Have just finished reading the will of Lt.-Col. (it is signed Alexander MacLean, Late Lt. Col. 3d W. I . Regt), and hoping that someone can help me understand the last paragraph. It reads: "In accordance to the wishes of my mother the remains of her father John Lorne Maclean to be exhumed from Knock in Mull and interred in Rolic Oran Island of Iona in the grave of his father Alean MacCharlich, Alan Maclean and his ancestor (Ian Larnach Mor) the great John Lorne Maclean is desire being undiscovered till after his funeral which last must be done before this is brought into being". Interment - could this be Reilig Odhrain Burial Ground which is south of the Abbey on Iona? Or possibly Saint Orans Chapel Cemetery on Iona? Does anyone know if there is a transcription for either or both of these cemeteries? His mother - she being Mary Maclean of Grulin/Gruline - her father's name would be John Lorne Maclean, who was a son of Alan Maclean? - and I really can't figure out "Ian Larnach Mor". Any help greatly appreciated! Thanks, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Lachie Macquarie Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:08 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Duncan Maclean, of Uisken LTC, should have worked it out. In the UK it would be Lt Col. On 17 January 2014 22:38, Jean Whimp <jiwhimp@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > I also have John as 4th of Gruline and heir in 1799 but I have no record > of > where this came from so presume one of the 3 maclean books which I'll now > check. I have no record of anything further on this line. Sorry re my > poor documentation. Jean > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > twbennion@nc.rr.com > Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2014 8:29 AM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Duncan Maclean, of Uisken > > Thanks Ian and Lachie for your responses! > I have Mary's father as John 4th of Gruline too - but I wanted to make > sure > that John, 4th of Gruline was a son Hector MacLean, of Torren at least > that > was the way I had it (and still do for now), but in reading through Jo's > book MacLeans A Biographical Dictionary, it states that no known wife or > children for this John, 4th of Gruline. Just wanting to double check > before > I sent anything to you (Ian) and ask you to load to the web site. > > After posting my message I found another reference - From: The United > Service Journal and Naval and Military Magazine, 1840, Part III, October > 1840, p. 286: Promotions and Appointments - War Office, Sept. 1. > 86th Regiment of Foot. - Lieut. James M'Intyre to be Capt. without purch., > vice Maclean, promoted to 3rd West India Regiment.. > 3rd West India Regiment. - To be Lieut.-Col. - Brev. Major Alexander > Maclean, from 86th Foot. > > So it would appear that both of these references are to Alexander Maclean > who later died at Millport. > > Yes, Lachie - LTC means Lieutenant-Colonel, and I see that he did become a > Colonel. Thanks for the offer of a copy of the list, but I do have a copy. > Jean Whimp sent me one some years ago. > > The reading of this trail is absolutely fascinating! > > Thanks again, > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Phillips > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:27 PM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Duncan Maclean, of Uisken > > Hi Linda, > > Don't know if it helps but mullgenealogy has Mary's father John as 4th of > Gruline. The MacLean.org has the same. > > Ian > > > On 17 January 2014 17:03, Lachie Macquarie <lachiedamn@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Linda, what do you mean by LTC, is that Lieutenant? He did end up in > > the 86th as a Colonel but he could have started his career in any > > number of regiments. He would have been in the 86th at the same time > > as my GGGrandfather, did he get a commission through Governor Macquarie? > > Macquarie, when promoted, was assigned to the Perthshire Regiment, > > 73rd and NSW. > > > > I have the a copy of the Mull Officers and men, if you want a copy, > > let me know. > > > > > > > > On 17 January 2014 15:40, <twbennion@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > Recently came across the lunacy hearing for LTC Alexander MacLean > > > who > > died > > > at Millport, in 1859 – and left 20,000 pounds for the education of > > Maclean > > > males. (Jean Whimp – I will be sending you a copy in a few days) > > > Part of the case involves testimony given by his sister, Mary > > > (Marion) Maclean, wife of Alexander Macdonald, and of Janet (Jessie) > > > Maclean, wife of James Morrison. > > > > > > It is my understanding that this LTC Alexander Maclean was a son of > > Duncan > > > Maclean of Uisken and Mary, daughter of John Maclean of Gruline. My > > > question is – which John Maclean of Gruline? > > > > > > One thing that is confusing me comes from Clan Gillean, p. 273 on > > > the Macleans of Uisken, which reads: “We find in 1656 Duncan > > > Maclean, son of Patrick, son of John, described as servant to > > > Murdoch Maclean of > > Lochbuie. > > > This Duncan was in all probability the father of Angus Maclean of > > Assapol. > > > Angus married Elizabeth, daughter of Duncan Campbell of > > > Dunstaffnage, and had four children by her, Duncan, Marion, > > > Catherine, and Mary. > > > Duncan lived at Uisken in Mull. He married Mary, daughter of John > > > Maclean of Grulin, by whom he had four sons, Alexander, John, > > > Archibald, and Duncan. Duncan (husband of Mary) died in 1770. > > > Alexander, the eldest of his sons, was lieutenant-colonel of the 3d > > > West India regiment. According to his own account, he was of the > > > race of the three Duncans and belonged to the family of Lochbuie. He > > > left the sum of > > > 20,000 pounds for the support and education of boys of the name > > > Maclean.” > > > > > > If Duncan Maclean, of Uisken who married Mary Maclean of Grulin died > > > in 1770, how could he be the father of the LTC Alexander Maclean who > > > left > > the > > > 20,000 pounds as he was not born until 1777? Also, I thought the LTC > > > Alexander MacLean, who left the 20,000 pounds, was in the 86th > Regiment? > > > > > > Would really appreciate some feedback on who the parents were of the > > Mary, > > > daughter of John Maclean of Gruline, that married Duncan Maclean, of > > > Uisken. And to really make it clear, who were the parents of LTC > > Alexander > > > Maclean (1777-1859) who left the money for the education of Maclean > > males? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Linda Bennion > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Sláinte, > > > > Lachaidh > > *Tha mo bhàta-foluaimein loma-làn easgannan?* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Sláinte, Lachaidh *Tha mo bhàta-foluaimein loma-làn easgannan?* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LTC, should have worked it out. In the UK it would be Lt Col. On 17 January 2014 22:38, Jean Whimp <jiwhimp@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > I also have John as 4th of Gruline and heir in 1799 but I have no record of > where this came from so presume one of the 3 maclean books which I'll now > check. I have no record of anything further on this line. Sorry re my > poor documentation. Jean > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > twbennion@nc.rr.com > Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2014 8:29 AM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Duncan Maclean, of Uisken > > Thanks Ian and Lachie for your responses! > I have Mary's father as John 4th of Gruline too - but I wanted to make sure > that John, 4th of Gruline was a son Hector MacLean, of Torren at least that > was the way I had it (and still do for now), but in reading through Jo's > book MacLeans A Biographical Dictionary, it states that no known wife or > children for this John, 4th of Gruline. Just wanting to double check before > I sent anything to you (Ian) and ask you to load to the web site. > > After posting my message I found another reference - From: The United > Service Journal and Naval and Military Magazine, 1840, Part III, October > 1840, p. 286: Promotions and Appointments - War Office, Sept. 1. > 86th Regiment of Foot. - Lieut. James M'Intyre to be Capt. without purch., > vice Maclean, promoted to 3rd West India Regiment.. > 3rd West India Regiment. - To be Lieut.-Col. - Brev. Major Alexander > Maclean, from 86th Foot. > > So it would appear that both of these references are to Alexander Maclean > who later died at Millport. > > Yes, Lachie - LTC means Lieutenant-Colonel, and I see that he did become a > Colonel. Thanks for the offer of a copy of the list, but I do have a copy. > Jean Whimp sent me one some years ago. > > The reading of this trail is absolutely fascinating! > > Thanks again, > Linda > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Phillips > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:27 PM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Duncan Maclean, of Uisken > > Hi Linda, > > Don't know if it helps but mullgenealogy has Mary's father John as 4th of > Gruline. The MacLean.org has the same. > > Ian > > > On 17 January 2014 17:03, Lachie Macquarie <lachiedamn@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Linda, what do you mean by LTC, is that Lieutenant? He did end up in > > the 86th as a Colonel but he could have started his career in any > > number of regiments. He would have been in the 86th at the same time > > as my GGGrandfather, did he get a commission through Governor Macquarie? > > Macquarie, when promoted, was assigned to the Perthshire Regiment, > > 73rd and NSW. > > > > I have the a copy of the Mull Officers and men, if you want a copy, > > let me know. > > > > > > > > On 17 January 2014 15:40, <twbennion@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > Recently came across the lunacy hearing for LTC Alexander MacLean > > > who > > died > > > at Millport, in 1859 – and left 20,000 pounds for the education of > > Maclean > > > males. (Jean Whimp – I will be sending you a copy in a few days) > > > Part of the case involves testimony given by his sister, Mary > > > (Marion) Maclean, wife of Alexander Macdonald, and of Janet (Jessie) > > > Maclean, wife of James Morrison. > > > > > > It is my understanding that this LTC Alexander Maclean was a son of > > Duncan > > > Maclean of Uisken and Mary, daughter of John Maclean of Gruline. My > > > question is – which John Maclean of Gruline? > > > > > > One thing that is confusing me comes from Clan Gillean, p. 273 on > > > the Macleans of Uisken, which reads: “We find in 1656 Duncan > > > Maclean, son of Patrick, son of John, described as servant to > > > Murdoch Maclean of > > Lochbuie. > > > This Duncan was in all probability the father of Angus Maclean of > > Assapol. > > > Angus married Elizabeth, daughter of Duncan Campbell of > > > Dunstaffnage, and had four children by her, Duncan, Marion, > > > Catherine, and Mary. > > > Duncan lived at Uisken in Mull. He married Mary, daughter of John > > > Maclean of Grulin, by whom he had four sons, Alexander, John, > > > Archibald, and Duncan. Duncan (husband of Mary) died in 1770. > > > Alexander, the eldest of his sons, was lieutenant-colonel of the 3d > > > West India regiment. According to his own account, he was of the > > > race of the three Duncans and belonged to the family of Lochbuie. He > > > left the sum of > > > 20,000 pounds for the support and education of boys of the name > > > Maclean.” > > > > > > If Duncan Maclean, of Uisken who married Mary Maclean of Grulin died > > > in 1770, how could he be the father of the LTC Alexander Maclean who > > > left > > the > > > 20,000 pounds as he was not born until 1777? Also, I thought the LTC > > > Alexander MacLean, who left the 20,000 pounds, was in the 86th > Regiment? > > > > > > Would really appreciate some feedback on who the parents were of the > > Mary, > > > daughter of John Maclean of Gruline, that married Duncan Maclean, of > > > Uisken. And to really make it clear, who were the parents of LTC > > Alexander > > > Maclean (1777-1859) who left the money for the education of Maclean > > males? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Linda Bennion > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Sláinte, > > > > Lachaidh > > *Tha mo bhàta-foluaimein loma-làn easgannan?* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Sláinte, Lachaidh *Tha mo bhàta-foluaimein loma-làn easgannan?*

I also have John as 4th of Gruline and heir in 1799 but I have no record of where this came from so presume one of the 3 maclean books which I'll now check. I have no record of anything further on this line. Sorry re my poor documentation. Jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of twbennion@nc.rr.com Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2014 8:29 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Duncan Maclean, of Uisken Thanks Ian and Lachie for your responses! I have Mary's father as John 4th of Gruline too - but I wanted to make sure that John, 4th of Gruline was a son Hector MacLean, of Torren at least that was the way I had it (and still do for now), but in reading through Jo's book MacLeans A Biographical Dictionary, it states that no known wife or children for this John, 4th of Gruline. Just wanting to double check before I sent anything to you (Ian) and ask you to load to the web site. After posting my message I found another reference - From: The United Service Journal and Naval and Military Magazine, 1840, Part III, October 1840, p. 286: Promotions and Appointments - War Office, Sept. 1. 86th Regiment of Foot. - Lieut. James M'Intyre to be Capt. without purch., vice Maclean, promoted to 3rd West India Regiment.. 3rd West India Regiment. - To be Lieut.-Col. - Brev. Major Alexander Maclean, from 86th Foot. So it would appear that both of these references are to Alexander Maclean who later died at Millport. Yes, Lachie - LTC means Lieutenant-Colonel, and I see that he did become a Colonel. Thanks for the offer of a copy of the list, but I do have a copy. Jean Whimp sent me one some years ago. The reading of this trail is absolutely fascinating! Thanks again, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Ian Phillips Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:27 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Duncan Maclean, of Uisken Hi Linda, Don't know if it helps but mullgenealogy has Mary's father John as 4th of Gruline. The MacLean.org has the same. Ian On 17 January 2014 17:03, Lachie Macquarie <lachiedamn@gmail.com> wrote: > Linda, what do you mean by LTC, is that Lieutenant? He did end up in > the 86th as a Colonel but he could have started his career in any > number of regiments. He would have been in the 86th at the same time > as my GGGrandfather, did he get a commission through Governor Macquarie? > Macquarie, when promoted, was assigned to the Perthshire Regiment, > 73rd and NSW. > > I have the a copy of the Mull Officers and men, if you want a copy, > let me know. > > > > On 17 January 2014 15:40, <twbennion@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > > Recently came across the lunacy hearing for LTC Alexander MacLean > > who > died > > at Millport, in 1859 – and left 20,000 pounds for the education of > Maclean > > males. (Jean Whimp – I will be sending you a copy in a few days) > > Part of the case involves testimony given by his sister, Mary > > (Marion) Maclean, wife of Alexander Macdonald, and of Janet (Jessie) > > Maclean, wife of James Morrison. > > > > It is my understanding that this LTC Alexander Maclean was a son of > Duncan > > Maclean of Uisken and Mary, daughter of John Maclean of Gruline. My > > question is – which John Maclean of Gruline? > > > > One thing that is confusing me comes from Clan Gillean, p. 273 on > > the Macleans of Uisken, which reads: “We find in 1656 Duncan > > Maclean, son of Patrick, son of John, described as servant to > > Murdoch Maclean of > Lochbuie. > > This Duncan was in all probability the father of Angus Maclean of > Assapol. > > Angus married Elizabeth, daughter of Duncan Campbell of > > Dunstaffnage, and had four children by her, Duncan, Marion, > > Catherine, and Mary. > > Duncan lived at Uisken in Mull. He married Mary, daughter of John > > Maclean of Grulin, by whom he had four sons, Alexander, John, > > Archibald, and Duncan. Duncan (husband of Mary) died in 1770. > > Alexander, the eldest of his sons, was lieutenant-colonel of the 3d > > West India regiment. According to his own account, he was of the > > race of the three Duncans and belonged to the family of Lochbuie. He > > left the sum of > > 20,000 pounds for the support and education of boys of the name > > Maclean.” > > > > If Duncan Maclean, of Uisken who married Mary Maclean of Grulin died > > in 1770, how could he be the father of the LTC Alexander Maclean who > > left > the > > 20,000 pounds as he was not born until 1777? Also, I thought the LTC > > Alexander MacLean, who left the 20,000 pounds, was in the 86th Regiment? > > > > Would really appreciate some feedback on who the parents were of the > Mary, > > daughter of John Maclean of Gruline, that married Duncan Maclean, of > > Uisken. And to really make it clear, who were the parents of LTC > Alexander > > Maclean (1777-1859) who left the money for the education of Maclean > males? > > > > Regards, > > Linda Bennion > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > > > > Sláinte, > > Lachaidh > *Tha mo bhàta-foluaimein loma-làn easgannan?* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Linda, Don't know if it helps but mullgenealogy has Mary's father John as 4th of Gruline. The MacLean.org has the same. Ian On 17 January 2014 17:03, Lachie Macquarie <lachiedamn@gmail.com> wrote: > Linda, what do you mean by LTC, is that Lieutenant? He did end up in the > 86th as a Colonel but he could have started his career in any number of > regiments. He would have been in the 86th at the same time as my > GGGrandfather, did he get a commission through Governor Macquarie? > Macquarie, when promoted, was assigned to the Perthshire Regiment, 73rd and > NSW. > > I have the a copy of the Mull Officers and men, if you want a copy, let me > know. > > > > On 17 January 2014 15:40, <twbennion@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > > Recently came across the lunacy hearing for LTC Alexander MacLean who > died > > at Millport, in 1859 – and left 20,000 pounds for the education of > Maclean > > males. (Jean Whimp – I will be sending you a copy in a few days) > > Part of the case involves testimony given by his sister, Mary (Marion) > > Maclean, wife of Alexander Macdonald, and of Janet (Jessie) Maclean, wife > > of James Morrison. > > > > It is my understanding that this LTC Alexander Maclean was a son of > Duncan > > Maclean of Uisken and Mary, daughter of John Maclean of Gruline. My > > question is – which John Maclean of Gruline? > > > > One thing that is confusing me comes from Clan Gillean, p. 273 on the > > Macleans of Uisken, which reads: “We find in 1656 Duncan Maclean, son of > > Patrick, son of John, described as servant to Murdoch Maclean of > Lochbuie. > > This Duncan was in all probability the father of Angus Maclean of > Assapol. > > Angus married Elizabeth, daughter of Duncan Campbell of Dunstaffnage, and > > had four children by her, Duncan, Marion, Catherine, and Mary. > > Duncan lived at Uisken in Mull. He married Mary, daughter of John Maclean > > of Grulin, by whom he had four sons, Alexander, John, Archibald, and > > Duncan. Duncan (husband of Mary) died in 1770. > > Alexander, the eldest of his sons, was lieutenant-colonel of the 3d West > > India regiment. According to his own account, he was of the race of the > > three Duncans and belonged to the family of Lochbuie. He left the sum of > > 20,000 pounds for the support and education of boys of the name Maclean.” > > > > If Duncan Maclean, of Uisken who married Mary Maclean of Grulin died in > > 1770, how could he be the father of the LTC Alexander Maclean who left > the > > 20,000 pounds as he was not born until 1777? Also, I thought the LTC > > Alexander MacLean, who left the 20,000 pounds, was in the 86th Regiment? > > > > Would really appreciate some feedback on who the parents were of the > Mary, > > daughter of John Maclean of Gruline, that married Duncan Maclean, of > > Uisken. And to really make it clear, who were the parents of LTC > Alexander > > Maclean (1777-1859) who left the money for the education of Maclean > males? > > > > Regards, > > Linda Bennion > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > > > > Sláinte, > > Lachaidh > *Tha mo bhàta-foluaimein loma-làn easgannan?* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda, what do you mean by LTC, is that Lieutenant? He did end up in the 86th as a Colonel but he could have started his career in any number of regiments. He would have been in the 86th at the same time as my GGGrandfather, did he get a commission through Governor Macquarie? Macquarie, when promoted, was assigned to the Perthshire Regiment, 73rd and NSW. I have the a copy of the Mull Officers and men, if you want a copy, let me know. On 17 January 2014 15:40, <twbennion@nc.rr.com> wrote: > Recently came across the lunacy hearing for LTC Alexander MacLean who died > at Millport, in 1859 – and left 20,000 pounds for the education of Maclean > males. (Jean Whimp – I will be sending you a copy in a few days) > Part of the case involves testimony given by his sister, Mary (Marion) > Maclean, wife of Alexander Macdonald, and of Janet (Jessie) Maclean, wife > of James Morrison. > > It is my understanding that this LTC Alexander Maclean was a son of Duncan > Maclean of Uisken and Mary, daughter of John Maclean of Gruline. My > question is – which John Maclean of Gruline? > > One thing that is confusing me comes from Clan Gillean, p. 273 on the > Macleans of Uisken, which reads: “We find in 1656 Duncan Maclean, son of > Patrick, son of John, described as servant to Murdoch Maclean of Lochbuie. > This Duncan was in all probability the father of Angus Maclean of Assapol. > Angus married Elizabeth, daughter of Duncan Campbell of Dunstaffnage, and > had four children by her, Duncan, Marion, Catherine, and Mary. > Duncan lived at Uisken in Mull. He married Mary, daughter of John Maclean > of Grulin, by whom he had four sons, Alexander, John, Archibald, and > Duncan. Duncan (husband of Mary) died in 1770. > Alexander, the eldest of his sons, was lieutenant-colonel of the 3d West > India regiment. According to his own account, he was of the race of the > three Duncans and belonged to the family of Lochbuie. He left the sum of > 20,000 pounds for the support and education of boys of the name Maclean.” > > If Duncan Maclean, of Uisken who married Mary Maclean of Grulin died in > 1770, how could he be the father of the LTC Alexander Maclean who left the > 20,000 pounds as he was not born until 1777? Also, I thought the LTC > Alexander MacLean, who left the 20,000 pounds, was in the 86th Regiment? > > Would really appreciate some feedback on who the parents were of the Mary, > daughter of John Maclean of Gruline, that married Duncan Maclean, of > Uisken. And to really make it clear, who were the parents of LTC Alexander > Maclean (1777-1859) who left the money for the education of Maclean males? > > Regards, > Linda Bennion > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Sláinte, Lachaidh *Tha mo bhàta-foluaimein loma-làn easgannan?*

Thanks Ian and Lachie for your responses! I have Mary's father as John 4th of Gruline too - but I wanted to make sure that John, 4th of Gruline was a son Hector MacLean, of Torren at least that was the way I had it (and still do for now), but in reading through Jo's book MacLeans A Biographical Dictionary, it states that no known wife or children for this John, 4th of Gruline. Just wanting to double check before I sent anything to you (Ian) and ask you to load to the web site. After posting my message I found another reference - From: The United Service Journal and Naval and Military Magazine, 1840, Part III, October 1840, p. 286: Promotions and Appointments - War Office, Sept. 1. 86th Regiment of Foot. - Lieut. James M'Intyre to be Capt. without purch., vice Maclean, promoted to 3rd West India Regiment.. 3rd West India Regiment. - To be Lieut.-Col. - Brev. Major Alexander Maclean, from 86th Foot. So it would appear that both of these references are to Alexander Maclean who later died at Millport. Yes, Lachie - LTC means Lieutenant-Colonel, and I see that he did become a Colonel. Thanks for the offer of a copy of the list, but I do have a copy. Jean Whimp sent me one some years ago. The reading of this trail is absolutely fascinating! Thanks again, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Ian Phillips Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 12:27 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Duncan Maclean, of Uisken Hi Linda, Don't know if it helps but mullgenealogy has Mary's father John as 4th of Gruline. The MacLean.org has the same. Ian On 17 January 2014 17:03, Lachie Macquarie <lachiedamn@gmail.com> wrote: > Linda, what do you mean by LTC, is that Lieutenant? He did end up in the > 86th as a Colonel but he could have started his career in any number of > regiments. He would have been in the 86th at the same time as my > GGGrandfather, did he get a commission through Governor Macquarie? > Macquarie, when promoted, was assigned to the Perthshire Regiment, 73rd > and > NSW. > > I have the a copy of the Mull Officers and men, if you want a copy, let me > know. > > > > On 17 January 2014 15:40, <twbennion@nc.rr.com> wrote: > > > Recently came across the lunacy hearing for LTC Alexander MacLean who > died > > at Millport, in 1859 – and left 20,000 pounds for the education of > Maclean > > males. (Jean Whimp – I will be sending you a copy in a few days) > > Part of the case involves testimony given by his sister, Mary (Marion) > > Maclean, wife of Alexander Macdonald, and of Janet (Jessie) Maclean, > > wife > > of James Morrison. > > > > It is my understanding that this LTC Alexander Maclean was a son of > Duncan > > Maclean of Uisken and Mary, daughter of John Maclean of Gruline. My > > question is – which John Maclean of Gruline? > > > > One thing that is confusing me comes from Clan Gillean, p. 273 on the > > Macleans of Uisken, which reads: “We find in 1656 Duncan Maclean, son of > > Patrick, son of John, described as servant to Murdoch Maclean of > Lochbuie. > > This Duncan was in all probability the father of Angus Maclean of > Assapol. > > Angus married Elizabeth, daughter of Duncan Campbell of Dunstaffnage, > > and > > had four children by her, Duncan, Marion, Catherine, and Mary. > > Duncan lived at Uisken in Mull. He married Mary, daughter of John > > Maclean > > of Grulin, by whom he had four sons, Alexander, John, Archibald, and > > Duncan. Duncan (husband of Mary) died in 1770. > > Alexander, the eldest of his sons, was lieutenant-colonel of the 3d West > > India regiment. According to his own account, he was of the race of the > > three Duncans and belonged to the family of Lochbuie. He left the sum of > > 20,000 pounds for the support and education of boys of the name > > Maclean.” > > > > If Duncan Maclean, of Uisken who married Mary Maclean of Grulin died in > > 1770, how could he be the father of the LTC Alexander Maclean who left > the > > 20,000 pounds as he was not born until 1777? Also, I thought the LTC > > Alexander MacLean, who left the 20,000 pounds, was in the 86th Regiment? > > > > Would really appreciate some feedback on who the parents were of the > Mary, > > daughter of John Maclean of Gruline, that married Duncan Maclean, of > > Uisken. And to really make it clear, who were the parents of LTC > Alexander > > Maclean (1777-1859) who left the money for the education of Maclean > males? > > > > Regards, > > Linda Bennion > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > > > > Sláinte, > > Lachaidh > *Tha mo bhàta-foluaimein loma-làn easgannan?* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Recently came across the lunacy hearing for LTC Alexander MacLean who died at Millport, in 1859 – and left 20,000 pounds for the education of Maclean males. (Jean Whimp – I will be sending you a copy in a few days) Part of the case involves testimony given by his sister, Mary (Marion) Maclean, wife of Alexander Macdonald, and of Janet (Jessie) Maclean, wife of James Morrison. It is my understanding that this LTC Alexander Maclean was a son of Duncan Maclean of Uisken and Mary, daughter of John Maclean of Gruline. My question is – which John Maclean of Gruline? One thing that is confusing me comes from Clan Gillean, p. 273 on the Macleans of Uisken, which reads: “We find in 1656 Duncan Maclean, son of Patrick, son of John, described as servant to Murdoch Maclean of Lochbuie. This Duncan was in all probability the father of Angus Maclean of Assapol. Angus married Elizabeth, daughter of Duncan Campbell of Dunstaffnage, and had four children by her, Duncan, Marion, Catherine, and Mary. Duncan lived at Uisken in Mull. He married Mary, daughter of John Maclean of Grulin, by whom he had four sons, Alexander, John, Archibald, and Duncan. Duncan (husband of Mary) died in 1770. Alexander, the eldest of his sons, was lieutenant-colonel of the 3d West India regiment. According to his own account, he was of the race of the three Duncans and belonged to the family of Lochbuie. He left the sum of 20,000 pounds for the support and education of boys of the name Maclean.” If Duncan Maclean, of Uisken who married Mary Maclean of Grulin died in 1770, how could he be the father of the LTC Alexander Maclean who left the 20,000 pounds as he was not born until 1777? Also, I thought the LTC Alexander MacLean, who left the 20,000 pounds, was in the 86th Regiment? Would really appreciate some feedback on who the parents were of the Mary, daughter of John Maclean of Gruline, that married Duncan Maclean, of Uisken. And to really make it clear, who were the parents of LTC Alexander Maclean (1777-1859) who left the money for the education of Maclean males? Regards, Linda Bennion

Having computer problems so this is brief. Rocky Saugeen cemetery transcriptions has John's death 12 Aug 1905, age 40 yrs Sue Visser Sent from my BlackBerry® PlayBook⢠www.blackberry.com _________________________________________________________________ From: "twbennion@nc.rr.com" <twbennion@nc.rr.com> To: "SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com" <SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 16 January, 2014 11:06 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Fletcher/McKinnon Question Hi Ian and list, Ian, I know I sent you some information I had on the Fletcherâs yesterday, but still trying to input the rest of the information and came up with something I canât quite figure out. It concerns, Catherine Fletcher, daughter of Charles Fletcher and Catherine Ste wart, of Bentinck Township, Grey County, Ontario. I think it is on the web site that Catherine married John McKinnon, and I did f ind a marriage record for Catherine Fletcher and John McKinnon (listed below), but then I found a second marriage record (also listed below), so I am wonderin g if Catherine Fletcher married John McKinnon, son of John McKinnon and Flora M cCormack, and he died soon after the marriage, and then she married his brother Angus. Or are these records incorrect? >From Ontario Marriages Name: John Mckinnon Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 20 Mar 1901 Event Place: B entinck, Grey, Ontario, Canada Age: 36 Birth Year (Estimated): 1865 Father's Na me: John Mckinnon Mother's Name: Flora Mccormack Spouse's Name: Katharine Fletc her Spouse's Age: 22 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1879 Spouse's Father's Na me: Charles Fletcher Spouse's Mother's Name: Catharine Stewart Page: GS Film Nu mber: 1871080 Digital Folder Number: 004529277 Image Number: 00127 2nd entry in Ontario Marriages Name: Angus Mckinnon Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 24 Apr 1907 Event Place: Durham, Grey, Ontario, Canada Age: 44 Birth Year (Estimated): 1863 Father's Nam e: John Mckinnon Mother's Name: Flora Mccormack Spouse's Name: Catherine Mckinn on Spouse's Age: 32 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1875 Spouse's Father's Nam e: Charles Fletcher Spouse's Mother's Name: Catherine Stewart Page: 010068 GS F ilm Number: 1871705 Digital Folder Number: 004529301 Image Number: 00621 Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Linda Bennion ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@ro otsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and th e body of the message

Hi All, Further to my recent posting explaining Microsoft's decision to with withdraw support of its XP operating system on 8th April 2014, Microsoft has issued an explanation to the effect that security updates will be issued to the computer industry until 14th July 2015. However, security patches, regular updates and bug fixes for XP will stop as scheduled on 8 April. In its blogpost, Microsoft warned users to stop using XP to ensure they stay safe . "The effectiveness of anti-malware solutions on out-of-support operating systems is limited," said Microsoft. "Running a well-protected solution starts with using modern software and hardware designed to help protect against today's threat landscape." I hope that this explains the seriousness of the situation for XP users and gives sufficient time for those users to make alternative arrangements. I draw this to your attention having spent 40 years in the computer industry and seeing the aftermath of similar warnings being ignored. Ian webmaster mullgenealogy.co.uk

Hi Ian and list, Ian, I know I sent you some information I had on the Fletcher’s yesterday, but still trying to input the rest of the information and came up with something I can’t quite figure out. It concerns, Catherine Fletcher, daughter of Charles Fletcher and Catherine Stewart, of Bentinck Township, Grey County, Ontario. I think it is on the web site that Catherine married John McKinnon, and I did find a marriage record for Catherine Fletcher and John McKinnon (listed below), but then I found a second marriage record (also listed below), so I am wondering if Catherine Fletcher married John McKinnon, son of John McKinnon and Flora McCormack, and he died soon after the marriage, and then she married his brother Angus. Or are these records incorrect? >From Ontario Marriages Name: John Mckinnon Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 20 Mar 1901 Event Place: Bentinck, Grey, Ontario, Canada Age: 36 Birth Year (Estimated): 1865 Father's Name: John Mckinnon Mother's Name: Flora Mccormack Spouse's Name: Katharine Fletcher Spouse's Age: 22 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1879 Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Fletcher Spouse's Mother's Name: Catharine Stewart Page: GS Film Number: 1871080 Digital Folder Number: 004529277 Image Number: 00127 2nd entry in Ontario Marriages Name: Angus Mckinnon Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 24 Apr 1907 Event Place: Durham, Grey, Ontario, Canada Age: 44 Birth Year (Estimated): 1863 Father's Name: John Mckinnon Mother's Name: Flora Mccormack Spouse's Name: Catherine Mckinnon Spouse's Age: 32 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1875 Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Fletcher Spouse's Mother's Name: Catherine Stewart Page: 010068 GS Film Number: 1871705 Digital Folder Number: 004529301 Image Number: 00621 Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Linda Bennion

Hi Jean, I didn't lose any family history files when I changed over because all of my other programs worked fine in the new Windows 7 O/S. The Oz bdm's are the only indexes that I was not able to install directly. As already mentioned they work well in the XPmode virtual machine but there are other VM software programs available which they could be used instead. This would get around the MS support issue. Most 32bit programs run perfectly well on the 64bit version of Windows 7 because they are installed into 32bit program folder called "C:\Program Files(x86}".I myself opted for the 64bit version of Windows 7 because it can access all available memory (8Gbs in my pc}, whereas the 32bit system is very restricted in it's use of memory. Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia On 1/12/2014 3:21 PM, Jean Whimp wrote: > Hi Barry, > Thanks very much for your very practical advice. Incidentally my IT people > had already6 told me that the 32 bit machine was the most likely to work, > but they could promise nothing. I'll talk to my IT people again about > changing as I do have a huge amount of family history on my machine and > would hate to lose it. This is just another example of what a terrific site > this is. > Jean Whimp > South Australia

Hi Libby, Which all very fine except what can one do when all the info is already there on a PC? - My girls both use Apple but there was no choice when I started. Jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth McMillan Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 2:05 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Protection Thanks Ian for the way you advise on the technical as well as the website issues. One of the advantages of Apple is the protection. Best wishes Libby ---------------------------------------------- ekmcm@me.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barry, Thanks very much for your very practical advice. Incidentally my IT people had already6 told me that the 32 bit machine was the most likely to work, but they could promise nothing. I'll talk to my IT people again about changing as I do have a huge amount of family history on my machine and would hate to lose it. This is just another example of what a terrific site this is. Jean Whimp South Australia -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BRH Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 12:30 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Microsoft XP Support Hello Ian & Jean, I switched from XP to Windows 7 Pro (64bit) a couple of years ago. At that time I discovered the Australian BDM Indexes were not compatible with Windows 7 but got around the problem by enabling Windows 7's "XP Mode". This program is freely available from the MS website for certain versions of Win7. It runs XP as a virtual machine on your Win7 desktop and the BDM Indexes work fine when installed in it. You can enable/disable I/net access in XP Mode so the MS support withdrawal should not be an issue. I'll also mention that I've been using MS Word 2000 for many years without Microsoft updates support and have never had a problem. It works fine in Windows 7 also. Here's a link for info about xpmode - http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/using-windows-7s-xp-mode-step-by-step/ Regards, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia On 1/12/2014 9:46 AM, Jean Whimp wrote: > I was told some time ago that the Australian BDM programs might work > with > windows7 but only on the 32 bit machine (not the 64 bit)...that makes > no sense to me but i share it for those who understand more. Maybe > I'll now have to try it out. > jean > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Ian for the way you advise on the technical as well as the website issues. One of the advantages of Apple is the protection. Best wishes Libby ---------------------------------------------- ekmcm@me.com

Hello Ian & Jean, I switched from XP to Windows 7 Pro (64bit) a couple of years ago. At that time I discovered the Australian BDM Indexes were not compatible with Windows 7 but got around the problem by enabling Windows 7's "XP Mode". This program is freely available from the MS website for certain versions of Win7. It runs XP as a virtual machine on your Win7 desktop and the BDM Indexes work fine when installed in it. You can enable/disable I/net access in XP Mode so the MS support withdrawal should not be an issue. I'll also mention that I've been using MS Word 2000 for many years without Microsoft updates support and have never had a problem. It works fine in Windows 7 also. Here's a link for info about xpmode - http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/using-windows-7s-xp-mode-step-by-step/ Regards, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia On 1/12/2014 9:46 AM, Jean Whimp wrote: > I was told some time ago that the Australian BDM programs might work with > windows7 but only on the 32 bit machine (not the 64 bit)...that makes no > sense to me but i share it for those who understand more. Maybe I'll now > have to try it out. > jean >

Hi Jean, I pretty certain that you would be able to transfer your data but you would need to buy and Apple and an Apple version of your family tree program. Both are likely to be rather more expensive than PC equivalent. As Barry explained so clearly Windows 7 is available in 32 and 64 bit versions. 64 bit versions allow the machine to address larger amounts of memory and also work faster. This does mean however that you need to check that software will work on whichever bit version you migrate too. In reality most 32 bit software (i.e. XP programs) will work on 64 bit hardware but 64 bit software will not work on a 32 bit computer. Ian On 12 January 2014 04:25, Jean Whimp <jiwhimp@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Hi Libby, > Which all very fine except what can one do when all the info is already > there on a PC? - My girls both use Apple but there was no choice when I > started. > Jean > > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth > McMillan > Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2014 2:05 PM > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Protection > > Thanks Ian for the way you advise on the technical as well as the website > issues. One of the advantages of Apple is the protection. > Best wishes > Libby > ---------------------------------------------- > ekmcm@me.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was told some time ago that the Australian BDM programs might work with windows7 but only on the 32 bit machine (not the 64 bit)...that makes no sense to me but i share it for those who understand more. Maybe I'll now have to try it out. jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2014 11:23 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Microsoft XP Support I am conscious that this could easily go "off topic", but whatever the position I suggest erring on the side of caution and receiving and sending e-mails in plain text, reducing possibility of virus borne (background) html and not opening unknown attachments. Dull it may be but it is safe. Some mail programs will insert e-mail html content as an attachment. On the subject of being without support it is possible to chug along without it. I believe there are still some folk with Windows 95. PAF doesn't have support any longer and is being used I suspect on a wide scale and I've been using it without complications. I am given to understand that Windows for iPad is being attacked and that Android is safer, but nothing will always be safe. I would suggest transferring CD or DVD content onto a USB key if one needs to transport data. As an aside, I believe Roots Magic is key compatible which means the software can be uploaded to a key and transported. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> To: "Jean Whimp" <jiwhimp@optusnet.com.au>; <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com>; <sct-arg-coll@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Microsoft XP Support Hi Jean and all, I understand what you are saying but I would be surprised if the programs and data will not run under Windows 7 or 8 albeit that you might need to run them in Administrator mode. There are ways and means. I should have added that in addition to support for XP being stopped, support for Microsoft Office 2003 is also being withdrawn from April 2014. Don't think that a good anti-virus program will protect you because it will not Having read further on the subject last night, pundits are predicting that hackers will turn their attention to XP weaknesses as the protective shield provided by Microsoft will be down from April. A possible work round would be to disconnect your computer from the internet and purchase a relatively cheap tablet for reading and answering emails and searching the internet. This would at least protect your investment in programs and data. Regards, Ian --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I never doubt your sincerity. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Microsoft XP Support In posting the original message I was only trying to alert XP users to the fact that Microsoft was withdrawing support from April 2014 (a fact which I'm sure most would not be aware of) and suggest that they ought to migrate to a safer platform. On moving from XP to Windows 7 a few very old programs failed to work and I was able to identify alternatives. I would hasten to add that the programs where ones that I used in program development etc and where not everyday programs. To be safe I will repeat my suggestion that XP users consider removing their computers from a direct internet connection and use another device to communicate directly with the internet after April. Depending on the devices in use, data could still be transferred between them in order to exchange information over the net. The last thing I would like to see are users who have invested a great deal of time and money have their computers corrupted. Regards, Ian --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Thanks for the advice, Ian :) Caroline -----Original Message----- From: Ian Phillips Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:42 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Microsoft XP Support In posting the original message I was only trying to alert XP users to the fact that Microsoft was withdrawing support from April 2014 (a fact which I'm sure most would not be aware of) and suggest that they ought to migrate to a safer platform. On moving from XP to Windows 7 a few very old programs failed to work and I was able to identify alternatives. I would hasten to add that the programs where ones that I used in program development etc and where not everyday programs. Regards, Ian email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Whilst I agree that text emails are safer, emails are not the only attach vehicle used to plant viruses and malware onto a pc. All operating systems are under constant attach. Microsoft do their best to protect users with their monthly software updates but when these stop, the loop holes are exploited and computers corrupted. Have to admit I have not seem anyone using anything older than Widows XP accessing the mullgenealogy website for sometime now but that does not mean to say that they are not out there somewhere. If they have any sense they will not be accessing the internet now. Whilst I would urge everybody to take backups of their data (even better their whole computer), such action does not protect a user 100% from attach. Any connection leaves one open to attach but steps can be taken to reduce the chances of such an attack. Janet is right "nothing all always be safe". In posting the original message I was only trying to alert XP users to the fact that Microsoft was withdrawing support from April 2014 (a fact which I'm sure most would not be aware of) and suggest that they ought to migrate to a safer platform. On moving from XP to Windows 7 a few very old programs failed to work and I was able to identify alternatives. I would hasten to add that the programs where ones that I used in program development etc and where not everyday programs. To be safe I will repeat my suggestion that XP users consider removing their computers from a direct internet connection and use another device to communicate directly with the internet after April. Depending on the devices in use, data could still be transferred between them in order to exchange information over the net. The last thing I would like to see are users who have invested a great deal of time and money have their computers corrupted. Regards, Ian On 11 January 2014 12:53, Janet <cilurnum@googlemail.com> wrote: > I am conscious that this could easily go "off topic", but whatever the > position I > suggest erring on the side of caution and receiving and sending e-mails in > plain > text, reducing possibility of virus borne (background) html and not > opening unknown > attachments. Dull it may be but it is safe. Some mail programs will > insert e-mail > html content as an attachment. On the subject of being without support it > is > possible to chug along without it. I believe there are still some folk > with Windows > 95. PAF doesn't have support any longer and is being used I suspect on a > wide scale > and I've been using it without complications. I am given to understand > that Windows > for iPad is being attacked and that Android is safer, but nothing will > always be > safe. I would suggest transferring CD or DVD content onto a USB key if > one needs to > transport data. As an aside, I believe Roots Magic is key compatible > which means the > software can be uploaded to a key and transported. > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> > To: "Jean Whimp" <jiwhimp@optusnet.com.au>; <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com>; > <sct-arg-coll@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:44 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Microsoft XP Support > > > Hi Jean and all, > > I understand what you are saying but I would be surprised if the programs > and data will not run under Windows 7 or 8 albeit that you might need to > run them in Administrator mode. There are ways and means. > > I should have added that in addition to support for XP being stopped, > support for Microsoft Office 2003 is also being withdrawn from April 2014. > Don't think that a good anti-virus program will protect you because it will > not > > Having read further on the subject last night, pundits are predicting that > hackers will turn their attention to XP weaknesses as the protective shield > provided by Microsoft will be down from April. > > A possible work round would be to disconnect your computer from the > internet and purchase a relatively cheap tablet for reading and answering > emails and searching the internet. This would at least protect your > investment in programs and data. > > Regards, > > Ian > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >