Ian I agree that Mullgenealogy will have records not on Mullfamilies (and vice versa), but surely you cannot have every name that has been registered !!. I decided to compile the complete list of SR births for MacLean/McLean, Kilninian parish 1855-1914. Part 1 below. As you would expect, the previous short list of 'orphans' are included here (and lots more). With the complete list, many of these names have known parents (non-orphans), and are included in the databases of Mullgenealogy and Mullfamilies. Thanks to the generosity of MF members, the purchase of the Indexes (and BDMs, pics, postcards etc...) has been made possible. Special thanks to Irfaan and Phyllis. In the case of the 1881 entry for Fanny, this has been corrected by me to Femy (GROS gets a lot wrong, and i've corrected dozens). Now dear listers, it's up to you to help in coming up with the parents of this lot !!. This is only a fraction of what can be found on site under Repositories. Please submit your research results to the list. Anyone can contact me directly too, and attachments of BDMs will be most welcome Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk Year Surname Forename Sex Parish County GROS Ref 1855 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0037 1855 MACLEAN ALEXANDER M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0032 1855 MACLEAN CATHARINE F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0040 1855 MACLEAN CHARLES M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0029 1855 MCLEAN CHRISTINA F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0020 1855 MACLEAN LACHLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0043 1855 MACLEAN MALCOLM M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0039 1855 MACLEAN MARION F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0025 1855 MACLEAN NIEL M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0044 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0010 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0039 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0014 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0016 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0035 1856 MACLEAN ANNE F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0025 1856 MACLEAN COLL M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0044 1856 MACLEAN FLORY F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0020 1856 MACLEAN GRACE F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0037 1856 MACLEAN JOHN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0027 1856 MACLEAN MARGARET F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0018 1856 MACLEAN MARY F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0023 1856 MACLEAN MARY F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0011 1857 MCLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0007 1857 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0003 1857 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 1857 MACLEAN GEORGE M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0021 1857 MACLEAN HUGH M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0017 1857 MACLEAN MARGARET F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0018 1858 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 1858 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0022 1858 MACLEAN ALEXANDER M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0005 1858 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0007 1858 MACLEAN BELL F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0035 1858 MACLEAN CATHERINE F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0008 1858 MACLEAN CHARLES M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0038 1858 MACLEAN DONALD M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0020 1858 MACLEAN DUNCAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0032 1859 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0015 1859 MACLEAN ANNE F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0017 1859 MACLEAN ANNE F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0010 1859 MACLEAN ARCHIBALD M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0003 1859 MACLEAN CATHARINE F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0025 1859 MACLEAN DUNCAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0020 1859 MACLEAN FLORY F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0029 1859 MACLEAN JOHANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0008 1859 MACLEAN MARION F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0011 1860 MACLEAN ALEXANDER DUNCA M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0038 1860 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0049 1860 MACLEAN ANNE F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0018 1860 MACLEAN CHRISTINA F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0023 1860 MACLEAN HUGH M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0026 1860 MACLEAN JANET F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0019 1860 MACLEAN JOHN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0041 1860 MACLEAN JOHN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0032 www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Orphaned Names > > In addition you might like to know it already has the records that Michael > is currently adding to his database. > > Best regards, > > Ian webmaster MullGenealogy.co.uk >

Hi Jean, Mullgenealogy has the following McConnell/MacCannel names on the database. John <http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=7648> (MCCANNEL)Estimated 1741 (Bir) - Mary MCNEIL John<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=7651> (MCCANNEL)Estimated 1760 (Bir) - Margaret FLETCHER Marion<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=33078> (MACCONNELL)Estimated 1761 (Bir) - Neil MACKAY Catherine<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=31221> (MACCONNEL)Estimated 1766 (Bir) - Donald MACFADYEN Unknown<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=33089> (MCCONNELL)Estimated 1777 (Bir) - Alexander MCNICOLL Mary<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=7650> (MCCANNEL)13 October 1780 (Bap) - Neil<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=7653> (MCCANNEL)Estimated 1785 (Bap) - Mary<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=7654> (MCCANNEL)14 December 1789 (Bap) - Bell<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=7655> (MCCANNEL)About 1803 (Bir) - Mary<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=51611> (MCCANNELL)Estimated 1815 (Bir) - Donald BELL Janet<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=51330> (MCCONNELL)Estimated 1832 (Bir) - Donald MORRISON Henry<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=43191> (MCCONNEL)Estimated 1890 (Bir) - Flora Edna CAMERON John<http://localhost/MullSearch.Asp?indv_no=7502> (MCCONNELL)Estimated 1906 (Bir) - Mary MACLEAN In addition you might like to know it already has the records that Michael is currently adding to his database. Best regards, Ian webmaster MullGenealogy.co.uk On 15 March 2014 18:50, MANOFMULL <mullman@mullfamilies.plus.com> wrote: > Jean > > I'm still working through the SR Indexes of Kilninian parish, and adding > names to the site database. > > Most parishes have been done, but Torosay will be next (Iona, Tobermory and > Torosay to do) > > At present, I have a handful of McCannell names : John McCannell/Margaret > Fletcher with two children bap Kilninian. > > There are also Connel/Connell and McConnell. > > Once I complete the SR Indexes, I will do more with the OPRs. A start has > been made with Kilninian, but there is much to do > > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Hutchinson" <mjhutch35@gmail.com> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:36 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Orphaned Names > > > > Wonderful ..... Did you find a Mccannell or cannell ... there is a Glen > > Cannel , so there must have been some people by that name . My research > > has not reveled what I was looking for. > > Jean > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:22 PM, MANOFMULL > > <mullman@mullfamilies.plus.com>wrote: > > > >> Although the databases of Mullgenealogy and Mullfamilies are > >> considerable, > >> many names are still waiting to be 'discovered'. > >> > >> Due to people dying, and families moving/emigrating, there are hundreds > >> of > >> unknowns that never made it to any Census returns. > >> > >> Thanks to the members of Mullfamilies, I have purchased the vast > majority > >> of the GROS OPR & SR Indexes of baptisms/births, which list thousands of > >> names. > >> > >> The SR short list below is but a fraction of those names that I cannot > >> link to existing known families. All these are of Kilninian parish, but > I > >> have many more from Kilninian and also the other Mull parishes. > >> > >> It is hoped that researchers of these surnames might be able to identify > >> some, and pursue others. The results can be posted here for both camps, > >> but > >> I would be most grateful to receive any BDMs off list. I simply cannot > >> afford to buy them all. > >> > >> There's no point in listing hundreds of names at present, until I see if > >> there's a good response to this short list. If so, I will continue to > >> list > >> many more 'orphans'. > >> > >> 1901 BEATON EUPHEMIA F KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON /ARGYLL 542/00 0011 > >> 1912 BEATON JOHANANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0005 > >> 1898 BEATON NEIL M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > >> 1859 MACKINNON CHRISTY F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0018 > >> > >> 1855 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0037 >> > >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0010 > >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0039 > >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0014 > >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0016 >> forenames > >> not given > >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0035 > >> 1857 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0003 > >> 1857 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > >> 1858 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > >> 1859 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0015 >> > >> > >> 1911 MACLEAN ALEXANDER M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0004 > >> 1885 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 > > >> 1886 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0020 > > > >> one s/o Donald/Marion McLean > >> 1879 MACLEAN ANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0001 > >> 1896 MACLEAN CHRISTINA F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 > >> 1901 MACLEAN JOHN CLARK M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0007 > >> > >> > >> Michael > >> www.mullfamilies.co.uk (database 44,000+) > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jean I'm still working through the SR Indexes of Kilninian parish, and adding names to the site database. Most parishes have been done, but Torosay will be next (Iona, Tobermory and Torosay to do) At present, I have a handful of McCannell names : John McCannell/Margaret Fletcher with two children bap Kilninian. There are also Connel/Connell and McConnell. Once I complete the SR Indexes, I will do more with the OPRs. A start has been made with Kilninian, but there is much to do Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Hutchinson" <mjhutch35@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Orphaned Names > Wonderful ..... Did you find a Mccannell or cannell ... there is a Glen > Cannel , so there must have been some people by that name . My research > has not reveled what I was looking for. > Jean > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:22 PM, MANOFMULL > <mullman@mullfamilies.plus.com>wrote: > >> Although the databases of Mullgenealogy and Mullfamilies are >> considerable, >> many names are still waiting to be 'discovered'. >> >> Due to people dying, and families moving/emigrating, there are hundreds >> of >> unknowns that never made it to any Census returns. >> >> Thanks to the members of Mullfamilies, I have purchased the vast majority >> of the GROS OPR & SR Indexes of baptisms/births, which list thousands of >> names. >> >> The SR short list below is but a fraction of those names that I cannot >> link to existing known families. All these are of Kilninian parish, but I >> have many more from Kilninian and also the other Mull parishes. >> >> It is hoped that researchers of these surnames might be able to identify >> some, and pursue others. The results can be posted here for both camps, >> but >> I would be most grateful to receive any BDMs off list. I simply cannot >> afford to buy them all. >> >> There's no point in listing hundreds of names at present, until I see if >> there's a good response to this short list. If so, I will continue to >> list >> many more 'orphans'. >> >> 1901 BEATON EUPHEMIA F KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON /ARGYLL 542/00 0011 >> 1912 BEATON JOHANANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0005 >> 1898 BEATON NEIL M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 >> 1859 MACKINNON CHRISTY F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0018 >> >> 1855 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0037 >> >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0010 >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0039 >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0014 >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0016 >> forenames >> not given >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0035 >> 1857 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0003 >> 1857 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 >> 1858 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 >> 1859 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0015 >> >> >> 1911 MACLEAN ALEXANDER M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0004 >> 1885 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 > >> 1886 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0020 > >> one s/o Donald/Marion McLean >> 1879 MACLEAN ANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0001 >> 1896 MACLEAN CHRISTINA F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 >> 1901 MACLEAN JOHN CLARK M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0007 >> >> >> Michael >> www.mullfamilies.co.uk (database 44,000+) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ever wondered what the most popular given names are for our ancestors ?. I've recently added a Report to the website which lists these names in descending order (most popular at top). The list is slightly distorted due to a handful of names that are interchangeable, and could/should be combined : Marion/Sarah, Janet/Jessie etc......... Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk

Wonderful ..... Did you find a Mccannell or cannell ... there is a Glen Cannel , so there must have been some people by that name . My research has not reveled what I was looking for. Jean On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:22 PM, MANOFMULL <mullman@mullfamilies.plus.com>wrote: > Although the databases of Mullgenealogy and Mullfamilies are considerable, > many names are still waiting to be 'discovered'. > > Due to people dying, and families moving/emigrating, there are hundreds of > unknowns that never made it to any Census returns. > > Thanks to the members of Mullfamilies, I have purchased the vast majority > of the GROS OPR & SR Indexes of baptisms/births, which list thousands of > names. > > The SR short list below is but a fraction of those names that I cannot > link to existing known families. All these are of Kilninian parish, but I > have many more from Kilninian and also the other Mull parishes. > > It is hoped that researchers of these surnames might be able to identify > some, and pursue others. The results can be posted here for both camps, but > I would be most grateful to receive any BDMs off list. I simply cannot > afford to buy them all. > > There's no point in listing hundreds of names at present, until I see if > there's a good response to this short list. If so, I will continue to list > many more 'orphans'. > > 1901 BEATON EUPHEMIA F KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON /ARGYLL 542/00 0011 > 1912 BEATON JOHANANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0005 > 1898 BEATON NEIL M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > 1859 MACKINNON CHRISTY F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0018 > > 1855 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0037 >> > 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0010 > 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0039 > 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0014 > 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0016 >> forenames > not given > 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0035 > 1857 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0003 > 1857 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > 1858 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > 1859 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0015 >> > > 1911 MACLEAN ALEXANDER M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0004 > 1885 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 > > 1886 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0020 > > one s/o Donald/Marion McLean > 1879 MACLEAN ANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0001 > 1896 MACLEAN CHRISTINA F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 > 1901 MACLEAN JOHN CLARK M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0007 > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk (database 44,000+) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mary The partial list of 'orphaned' names are those that I cannot tie/link to known families at present. The odd one or two might be known to Ian/Mullgenealogy, but I would guess that not all of these are. If any are known to Mullgenealogy, then they are only 'orphans' to Mullfamilies. Many names come to light by researchers buying a BDM for their family details, and submitting the result to the list/website. The purchase of the Indexes gives the complete list of names registered. For the reasons stated, (deaths, work movement & emigration) many of these registered names remain 'orphaned' until the birth record BDM is purchased. Even searching the IGI via Familysearch reveals nothing about many of the Indexed 'orphans'. As far as your own family is concerned, there's no hard and fast rule as to why they cannot be found. Many moved to the mainland for work, and others emigrated. Parents not shown as deceased on a marriage record, should mean they were alive at that time, but if omitted for whatever reason, would mean that they were in fact deceased. I have asked GROS on many occasions to find a death record that should exist but could not be found. They put it down to a 'mystery'. Just recently I added a name (birth record) that was not registered within the required 3 month period. It was eventually registered three years later !!. Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Harris" <r_harris@sympatico.ca> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Orphaned Names > Hi Michael, > I'm not exactly sure what is meant by an orphaned name, but I certainly do > have people who dropped completely off the radar but did not emigrate or > even move too far away. They had been 'cleared' possibly more than once > and I think they might have been wary of sharing to much info. with anyone > in authority. > My great great grandparents, Catherine MCARTHUR and Archibald MCKINNON, > both born around 1813, only appear on one census, 1841, at Burg, Kilninian > with one child, Catherine MCKINNON b. 1839 (later married James MCDOUGALL > in 1866). They had at least two more children, Donald MCKINNON in 1843 and > Neil MCKINNON in 1847, possibly an Ann MCKINNON too. By 1851, they are all > gone. Only Donald is to be found and he is with MCARTHUR relatives. Where > is everyone else? We know Neil survived - he was my great grandfather. We > think he must have grown up in an isolated place because he never learned > to read/write nor speak English. Catherine married locally. On her 1866 > marriage reg. it does not say that her parents were deceased, so where > were they? I can understand dodging the census taker, but the > undertaker??? No death regs. can be found - surely they're not living > still? > Is this common on Mull? Wondering what the percentage of undocumented > people was during those times in that area. Maybe my missing family isn't > that unusual. Thanks! > Mary Fletcher Harris > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michael, I'm not exactly sure what is meant by an orphaned name, but I certainly do have people who dropped completely off the radar but did not emigrate or even move too far away. They had been 'cleared' possibly more than once and I think they might have been wary of sharing to much info. with anyone in authority. My great great grandparents, Catherine MCARTHUR and Archibald MCKINNON, both born around 1813, only appear on one census, 1841, at Burg, Kilninian with one child, Catherine MCKINNON b. 1839 (later married James MCDOUGALL in 1866). They had at least two more children, Donald MCKINNON in 1843 and Neil MCKINNON in 1847, possibly an Ann MCKINNON too. By 1851, they are all gone. Only Donald is to be found and he is with MCARTHUR relatives. Where is everyone else? We know Neil survived - he was my great grandfather. We think he must have grown up in an isolated place because he never learned to read/write nor speak English. Catherine married locally. On her 1866 marriage reg. it does not say that her parents were deceased, so where were they? I can understand dodging the census taker, but the undertaker??? No death regs. can be found - surely they're not living still? Is this common on Mull? Wondering what the percentage of undocumented people was during those times in that area. Maybe my missing family isn't that unusual. Thanks! Mary Fletcher Harris

The first line for Euphemia Beaton is a Kilfinichen parish entry in the SR Index (all others Kilninian). Another unnamed McLean birth. 1857 MCLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0007 A different GROS Ref number (and spelling of McLean) to the one below. Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "MANOFMULL" <mullman@mullfamilies.plus.com> To: <SCT-ISLEOFMULL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 9:22 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Orphaned Names > Although the databases of Mullgenealogy and Mullfamilies are considerable, > many names are still waiting to be 'discovered'. > > Due to people dying, and families moving/emigrating, there are hundreds of > unknowns that never made it to any Census returns. > > Thanks to the members of Mullfamilies, I have purchased the vast majority > of the GROS OPR & SR Indexes of baptisms/births, which list thousands of > names. > > The SR short list below is but a fraction of those names that I cannot > link to existing known families. All these are of Kilninian parish, but I > have many more from Kilninian and also the other Mull parishes. > > It is hoped that researchers of these surnames might be able to identify > some, and pursue others. The results can be posted here for both camps, > but I would be most grateful to receive any BDMs off list. I simply cannot > afford to buy them all. > > There's no point in listing hundreds of names at present, until I see if > there's a good response to this short list. If so, I will continue to list > many more 'orphans'. > > 1901 BEATON EUPHEMIA F KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON /ARGYLL 542/00 0011 > 1912 BEATON JOHANANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0005 > 1898 BEATON NEIL M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > 1859 MACKINNON CHRISTY F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0018 > > 1855 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0037 >> > 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0010 > 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0039 > 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0014 > 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0016 >> forenames > not given > 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0035 > 1857 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0003 > 1857 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > 1858 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 > 1859 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0015 >> > > 1911 MACLEAN ALEXANDER M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0004 > 1885 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 > > 1886 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0020 > > one s/o Donald/Marion McLean > 1879 MACLEAN ANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0001 > 1896 MACLEAN CHRISTINA F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 > 1901 MACLEAN JOHN CLARK M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0007 > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk (database 44,000+) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Irfaan I have responded to this off-list. Potential new members can register here. http://www.mullfamilies.co.uk/newacctform.php Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: <irfaan.harris@yahoo.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Orphaned Names Mike, I trust you are well I hope that I can contribute financially. Do you have a easy option that can allow people to donate small amounts, or big, but must be easy Regards Irfaan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike, I trust you are well I hope that I can contribute financially. Do you have a easy option that can allow people  to donate small  amounts,  or big,  but must be easy Regards Irfaan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Although the databases of Mullgenealogy and Mullfamilies are considerable, many names are still waiting to be 'discovered'. Due to people dying, and families moving/emigrating, there are hundreds of unknowns that never made it to any Census returns. Thanks to the members of Mullfamilies, I have purchased the vast majority of the GROS OPR & SR Indexes of baptisms/births, which list thousands of names. The SR short list below is but a fraction of those names that I cannot link to existing known families. All these are of Kilninian parish, but I have many more from Kilninian and also the other Mull parishes. It is hoped that researchers of these surnames might be able to identify some, and pursue others. The results can be posted here for both camps, but I would be most grateful to receive any BDMs off list. I simply cannot afford to buy them all. There's no point in listing hundreds of names at present, until I see if there's a good response to this short list. If so, I will continue to list many more 'orphans'. 1901 BEATON EUPHEMIA F KILFINICHEN AND KILVICKEON /ARGYLL 542/00 0011 1912 BEATON JOHANANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0005 1898 BEATON NEIL M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 1859 MACKINNON CHRISTY F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0018 1855 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0037 >> 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0010 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0039 1856 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0014 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0016 >> forenames not given 1856 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0035 1857 MACLEAN \0 M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0003 1857 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 1858 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0012 1859 MACLEAN \0 F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0015 >> 1911 MACLEAN ALEXANDER M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0004 1885 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 > 1886 MACLEAN ALLAN M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0020 > one s/o Donald/Marion McLean 1879 MACLEAN ANN F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0001 1896 MACLEAN CHRISTINA F KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/00 0009 1901 MACLEAN JOHN CLARK M KILNINIAN AND KILMORE /ARGYLL 544/02 0007 Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk (database 44,000+)

Does anyone know if there is a list of names available of the children who died on the voyage of the ship "Brilliant" in 1837 to Australia? S.

Thank you Tricia ! my Grandmother ( born on Mull ) was called HUGHINA. Missed the name Alexandra on the list of female names though. Bye from Germany, Sandra -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Tricia Barnett Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. März 2014 14:25 An: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Betreff: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Celtic names in British Isles Subject: Celtic names in British Isles Conversation in another group about girl's first names with INA added to boy's name. I then remembered this site which has Celtic names of British Isles showing male female first-names and surnames with variations http://www.amethyst-night.com/names/ Tricia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Subject: Celtic names in British Isles Conversation in another group about girl's first names with INA added to boy's name. I then remembered this site which has Celtic names of British Isles showing male female first-names and surnames with variations http://www.amethyst-night.com/names/ Tricia

Hi Linda, Have printed it off so i can compare it with what I have. Will also look and see whether Nicolas Maclean, who sent his descendancy to the Lord Lyon might have made some comment on this. I know her made some corrections to the original history that had been given to the Lord Lyon. Nicolas is the head of Px branch. I have oblt the three genealogies you mentioned so i'll see if re-reading them adds to my info. Talk to you later when I've had a good look . jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of twbennion@nc.rr.com Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2014 3:12 AM To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Allan MacLean, of Gruline Need some help understanding an entry from Ontarian Families – Genealogies of United Empire Loyalist and Other Pioneer Families of Upper Canada, by Edward Marion Chadwick, Toronto (1898). It has been my understanding from the three major MacLean genealogies, that Allan, 1st of Gruline was a son of Charles Maclean, of Ardnacross and Mary (d/o Allan Maclean of Ardgour)), but the following is given in the source above: “Ian (or John) Dubh, of Morvern, was ancestor of the families of Kinlochaline, Drimmin, Pennycross, and others; he m. 2ndly, Catherine, dau. of John Gorm Campbell, of Lochnell, and had issue of that marriage, one son – Allan, of Ardtornish. Allan, of Ardtornish, who m. the dau. of Maclan of Ardnamurchan (Macdonald of Glencoe), and had issue, of whom the second son, Charles, of Ardnacross. Charles, of Ardnacross, m. Mary, dau. of Allan Maclean of Ardgour, and had issue, of whom the second son, Lauchlan, of Calgary. Lauchlan, of Calgary, m. 1stly Florence, dau. of Farquhar Fraser, Dean of the Isles, and 2ndly, Annie, dau. of John McLean of Toteronald, of the family of Maclean of Coll, and had issue (besides others), Allan, of Gruline. Allan, of Gruline, who m. Una, dau. of Macquarrie of Ulva, and had issue, of whom the second son, Charles, of Kilunaig.” This source continues on, but my main concern is – who were the parents of Allan, of Gruline (husband of Una Macquarrie)? Would appreciate any comments concerning the descend of Allan, of Gruline. Jean Whimp – I know this is part of your line, so would love to get your comments. Thanks, Linda Bennion ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janet, I agree. Personal ratings are the best and so Mull would be number one. Third in Britain, ninth in Europe is not bad. Ian On 19 February 2014 15:55, Janet <cilurnum@googlemail.com> wrote: > I saw it earlier but not from the same source. I wonder about the worth > of such > reviews because one can find a different outcome. This listing of European > islands has Mull at No. 9 > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-26247865so I > really do feel one's personal rating is always the best. > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:46 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Trip Advisor get the result nearly right > > > Hi, > > Something we have known for years. > > In it's annual review of the best islands to visit 2014, Mull has come > third. > > http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/TravelersChoice-Islands > > Ian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I saw it earlier but not from the same source. I wonder about the worth of such reviews because one can find a different outcome. This listing of European islands has Mull at No. 9 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-26247865 so I really do feel one's personal rating is always the best. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <mullgenealogy@gmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Trip Advisor get the result nearly right Hi, Something we have known for years. In it's annual review of the best islands to visit 2014, Mull has come third. http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/TravelersChoice-Islands Ian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

James J Cameron Birth 26 Aug 1870 in Chelsea, Middlesex, England Death 18 Nov 1959 in Hamilton, Butler, Ohio, United States I was searching for above whose father a James Cameron was from Scotland moved to England at some time before 1870 where he had above child James J Cameron b 26 August 1870 Chelsea according to the marriage cert of son James J in Ohio 1903. His father named as James J Cameron - Scotland and mother Emily Druneau - France I can't find either James the son or James and Emily in UK and would have expected at least 1871 1881 census and can't find James the son b 1870 entering Canada or US 1896 as stated on census. BUT I did come across this passenger list entry which may belong to one of our MULL list. RAMBLER: 06/20/1806: TOBERMORY, MULL, TO CHARLOTTETOWN, P.E.I. ALEXANDER CAMERON: 54 YEARS OLD WIFE: CATHERINE-38 YEARS OLD CHILDREN: JEAN-20 YEARS OLD HUGH-17 YEARS OLD JOHN-15 YEARS OLD JANET-14 YEARS OLD SARAH-12 YEARS OLD JAMES-5 YEARS OLD CATHERINE-2 MONTHS OLD ALEXANDER CAMERON: 28 YEARS OLD WIFE: MARY-23 YEARS OLD CHILDREN: CATHERINE-1 YEAR OLD ANGUS/JOHN CAMERON: 60 YEARS OLD - LISTED UNDER BOTH OF THESE NAMES! WIFE: ANN-50 YEARS OLD CHILDREN: DONALD-30 YEARS OLD ALEXANDER-20 YEARS OLD SARAH-19 YEARS OLD ANN-17 YEARS OLD FLORA-15 YEARS OLD ALLAN-12 YEARS OLD ANGUS-10 YEARS OLD DONALD-5 MONTHS OLD JOHN CAMERON: 21 YEARS OLD MARY CAMERON: 50 YEARS OLD, MOTHER OF JOHN CAMERON, AGE 21, ALSO ON SHIP ? Meanwhile anyone with other ship data to Canada or US 1896? The reason I ask all this is that I share some proven DNA with this family and of course my maternal line is back to Mull in 1700s with McDougall/McPhail Tricia

Hi, Something we have known for years. In it's annual review of the best islands to visit 2014, Mull has come third. http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/TravelersChoice-Islands Ian

Need some help understanding an entry from Ontarian Families – Genealogies of United Empire Loyalist and Other Pioneer Families of Upper Canada, by Edward Marion Chadwick, Toronto (1898). It has been my understanding from the three major MacLean genealogies, that Allan, 1st of Gruline was a son of Charles Maclean, of Ardnacross and Mary (d/o Allan Maclean of Ardgour)), but the following is given in the source above: “Ian (or John) Dubh, of Morvern, was ancestor of the families of Kinlochaline, Drimmin, Pennycross, and others; he m. 2ndly, Catherine, dau. of John Gorm Campbell, of Lochnell, and had issue of that marriage, one son – Allan, of Ardtornish. Allan, of Ardtornish, who m. the dau. of Maclan of Ardnamurchan (Macdonald of Glencoe), and had issue, of whom the second son, Charles, of Ardnacross. Charles, of Ardnacross, m. Mary, dau. of Allan Maclean of Ardgour, and had issue, of whom the second son, Lauchlan, of Calgary. Lauchlan, of Calgary, m. 1stly Florence, dau. of Farquhar Fraser, Dean of the Isles, and 2ndly, Annie, dau. of John McLean of Toteronald, of the family of Maclean of Coll, and had issue (besides others), Allan, of Gruline. Allan, of Gruline, who m. Una, dau. of Macquarrie of Ulva, and had issue, of whom the second son, Charles, of Kilunaig.” This source continues on, but my main concern is – who were the parents of Allan, of Gruline (husband of Una Macquarrie)? Would appreciate any comments concerning the descend of Allan, of Gruline. Jean Whimp – I know this is part of your line, so would love to get your comments. Thanks, Linda Bennion