Hi Ida, Thank you for all the great information! Yes that is my family that were mentioned in "A Dictionary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada..." Lachlan is their son who was married to Maragret Black. My ancestor was his onther son, Duncan D McLean. I don't know why the spelling changed for my side of the family. (McLean vs MacLean) I was able to find a marriage record for Angus MacLean and Euphemia MacKinnon on ScotlandsPeople. I also found the baptism for several of the children but not my ancestor. I was just in Mull recently and visisted the site of the Killunaig mill. (Where Angus once worked) I have been helped enormously by Michael and Christine. I have some research that was done by a relative, Rev. Ross Currie MacLean from Collingwood, Ontario, Canada. He was a desendent of Lachlan and Margaret Maclean. He was the one who suggested that Angus's father was Hector MacLean, mother Anne MacQuarrie. We are thinking now that it was possibly Allan MacLean and Anne MacQuarrie. Rev. R.C. talks about Angus also coming to Ontario with the his nephews, Alexander and Lachlan. They are sons of Charles MacLean who remained on Mull and a couple of his decendents are Barbra McHarg and Anne Whyte. I'm trying to track down the nephews in Ontario. Flora MacLean and Neil Arbuthnot ended up in Collingwood also. The Hector you named Rev. R.C. names as a son of Angus. (He may have been a grandson?) On his marriage record Angus and Euphemia are named as his parents. The 1881 census has to be Lachlan and Margaret. It has all the right names. Thank you for the links and information! If I find the nephews, Lachlan and Alexander, I will post what I have. Dana On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Merle and Ida King <m_iking@mcsnet.ca>wrote: > Hi Dana > > Thanks for this posting to the list. > > Just a couple of ?'s because I'm snoopy. I have no connections to your > family but the McLean's (sp) interest me. > > In Donald Whytes A Dictonary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada before > Confederation vol 1 ISBN # 0-920036-09-0 > mentions Angus McLean From Killinaig Kilfinchen Isle of Mull Argyl To > Mariposa twp Victoria Co Ont 1833 Miller Wife Euphemia McKinnon qv with him > and s Lachlan b 21 Jun 1837. > > Also a different entry the qv part for Euphemia MacKinnon 1793-16 Feb 1864 > >From Kilfinchen parish Isle of Mull ARL To Mariposa twp Victoria Co Ont > 1833 > wife of Angus McLean qv > > If they are from Killinaig Kilfinchen our vital records were lost crossing > Loch Scaridian so we are at a standstill and can only guess at who might be > the parents . > > In the 1871 census for Collingwood twp Grey Co Ontario transcribed by Bruce > & Grey Ont Genealogical society. > Your John McLean aged 45 b Scotland Presby farmer > wife Mary aged 38 (Do you know who her parents were) > son Angus 14 > Catherine 12 > Alexander 11 > Janet 8 > Euphemia 6 > Archibald 4 > Flora 1 > > neighbours William Arbuthnot age 43 and his wife Margaret aged 33 with > children (any thing you can add would be greatly appreciated). I presumue > to > be a brother of your Neil Arbuthnot. > Your Neil Arbuthnot. aged 45 and his wife Flora McLean aged 48 (are in > close > proximity to your John McLean) > they have children Jane aged 22 (who m's Neil Livingston ) Alexander 19, > Catherine 17, James 15, Flora 13, Archibald 11, Malcolm 9 Euphemia 7, and > Nancy a F aged 80 b Scotland I presume Neil's mother. > > In the Upper Canada Marriage index on-line at > uppercanadamarriages@ontariogenealogy.com > has ARBUTHNOT JANE .. EVANS DAVID .. 1844 possibly a sister to Neil & > William you can contact them for more information > this might be them > 1881 Census Place: Gwillimbury East, York North, Ontario, Canada > Source: FHL Film 1375885 NAC C-13249 Dist 137 SubDist F Div 2 Page 30 > Family 153+ > Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace > David EVANS M M 62 Irish USA > Occ: Farmer Religion: Presbyterian > Jane EVANS F M 55 Scottish Ontario > Religion: Presbyterian > Isabella EVANS F 28 Irish Ontario > Religion: Presbyterian > Mary Jane EVANS F S 24 Irish Ontario > Religion: Presbyterian > Fred W. EVANS M S 20 Irish Ontario > Religion: Presbyterian > > You mention a Hector McLean b 12 Jul 1850 in Markham Ont who dies at > Beaverton Ont Feb 10 1902 but I can't see who he belong to > > >From the 1881 census of Mariposa twp Victoria Co Ont I found this > Census Place: Mariposa, Victoria South, Ontario, Canada > Source: FHL Film 1375878 NAC C-13242 Dist 129 SubDist C Div 3 Page 16 > Family 74 > Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace > Laughlin MCLEAN M M 40 Scottish Scotland (although we have different death > dates you have Jan 4 1924 (( he'd be 93)) and I have 1905 in the Little > Britain Bible Cemetery Lot 15 Con 5 Mariposa) > Occ: Labourer Religion: C. Presbyterian > Margret MCLEAN F M 37 Scottish Scotland (his wife Margaret Black b abt 1840 > also from Mull she dies 1898 same burial location) > Religion: C. Presbyterian > Neil MCLEAN M 19 Scottish O <Ontario> > Occ: Labourer Religion: C. Presbyterian > Pheme MCLEAN F 16 Scottish O <Ontario> > Religion: C. Presbyterian > Kate MCLEAN F 14 Scottish O <Ontario> > Occ: Going To School Religion: C. Presbyterian > Laughlin MCLEAN M 12 Scottish O <Ontario> > Occ: Going To School Religion: C. Presbyterian > Angus MCLEAN M 9 Scottish O <Ontario> > Occ: Going To School Religion: C. Presbyterian > John MCLEAN M 4 Scottish O <Ontario> > Religion: C. Presbyterian > Mary MCLEAN F 2 Scottish O <Ontario> > Religion: C. Presbyterian > > Sorry I don't have a subscription to ancestry. > > I'd love to know more of this Charles and his sons Alexander & Lachlan. I > may have info on them as well. > > I hope this helps <ps I snipped out the links you added to your postings as > they are in the Archives already> > Ida > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana & Ryan" <rdkelly24@gmail.com> > To: <SCT-ISLEOFMULL@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:51 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Angus MacLean > > > > I'm looking for the father and mother of Angus MacLean. The information I > > have said that he was born 1792 Isle of Mull. He married Euphemia "Effy" > > McKinnon 23 Feb 1814 Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Isle of Mull, Scotland. > > He > > was the miller for the mill in Killunaig. He and Effy left Mull in 1833 > > with most of their children. The children are: Ann MacLean married Neil > > Patterson (1814-20 Oct 1896 Mariposa, Ontario) > > Donald MacLean christened 20 Sep 1815 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken > > Mary MacLean christened 5 May 1818 in Kilfinichen Parish, Isle of > > Mull, Argyll, Scotlan d > > Duncan D MacLean b. 15 Dec 1820 in Isle Mull, Argyll, > > Scotlan d. 5 Sep 1908 in Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota, United > > States > Flora MacLean married Neil Arbuthnot (b. 12 Jan.1823 in Isle of Mull, > Scotland.1 April 1893 in Collingwood, Grey East, Ontario-Victoria, > Canada > John MacLean married Mary Elizabeth MacLean (christened 24 Oct 1825 > Kilfinichen and Kilvicken d. 15 Feb 1917 in Collingwood, Simcoe, Ontario, > Canada > Hector MacLean christened 7 July 1827 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken d. 17 > July > 1883 in Mariposa, Victoria, Ontario, Canada > Lachlan MacLean married Margaret Black (christened 21 Jun 1831 Kilfinichen > and Kilvicken d. 4 Jun 1924 in Mariposa, Victoria, Ontario, > Canada > John MacLean christened 2 March 1830 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken > > Hector MacLean b. 12 Jul 1850 in Markham, York, Ontario, > > Canada< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840686&eid=10850451890 > > > > d. 10 Feb 1902 in Beaverton, Ontario, Ontario, > > Canad< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840686&eid=10850451891 > > > > a > He wrote many letters to family on Mull and I know 2 nephews came to > Canada > with him: Alexander and Lachlan MacLean. He said they were sons of > his brother Charles. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! Dana > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was interested to read the discussion on this topic. My McMILLAN family from Oskamull departed from Liverpool on the New Zealander in 1853 and I too have wondered how they would have travelled from Mull to Liverpool. Also, my McDONALD family from Skye was also on that ship, so they had travelled even further. Regards Libby McMillan

EliZabeth asked "I too have wondered how they would have travelled from Mull to Liverpool. Also, my McDONALD family from Skye was also on that ship, so they had travelled even further." There were regular sailings between the Clyde and the west coast ports. Originally by David Hutcheson then his son-in-law David MacBrayne. Whilst the Caledonian Steam Packet Co ran the steamers in the Clyde and, amongst others, down to England. It's the merger of these two companies which form today's CalMac. The earliest railways in Scotland and England were unconnected. Before the Caledonian Railway, the quickest journey between Glasgow and London would have been Glasgow to Liverpool by sea and then Liverpool to London by train. From March 1841 it was possible to catch the train between Glasgow and Greenock, then travel between Greenock and Liverpool by sea; (and then to London by train) Hope this helps Regards Les Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Its a puzzle isn't it! It would be really interesting to find out some answers. Oh to find a diary written by a family member! But that won't happen because I know they couldn't read or write! So back to the guessing game! You have done well tracing your family in their travels over ten years. Kind regards Joy > On 20 Nov 2013, at 9:55 pm, "Janet" <cilurnum@googlemail.com> wrote: > > I too have wondered about travel. I traced my McINNES from Cullen, Banff to Edinburgh > over 10 yrs. I have suspected it might have been on the drovers "roads" in horse and cart > and I think it depends on the time because we can find when there was a railway but it > took time for a "network" of railway to take them the length and breath of Scotland. > > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joy and John" <john.joy6@bigpond.com> > To: "mull list" <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:06 AM > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Immigration to Australia > > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> My McInnes family immigrated to Australia in late 1848 from Kintra. >> They sailed from Plymouth on 14 September aboard the Maitland and >> arrived here on the 7 January 1849. >> >> I am wondering if anyone can tell me how they would have got to Plymouth? >> There were quite a lot of Scottish people on board this ship. >> Would there have been a steamer or other sailing vessel that would have >> taken them or would they have gone overland? >> >> I am not sure how I would go about finding out this information. >> Kind regards >> Joy >> in Austalia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ian, Thank you for that. It is interesting that you have not heard of any others leaving from Plymouth. I just assumed that many did. I wonder why they went from there? Kind regards Joy > On 20 Nov 2013, at 9:45 pm, Ian Phillips <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Joy, > > In those days the seas where the motorways of today. I would imagine that > there would have been coastal boats working out of Glasgow that would have > made there way down to Plymouth. It could have involved one or more changes > of vessel but my best guess would be that they went by boat. > > Railways were in their infancy and I would think (in relative terms) quite > expensive although quicker. > > Yours are the first family that I have heard off that emigrated via > Plymouth. > > Best regards, > > Ian > > webmaster mullgenealogy.co.uk > > >> On 20 November 2013 10:06, Joy and John <john.joy6@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> My McInnes family immigrated to Australia in late 1848 from Kintra. >> They sailed from Plymouth on 14 September aboard the Maitland and >> arrived here on the 7 January 1849. >> >> I am wondering if anyone can tell me how they would have got to Plymouth? >> There were quite a lot of Scottish people on board this ship. >> Would there have been a steamer or other sailing vessel that would have >> taken them or would they have gone overland? >> >> I am not sure how I would go about finding out this information. >> Kind regards >> Joy >> in Austalia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now you put me to shame. I have a diary from Glasgow of my Mull grandfather so I'll look it up and tell you where their ship called . I do remember that they also called at Madagascar and nearly got left behind!! More on this later Jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John And Joy Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 9:42 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Immigration to Australia Its a puzzle isn't it! It would be really interesting to find out some answers. Oh to find a diary written by a family member! But that won't happen because I know they couldn't read or write! So back to the guessing game! You have done well tracing your family in their travels over ten years. Kind regards Joy > On 20 Nov 2013, at 9:55 pm, "Janet" <cilurnum@googlemail.com> wrote: > > I too have wondered about travel. I traced my McINNES from Cullen, > Banff to Edinburgh over 10 yrs. I have suspected it might have been > on the drovers "roads" in horse and cart and I think it depends on the > time because we can find when there was a railway but it took time for a "network" of railway to take them the length and breath of Scotland. > > Janet > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joy and John" <john.joy6@bigpond.com> > To: "mull list" <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:06 AM > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Immigration to Australia > > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> My McInnes family immigrated to Australia in late 1848 from Kintra. >> They sailed from Plymouth on 14 September aboard the Maitland and >> arrived here on the 7 January 1849. >> >> I am wondering if anyone can tell me how they would have got to Plymouth? >> There were quite a lot of Scottish people on board this ship. >> Would there have been a steamer or other sailing vessel that would >> have taken them or would they have gone overland? >> >> I am not sure how I would go about finding out this information. >> Kind regards >> Joy >> in Austalia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Everyone, My McInnes family immigrated to Australia in late 1848 from Kintra. They sailed from Plymouth on 14 September aboard the Maitland and arrived here on the 7 January 1849. I am wondering if anyone can tell me how they would have got to Plymouth? There were quite a lot of Scottish people on board this ship. Would there have been a steamer or other sailing vessel that would have taken them or would they have gone overland? I am not sure how I would go about finding out this information. Kind regards Joy in Austalia

Archibald McPHAIL and Flora CAMPBELL. I havent looked on the website as yet but I wondered if there's any one here with any connections to the above named. Archibald's father may be Malcolm. I cant find a marriage for them in Scotland's People. My information arose from a newspaper report of an alleged brawl in 1862 at the Inn in Salen kept by my INNES family Any information would be appreciated. Janet --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

I was lucky that nature played a part and before arriving in Mull they had a child in Edinburgh in 1833, a difference of 10 yrs from the last child of a marriage in 1810; the benefit of the availability of certificate records. The Gaelic Society of Inverness records contain a poem about seagoing which makes reference to names that may be familiar: "RATS" And do not call at Dorlinn, There are plenty there without you. Avoid Macphail of Drumbuie Since the man has newly arrived there. Spend a night with Lady Gordon But do not go near John Stewart. You will be ferried from Bunavullin Across the Sound of Mull in bondage, And let the schoolmaster count you In case any of you are left behind. If you do not go in Martin's boat Get the fair lads of the "Phoenix2 And if none of them are about the place You will swim if neccessary. And if you make it to Salen Leave David alone since he is poor. Spend a night at the Inn And do not hesitate to take everything you can get hold of. In spite of your eating and drinking there They will have plenty after you have left. Many people are adding to their wealth It was from liquor that they made it. You will reach "Greenhill" at Gruiline Would that the Country was at peace with him: And even if you stay there for some time He will not notice it very much. When you climb Mam Clachaig See that you do not become separated from one another And descend to Kinlock Sgridain And you will get everything you need there. Spend one night in Pennyghael In the house of the old man with the spectacles, And leave nothing in the house except limpets and fishbones for him. Eat all his butter and cheese And all the white-meal and fat there. Addenda: Further information on rats and their movement in satire in Morvern is to be found in: Stewart, Reverend Alexander The Laird of Carsaig at this time was a Maclean who, like Lady Gordon of Drimnin was also involved in clearing people off the land thereby incurring the Bard's wrath. End Quote I have nothing more on the foregoing. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "John And Joy" <john.joy6@bigpond.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:12 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Immigration to Australia > Its a puzzle isn't it! > It would be really interesting to find out some answers. > Oh to find a diary written by a family member! > But that won't happen because I know they couldn't read or write! > So back to the guessing game! > You have done well tracing your family in their travels over ten years. > Kind regards > Joy > >> On 20 Nov 2013, at 9:55 pm, "Janet" <cilurnum@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> I too have wondered about travel. I traced my McINNES from Cullen, Banff to Edinburgh >> over 10 yrs. I have suspected it might have been on the drovers "roads" in horse and >> cart >> and I think it depends on the time because we can find when there was a railway but it >> took time for a "network" of railway to take them the length and breath of Scotland. >> >> Janet --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi, Most emigrated from Tobermory, Calgary or Oban. Some vessels started from these ports. Some started further north and then sailed south. These vessels would have had emigrants from Coll and Tiree. Others emigrating started their sea passage from Glasgow, Liverpool and some other ports which now includes Plymouth. Ian On 20 November 2013 11:27, Jean Whimp <jiwhimp@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Now you put me to shame. I have a diary from Glasgow of my Mull > grandfather > so I'll look it up and tell you where their ship called . I do remember > that they also called at Madagascar and nearly got left behind!! More on > this later > Jean > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John And Joy > Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 9:42 PM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Immigration to Australia > > Its a puzzle isn't it! > It would be really interesting to find out some answers. > Oh to find a diary written by a family member! > But that won't happen because I know they couldn't read or write! > So back to the guessing game! > You have done well tracing your family in their travels over ten years. > Kind regards > Joy > > > On 20 Nov 2013, at 9:55 pm, "Janet" <cilurnum@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > I too have wondered about travel. I traced my McINNES from Cullen, > > Banff to Edinburgh over 10 yrs. I have suspected it might have been > > on the drovers "roads" in horse and cart and I think it depends on the > > time because we can find when there was a railway but it took time for a > "network" of railway to take them the length and breath of Scotland. > > > > Janet > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joy and John" <john.joy6@bigpond.com> > > To: "mull list" <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:06 AM > > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Immigration to Australia > > > > > >> Hi Everyone, > >> > >> My McInnes family immigrated to Australia in late 1848 from Kintra. > >> They sailed from Plymouth on 14 September aboard the Maitland and > >> arrived here on the 7 January 1849. > >> > >> I am wondering if anyone can tell me how they would have got to > Plymouth? > >> There were quite a lot of Scottish people on board this ship. > >> Would there have been a steamer or other sailing vessel that would > >> have taken them or would they have gone overland? > >> > >> I am not sure how I would go about finding out this information. > >> Kind regards > >> Joy > >> in Austalia > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > --- > > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > > http://www.avast.com > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I too have wondered about travel. I traced my McINNES from Cullen, Banff to Edinburgh over 10 yrs. I have suspected it might have been on the drovers "roads" in horse and cart and I think it depends on the time because we can find when there was a railway but it took time for a "network" of railway to take them the length and breath of Scotland. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy and John" <john.joy6@bigpond.com> To: "mull list" <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:06 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Immigration to Australia > Hi Everyone, > > My McInnes family immigrated to Australia in late 1848 from Kintra. > They sailed from Plymouth on 14 September aboard the Maitland and > arrived here on the 7 January 1849. > > I am wondering if anyone can tell me how they would have got to Plymouth? > There were quite a lot of Scottish people on board this ship. > Would there have been a steamer or other sailing vessel that would have > taken them or would they have gone overland? > > I am not sure how I would go about finding out this information. > Kind regards > Joy > in Austalia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi Joy, In those days the seas where the motorways of today. I would imagine that there would have been coastal boats working out of Glasgow that would have made there way down to Plymouth. It could have involved one or more changes of vessel but my best guess would be that they went by boat. Railways were in their infancy and I would think (in relative terms) quite expensive although quicker. Yours are the first family that I have heard off that emigrated via Plymouth. Best regards, Ian webmaster mullgenealogy.co.uk On 20 November 2013 10:06, Joy and John <john.joy6@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > My McInnes family immigrated to Australia in late 1848 from Kintra. > They sailed from Plymouth on 14 September aboard the Maitland and > arrived here on the 7 January 1849. > > I am wondering if anyone can tell me how they would have got to Plymouth? > There were quite a lot of Scottish people on board this ship. > Would there have been a steamer or other sailing vessel that would have > taken them or would they have gone overland? > > I am not sure how I would go about finding out this information. > Kind regards > Joy > in Austalia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Dana Thanks for this posting to the list. Just a couple of ?'s because I'm snoopy. I have no connections to your family but the McLean's (sp) interest me. In Donald Whytes A Dictonary of Scottish Emigrants to Canada before Confederation vol 1 ISBN # 0-920036-09-0 mentions Angus McLean From Killinaig Kilfinchen Isle of Mull Argyl To Mariposa twp Victoria Co Ont 1833 Miller Wife Euphemia McKinnon qv with him and s Lachlan b 21 Jun 1837. Also a different entry the qv part for Euphemia MacKinnon 1793-16 Feb 1864 >From Kilfinchen parish Isle of Mull ARL To Mariposa twp Victoria Co Ont 1833 wife of Angus McLean qv If they are from Killinaig Kilfinchen our vital records were lost crossing Loch Scaridian so we are at a standstill and can only guess at who might be the parents . In the 1871 census for Collingwood twp Grey Co Ontario transcribed by Bruce & Grey Ont Genealogical society. Your John McLean aged 45 b Scotland Presby farmer wife Mary aged 38 (Do you know who her parents were) son Angus 14 Catherine 12 Alexander 11 Janet 8 Euphemia 6 Archibald 4 Flora 1 neighbours William Arbuthnot age 43 and his wife Margaret aged 33 with children (any thing you can add would be greatly appreciated). I presumue to be a brother of your Neil Arbuthnot. Your Neil Arbuthnot. aged 45 and his wife Flora McLean aged 48 (are in close proximity to your John McLean) they have children Jane aged 22 (who m's Neil Livingston ) Alexander 19, Catherine 17, James 15, Flora 13, Archibald 11, Malcolm 9 Euphemia 7, and Nancy a F aged 80 b Scotland I presume Neil's mother. In the Upper Canada Marriage index on-line at uppercanadamarriages@ontariogenealogy.com has ARBUTHNOT JANE .. EVANS DAVID .. 1844 possibly a sister to Neil & William you can contact them for more information this might be them 1881 Census Place: Gwillimbury East, York North, Ontario, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375885 NAC C-13249 Dist 137 SubDist F Div 2 Page 30 Family 153+ Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace David EVANS M M 62 Irish USA Occ: Farmer Religion: Presbyterian Jane EVANS F M 55 Scottish Ontario Religion: Presbyterian Isabella EVANS F 28 Irish Ontario Religion: Presbyterian Mary Jane EVANS F S 24 Irish Ontario Religion: Presbyterian Fred W. EVANS M S 20 Irish Ontario Religion: Presbyterian You mention a Hector McLean b 12 Jul 1850 in Markham Ont who dies at Beaverton Ont Feb 10 1902 but I can't see who he belong to >From the 1881 census of Mariposa twp Victoria Co Ont I found this Census Place: Mariposa, Victoria South, Ontario, Canada Source: FHL Film 1375878 NAC C-13242 Dist 129 SubDist C Div 3 Page 16 Family 74 Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace Laughlin MCLEAN M M 40 Scottish Scotland (although we have different death dates you have Jan 4 1924 (( he'd be 93)) and I have 1905 in the Little Britain Bible Cemetery Lot 15 Con 5 Mariposa) Occ: Labourer Religion: C. Presbyterian Margret MCLEAN F M 37 Scottish Scotland (his wife Margaret Black b abt 1840 also from Mull she dies 1898 same burial location) Religion: C. Presbyterian Neil MCLEAN M 19 Scottish O <Ontario> Occ: Labourer Religion: C. Presbyterian Pheme MCLEAN F 16 Scottish O <Ontario> Religion: C. Presbyterian Kate MCLEAN F 14 Scottish O <Ontario> Occ: Going To School Religion: C. Presbyterian Laughlin MCLEAN M 12 Scottish O <Ontario> Occ: Going To School Religion: C. Presbyterian Angus MCLEAN M 9 Scottish O <Ontario> Occ: Going To School Religion: C. Presbyterian John MCLEAN M 4 Scottish O <Ontario> Religion: C. Presbyterian Mary MCLEAN F 2 Scottish O <Ontario> Religion: C. Presbyterian Sorry I don't have a subscription to ancestry. I'd love to know more of this Charles and his sons Alexander & Lachlan. I may have info on them as well. I hope this helps <ps I snipped out the links you added to your postings as they are in the Archives already> Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana & Ryan" <rdkelly24@gmail.com> To: <SCT-ISLEOFMULL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:51 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Angus MacLean > I'm looking for the father and mother of Angus MacLean. The information I > have said that he was born 1792 Isle of Mull. He married Euphemia "Effy" > McKinnon 23 Feb 1814 Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Isle of Mull, Scotland. > He > was the miller for the mill in Killunaig. He and Effy left Mull in 1833 > with most of their children. The children are: Ann MacLean married Neil > Patterson (1814-20 Oct 1896 Mariposa, Ontario) > Donald MacLean christened 20 Sep 1815 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken > Mary MacLean christened 5 May 1818 in Kilfinichen Parish, Isle of > Mull, Argyll, Scotlan d > Duncan D MacLean b. 15 Dec 1820 in Isle Mull, Argyll, > Scotlan d. 5 Sep 1908 in Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota, United > States Flora MacLean married Neil Arbuthnot (b. 12 Jan.1823 in Isle of Mull, Scotland.1 April 1893 in Collingwood, Grey East, Ontario-Victoria, Canada John MacLean married Mary Elizabeth MacLean (christened 24 Oct 1825 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken d. 15 Feb 1917 in Collingwood, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada Hector MacLean christened 7 July 1827 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken d. 17 July 1883 in Mariposa, Victoria, Ontario, Canada Lachlan MacLean married Margaret Black (christened 21 Jun 1831 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken d. 4 Jun 1924 in Mariposa, Victoria, Ontario, Canada John MacLean christened 2 March 1830 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken Hector MacLean b. 12 Jul 1850 in Markham, York, Ontario, > Canada<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840686&eid=10850451890> > d. 10 Feb 1902 in Beaverton, Ontario, Ontario, > Canad<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840686&eid=10850451891> > a He wrote many letters to family on Mull and I know 2 nephews came to Canada with him: Alexander and Lachlan MacLean. He said they were sons of his brother Charles. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! Dana

Hi Dana, Regret that I cannot help you any further with your search. I have a question for you. You give Hectors dob as 12 Jul 1850. Was he born on a second marriage as I find it hard to believe that Euphemia would have a child at such an elderly age. Best regards, Ian webmaster mullgenealogy.co.uk On 15 November 2013 02:51, Dana & Ryan <rdkelly24@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm looking for the father and mother of Angus MacLean. The information I > have said that he was born 1792 Isle of Mull. He married Euphemia "Effy" > McKinnon 23 Feb 1814 Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Isle of Mull, Scotland. He > was the miller for the mill in Killunaig. He and Effy left Mull in 1833 > with most of their children. The children are: Ann MacLean married Neil > Patterson (1814-20 Oct 1896 Mariposa, Ontario) > Donald MacLean christened 20 Sep 1815 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken > Mary MacLean christened 5 May 1818 in Kilfinichen Parish, Isle of > Mull, Argyll, Scotlan< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840681&eid=10850451872 > > > d > Duncan D MacLean b. 15 Dec 1820 in Isle Mull, Argyll, > Scotlan< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=738087424&eid=10833269601 > >d > d. 5 Sep 1908 in Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota, United > State< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=738087424&eid=10833269602 > > > s > Flora MacLean married Neil Arbuthnot (b. 12 Jan.1823 in Isle of > Mull, Scotlan< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840677&eid=10850451854 > >d > d.1 April 1893 in Collingwood, Grey East, Ontario-Victoria, > Canad< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840677&eid=12483001804 > > > a) > John MacLean married Mary Elizabeth MacLean (christened 24 Oct > 1825 Kilfinichen > and Kilvicken d. 15 Feb 1917 in Collingwood, Simcoe, Ontario, > Canad< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=1383763785&eid=13678845648 > > > a) > Hector MacLean christened 7 July 1827 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken > d. 17 > July 1883 in Mariposa, Victoria, Ontario, > Canad< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=1383768801&eid=142458406460 > > > a > Lachlan MacLean married Margaret Black (christened 21 Jun > 1831 Kilfinichen > and Kilvicken d. 4 Jun 1924 in Mariposa, Victoria, Ontario, > Canad< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840684&eid=10850451882 > > > a) > John MacLean christened 2 March 1830 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken > Hector MacLean b. 12 Jul 1850 in Markham, York, Ontario, > Canada< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840686&eid=10850451890 > > > d. 10 Feb 1902 in Beaverton, Ontario, Ontario, > Canad< > http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840686&eid=10850451891 > > > a > He wrote many letters to family on Mull and I know 2 nephews came to > Canada with him: Alexander and Lachlan MacLean. He said they were sons of > his brother Charles. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! Dana > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm looking for the father and mother of Angus MacLean. The information I have said that he was born 1792 Isle of Mull. He married Euphemia "Effy" McKinnon 23 Feb 1814 Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon, Isle of Mull, Scotland. He was the miller for the mill in Killunaig. He and Effy left Mull in 1833 with most of their children. The children are: Ann MacLean married Neil Patterson (1814-20 Oct 1896 Mariposa, Ontario) Donald MacLean christened 20 Sep 1815 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken Mary MacLean christened 5 May 1818 in Kilfinichen Parish, Isle of Mull, Argyll, Scotlan<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840681&eid=10850451872> d Duncan D MacLean b. 15 Dec 1820 in Isle Mull, Argyll, Scotlan<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=738087424&eid=10833269601>d d. 5 Sep 1908 in Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota, United State<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=738087424&eid=10833269602> s Flora MacLean married Neil Arbuthnot (b. 12 Jan.1823 in Isle of Mull, Scotlan<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840677&eid=10850451854>d d.1 April 1893 in Collingwood, Grey East, Ontario-Victoria, Canad<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840677&eid=12483001804> a) John MacLean married Mary Elizabeth MacLean (christened 24 Oct 1825 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken d. 15 Feb 1917 in Collingwood, Simcoe, Ontario, Canad<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=1383763785&eid=13678845648> a) Hector MacLean christened 7 July 1827 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken d. 17 July 1883 in Mariposa, Victoria, Ontario, Canad<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=1383768801&eid=142458406460> a Lachlan MacLean married Margaret Black (christened 21 Jun 1831 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken d. 4 Jun 1924 in Mariposa, Victoria, Ontario, Canad<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840684&eid=10850451882> a) John MacLean christened 2 March 1830 Kilfinichen and Kilvicken Hector MacLean b. 12 Jul 1850 in Markham, York, Ontario, Canada<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840686&eid=10850451890> d. 10 Feb 1902 in Beaverton, Ontario, Ontario, Canad<http://places.ancestry.com/index.aspx?tid=18900714&pid=741840686&eid=10850451891> a He wrote many letters to family on Mull and I know 2 nephews came to Canada with him: Alexander and Lachlan MacLean. He said they were sons of his brother Charles. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks! Dana

Hi Malcolm Thank you for sending this link and the seperate personal e-mail. I'm sure someone will be checking it out. It's muchly appreciated Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: Malcolm and Pam McCormick To: m_iking@mcsnet.ca Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:33 AM Subject: Mull Stray Hi Ida Some New Zealand cemetery records are available online as the various branches of the NZ Society of Genealogists have been recording the headstones in their local cemeteries & these records are available through the local District council websites. www.localgovt.co.nz Resource library then search Cemetery Records. NZ archives of births, deaths & marriages are available on www.dia.govt.nz . I haven't been able to find a death for Ann McCormick recorded for the date shown on the headstone but will keep looking. The date of death recorded on the headstone for Alex is I year prior to that recorded on the death certificate. I have forwarded what I have researched so far on a separate email Malcolm ME and PM McCormick

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Hi Malcolm and Pam Thank you for the Mull strays posting. I like Linda M Towne at manateemum@gmail.com agree on who the family was on Mull. Might I ask for a tiny favour from you. If the NZ cemetery records are on-line or are easlily accessable to you. Ann's mother Margaret McDonald b abt 1801 who's husband was Donald may also be in the NZ cemetery records as well. She's in 1851 at Bra Chreich in son Alexanders h/h so her husband Donald probably died before the 1851 census. Thanks Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm and Pam McCormick" <mccormick.family@actrix.co.nz> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 7:16 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Mull stray > Came across this while browsing NZ cemetery records > > > > Taruheru Cemetery, Gisborne District Council > > In loving memory of Mother, Ann McCormick, died 2nd Jan 1922, also our > brother Alex McCormick, died 8th Jan 1920, late of Mull Scotland. > > > > The burial record states Alex's age as 48 > > > > Malcolm > > > > ME and PM McCormick > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If I read it correctly I suppose the changes to the Family Search site meant that it wouldnt be long before there was a charge to access their collections. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Horn" <Leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> To: "Rootsweb [Mull List]" <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com>; "Rootsweb [Argyll List]" <sct-argyll-L@rootsweb.com>; "Rootsweb [Argyll List]" <sct-argyll-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Rootsweb Admin [Argyll List]" <SCT-argyll-admin@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] BrightSolid aka DC Thomson Family History > Hi all > > Thought you might be interested to read this Press Release from BrightSolid (now DC > Thomson Family History) who run the ScotlandsPeople web-site on behalf of the Scottish > Government. > > Regards > Les > ============================= > DC Thomson Family History and FamilySearch.org to make billions of records available for > people to search > Posted 17 October 2013 > By DC Thomson Family History and Family Search press release > > More than 13 million records launched today on findmypast.com > > LONDON, England and SALT LAKE CITY, Utah -- Annelies van den Belt, the new CEO of DC > Thomson Family History, the British-based leader in online family history and owner of > findmypast and Genes Reunited, has announced a major new partnership with US-based > FamilySearch.org that will give family history enthusiasts access to billions of records > online and new technology to collaboratively research their family roots. > > DC Thomson Family History, formerly known as brightsolid online publishing, is > collaborating with FamilySearch, which has the largest collections of genealogical and > historical records in the world, to deliver a wide range of projects including digital > preservation, records search, technological development and the means to allow family > historians to share their discoveries. > > More than 13 million records from FamilySearch.org launched today on findmypast, > including major collections of births, marriages and deaths covering America, Australia, > and Ireland. Around 600 additional collections, containing millions of records, will > follow. > > The two organisations have a long history of working together on historical projects, > including indexing 132 million records of the 1940 US census and two hundred years of > British Army Service Records (Chelsea Pensioners) in a joint digitisation project with > The National Archives. > > Van den Belt said: "This is fantastic news for our customers all over the world. As a > leader in online family history we will be able to offer access to a much wider variety > of records dating back hundreds of years and the first batch are ready to search on > findmypast. The convenience of searching many treasures from FamilySearch.org along with > our own extensive collections will provide rich new insights for our customers. > > "This partnership with FamilySearch will accelerate the momentum of our next phase of > global growth into new non-English-speaking markets and give more people more access to > more records to uncover their family history. This really cements our position as a > market leader." > > "We are excited to work with DC Thompson Family History on a vision we both share," said > Dennis Brimhall, CEO of FamilySearch. "Expanding online access to historical records > through this type of collaboration can help millions more people discover and share > their family's history." > > DC Thomson Family History is the British-based leader in online family history, which > operates major online sites including findmypast, Genes Reunited and the British > Newspaper Archive. It launched in America last year with its findmypast brand. > > DC Thomson Family History has a strong record of partnerships with non-profit and public > sector organisations such as the British Library and The National Archives among many > other major archives and organisations around the world. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hi all Thought you might be interested to read this Press Release from BrightSolid (now DC Thomson Family History) who run the ScotlandsPeople web-site on behalf of the Scottish Government. Regards Les ============================= DC Thomson Family History and FamilySearch.org to make billions of records available for people to search Posted 17 October 2013 By DC Thomson Family History and Family Search press release More than 13 million records launched today on findmypast.com LONDON, England and SALT LAKE CITY, Utah -- Annelies van den Belt, the new CEO of DC Thomson Family History, the British-based leader in online family history and owner of findmypast and Genes Reunited, has announced a major new partnership with US-based FamilySearch.org that will give family history enthusiasts access to billions of records online and new technology to collaboratively research their family roots. DC Thomson Family History, formerly known as brightsolid online publishing, is collaborating with FamilySearch, which has the largest collections of genealogical and historical records in the world, to deliver a wide range of projects including digital preservation, records search, technological development and the means to allow family historians to share their discoveries. More than 13 million records from FamilySearch.org launched today on findmypast, including major collections of births, marriages and deaths covering America, Australia, and Ireland. Around 600 additional collections, containing millions of records, will follow. The two organisations have a long history of working together on historical projects, including indexing 132 million records of the 1940 US census and two hundred years of British Army Service Records (Chelsea Pensioners) in a joint digitisation project with The National Archives. Van den Belt said: "This is fantastic news for our customers all over the world. As a leader in online family history we will be able to offer access to a much wider variety of records dating back hundreds of years and the first batch are ready to search on findmypast. The convenience of searching many treasures from FamilySearch.org along with our own extensive collections will provide rich new insights for our customers. "This partnership with FamilySearch will accelerate the momentum of our next phase of global growth into new non-English-speaking markets and give more people more access to more records to uncover their family history. This really cements our position as a market leader." "We are excited to work with DC Thompson Family History on a vision we both share," said Dennis Brimhall, CEO of FamilySearch. "Expanding online access to historical records through this type of collaboration can help millions more people discover and share their family's history." DC Thomson Family History is the British-based leader in online family history, which operates major online sites including findmypast, Genes Reunited and the British Newspaper Archive. It launched in America last year with its findmypast brand. DC Thomson Family History has a strong record of partnerships with non-profit and public sector organisations such as the British Library and The National Archives among many other major archives and organisations around the world.