Mary above > McGilvra Pegy 6 Y in Parish > fits with Margaret bap 1835 > McGilvra Marion 2 Y in Parish > fits with Marion bap 1838 > McGilvra Jessy 15 Y in Parish > Janet above ? > > If these 6 children are removed from the Iona family, that would leave a > managable 9 children (about average) > > To further complicate matters, I have a possible third family (excluding > even more from Kilninian) > > This 'third' family had a dau Catherine/Ketty, dau Flora who married Allan > McMaster of Kilmallie, and a son Angus who died 1877 Tobermory > > This is the 'third' family 1861 & 1871 Census > > 1861 Tobermory District No : 2 Page No : 8 House No : 39 Locality : > Argyle Terrace 18616188 > MacGilvray Donald 64 Head Labourer Parish of Kilfichen > MacGilvray Isabella 60 Wife Labourer's wife Parish of Kilfichen >> > nee McArthur > MacGilvray Ketty 30 Dau Parish of Kilfichen > Campbell Mary 6 Niece Parish of Kilfichen > MacLean Jessy 2 Niece Tobermory > ??? Sally Ann 5mths Niece Tobermory > > 1871 Tobermory District No : 1 Page No : 16 House No : 102 Locality > : Tom a Vulin 18716219 > McGilvery Donald 78 Head Late Shepherd Argyleshire Kin*ch****den > McGilvery Bill 76 Wife Edinburgh > McGilvery Angus 28 Son Fisherman Argyleshire Kin*ch****den > > Any help sorting this lot out appreciated as always > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Trying to unravel the NUMEROUS Donald McGilvray-Isabella McArthur families I'll use Mullgenealogy's census records for ease of use On Mullgenealogy there's the following listed Isobel MCARTHUR Birth : abt 1800 Baptised : Died : 16 Nov 1861, Catchean, Isle of Mull, Argyllshire, Scotland Buried : Father : John MCARTHUR Mother : Janet MCPHIE Marriage 1 : Donald MCGILVRAY 1 Feb 1820 Children John (bir) 12 Feb 1821 - Hector (bap) 9 Jan 1822 - Jannet (bap) 24 Aug 1823 - 31 Mar 1912 Neil (bap) 14 Apr 1824 - 3 Feb 1901 Neil (bap) 24 Feb 1826 - Flora (bir) 16 Apr 1827 - Hector (bir) 11 Oct 1828 - Catherine (bir) abt 1829 - Mary (bir) 12 Sep 1830 - 19 Jan 1893 Marrion (bir) 3 Aug 1831 - Margaret (bap) 15 Jun 1833 - Peggy (bap) 9 Jun 1835 - 1 Jul 1855 Angus (bir) abt 1835 - Ann (bir) abt 1836 - Marrion (bap) 9 Jun 1838 - Alarm bells started ringing when I saw 15 children listed (possible but improbable) Looking at the Census we have firstly the Iona family 1841 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : 9 Page No : 6 House No : 23 Locality : Kilimore 18412446 McGilvray Donald 50 Cotter Y in Parish >> died 1863 Catchean McGilvray Isabella 45 Y in Parish >> died 1861 Catchean McGilvray Hector 18 Y in Parish McGilvray Cathrine 12 Y in Parish McGilvray Angus 7 Y in Parish McGilvray Ann 5 Y in Parish McPhee Angus 50 Y in Parish Now we see the Tir Fearagain family 1841 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : 1 Page No : 2 House No : 7 Locality : Tirergain 18412007 McGilvra Donald 40 Agric Labourer Y in Parish McGilvra Isabella 40 Y in Parish McGilvra John 15 Y in Parish > John above ? McGilvra Niel 14 Y in Parish > fits with Neil bap 1826 > poss died 1896 Salen McGilvra Mary 12 Y in Parish > Mary above McGilvra Pegy 6 Y in Parish > fits with Margaret bap 1835 McGilvra Marion 2 Y in Parish > fits with Marion bap 1838 McGilvra Jessy 15 Y in Parish > Janet above ? If these 6 children are removed from the Iona family, that would leave a managable 9 children (about average) To further complicate matters, I have a possible third family (excluding even more from Kilninian) This 'third' family had a dau Catherine/Ketty, dau Flora who married Allan McMaster of Kilmallie, and a son Angus who died 1877 Tobermory This is the 'third' family 1861 & 1871 Census 1861 Tobermory District No : 2 Page No : 8 House No : 39 Locality : Argyle Terrace 18616188 MacGilvray Donald 64 Head Labourer Parish of Kilfichen MacGilvray Isabella 60 Wife Labourer's wife Parish of Kilfichen >> nee McArthur MacGilvray Ketty 30 Dau Parish of Kilfichen Campbell Mary 6 Niece Parish of Kilfichen MacLean Jessy 2 Niece Tobermory ??? Sally Ann 5mths Niece Tobermory 1871 Tobermory District No : 1 Page No : 16 House No : 102 Locality : Tom a Vulin 18716219 McGilvery Donald 78 Head Late Shepherd Argyleshire Kin*ch****den McGilvery Bill 76 Wife Edinburgh McGilvery Angus 28 Son Fisherman Argyleshire Kin*ch****den Any help sorting this lot out appreciated as always Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk

I don't have time to dig through all my notes on these families right now but .... Daughter-in-law Janet is Janet McInnes per Iona OPR. I haven't linked her to parents yet. July 25, 1850 John MacGilvra [illegible] Catchean and Jess MacInnes Village Iona were married 1851 Iona Fionnphort McGilvray Donald 60 Farms 4a Kilfinichen McGilvray Bell 50 w Kilfinichen McGilvray John 30 s shoemaker Kilfinichen McGilvray Janet 31 dil >>>>>> nee ? m. John ? McGilvray Niel 24 s Ferryman Kilfinichen McGilvray Marion 13 d Kilfinichen McDonald John 15 Uv

Thanks Michael. Afraid the passwords didn't work for me, but thanks for trying. Jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MF Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 12:03 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] What is TNG? Jean Best way to describe TNG is to view it :) It stands for The Next Generation (of genealogy) website software Pop over to MullFamilies with the username/password mgguest (for both) Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk

Forgive me Michael but what is TNG.? I haven't tried your website but i should explain that the original of the 1841 census that I handed on to Ian came from sitting at the LDS film (hired in for me) and copying line for line so there may well have been errors in that work that I unwittingly passed on to Ian when I passed the 8 parishes on in toto. I copied it into a booklet and then onto my computer as at that stage I did not have a lap top. It is a much easier job now as I think this was done about 20 years ago when I retired !!!. jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MF Sent: Wednesday, 18 September 2013 10:17 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] MullGenealogy.co.uk - thanks to Ian Ian & Listers It's a difficult job handling so many names. I put my hand up to having made errors, and no doubt the odd few exist. While I agree that webmasters need to be informed of anything amiss, I conscientiously seek out errors/duplication. I think this may be a 'time' issue. Ian, I've no idea whether you are in employment or not, or how much time each day you spend on Mullgenealogy. On average, I work on MullFamilies 12 hours per day, 7 days a week (some days, a mind-numbing 16-17 hours) Some errors/duplication are difficult to see, yet others can stand out like a sore thumb. It would be utopian if everything was as it should be, but over time we strive to 'get there'. Personally, I think that Mullgenalogy is a good website with lots to offer. Ian has given me his reasons for not going 'TNG', but I'd be lost without it. Linda too is doing a good job with Ancestralplaces. For those Listers that have not seen a TNG website, I have created a temporary password to enable viewing. Login with < mgguest > using this for both username and password (minus the chevrons) Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] MullGenealogy.co.uk - thanks to Ian > Hi Libby and many others, > > A quick note to thank you for all your kind comments and support. > > As I have said many times in the past the website would not have grown to > the size it is and be as comprehensive that it is without the support of > so > many of you from around the world. > > It's great to know that the website has helped so many, and continues to > help research their family trees. > > I acknowledge that there are mistakes on the website. There a very, very > few on the internet that do not some errors. My hope is that the errors > are > found and can be corrected. I can only ask those who feel that the website > 'is rubbish' to stop using the website or take the more constructive view > and let me know how the website can be improved. If there are errors > please > let me know so that all benefit. > > As ever there is always room for improvement, To this end I would welcome > suggestions as to how the website could be enhanced by perhaps additional > sections and improved functionality. Within reason I will endeavour to > include your suggestions. It's a long time since I was a novice researcher > and so cannot easily put myself in such a role and therefore know how to > change things. Equally I'm sure that you might have come across ideas on > other website that you have found useful and have thought that such a > function would be useful on mullgenealogy. One benefit (and there are a > good few drawbacks) of writing your own program code is that it can be > easily (sometimes) enhanced. If you do make a suggestion, don't be to > surprised if you asked to get involved in doing some testing. What I > suppose I'm getting to is, lets all work together to make the website even > better. > > Again many thanks to you all. > > Ian > > webmaster mullgenealogy.co.uk > > > On 16 September 2013 11:44, Elizabeth McMillan <ekmcm@me.com> wrote: > >> Ian >> >> Than you from those of us who have benefitted over the years from your >> tireless and voluntary effort in terms of your advice and all of the >> information in the website. >> >> We appreciate all that you do - thank you. >> >> You have helped me so often with wise advice and ideas, together with >> your >> expert knowledge of genealogy, all of which I really value. >> >> Thanks Ian. >> >> Regards >> Libby >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message