Hello Ian, Finally found the missing Donald!! Donald McGILVRAY shepherd, 95 years, widower of Bella McARTHUR died 20/10/1885 Dunmore, Kilbrandon. Parents: Neil McGILVRAY, Shepherd, (Dec) and Flora McKINNON (Dec) Witness: Sarah McINTYRE, Granddaughter. I have not been able to find which of the daughters married a McINTYRE at this stage but will continue the search after attending to some other pressing work - like dust etc!! Jan Peasnell On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Jean Whimp <jiwhimp@optusnet.com.au>wrote: > Hi Ida. > I'm not related in any way, but just throw in the info that there was a > McArthur family in South Australia who had very strong links with that area > (I remember doing some lookups for them)so don't dsicpount that some may > have migrated to South Australia. jean > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merle and Ida > King > Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 6:20 AM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > > Hi Jan > > Thanks for the date of death of this Isabel (McArthur) McGilvra (my > spelling) it explains why the family appears in 1871 Tomavulin TBR. now to > sort out the children of Archibald McArthur and Catherine McLean as there's > possibly 2 or 3 of them (:-(((( > > The witness Flora McGilvra must be the one who m's Allan McMasters Feb 26 > 1861 in TBR M115491, 0047 > > Thanks again > Ida > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Peasnell" <2012janmp@gmail.com> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:09 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > > > > Hello Ian and Ida, > > > > The Isabella McARTHUR from Tobermory died on 25 June 1877 in (Tomavulin?) > > Tobermory aged 83 her parents were Archibald McARTHUR Farmer (Dec) and > > Catherine McLEAN (Dec) The witness was Flora McMASTER, daughter. > > > > The another brother Angus McGILVRAY Labourer, Single who died 30 June > 1877 > > aged 35 (Tomavulin?) Tobermory. Parents Donald McGILVRAY And Isabella > > McARTHUR. Witness Flora McMASTER. > > > > I wasn't able to find any results from my searches for Hector or > Catherine > > being twins either, > > > > These families are not my line but always interested in 'Donald' just in > > case. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Jan Peasnell > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Merle and Ida King > > <m_iking@mcsnet.ca>wrote: > > > >> Hi All > >> > >> After taking a holiday I'm back. Thanks Ian for all your hard work in > >> maintaining both the list and your website. I see the list has been busy > >> and > >> it will take me awhile to get through all the posting.. > >> > >> McGilvra and its numerous spellings I'm not really interested in but the > >> Isabel McArthur of Tirergain is an interest of mine. I'm sure one can > >> check > >> the census on mullgenealogy.co.uk or it's db and find who submitted > info > >> on > >> some of these people. > >> > >> >From the IGI and OPR the following are found. > >> > >> Marriage, 1 Feb. 1820, Donald McGilvra in Knockvoligan and Isabella > >> McArthur > >> in Tirergain were married. [Kilfinichen OPR]. M115424, 0001 > >> Bapt. 12 Feb. 1821, Donald McGilvra, Workman in Knockvoligan and > Isabella > >> McArthur a lawful son John McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0106 > >> > >> Bapt. 24 Aug. 1823, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a > >> lawful daughter Janet McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0340 > >> > >> Bapt. 24 Feb. 1826, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a > >> lawful son Neil McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0652 > >> > >> Bapt. 11 Oct. 1828, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a > >> lawful son Hector McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1003 > >> > >> Bapt. 12 Sep. 1830, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a > >> lawful daughter Mary McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0251 > >> > >> b. 9th, bapt. 15th June 1833, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella > >> McArthur a daughter Margaret McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1601 > >> > >> 8 June 1835, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful > >> daughter Peggy McGilvra born 16 March. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1710 > >> > >> 9 June 1838, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful > >> daughter Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1873 as > >> McGillirray > >> > >> # 2 couple ? > >> > >> Baptism, 9 Jan. 1822, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a > >> lawful > >> son Hector McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0167 > >> > >> Baptism, 14 Apr. 1824, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a > >> lawful > >> son Neil McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0366 > >> > >> These belong to which ever couple but I found no record of Catherine & > >> Hector being twins as refered below via Michael > >> > >> Bapt. 16 Apr. 1827, Donald McGilvra in Beach and Isabella McArthur a > >> lawful > >> daughter Flora McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0808 > >> > >> 3 Aug. 1831, Donald McGilvra in Glenlidale and Isabella McArthur a > >> daughter > >> Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR Mission]. C115424, 1427 > >> > >> Ida > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> > >> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM > >> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > >> > >> > >> > Ian/Listers > >> > > >> > I have now managed to sort the two (yes only two) families from the > one > >> > group on Mullgenealogy > >> > > >> > The 'Iona' family as follows (7 children) > >> > > >> > John 1821 > >> > Janet 1823 > >> > Neil 1826 > >> > Mary 1830 > >> > Margaret 1833 & 1835 > >> > Marion 1838 > >> > > >> > The 'Kilfinichen to Tobermory' family as follows (8 children) > >> > > >> > Hector 1822 > >> > Neil 1824 > >> > Flora 1827 > >> > Catherine & Hector 1828 twins > >> > Marion 1831 > >> > Angus abt 1833 > >> > Ann abt 1835 > >> > > >> > Both sets of parents Donald McGilvray/Isabella McArthur > >> > > >> > > >> > Michael > >> > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi. I've been searching on Scotland's People for a birth on Ulva between 1745 and 1755, but there is no Kilninian parish. What was the situation at that time? Was there another parish that covered Ulva? Kind regards, Cynthia Wardle

There is a Thomas McCormick born 1886 in Glasgow to John and Roseanne Mclean ps on your website you have a few things incorrect...my dad James MacCormack was born on 23rd July 1926...he also had brothers George, Robert, John, and sisters Annie and Jenny who dies age 4 Ruth > Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:43:34 -0400 > From: manateemum@gmail.com > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Thomas McCormick c. 1833 > > I'm looking at this entry from the 1911 Census. I can not determine who > Thomas McCormick is - any ideas? Thomas isn't a common forename for the > Mull McCormicks. James seems to mostly occur in descendants of James > MacCormick (c.1776)/Marion Graham so I'm wondering if Thomas is their > grandson - perhaps from their son, Alexander (1809) who I haven't traced > past his baptism. > > 1911 Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon - Iona District No : 8 Page No : 2 > House No : 9 Locality : Creich 191110090 > McCormick Thomas 78 Head Private Means > Argyllshire, Kilfinichen > McCormick James 39 Son Shopkeeper - Grocer > Lanark, Glasgow > McColl Duncan 12 Boarder School Lanark, Glasgow > > I found a marriage for Thomas McCormick to Rose Anne Lennon 9 Oct 1870 > Monkland, Lanarkshire and two children: > > Patrick b. 14 Apr 1873 Bothwell, Lanarkshire > James b. 23 Sep 1871 Bothwell, Lanarkshire (fits the James in the census > entry). > > Any ideas? Thanks > > > > -- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan, Many thanks. Great work. Ian On 24 September 2013 08:22, Janice Peasnell <2012janmp@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Ian, > > Finally found the missing Donald!! > > Donald McGILVRAY shepherd, 95 years, widower of Bella McARTHUR died > 20/10/1885 Dunmore, Kilbrandon. > Parents: Neil McGILVRAY, Shepherd, (Dec) and Flora McKINNON (Dec) > Witness: Sarah McINTYRE, Granddaughter. > > I have not been able to find which of the daughters married a McINTYRE at > this stage but will continue the search after attending to some other > pressing work - like dust etc!! > > Jan Peasnell > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Jean Whimp <jiwhimp@optusnet.com.au > >wrote: > > > Hi Ida. > > I'm not related in any way, but just throw in the info that there was a > > McArthur family in South Australia who had very strong links with that > area > > (I remember doing some lookups for them)so don't dsicpount that some may > > have migrated to South Australia. jean > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merle and Ida > > King > > Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 6:20 AM > > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > > > > Hi Jan > > > > Thanks for the date of death of this Isabel (McArthur) McGilvra (my > > spelling) it explains why the family appears in 1871 Tomavulin TBR. now > to > > sort out the children of Archibald McArthur and Catherine McLean as > there's > > possibly 2 or 3 of them (:-(((( > > > > The witness Flora McGilvra must be the one who m's Allan McMasters Feb 26 > > 1861 in TBR M115491, 0047 > > > > Thanks again > > Ida > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janice Peasnell" <2012janmp@gmail.com> > > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:09 PM > > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > > > > > > > Hello Ian and Ida, > > > > > > The Isabella McARTHUR from Tobermory died on 25 June 1877 in > (Tomavulin?) > > > Tobermory aged 83 her parents were Archibald McARTHUR Farmer (Dec) and > > > Catherine McLEAN (Dec) The witness was Flora McMASTER, daughter. > > > > > > The another brother Angus McGILVRAY Labourer, Single who died 30 June > > 1877 > > > aged 35 (Tomavulin?) Tobermory. Parents Donald McGILVRAY And Isabella > > > McARTHUR. Witness Flora McMASTER. > > > > > > I wasn't able to find any results from my searches for Hector or > > Catherine > > > being twins either, > > > > > > These families are not my line but always interested in 'Donald' just > in > > > case. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Jan Peasnell > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Merle and Ida King > > > <m_iking@mcsnet.ca>wrote: > > > > > >> Hi All > > >> > > >> After taking a holiday I'm back. Thanks Ian for all your hard work in > > >> maintaining both the list and your website. I see the list has been > busy > > >> and > > >> it will take me awhile to get through all the posting.. > > >> > > >> McGilvra and its numerous spellings I'm not really interested in but > the > > >> Isabel McArthur of Tirergain is an interest of mine. I'm sure one can > > >> check > > >> the census on mullgenealogy.co.uk or it's db and find who submitted > > info > > >> on > > >> some of these people. > > >> > > >> >From the IGI and OPR the following are found. > > >> > > >> Marriage, 1 Feb. 1820, Donald McGilvra in Knockvoligan and Isabella > > >> McArthur > > >> in Tirergain were married. [Kilfinichen OPR]. M115424, 0001 > > >> Bapt. 12 Feb. 1821, Donald McGilvra, Workman in Knockvoligan and > > Isabella > > >> McArthur a lawful son John McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0106 > > >> > > >> Bapt. 24 Aug. 1823, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella > McArthur a > > >> lawful daughter Janet McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0340 > > >> > > >> Bapt. 24 Feb. 1826, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella > McArthur a > > >> lawful son Neil McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0652 > > >> > > >> Bapt. 11 Oct. 1828, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella > McArthur a > > >> lawful son Hector McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1003 > > >> > > >> Bapt. 12 Sep. 1830, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella > McArthur a > > >> lawful daughter Mary McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0251 > > >> > > >> b. 9th, bapt. 15th June 1833, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and > Isabella > > >> McArthur a daughter Margaret McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, > 1601 > > >> > > >> 8 June 1835, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a > lawful > > >> daughter Peggy McGilvra born 16 March. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, > 1710 > > >> > > >> 9 June 1838, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a > lawful > > >> daughter Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1873 as > > >> McGillirray > > >> > > >> # 2 couple ? > > >> > > >> Baptism, 9 Jan. 1822, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a > > >> lawful > > >> son Hector McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0167 > > >> > > >> Baptism, 14 Apr. 1824, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a > > >> lawful > > >> son Neil McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0366 > > >> > > >> These belong to which ever couple but I found no record of Catherine & > > >> Hector being twins as refered below via Michael > > >> > > >> Bapt. 16 Apr. 1827, Donald McGilvra in Beach and Isabella McArthur a > > >> lawful > > >> daughter Flora McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0808 > > >> > > >> 3 Aug. 1831, Donald McGilvra in Glenlidale and Isabella McArthur a > > >> daughter > > >> Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR Mission]. C115424, 1427 > > >> > > >> Ida > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> > > >> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > > >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM > > >> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > > >> > > >> > > >> > Ian/Listers > > >> > > > >> > I have now managed to sort the two (yes only two) families from the > > one > > >> > group on Mullgenealogy > > >> > > > >> > The 'Iona' family as follows (7 children) > > >> > > > >> > John 1821 > > >> > Janet 1823 > > >> > Neil 1826 > > >> > Mary 1830 > > >> > Margaret 1833 & 1835 > > >> > Marion 1838 > > >> > > > >> > The 'Kilfinichen to Tobermory' family as follows (8 children) > > >> > > > >> > Hector 1822 > > >> > Neil 1824 > > >> > Flora 1827 > > >> > Catherine & Hector 1828 twins > > >> > Marion 1831 > > >> > Angus abt 1833 > > >> > Ann abt 1835 > > >> > > > >> > Both sets of parents Donald McGilvray/Isabella McArthur > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Michael > > >> > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------- > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ida. I'm not related in any way, but just throw in the info that there was a McArthur family in South Australia who had very strong links with that area (I remember doing some lookups for them)so don't dsicpount that some may have migrated to South Australia. jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merle and Ida King Sent: Tuesday, 24 September 2013 6:20 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur Hi Jan Thanks for the date of death of this Isabel (McArthur) McGilvra (my spelling) it explains why the family appears in 1871 Tomavulin TBR. now to sort out the children of Archibald McArthur and Catherine McLean as there's possibly 2 or 3 of them (:-(((( The witness Flora McGilvra must be the one who m's Allan McMasters Feb 26 1861 in TBR M115491, 0047 Thanks again Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Peasnell" <2012janmp@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > Hello Ian and Ida, > > The Isabella McARTHUR from Tobermory died on 25 June 1877 in (Tomavulin?) > Tobermory aged 83 her parents were Archibald McARTHUR Farmer (Dec) and > Catherine McLEAN (Dec) The witness was Flora McMASTER, daughter. > > The another brother Angus McGILVRAY Labourer, Single who died 30 June 1877 > aged 35 (Tomavulin?) Tobermory. Parents Donald McGILVRAY And Isabella > McARTHUR. Witness Flora McMASTER. > > I wasn't able to find any results from my searches for Hector or Catherine > being twins either, > > These families are not my line but always interested in 'Donald' just in > case. > > Kind regards > > Jan Peasnell > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Merle and Ida King > <m_iking@mcsnet.ca>wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> After taking a holiday I'm back. Thanks Ian for all your hard work in >> maintaining both the list and your website. I see the list has been busy >> and >> it will take me awhile to get through all the posting.. >> >> McGilvra and its numerous spellings I'm not really interested in but the >> Isabel McArthur of Tirergain is an interest of mine. I'm sure one can >> check >> the census on mullgenealogy.co.uk or it's db and find who submitted info >> on >> some of these people. >> >> >From the IGI and OPR the following are found. >> >> Marriage, 1 Feb. 1820, Donald McGilvra in Knockvoligan and Isabella >> McArthur >> in Tirergain were married. [Kilfinichen OPR]. M115424, 0001 >> Bapt. 12 Feb. 1821, Donald McGilvra, Workman in Knockvoligan and Isabella >> McArthur a lawful son John McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0106 >> >> Bapt. 24 Aug. 1823, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a >> lawful daughter Janet McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0340 >> >> Bapt. 24 Feb. 1826, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a >> lawful son Neil McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0652 >> >> Bapt. 11 Oct. 1828, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a >> lawful son Hector McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1003 >> >> Bapt. 12 Sep. 1830, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a >> lawful daughter Mary McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0251 >> >> b. 9th, bapt. 15th June 1833, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella >> McArthur a daughter Margaret McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1601 >> >> 8 June 1835, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful >> daughter Peggy McGilvra born 16 March. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1710 >> >> 9 June 1838, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful >> daughter Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1873 as >> McGillirray >> >> # 2 couple ? >> >> Baptism, 9 Jan. 1822, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a >> lawful >> son Hector McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0167 >> >> Baptism, 14 Apr. 1824, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a >> lawful >> son Neil McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0366 >> >> These belong to which ever couple but I found no record of Catherine & >> Hector being twins as refered below via Michael >> >> Bapt. 16 Apr. 1827, Donald McGilvra in Beach and Isabella McArthur a >> lawful >> daughter Flora McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0808 >> >> 3 Aug. 1831, Donald McGilvra in Glenlidale and Isabella McArthur a >> daughter >> Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR Mission]. C115424, 1427 >> >> Ida >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> >> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM >> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur >> >> >> > Ian/Listers >> > >> > I have now managed to sort the two (yes only two) families from the one >> > group on Mullgenealogy >> > >> > The 'Iona' family as follows (7 children) >> > >> > John 1821 >> > Janet 1823 >> > Neil 1826 >> > Mary 1830 >> > Margaret 1833 & 1835 >> > Marion 1838 >> > >> > The 'Kilfinichen to Tobermory' family as follows (8 children) >> > >> > Hector 1822 >> > Neil 1824 >> > Flora 1827 >> > Catherine & Hector 1828 twins >> > Marion 1831 >> > Angus abt 1833 >> > Ann abt 1835 >> > >> > Both sets of parents Donald McGilvray/Isabella McArthur >> > >> > >> > Michael >> > www.mullfamilies.co.uk >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jan Thanks for the date of death of this Isabel (McArthur) McGilvra (my spelling) it explains why the family appears in 1871 Tomavulin TBR. now to sort out the children of Archibald McArthur and Catherine McLean as there's possibly 2 or 3 of them (:-(((( The witness Flora McGilvra must be the one who m's Allan McMasters Feb 26 1861 in TBR M115491, 0047 Thanks again Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Peasnell" <2012janmp@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > Hello Ian and Ida, > > The Isabella McARTHUR from Tobermory died on 25 June 1877 in (Tomavulin?) > Tobermory aged 83 her parents were Archibald McARTHUR Farmer (Dec) and > Catherine McLEAN (Dec) The witness was Flora McMASTER, daughter. > > The another brother Angus McGILVRAY Labourer, Single who died 30 June 1877 > aged 35 (Tomavulin?) Tobermory. Parents Donald McGILVRAY And Isabella > McARTHUR. Witness Flora McMASTER. > > I wasn't able to find any results from my searches for Hector or Catherine > being twins either, > > These families are not my line but always interested in 'Donald' just in > case. > > Kind regards > > Jan Peasnell > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Merle and Ida King > <m_iking@mcsnet.ca>wrote: > >> Hi All >> >> After taking a holiday I'm back. Thanks Ian for all your hard work in >> maintaining both the list and your website. I see the list has been busy >> and >> it will take me awhile to get through all the posting.. >> >> McGilvra and its numerous spellings I'm not really interested in but the >> Isabel McArthur of Tirergain is an interest of mine. I'm sure one can >> check >> the census on mullgenealogy.co.uk or it's db and find who submitted info >> on >> some of these people. >> >> >From the IGI and OPR the following are found. >> >> Marriage, 1 Feb. 1820, Donald McGilvra in Knockvoligan and Isabella >> McArthur >> in Tirergain were married. [Kilfinichen OPR]. M115424, 0001 >> Bapt. 12 Feb. 1821, Donald McGilvra, Workman in Knockvoligan and Isabella >> McArthur a lawful son John McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0106 >> >> Bapt. 24 Aug. 1823, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a >> lawful daughter Janet McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0340 >> >> Bapt. 24 Feb. 1826, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a >> lawful son Neil McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0652 >> >> Bapt. 11 Oct. 1828, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a >> lawful son Hector McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1003 >> >> Bapt. 12 Sep. 1830, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a >> lawful daughter Mary McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0251 >> >> b. 9th, bapt. 15th June 1833, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella >> McArthur a daughter Margaret McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1601 >> >> 8 June 1835, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful >> daughter Peggy McGilvra born 16 March. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1710 >> >> 9 June 1838, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful >> daughter Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1873 as >> McGillirray >> >> # 2 couple ? >> >> Baptism, 9 Jan. 1822, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a >> lawful >> son Hector McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0167 >> >> Baptism, 14 Apr. 1824, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a >> lawful >> son Neil McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0366 >> >> These belong to which ever couple but I found no record of Catherine & >> Hector being twins as refered below via Michael >> >> Bapt. 16 Apr. 1827, Donald McGilvra in Beach and Isabella McArthur a >> lawful >> daughter Flora McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0808 >> >> 3 Aug. 1831, Donald McGilvra in Glenlidale and Isabella McArthur a >> daughter >> Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR Mission]. C115424, 1427 >> >> Ida >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> >> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM >> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur >> >> >> > Ian/Listers >> > >> > I have now managed to sort the two (yes only two) families from the one >> > group on Mullgenealogy >> > >> > The 'Iona' family as follows (7 children) >> > >> > John 1821 >> > Janet 1823 >> > Neil 1826 >> > Mary 1830 >> > Margaret 1833 & 1835 >> > Marion 1838 >> > >> > The 'Kilfinichen to Tobermory' family as follows (8 children) >> > >> > Hector 1822 >> > Neil 1824 >> > Flora 1827 >> > Catherine & Hector 1828 twins >> > Marion 1831 >> > Angus abt 1833 >> > Ann abt 1835 >> > >> > Both sets of parents Donald McGilvray/Isabella McArthur >> > >> > >> > Michael >> > www.mullfamilies.co.uk >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I appreciate all your hard work Ian ruth > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:27:10 +0100 > From: mullgenealogy@gmail.com > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] MullGenealogy.co.uk - thanks to Ian > > Hi Libby and many others, > > A quick note to thank you for all your kind comments and support. > > As I have said many times in the past the website would not have grown to > the size it is and be as comprehensive that it is without the support of so > many of you from around the world. > > It's great to know that the website has helped so many, and continues to > help research their family trees. > > I acknowledge that there are mistakes on the website. There a very, very > few on the internet that do not some errors. My hope is that the errors are > found and can be corrected. I can only ask those who feel that the website > 'is rubbish' to stop using the website or take the more constructive view > and let me know how the website can be improved. If there are errors please > let me know so that all benefit. > > As ever there is always room for improvement, To this end I would welcome > suggestions as to how the website could be enhanced by perhaps additional > sections and improved functionality. Within reason I will endeavour to > include your suggestions. It's a long time since I was a novice researcher > and so cannot easily put myself in such a role and therefore know how to > change things. Equally I'm sure that you might have come across ideas on > other website that you have found useful and have thought that such a > function would be useful on mullgenealogy. One benefit (and there are a > good few drawbacks) of writing your own program code is that it can be > easily (sometimes) enhanced. If you do make a suggestion, don't be to > surprised if you asked to get involved in doing some testing. What I > suppose I'm getting to is, lets all work together to make the website even > better. > > Again many thanks to you all. > > Ian > > webmaster mullgenealogy.co.uk > > > On 16 September 2013 11:44, Elizabeth McMillan <ekmcm@me.com> wrote: > > > Ian > > > > Than you from those of us who have benefitted over the years from your > > tireless and voluntary effort in terms of your advice and all of the > > information in the website. > > > > We appreciate all that you do - thank you. > > > > You have helped me so often with wise advice and ideas, together with your > > expert knowledge of genealogy, all of which I really value. > > > > Thanks Ian. > > > > Regards > > Libby > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ian and Ida, The Isabella McARTHUR from Tobermory died on 25 June 1877 in (Tomavulin?) Tobermory aged 83 her parents were Archibald McARTHUR Farmer (Dec) and Catherine McLEAN (Dec) The witness was Flora McMASTER, daughter. The another brother Angus McGILVRAY Labourer, Single who died 30 June 1877 aged 35 (Tomavulin?) Tobermory. Parents Donald McGILVRAY And Isabella McARTHUR. Witness Flora McMASTER. I wasn't able to find any results from my searches for Hector or Catherine being twins either, These families are not my line but always interested in 'Donald' just in case. Kind regards Jan Peasnell On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Merle and Ida King <m_iking@mcsnet.ca>wrote: > Hi All > > After taking a holiday I'm back. Thanks Ian for all your hard work in > maintaining both the list and your website. I see the list has been busy > and > it will take me awhile to get through all the posting.. > > McGilvra and its numerous spellings I'm not really interested in but the > Isabel McArthur of Tirergain is an interest of mine. I'm sure one can check > the census on mullgenealogy.co.uk or it's db and find who submitted info > on > some of these people. > > >From the IGI and OPR the following are found. > > Marriage, 1 Feb. 1820, Donald McGilvra in Knockvoligan and Isabella > McArthur > in Tirergain were married. [Kilfinichen OPR]. M115424, 0001 > Bapt. 12 Feb. 1821, Donald McGilvra, Workman in Knockvoligan and Isabella > McArthur a lawful son John McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0106 > > Bapt. 24 Aug. 1823, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a > lawful daughter Janet McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0340 > > Bapt. 24 Feb. 1826, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a > lawful son Neil McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0652 > > Bapt. 11 Oct. 1828, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a > lawful son Hector McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1003 > > Bapt. 12 Sep. 1830, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a > lawful daughter Mary McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0251 > > b. 9th, bapt. 15th June 1833, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella > McArthur a daughter Margaret McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1601 > > 8 June 1835, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful > daughter Peggy McGilvra born 16 March. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1710 > > 9 June 1838, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful > daughter Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1873 as McGillirray > > # 2 couple ? > > Baptism, 9 Jan. 1822, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a lawful > son Hector McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0167 > > Baptism, 14 Apr. 1824, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a > lawful > son Neil McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0366 > > These belong to which ever couple but I found no record of Catherine & > Hector being twins as refered below via Michael > > Bapt. 16 Apr. 1827, Donald McGilvra in Beach and Isabella McArthur a lawful > daughter Flora McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0808 > > 3 Aug. 1831, Donald McGilvra in Glenlidale and Isabella McArthur a daughter > Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR Mission]. C115424, 1427 > > Ida > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > > > > Ian/Listers > > > > I have now managed to sort the two (yes only two) families from the one > > group on Mullgenealogy > > > > The 'Iona' family as follows (7 children) > > > > John 1821 > > Janet 1823 > > Neil 1826 > > Mary 1830 > > Margaret 1833 & 1835 > > Marion 1838 > > > > The 'Kilfinichen to Tobermory' family as follows (8 children) > > > > Hector 1822 > > Neil 1824 > > Flora 1827 > > Catherine & Hector 1828 twins > > Marion 1831 > > Angus abt 1833 > > Ann abt 1835 > > > > Both sets of parents Donald McGilvray/Isabella McArthur > > > > > > Michael > > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Kevin, I would consider it the same family. This is a cottar family that has lived through the Potato famine so even if they did add a few years to their ages they probably looked as old as they claimed. You could check their death certificates to see when they may have been born - this is sometimes a bit 'out' as well, depending on who the witness is. Kind regards Jan Peasnell On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Kevin <kcscott@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I was reviewing the information i have and noticed an anomaly i hope that > someone can help with. This is in relation to Martin Campbell (abt 1784 - > abt 1866, Kilfinichen)( my GGG Grandfather) and his wife Christina Beaton > (abt 1804 - 1890). > > I see on the tree i have, that in the 1841 census at Ardchiavaig i have the > following: > Martin Campbell 35. Ag Lab > Christina 32 > Margaret 70 (McGillivray?) > John. 16 > Archibald 14 > Margaret. 12 > Jannet. 10 > Donald. 8 > Nicol 6 > Alexander. 4 > Anne/a. 1 > > Whereas on the 1851 census at Ardchiavaig is > Martin. 57. Cottar receiving alms > Christina 47 > Donald 17 > Nicol. 15 > Alexander. 13 > Ann. 11 > Elizabeth. 9 > Angus. 6 > James. 4 > > Given the similarities with the age of the children, and that assumed that > John, Archibald, Margaret and Jannet have moved out, what could explain the > age variations for Martin and Christina? Could they have lied in order to > receive alms? Or are they just not the same family. > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions much appreciated! > > Many thanks in advance, > > Kevin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks for your comments which are really helpful. Ive found Martins death certificate on Scotland's People which shows that he died 6 April 1866 at Uisken, aged 74 and the death was notified by Duncan Campbell (nephew) not present, which could also contribute for the age discrepancy. Shows married to Christina Beaton, so am sure its the right one and parents listed as Archibald Campbell and Margaret McGilvray. Ian, i didnt know about the rounding of ages in 1841. Jan, i have a photo of Martin Campbell, and he certainly looked like he had a hard life! Kevin On Sunday, September 22, 2013, Kevin wrote: > Hi all, > > I was reviewing the information i have and noticed an anomaly i hope that > someone can help with. This is in relation to Martin Campbell (abt 1784 - > abt 1866, Kilfinichen)( my GGG Grandfather) and his wife Christina Beaton > (abt 1804 - 1890). > > I see on the tree i have, that in the 1841 census at Ardchiavaig i have > the following: > Martin Campbell 35. Ag Lab > Christina 32 > Margaret 70 (McGillivray?) > John. 16 > Archibald 14 > Margaret. 12 > Jannet. 10 > Donald. 8 > Nicol 6 > Alexander. 4 > Anne/a. 1 > > Whereas on the 1851 census at Ardchiavaig is > Martin. 57. Cottar receiving alms > Christina 47 > Donald 17 > Nicol. 15 > Alexander. 13 > Ann. 11 > Elizabeth. 9 > Angus. 6 > James. 4 > > Given the similarities with the age of the children, and that assumed that > John, Archibald, Margaret and Jannet have moved out, what could explain the > age variations for Martin and Christina? Could they have lied in order to > receive alms? Or are they just not the same family. > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions much appreciated! > > Many thanks in advance, > > Kevin >

Tough, if Martin died before 1855 which is always a disappointment. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Campbell's in Mull > Hello Kevin, > > One of the other factors to take into account in the rounding of ages in > the 1841 census. > > Directions to Enumerators for the 1841 Census. > For infants under one year of age, state the number of months. >>From one year to 15 state the age on the last birthday. > For persons 15 years and upwards,write as follows,instead of the exact age. > For persons between the ages of > 15 and 20 write 15 > 20 and 25 write 20 > 25 and 30 write 25 > 30 and 35 write 30 > 35 and 40 write 35 > 40 and 45 write 40 > 45 and 50 write 45 > 50 and 55 write 50 > 55 and 60 write 55 > 60 and 65 write 60 > 65 and 70 write 65 > 70 and 75 write 70 > > I take it that you know the family are also in the 1861 census and the 1871 > minus Martin > > Hope this helps. > > Ian

Hi John I'm not sure if I've mentioned this or not but have you access to the LDS (Latter Day Saints) site or facility. As there is a James A Cameron listed as having done research on your family see his film with 0178143, film he's mentioned in alot of the IGI's information for different surnames. Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cameron" <jrcameron@centurytel.net> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:12 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray's of Iona > Does anyone on the list have any idea of the names of parents and/or > siblings of my ggg grandmother Marrion McGilvray? She was born c 1788, I > believe on Iona. Her marriage to Angus Cameron on March 25, 1811 is shown > in the Kilfinichen Parish records, which lists them both as residents of > Iona. The birth/baptism of their first four children, including my gg > grandfather John Cameron, are also in the OPR. Then in about 1820 they > left > for Quebec, Canada, where the next four children were born. > > > > John Cameron > > Spooner, Wisconsin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Kevin, One of the other factors to take into account in the rounding of ages in the 1841 census. Directions to Enumerators for the 1841 Census. For infants under one year of age, state the number of months. >From one year to 15 state the age on the last birthday. For persons 15 years and upwards,write as follows,instead of the exact age. For persons between the ages of 15 and 20 write 15 20 and 25 write 20 25 and 30 write 25 30 and 35 write 30 35 and 40 write 35 40 and 45 write 40 45 and 50 write 45 50 and 55 write 50 55 and 60 write 55 60 and 65 write 60 65 and 70 write 65 70 and 75 write 70 I take it that you know the family are also in the 1861 census and the 1871 minus Martin Hope this helps. Ian On 22 September 2013 12:06, Janice Peasnell <2012janmp@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Kevin, > > I would consider it the same family. This is a cottar family that has > lived through the Potato famine so even if they did add a few years to > their ages they probably looked as old as they claimed. You could check > their death certificates to see when they may have been born - this is > sometimes a bit 'out' as well, depending on who the witness is. > > Kind regards > > Jan Peasnell > > > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Kevin <kcscott@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I was reviewing the information i have and noticed an anomaly i hope that > > someone can help with. This is in relation to Martin Campbell (abt 1784 > - > > abt 1866, Kilfinichen)( my GGG Grandfather) and his wife Christina Beaton > > (abt 1804 - 1890). > > > > I see on the tree i have, that in the 1841 census at Ardchiavaig i have > the > > following: > > Martin Campbell 35. Ag Lab > > Christina 32 > > Margaret 70 (McGillivray?) > > John. 16 > > Archibald 14 > > Margaret. 12 > > Jannet. 10 > > Donald. 8 > > Nicol 6 > > Alexander. 4 > > Anne/a. 1 > > > > Whereas on the 1851 census at Ardchiavaig is > > Martin. 57. Cottar receiving alms > > Christina 47 > > Donald 17 > > Nicol. 15 > > Alexander. 13 > > Ann. 11 > > Elizabeth. 9 > > Angus. 6 > > James. 4 > > > > Given the similarities with the age of the children, and that assumed > that > > John, Archibald, Margaret and Jannet have moved out, what could explain > the > > age variations for Martin and Christina? Could they have lied in order to > > receive alms? Or are they just not the same family. > > > > Any thoughts, comments or suggestions much appreciated! > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > > > Kevin > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, I was reviewing the information i have and noticed an anomaly i hope that someone can help with. This is in relation to Martin Campbell (abt 1784 - abt 1866, Kilfinichen)( my GGG Grandfather) and his wife Christina Beaton (abt 1804 - 1890). I see on the tree i have, that in the 1841 census at Ardchiavaig i have the following: Martin Campbell 35. Ag Lab Christina 32 Margaret 70 (McGillivray?) John. 16 Archibald 14 Margaret. 12 Jannet. 10 Donald. 8 Nicol 6 Alexander. 4 Anne/a. 1 Whereas on the 1851 census at Ardchiavaig is Martin. 57. Cottar receiving alms Christina 47 Donald 17 Nicol. 15 Alexander. 13 Ann. 11 Elizabeth. 9 Angus. 6 James. 4 Given the similarities with the age of the children, and that assumed that John, Archibald, Margaret and Jannet have moved out, what could explain the age variations for Martin and Christina? Could they have lied in order to receive alms? Or are they just not the same family. Any thoughts, comments or suggestions much appreciated! Many thanks in advance, Kevin

Hi All After taking a holiday I'm back. Thanks Ian for all your hard work in maintaining both the list and your website. I see the list has been busy and it will take me awhile to get through all the posting.. McGilvra and its numerous spellings I'm not really interested in but the Isabel McArthur of Tirergain is an interest of mine. I'm sure one can check the census on mullgenealogy.co.uk or it's db and find who submitted info on some of these people. >From the IGI and OPR the following are found. Marriage, 1 Feb. 1820, Donald McGilvra in Knockvoligan and Isabella McArthur in Tirergain were married. [Kilfinichen OPR]. M115424, 0001 Bapt. 12 Feb. 1821, Donald McGilvra, Workman in Knockvoligan and Isabella McArthur a lawful son John McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0106 Bapt. 24 Aug. 1823, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful daughter Janet McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0340 Bapt. 24 Feb. 1826, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful son Neil McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0652 Bapt. 11 Oct. 1828, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful son Hector McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1003 Bapt. 12 Sep. 1830, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful daughter Mary McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0251 b. 9th, bapt. 15th June 1833, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a daughter Margaret McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1601 8 June 1835, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful daughter Peggy McGilvra born 16 March. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1710 9 June 1838, Donald McGilvra in Tirergain and Isabella McArthur a lawful daughter Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 1873 as McGillirray # 2 couple ? Baptism, 9 Jan. 1822, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a lawful son Hector McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0167 Baptism, 14 Apr. 1824, Donald McGillivray and Isabel McArthur, Arin a lawful son Neil McGillivray. [Kilninian OPR]. C115444, 0366 These belong to which ever couple but I found no record of Catherine & Hector being twins as refered below via Michael Bapt. 16 Apr. 1827, Donald McGilvra in Beach and Isabella McArthur a lawful daughter Flora McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR]. C115424, 0808 3 Aug. 1831, Donald McGilvra in Glenlidale and Isabella McArthur a daughter Marrion McGilvra. [Kilfinichen OPR Mission]. C115424, 1427 Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: "MF" <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 8:55 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > Ian/Listers > > I have now managed to sort the two (yes only two) families from the one > group on Mullgenealogy > > The 'Iona' family as follows (7 children) > > John 1821 > Janet 1823 > Neil 1826 > Mary 1830 > Margaret 1833 & 1835 > Marion 1838 > > The 'Kilfinichen to Tobermory' family as follows (8 children) > > Hector 1822 > Neil 1824 > Flora 1827 > Catherine & Hector 1828 twins > Marion 1831 > Angus abt 1833 > Ann abt 1835 > > Both sets of parents Donald McGilvray/Isabella McArthur > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ian & all Well, knock me down with a feather !! Clearly our definitions of webmaster/site owner differ somewhat, and your comments contradict what you said to me. Using an analogy, if a dog poops on your doorstep, you clean it up. Never mind, I want to keep the peace and no more postings will come from me. Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > Hi Michael, > >>> Mullgenealogy is Ian's website and he's the person that should be > contacted should a question arise. > > The main purpose of placing the source on the website is so that > individuals can contact directly the supplier of the information in order > to verify or exchange information if they are related. > > In either case I would like to think that they would then notify me via > the > list of any additions or corrections. I have plenty to do without acting > as > a go between in such cases. > > I do not consider myself to be the person to contact when a questions > arises. I would much rather the two individuals worked together off-line > in > order to arrive at the correct information. It would also reduce the > amount > of traffic on the list which would in the large part be of no interest to > most list subscribers. Once a consensus has been agreed is the time for a > posting when others will have the opportunity to comment. > > Please keep up the good work breaking down the walls but equally remember > that sitting for such long period at a computer screen is not good for > your > eyes. It would not be allowed and even then you would be expected to take > at least five minutes in every hour away from the screen. All I'm saying > is > please be careful. > > Ian > > of the message

Hi John! I have an Allan Cameron b. Scotland abt 1816, no parents or siblings as of yet but marrying a MacArthur, having 9 children in Ontario, first born being Angus, b. Abt 1852-53... -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Cameron Sent: September-21-13 9:12 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray's of Iona Does anyone on the list have any idea of the names of parents and/or siblings of my ggg grandmother Marrion McGilvray? She was born c 1788, I believe on Iona. Her marriage to Angus Cameron on March 25, 1811 is shown in the Kilfinichen Parish records, which lists them both as residents of Iona. The birth/baptism of their first four children, including my gg grandfather John Cameron, are also in the OPR. Then in about 1820 they left for Quebec, Canada, where the next four children were born. John Cameron Spooner, Wisconsin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michael, >> Mullgenealogy is Ian's website and he's the person that should be contacted should a question arise. The main purpose of placing the source on the website is so that individuals can contact directly the supplier of the information in order to verify or exchange information if they are related. In either case I would like to think that they would then notify me via the list of any additions or corrections. I have plenty to do without acting as a go between in such cases. I do not consider myself to be the person to contact when a questions arises. I would much rather the two individuals worked together off-line in order to arrive at the correct information. It would also reduce the amount of traffic on the list which would in the large part be of no interest to most list subscribers. Once a consensus has been agreed is the time for a posting when others will have the opportunity to comment. Please keep up the good work breaking down the walls but equally remember that sitting for such long period at a computer screen is not good for your eyes. It would not be allowed and even then you would be expected to take at least five minutes in every hour away from the screen. All I'm saying is please be careful. Ian On 21 September 2013 02:14, MF <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> wrote: > Jan > > I'm more than a little bit more than bewildered why you're having a moan at > me !! > > Mullgenealogy is Ian's website and he's the person that should be contacted > should a question arise. > > I've spoken to Ian off list, and he's happy to be notified of any > errors/duplication. > > As far as I'm aware, I'm not related to any of these families, but what's > the harm in pointing out inacurracies ? > > I make mistakes, we all do : but I'm happy to have any pointed out so they > can be corrected. > > As I tend to MullFamilies many hours/day, I don't have time to check who's > submitted the info, nor to contact them. For privacy issues, I don't post > email addresses on site. Contacting you directly would be an invasion of > your privacy. > > Also, once information is on a website, it's there to be seen by anyone who > visits that site (whether their family or not). : it's in the public > domain. > > You're horrified that I spend 12 hours/day researching and updating my > website ??!! > > Surely you should be applauding me for the dedication, being a pro-active > webmaster, breaking down brick walls and generally keeping 200 website > members quite happy, thank you. > > Anyone else want to have a go ? > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Peasnell" <2012janmp@gmail.com> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:49 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McGilvray-McArthur > > > > Hello All, > > > > I am a little bit bewildered to say the least as to why you have not > > contacted me about this entry of Mull Genealogy Michael as it is so very > > obviously MY mistake and certainly not Ians. My contact address is up to > > date and I am recorded as the source of the information. > > > > I, like Jean had written down a lot of this from the original documents > on > > Mull as far back as 1981 and some of the pages were very hard to read - > > not > > quite like today's hit a button and then complain if it isn't perfect! > As > > I wrote down hundreds of entries over the week that I spent at both the > > Tobermory Museum and the old Ross of Mull FH site, I don't doubt that > > there > > are a lot more mistakes out there. > > > > I am not quite sure which one of these families you are related to, but > if > > anyone had contacted me I would have looked to see why I had made the > > mistake and then asked Ian to change it. I would appreciate it in future > > that you do that instead of constantly putting up changes for Ian when > > those changes have to come from the source of the information, and it > > would > > be better if you contacted those people off line as then the site doesn't > > have to get involved with something that isn't productive. > > > > The greater majority of information that Ian has on his site from me has > > never been on the Rootsweb site. I gave it to him so as others > researching > > their OWN family trees could have that information or could contact me in > > regard to other contacts I may have. I certainly didn't expect it to be > > used in any other way. > > > > Oh, and by the way, if I thought Ian was sitting at his computer 12 hours > > a > > day 7 days a week I would be horrified as would we all. Ian has a life > > and > > although a lot of his time has been dedicated to the Mull Genealogy site > > over many years, His move to Mull was long anticipated and one hopes he > > is > > out there enjoying every minute of it - weather permitting. > > > > Jan Peasnell > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello All, I am a little bit bewildered to say the least as to why you have not contacted me about this entry of Mull Genealogy Michael as it is so very obviously MY mistake and certainly not Ians. My contact address is up to date and I am recorded as the source of the information. I, like Jean had written down a lot of this from the original documents on Mull as far back as 1981 and some of the pages were very hard to read - not quite like today's hit a button and then complain if it isn't perfect! As I wrote down hundreds of entries over the week that I spent at both the Tobermory Museum and the old Ross of Mull FH site, I don't doubt that there are a lot more mistakes out there. I am not quite sure which one of these families you are related to, but if anyone had contacted me I would have looked to see why I had made the mistake and then asked Ian to change it. I would appreciate it in future that you do that instead of constantly putting up changes for Ian when those changes have to come from the source of the information, and it would be better if you contacted those people off line as then the site doesn't have to get involved with something that isn't productive. The greater majority of information that Ian has on his site from me has never been on the Rootsweb site. I gave it to him so as others researching their OWN family trees could have that information or could contact me in regard to other contacts I may have. I certainly didn't expect it to be used in any other way. Oh, and by the way, if I thought Ian was sitting at his computer 12 hours a day 7 days a week I would be horrified as would we all. Ian has a life and although a lot of his time has been dedicated to the Mull Genealogy site over many years, His move to Mull was long anticipated and one hopes he is out there enjoying every minute of it - weather permitting. Jan Peasnell On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Ian Phillips <mullgenealogy@gmail.com>wrote: > Well done Michael. I knew that I only had to wait and you would sort it. > > Ian > > > On 20 September 2013 15:55, MF <mf@mullfamilies.plus.com> wrote: > > > Ian/Listers > > > > I have now managed to sort the two (yes only two) families from the one > > group on Mullgenealogy > > > > The 'Iona' family as follows (7 children) > > > > John 1821 > > Janet 1823 > > Neil 1826 > > Mary 1830 > > Margaret 1833 & 1835 > > Marion 1838 > > > > The 'Kilfinichen to Tobermory' family as follows (8 children) > > > > Hector 1822 > > Neil 1824 > > Flora 1827 > > Catherine & Hector 1828 twins > > Marion 1831 > > Angus abt 1833 > > Ann abt 1835 > > > > Both sets of parents Donald McGilvray/Isabella McArthur > > > > > > Michael > > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks michael jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MF Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 8:54 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Kintra Jean That Mary McDonald was nee McDougall 1789-1872 Ardtun I have a newspaper clipping on site about her and the song Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Whimp" <jiwhimp@optusnet.com.au> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Kintra > Is this the Mary Macdonald to whom we owe the tune "Bunessan" in our hymn > books? > jean whimp > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy and John > Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 7:41 AM > Cc: mull list > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Kintra > > Hi June, > > I can't begin to tell you how thrilled I am with the photos that you have > sent me. > I have never seen them before and they are just what I was after. Thank > you > so much! > They are wonderful!! > > I think you have told me before about Mary McDonald. It is a pity it is > so > hard to go back any further. > I would really love to know about Dugald's parents but don't know where to > turn for that. > > I am not sure how the book will go. I am only up to the first chapter so > there is a long way to go. > I am very excited about it though and really want to tell Mary's story. > Thank you for the good wishes and the fantastic photos! > > Many, many thanks and kind regards > > Joy > > On 21/09/2013 1:11 AM, June Ridgeway wrote: >> Hi Joy, >> >> Hope these photos help - I believe they were taken around the early >> 1900s. As you probably know, my family )McDonald) are also from Kintra >> - although they moved there from Ardchievaig in 1850. >> >> Mary's parents were married on 24/03/1835 in Creich. Her mother, Mary >> McDonald, is shown on the certiicate as comin from Tiree although >> that's about all I know of the family. >> >> Hope your book goes well - I'd love to do that but haven't got the >> patience I'm afraid. >> >> Best regards >> >> June >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message