Les how about a canuck's signature?

Les, Does a yank's signature have any value on this petition ? Tom McQuarrie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Horn" <leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> To: "Lochaber and North Argyll Family History Group" <landnafhg@fsmail.net> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Release of Census Information Hi all We all know how important census information can be in researching our Family Trees. I've just checked the petition to No.10 to release census information early - dropping the 100 year rule to 70 years - and it currently has just over 9,000 signatures. The closing date is 8th March. Please sign-up to let our views be known. The URL is: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/CensusInfoFreed/ Regards Les ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I didn't so see this posted, so trying again. - I'm looking for more information on a Mary McDonald McGillivray who gave birth to Hugh, christened 9 Nov 1805 in Kilfin. parish, father Duncan McGillivray. Thanks for any clues. - Karen

Sounds interesting, what exactly does one have to do. Sherri

Hi fellow listers, If the list is quiet, some of us down under are still having grandchildren visits, being on holidays, or going to the beach. However we are also involved with the Roses of the Heart Project and if any of you ladies can sew please look at this wonderful Project. The project work will be displayed in Australia this International Womens Day [March] but in 2008 will be displayed in London and maybe Paris ? I have put family history aside for a week or two to contribute to the Project and have gained enormous pleasure from my endeavours. If you have some time in the cold north consider helping, give it a go you won't regret it. Happy New Year to all, Irene Kerr

Hi! What do I have to do? I'm interested. Love, Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny" <dannyk@shoal.net.au> To: "'Isle of Mull List'" <SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:45 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Roses of the Heart Project > Hi fellow listers, > > If the list is quiet, some of us down under are still having > grandchildren visits, being on holidays, or going to the beach. > > However we are also involved with the Roses of the Heart Project and if > any of you ladies can sew please look at this wonderful Project. The > project work will be displayed in Australia this International Womens > Day [March] but in 2008 will be displayed in London and maybe Paris ? > > I have put family history aside for a week or two to contribute to the > Project and have gained enormous pleasure from my endeavours. If you > have some time in the cold north consider helping, give it a go you > won't regret it. > > Happy New Year to all, > > Irene Kerr > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi. Yes, I'm also interested. Let us know more! June. >From: "Jill Dakin" <jedakin@bigpond.net.au> >Reply-To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com >To: <dannyk@shoal.net.au>, <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Roses of the Heart Project >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 06:59:35 +1000 > >Hi! What do I have to do? I'm interested. Love, Jill >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Danny" <dannyk@shoal.net.au> >To: "'Isle of Mull List'" <SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:45 AM >Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Roses of the Heart Project > > > > Hi fellow listers, > > > > If the list is quiet, some of us down under are still having > > grandchildren visits, being on holidays, or going to the beach. > > > > However we are also involved with the Roses of the Heart Project and if > > any of you ladies can sew please look at this wonderful Project. The > > project work will be displayed in Australia this International Womens > > Day [March] but in 2008 will be displayed in London and maybe Paris ? > > > > I have put family history aside for a week or two to contribute to the > > Project and have gained enormous pleasure from my endeavours. If you > > have some time in the cold north consider helping, give it a go you > > won't regret it. > > > > Happy New Year to all, > > > > Irene Kerr > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

Hi all We all know how important census information can be in researching our Family Trees. I've just checked the petition to No.10 to release census information early - dropping the 100 year rule to 70 years - and it currently has just over 9,000 signatures. The closing date is 8th March. Please sign-up to let our views be known. The URL is: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/CensusInfoFreed/ Regards Les

I'm looking for more information on a Mary McDonald McGillivray who gave birth to Hugh, christened 9 Nov 1805 in Kilfin. parish, father Duncan McGillivray. Thanks for anything. - Karen

Many thanks. It would be interesting if anyone knows any more about the relationships of the people on that page or so of the census. Looking at the 1851 census I didn't seem to find the McKinnon s from that family. Is anyone working through Tobermory in the censuses plotting particular family groupings? On the subjetc of Ancestry.com in the Scottish transcriptions, there is a bit of a challenge on this page of the census as when I looked for Barbara's entry using infomration gleaned from Scotlandspeople I was initiallly unable to find it as it looks like the surnames McKinnon and Campbell have a different transcription from that on Scotlandspeople - from memory I believe Campbell was transcribed as Camphor. Still, I have found some very useful information using the Ancestry.com library edition. Best Wishes Duncan ........................... Hi Pam I'm not sure if this will help or not. The McPhee information seems to be similar but I can't prove anything here. Duncan & Pam McMillan wrote: > >Checking back through possible entries for Barbara in the >1841 census brought up C1841_549_00_001_000_2_005Z.TIF for >Tobermory which shows a Barbara Campbell of the correct age >(10) staying in Ardmore with Mary McKinnon , farmer, 50; >Dugald McKinnon 35; and Chirsty McKinnon aged 30 (about the >correct age to be Barbara's mother). I note that there is a >Campbell family on the same page: James (20), farmer; Janet >(65), Angus (25), Ag Lab; Ann (15); and tehn Mary (5) Jane >(3) and John (1) possibly McPhee. Does anyone know anything >about them and whether the Christy and Barbara mentioned >could eb the same as that mentioned in the 1861 census. > In the 1841 census you mention Mary (5) Jane (3) and John (1) McPhee could they be the children of John McPhee and Christina Campbell ??? In the 1851 census St. Breadalbane TBR you'll find McPhee John 50 agr labr Ardnamurchan McPhee Chirsty 33 w Ardnamurchan F Campbell McPhee Jean 14 d Ardnamurchan she m's George Robertson Jul 4 1862 TBR M1155491, 0061 McPhee Duncan 8 s Tobermory 1843 McPhee Margaret 4 d Tobermory 1847-Mar 2 1853 IGI TBR C115492, 0624 McPhee Donald 1 s Tobermory 1850- Mar 2 1853 IGI TBR C115492, 0625 1861 Argyll Terrace TBR McPhee Cirsty 50 Head Pauper Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 widow Campbell husb John McPhee Peggy 15 Dau Scholar Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 unm McPhee Donald 16 Son Scholar Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 unm McPhee John 11 Son Scholar Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 unm McGilvray Mary 23 Dau McPhee Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 Mar husb John m Jan 11 1859 TBR M115491, 0026 McGilvray John 1 Grand Son Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 unm So any thought who the Janet Campbell (65) might be? later Ida Duncan & Pam McMillan

I have been doing some research on the Ellis Island Site (www.ellisisland.org). Admittedly this has been for Greek relatives. However, the other complexity is the record keeping that takes place when people arrived in new countries and the changes made to their names - sometimes as a result of the person taking down the record being unfamiliar with the name, place, etc and other times with them determining that the Greek form of the name was actually an English name (eg Georgios became George) !!! Another issue is that when people, who are not literate in their own language ,are asked questions, they could answer with the 'wrong' answer - eg place of birth, date of birth, place of residence, father's name, mother's maiden name etc. In PNG dates of birth are so irrelevant - that the question for 'how old are you?' is 'Hamas kristmas bilong yu? And even then - it is an estimate for many people. Birth certificates are a new form of documentation. In Greece, the date of brth could be the date of the actual birth of the date that the person's birth was registered. Yet another issue is the transcribing of the handwritten records - I have noted that there are sometimes changes in ages from one record to another and it is clear that the handwritten age is perhaps 23 - and is then transcribed as 21. One wonders how that takes place - but if this is all done in bulk - then there will always be human error. It requires an open mind and a preparedness to search beyond the predictable records. In my early stages of this hobby - I was obsessed by spelling of a name and did not realise that there would be variations on the spelling over time and even within the one generation and the issue about the spelling of Mac and Mc is a case in point. We have relatives whose names are Broggreff and there are more spellings of that name than you can imagine. Many challenges, Regards to all and all the best for 2007, Libby McMillan

Thanks June, Just means we have to make an effort to do it ourselves by the sound of it! Jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of June Ridgeway Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2007 11:36 AM To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Transcriptions Just received this from another site to which I belong. "Hi all, just thought I would mention I received a newsletter from a another Family History Society, they mentioned that Ancestry. com had outsourced the transcriptions of the censuses to Bangladesh (you know the people who can hardly understand you when you call ) and apparently had decided to move the transcriptions to Bejing!!" As if our ancestors arn't confusing enough!!!! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving  check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

As one who has spent many hours transcribing the census records and currently the OPR films, I could not agree more with Libby's observations. Census records cannot be taken as gospel (sorry folks) as there are just to many errors when one set of records are matched against another. Names, ages, place of birth, individuals in a household, etc just don't tie up. When one combines the misunderstanding of questions, the incorrect recording of the replies, any hearing problems that the enumerator might have, the inability of anyone in the household to read the recorded details and so make immediate corrections, omissions, rounding of ages (up and down) and then the transcribing errors made on recording the sometimes almost illegible writing (yes I know that I will have made some), caution is needed when using such records. I would like to think that my transcriptions might be a little more accurate as I do at least have some knowledge of the area and therefore can make out names, places, etc that would defeat others but you will still find a fair number of asterisks in the census transcriptions where I have not been able to make out the writing. Whilst on this topic, one of the things that surprised me when tracing families through the various census records are the number of families 'missing' from one census i.e. there are there in 1861 and 1881 but not on the island in 1871. I am talking whole families, not one or two individuals from a family. It is reasonable to expect a number of families to leave the island and then return but the numbers are far greater than I would have expected taking account of the difficulties of transporting a whole family at that time. Is this therefore another reason to doubt the accuracy of the census taking. Food for thought! Ian -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Just received this from another site to which I belong. "Hi all, just thought I would mention I received a newsletter from a another Family History Society, they mentioned that Ancestry. com had outsourced the transcriptions of the censuses to Bangladesh (you know the people who can hardly understand you when you call ) and apparently had decided to move the transcriptions to Bejing!!" As if our ancestors arn't confusing enough!!!! _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com

Hi folks, Does anyone have any information about this child? Her name was Jessie Vass b 19/05/1869. She was the illigitimate daughter of Christina Vass( b 1849). I have her birth cert. and she is shown in the house of William Vass and Jane Livingston on the 1871 census - then she vanishes and I can't find any further trace of her. She particularly interests me because I believe my mother was named after her as there are no other Jessie's anywhere in my family. Thanks, June. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/

Hi. Sorry - I checked my database and all I have is her mention on the 1871 census. I would be interested in the details from her birth cert. though and I'll keep an eye out for her in my research and let you know if I find anything out. Linda Linda (MacCormick) Towne -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of June Ridgeway Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 6:13 PM To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Lost Child Hi folks, Does anyone have any information about this child? Her name was Jessie Vass b 19/05/1869. She was the illigitimate daughter of Christina Vass( b 1849). I have her birth cert. and she is shown in the house of William Vass and Jane Livingston on the 1871 census - then she vanishes and I can't find any further trace of her. She particularly interests me because I believe my mother was named after her as there are no other Jessie's anywhere in my family. Thanks, June. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam I did a bit more digging on the possible children of John McPhee & Christina Campbell who m Feb 10 1835 Ardnamurchan A457923, 0546 also Aharacle M115055, 0179 which fits with the following Mary chrst Aharacle C115055, 0965 Feb 18 1836 Jane chrst Aharacle C115055, 1012 Mar 31 1838 John chrst TBR 7005126, 80 & C115492, 0332 Oct/Nov 26 1839 later Ida

Hi Pam I'm not sure if this will help or not. The McPhee information seems to be similar but I can't prove anything here. Duncan & Pam McMillan wrote: > >Checking back through possible entries for Barbara in the >1841 census brought up C1841_549_00_001_000_2_005Z.TIF for >Tobermory which shows a Barbara Campbell of the correct age >(10) staying in Ardmore with Mary McKinnon , farmer, 50; >Dugald McKinnon 35; and Chirsty McKinnon aged 30 (about the >correct age to be Barbara's mother). I note that there is a >Campbell family on the same page: James (20), farmer; Janet >(65), Angus (25), Ag Lab; Ann (15); and tehn Mary (5) Jane >(3) and John (1) possibly McPhee. Does anyone know anything >about them and whether the Christy and Barbara mentioned >could eb the same as that mentioned in the 1861 census. > In the 1841 census you mention Mary (5) Jane (3) and John (1) McPhee could they be the children of John McPhee and Christina Campbell ??? In the 1851 census St. Breadalbane TBR you'll find McPhee John 50 agr labr Ardnamurchan McPhee Chirsty 33 w Ardnamurchan F Campbell McPhee Jean 14 d Ardnamurchan she m's George Robertson Jul 4 1862 TBR M1155491, 0061 McPhee Duncan 8 s Tobermory 1843 McPhee Margaret 4 d Tobermory 1847-Mar 2 1853 IGI TBR C115492, 0624 McPhee Donald 1 s Tobermory 1850- Mar 2 1853 IGI TBR C115492, 0625 1861 Argyll Terrace TBR McPhee Cirsty 50 Head Pauper Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 widow Campbell husb John McPhee Peggy 15 Dau Scholar Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 unm McPhee Donald 16 Son Scholar Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 unm McPhee John 11 Son Scholar Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 unm McGilvray Mary 23 Dau McPhee Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 Mar husb John m Jan 11 1859 TBR M115491, 0026 McGilvray John 1 Grand Son Argyll Ardnamurchan 3 unm So any thought who the Janet Campbell (65) might be? later Ida

Well, I don't know about everyone else, but for me it is a mixture of holidays and having less people around to do the work so I working longer hours. It's also a bit hectic here with exam results and children finalising university entrance etc. However, now I have grasped a few moments, if anyone has anything they can add to the following it would eb appreciated. I am trying to trace back to a set of ggg grandparents. Their daughter (and I don't know if they had other children) died in 1906 in Glasgow. Her death entry says that she was 74 years old when she died and that her parents were Alistair Campbell, Captain (91st Foot)(deceased) and Christina Campbell m.s. McKinnon (deceased). She was married to Robert Campbell,a nd I am very grateful to another member of the list, Julia, for the amazing information that she has shared with me about Robert's line, and about Robert and Barbara and their children etc once married. It is possible to trace census entries for Barbara readily back to 1851 (all in Glasgow)and from them it is possible to glean that Barbara was born on the Island of Mull in about 1831, and one of the entries states that she was born in Tobermory. The 1861 census entry for Barabara and Robert and their family includes an entry for Christina McKinnon, mother-in-law aged 64 which ties in with Barbara's death entry. I have tried a number of approaches within scotlandspeople to finding the death entry for Christina Campbell/McKinnon without success and am now considering getting help on the ground in Scotland. Is there a forum for sharing information on Scotlandspeople index searches, as I ahve a fair amount of index information as well as images that are not for the correct person (when I get time I will make the image information available)? Checking back through possible entries for Barbara in the 1841 census brought up C1841_549_00_001_000_2_005Z.TIF for Tobermory which shows a Barbara Campbell of the correct age (10) staying in Ardmore with Mary McKinnon , farmer, 50; Dugald McKinnon 35; and Chirsty McKinnon aged 30 (about the correct age to be Barbara's mother). I note that there is a Campbell family on the same page: James (20), farmer; Janet (65), Angus (25), Ag Lab; Ann (15); and tehn Mary (5) Jane (3) and John (1) possibly McPhee. Does anyone know anything about them and whether the Christy and Barbara mentioned could eb the same as that mentioned in the 1861 census. So far, I have not been able to find any likely birth or marriage records for Barbara, Alistair/Alexander or Christina/Christy, Chirsty etc. On the Alistair Campbell side, I am presently looking through the officer records of the 91st Foot but I have not found any obvious entries, even assuming that he was probably called Alexander, and am beginning to wonder if he was a Captain in the 91st, although some more film from the LDS has just arrived, so I might be lucky this time! If anyone has any additional insight/information, it would be greatly appreciated. Best Wishes from the temperate climes of New Zealand. Duncan P.S. thanks Ian and evryone else for this great list. Duncan & Pam McMillan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Campbell" <brainiac@nbnet.nb.ca> To: <CAMPBELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:15 AM Subject: [Campbell] Hebridean Campbell lines... > > It's been some time since any Campbell-L mail has appeared on my monitor's > screen. Does this reflect a slow period, or might I somehow have been cut > off from the list? > > Recently, I was able to break through one of my brick walls in my Campbell > family research, and push back my family tree an additional four > generations to the Outer Hebridean Island of Barra, and beyond that to the > Inner Hebridean Island of Skye, and only perhaps, to Uist. > > Are there any Campbell researchers on this list who have connections with > the Hebrides? I'm interested in discovering if we might have ancestors in > common, something of the Campbell Hebridean connections, and even > something of the history of the Hebridean Islands themselves. > > My earliest connection, thus far, is one John Campbell, a resident of the > Isle of Skye. Family tradition, which is scanty at this point, suggest > that he had about seven children, including at least one daughter. John's > line was Catholic, and I believe, Jacobite supporters in the '45. > > At least two of John's sons, a daughter, and possibly others, departed > Skye which at this point had become hostile to Catholic Highlanders, for > Barra which was predominantly Catholic. Among them were Colin, Hector > [b.1777], and Duncan the Piper [b.1781]. I descend from Duncan's line. > > Hector and Duncan emigrated from Barra with their wives and families > around 1806 for Nova Scotia where the two families eventually settled in > the Red Islands District along the Bras D'Or Lakes in Cape Breton. Hector > was married to a MacMullen, and Duncan to a Mary MacInnes. > > Purportedly, a sister also emigrated; first to Nova Scotia and eventually > to the US. Similarly, two other brothers emigrated to Upper Canada > [Ontario] before moving on. > > I'd love to hear from anybody with connections in the Hebrides. > > Yours, aye > > Mike Campbell > _______________________________________ > > Remember to search the archives use this address > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CAMPBELL > > Browse the archives at > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/CAMPBELL/ > > Contact the List Manager > mailto:campbell-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CAMPBELL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message