Ida: > > David Dobson also has numerous books available search > http://www.genealogical.com/search.cfm?View=All&string=Author&input=Dobson > emigration 1700-1900 hopefully the link is good still. > > Years ago I borrowed his books through inter library loan as well. Ida: FYI Many of Dobson's books are searchable and viewable on Ancestry thru their card catalog. Probably subscription to publication section required. ecunningham@att.net

Hi Annie My scanner isn't working but i'll get my brother to scan it for me at the weekend and i'll send it to you Iain > Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:55:45 -0800> From: CEITSPLACE@shaw.ca> To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Bella Rose Cottage salen Mull> > Iian,> Could you sent the picture of Burnside? I have MacDonald's that once had an > address at Burnside. Perhaps this is it??? (hopefully)> Catherine> Victoria BC Canada> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "iain king" <h1king@hotmail.com>> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:29 AM> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Bella Rose Cottage salen Mull> > > > Hi Annie I know Rose cottage in Salen. My Grandmother and Grandfather > > lived in "Glenstrae" which is about 50 yards from Rose Cottage I visited > > them regularly in the 50's and 60's I have a postcard which shows the edge > > of the cottage and you can see all of Burnside which is the cottage next > > door. I stillgo to Mullregularly, indeed i am just back from Mull > > yesterday. If you want to e-mail me i can hopefully give you more detail.> > > > Iain> >> >> >> >> From: kip@kip-annie.fsnet.co.uk> To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: > >> Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:58:50 +0000> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Bella Rose > >> Cottage salen Mull> > > Hi> > I am researching my family and I believe my > >> Great aunt Bella lived in Rose cottage, Salen. Certainly when we visited > >> in 1957/8 when I was about 9 years old I think that was the name of the > >> cottge. The sea lapped at the bottom of the garden and we collected milk > >> in jugs from the churns. Bella's sister, Elizabeth - Bessie - was my > >> mother's mother. The surname was Lowe. Could you help me find out more ? > >> We re hoping to visit in the summer> > Annie Beighton> > >> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > >> send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > >> message> > _________________________________________________________________> > Get connected - Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live > > Messenger now.> > http://get.live.com/messenger/overview> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get connected - Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live Messenger now. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview

Thank you Iain, that would be lovely. Catherine Victoria BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "iain king" <h1king@hotmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Bella Rose Cottage salen Mull > Hi Annie My scanner isn't working but i'll get my brother to scan it for > me at the weekend and i'll send it to you Iain > >> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:55:45 -0800> From: CEITSPLACE@shaw.ca> To: >> sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Bella Rose >> Cottage salen Mull> > Iian,> Could you sent the picture of Burnside? I >> have MacDonald's that once had an > address at Burnside. Perhaps this is >> it??? (hopefully)> Catherine> Victoria BC Canada> ----- Original >> Message ----- > From: "iain king" <h1king@hotmail.com>> To: >> <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:29 AM> >> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Bella Rose Cottage salen Mull> > > > Hi >> Annie I know Rose cottage in Salen. My Grandmother and Grandfather > > >> lived in "Glenstrae" which is about 50 yards from Rose Cottage I visited >> > > them regularly in the 50's and 60's I have a postcard which shows the >> edge > > of the cottage and you can see all of Burnside which is the >> cottage next > > door. I stillgo to Mullregularly, indeed i am just back >> from Mull > > yesterday. If you want to e-mail me i can hopefully give >> you ! > more detail.> > > > Iain> >> >> >> >> From: kip@kip-annie.fsnet.co.uk> To: > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: > >> Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:58:50 +0000> > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Bella Rose > >> Cottage salen Mull> > > Hi> > I > am researching my family and I believe my > >> Great aunt Bella lived in > Rose cottage, Salen. Certainly when we visited > >> in 1957/8 when I was > about 9 years old I think that was the name of the > >> cottge. The sea > lapped at the bottom of the garden and we collected milk > >> in jugs from > the churns. Bella's sister, Elizabeth - Bessie - was my > >> mother's > mother. The surname was Lowe. Could you help me find out more ? > >> We re > hoping to visit in the summer> > Annie Beighton> > >> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > > >> send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > >> > message> > _______________________________________! > __________________________> > Get connected - Use your Hotmail address > to sign into Windows Live > > Messenger now.> > > http://get.live.com/messenger/overview> >> > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message> > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from > the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Get connected - Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live > Messenger now. > http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Moira wrote: >Hi Ian > >Fantasic thanks, amazing what information is around and >gratefully received. > >The OPR birth you have: > >>>1837, Born 16 Jan. bapt. 9 Feb. to Donald Lamont and Mary >Carmichael, Duart a lawful son Duncan Lamont.>> > >It was good to see this additional birth info as there are 2 >marriage OPRs for this couple, both in February 1836, which >confused me. If you found 2 marriages you have probably found the Banns published in the home parishes of both bride and groom, sometimes giving the same date and often not. You may then work out which was 'her' parish and which was 'his'. Sometimes this frinds one announcement in Glasgow and one in Morvern, for example. Anne Maye.

-------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Danny" <dannyk@shoal.net.au> > Thank you to all the ladies who contacted me and want to know more. I > would suggest that you google "Roses of the heart" and that will take > you directly to the program and the pattern for the bonnets [easy]. > > For those who know nought about Australian history, there were tens of > thousands of UK women sent to Australia as convicts, many like my 3 x g. > gran were sent to Hobart Tasmania and spent years in the notorious > women's prison. Irene: Just a special thanks to you for posting this project. Because of this posting, I have been able to track 3xgreat-grandma out of Scotland and into Tasmania. The clincher was the Tasmanian Archives index of all convicts. I knew she had been convicted (received several inches of paper from West Register House), but hadn't been able to trace her past Dundee, and was looking at many days in front of numerous films. Now to just wait the six weeks Tasmania says before I see her files. :( Just goes to prove--READ EVERYTHING. This is not one of my Mull lines, but the posting helped me in another line. BTW, those looking for McLeans, McKinnons, McLeods (to keep this on topic), there are numerous females listed in the convict indexes. Oh, and in case you're wondering, am descended from her 9 yr. old son who was left behind. Am wondering if husband followed her out since I can't find him either unless he married again. Thanks again. E. Cunningham (off to convince someone to make a bonnet!)

Hi Chris, Mary, Ida, Jill & Elaine Chris & Mary Thanks for the Canadian sites and searching tips. I'll certainly try to see what I can find online and via our LDS centre in ChCh. Ida & Jill My records show the first named Mary should read Margaret (m Charles Stuart). Apart from that all other details Ida has are the same (Elizabeth, MARGARET, Donald, Hugh, Alexander, Catherine & MARY). Margaret Carmichael & Charles Stuart had 2 sons born on Mull - Duncan (28/1/1828) & John (6/11/26). I didn't have the info that Elizabeth married a Major Cameron, thanks. This is likely where Dugald Cameron who put info on the IGI is descended from, hope I can find him! Elaine Great finds on John Lamont and most especially Ann Stewart Lamont. Yes, this has to be the right family - the Scottish naming pattern is a real blessing. Thanks to all. Moira

Iian, Could you sent the picture of Burnside? I have MacDonald's that once had an address at Burnside. Perhaps this is it??? (hopefully) Catherine Victoria BC Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "iain king" <h1king@hotmail.com> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Bella Rose Cottage salen Mull > Hi Annie I know Rose cottage in Salen. My Grandmother and Grandfather > lived in "Glenstrae" which is about 50 yards from Rose Cottage I visited > them regularly in the 50's and 60's I have a postcard which shows the edge > of the cottage and you can see all of Burnside which is the cottage next > door. I stillgo to Mullregularly, indeed i am just back from Mull > yesterday. If you want to e-mail me i can hopefully give you more detail. > > Iain > > > >> From: kip@kip-annie.fsnet.co.uk> To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: >> Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:58:50 +0000> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Bella Rose >> Cottage salen Mull> > > Hi> > I am researching my family and I believe my >> Great aunt Bella lived in Rose cottage, Salen. Certainly when we visited >> in 1957/8 when I was about 9 years old I think that was the name of the >> cottge. The sea lapped at the bottom of the garden and we collected milk >> in jugs from the churns. Bella's sister, Elizabeth - Bessie - was my >> mother's mother. The surname was Lowe. Could you help me find out more ? >> We re hoping to visit in the summer> > Annie Beighton> >> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please >> send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message > _________________________________________________________________ > Get connected - Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live > Messenger now. > http://get.live.com/messenger/overview > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sue and others - I'm glad to learn more about obtaining Ontario records; is Ancestry.ca a branch of Ancestry.com? Thanks - karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "sue podolinsky" <skysue@cogeco.ca> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 5:18 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] records on line > To the best of my knowledge B. D & M records for Ontario straight from > archives are free on Ancestry.ca of which I was a member. They are not > copies by anybody they are hooked right in to Archives and you can print > them off on your computer. Sue Podolinsky >

Hi Annie I know Rose cottage in Salen. My Grandmother and Grandfather lived in "Glenstrae" which is about 50 yards from Rose Cottage I visited them regularly in the 50's and 60's I have a postcard which shows the edge of the cottage and you can see all of Burnside which is the cottage next door. I stillgo to Mullregularly, indeed i am just back from Mull yesterday. If you want to e-mail me i can hopefully give you more detail. Iain > From: kip@kip-annie.fsnet.co.uk> To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 16:58:50 +0000> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Bella Rose Cottage salen Mull> > > Hi> > I am researching my family and I believe my Great aunt Bella lived in Rose cottage, Salen. Certainly when we visited in 1957/8 when I was about 9 years old I think that was the name of the cottge. The sea lapped at the bottom of the garden and we collected milk in jugs from the churns. Bella's sister, Elizabeth - Bessie - was my mother's mother. The surname was Lowe. Could you help me find out more ? We re hoping to visit in the summer> > Annie Beighton> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get connected - Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live Messenger now. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview

Hi Mary Thanks for your reply. If I am correct your James McDougall b 18 Apr 1839 in Salen By Tobermory, Argyll, Scotland. I had some McDougalls births logged in Salen around that time. I am keen to know of any McDougal (var Spelling) - mine had McLullich also. I am puting them all on data file as I find them and trying to connect. I so far have 2 siblings for your James above. Did you have anymore info on them? If I find any I will let you know. SMALL WORLD My Maiden name is MORE from Caithness Scotland back to late 1600s. I have just found an Argyll branch of McDougall married a MORE and settled in Caithness, so that really gets confusing now and exciting! Hi Julia. I am sure we are talking same McDougall family but I am working on it. Haven't forgotten. Tricia

Hi Annie, Maybe no connection, but my Dad went to school at Tobermory during WW2 & I have heard him speak of his school headmaster "old Lowe" on many occasions. I wonder if Mr. Lowe was any relative of your's? Mary in Canada >The surname was Lowe.

Hi Jane Welcome to the list. As your having difficulties sending this through to the list. I'll send an abbreviated version to the list for you. I know you'll find relatives with this lot. good luck Ida Jane Vassileiou <janev@blueyonder.co.uk> I just saw your message, and I do know a little about Anne Fletcher b.1810, dau of Lachlan Fletcher & Isabella McColl. She married Neil Campbell, labourer, and had one son, Neil b. about 1836 (dates vary widely). Her husband must have died young, because she then appears in the census of 1841 as a widow, living with relatives till her death in 1893, where she's a pauper. She died at Calgary. The son Neil went to work on the farm at Penmore belonging to Alexander and Janet McColl, in the 1861 census. John McKinnon b.1836 is the firstborn son of Anne's younger sister Sarah/Marion Fletcher and her husband Duncan Mckinnon. I am descended from this couple's fifth son Donald McKinnon. Jane Ida replied: For Duncan McKinnon & Marion/Sally Fletcher I've found the following children in the IGI John Jul 11 1836 Isabel Mar 11 1838 Archibald app 1840 via census Angus abt 1842 via census Donald abt 1848 via census Lachlan Fletcher May 18 1852 Mary Sep 18 1854 Catherine Dec 29 1856 Do you know if they also had a Duncan abt 1848 as in TBR a cleared record in the IGI 5012613, 19 but just as Duncan McKinnon/Sally Ida Jane Vassileiou" <janev@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote > Yes, I saw the entry for Duncan and Sarah/Sally/Marion's child Duncan > born in 1848 and I suppose he died in infancy. They also had another > child Duncan born in 1861, but he died in 1862. > > Jane Ida Wrote: additional child Duncan McKinnon Apr 25 1861 TBR C115491, 0267

Hi Sue is right. The Ontario BMD's are online on Ancestry. Once in a while they will have a free week or a few days, but other than that you have to buy a subscription. I decided to give myself a Christmas present and took the year. The current price is 299.00 American. I have been collecting McKinnon BMD's in Ontario for years now, but that involves going to the LDS in Brampton. This way I can work in my own time: which tends to be closer to midnight than mid afternoon. The main problem is the interpretation of names..although it's not nearly as bad as the LDS version of the 1881 Canadian census. I was especially interested in the Lamonts as there are a number of McKinnon/Lamont connections. I will try and pull off any Mull related items I see over the next few months. Elaine Georgetown Ontario Looking for McKinnons in Ontario in Brampton ----- Original Message ----- From: "sue podolinsky" <skysue@cogeco.ca> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 6:18 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] records on line > To the best of my knowledge B. D & M records for Ontario straight > from archives are free on Ancestry.ca of which I was a member. They > are not copies by anybody they are hooked right in to Archives and > you can print them off on your computer. Sue Podolinsky > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Lanark County is just west of Ottawa: county town is Perth. The following list Mull as their birthplace. Flora CAMPBELL died Mar 20 1917 Lanark Village age 94 widowed parents Duncan CURRIE and Margaret MCPHAIL informant R BEATTY buried Owen Sound Alexander FERGUSON d. May 1 1893 N. Sherbrooke Twp. age 93 inf. Donald FERGUSON son N. Sherbrooke Flora MCFARLANE Mar 15 1874 Ramsay Twp. wife of Neil MCQUARRIE age 83 yrs farmer's wife inf. John MCQUARRIE of Ramsay Alexander MCFARLANE Nov 30 1875 Dalhousie Twp age 80 inf. Mrs MCFARLANE Catherine MCLEAN Nov 20 1880 Dalhousie Twp age 89 farmer's widow inf Allan MCLEAN farmer Dalhousie Twp Laughlan MCLEAN Apr 27 1872 Ramsay Twp age 93 inf. James MCLEAN village of Almonte Neil MCQUARRIE Mar 24 1881 Ramsay Twp age 90 farmer inf John MCQUARRIE farmer Ramsay Twp Catherine RICHARDS Feb 8 1899 Dalhousie Twp age 81 farmer's wife Lot 14 Con 10 Additional info on these people welcome. You can see the difference in information gathered in 1917 and that for the deaths in the 1800's. That's all for Lanark. Elaine Georgetown Ontario Looking for McKinnons in Ontario

The age in the censuses would seem to confirm that it is the second Mary (b/c 15 April 1815) who married Donald Lamont and emigrated to Canada. So, either the first Mary died or perhaps her name should be Margaret. Can Moira check her NZ sources. Cheers, Jill

Dear Ida et al I believe Elizabeth Carmichael born 27 Oct 1803 married a Major Cameron. I don't have any Margaret as child of Duncan Carmichael and Ann Stewart. Cheers, Jill

Hi Ian Fantasic thanks, amazing what information is around and gratefully received. The OPR birth you have: >>1837, Born 16 Jan. bapt. 9 Feb. to Donald Lamont and Mary Carmichael, Duart a lawful son Duncan Lamont.>> It was good to see this additional birth info as there are 2 marriage OPRs for this couple, both in February 1836, which confused me. I thought at first they were two couples with the same name but now I realise one entry just says Donald Lamont, Duart, and the other says Donald Lamont from the Parish of Torosay. Both have Mary Carmichael, Bunessan (correct). So I think for some reason their entry was duplicated. However to satisfy myself completely I need to get Mary Carmichael & Donald Lamont's death certificates which I hope shows parents' names. I've also got Lamont in my ancestry so am equally curious to find out which Lamont branch Donald was from. I hope Elaine or the Canadian listers can tell me how to go about this. Your census info has this couple both still alive in 1861 which will help to narrow down the timeframe. Thanks again for the generous help given by you and Elaine. Best wishes Moira

Hi Carol Sir Walter Scott is supposed to have a Campbell ancestor and I have seen a Walter Scott married to a Mary Campbell on an IGI CD but no dates, and Walter not “Sir”. I don’t know if the following will be of any help as there is a Carsiag on the mainland of Argyll near Tayvallich. In the Clan Campbell Sherriff Court Books of Argyll, Vol 1 (Pub 1913): 1723, October 28th – Discharge by Ronald Campbell, merchant lately of Bardavaran, now in Barmore, in favour of Archibald Campbell of Carsaig, his father in law, for 1,000 merks, contained in the contract of Marriage between the said Ronald Campbell, and Mary Campbell, lawful daughter of the said Archibald, dated 13th and 27thApril 1715, being the tocher payable to him. The Discharge dated at Tarbet 10th February 1718. The first and only Campbell of Carsaig named in G Harvey Johnson's Heraldry of The Campbells (Pub 1921),is Daniel (son of Archibald Campbell of Strondour and Margaret McNeil of Creas, will recorded 4th June 1723) who married Janet daughter of Patrick Campbell of Kilduskland. There is no issue given for Daniel and Janet. Daniel had a younger brother Alexander but a note says he only had daughters, no names. This is erected over the remains of ARCHIBALD CAMPBELL OF STRONDOUR who died on Novr ye 13th 1719 in the 42nd year of his age, by the direction of DANIEL CAMPBELL OF CARSAIG and ALEXANDER CAMPBELL JUNR Mercht in Glasgow, his sons 1748. HYPERLINK "http://www.knapdalepeople.com/MICarsaig.html"http://www.knapdalepeople.com/ MICarsaig.html Colonsay in 1793 - 1st Statistical Account can be found on the following website HYPERLINK "http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hotel/old1/cornb28.html"http://www.users. globalnet.co.uk/~hotel/old1/cornb28.html Also try HYPERLINK "http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/15162"http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/15162 The site below gives a lot of Campbell burials in Carsaig HYPERLINK "http://www.knapdalepeople.com/MISurnameAtoC.html"http://www.knapdalepeople. com/MISurnameAtoC.html Good Luck Barbara "Campbell of Carsaig (Duke of Argyle) married ?? She is buried in Ram's Horn Churchyard in Glasgow about 1820. He had two sisters Jessie and Elizabeth. Campbell and also had two children. 1. Mary Campbell who married her brother's tutor, Patrick McRuer of Doon. He was a student at University of Glasgow of which Campbell was president. ( I have checked with the University and they have no record of Campbell as president but have a Patricius McRuer as a student in 1778). Mary and Patrick (his name is also quoted as Peter M. McRuer) had 12 children. He was a minister at Jura and Colonsay. Afterwards moved to Greenock where they both died. He was buried there about 1787. She died and is buried in Carsaig, aged 40 years about 1785. 2. Daniel Campbell, only son of Campbell of Carsaig, was a very extravagant man and ran through the property, so Carsaig had to be sold. Daniel never married. The two sisters of Campbell had their share (of Carsaig) and lived on it. The aunts were buried at Ram's Horn Churchyard about 1868." Later these notes also state that Sir Walter Scott was a cousin of Mary Campbell. Any help or information would be appreciated so that I can prove or disprove these notes. Carol -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.12/654 - Release Date: 27/01/2007 5:02 PM

Hi Elaine Marvellous thank you, you've really sparked my interest. I had a look at the OPRs and found Duncan Lamont's birth on 9/2/1837 (Torosay & Kinlochspelvie) & Ann's birth on 19/2/1841 (Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon) but nothing for Daniel. Could you tell me how I can go about getting death certificates from Canada - is there an online service like Scotlandspeople that has BDM & census records? There are Carmichael descendants of this family living in New Zealand who I know will be very interested in this. Two of Mary's siblings came to NZ - her sister Margaret Carmichel who married Charles Stuart (Stewart), and her brother, Alexander's widow, Mary Macdougall came here in 1863 with 7 of their 10 children after Alexander's death (restrictions on how many children you could bring I believe). Thanks again for all the information you've given. Best wishes Moira Christchurch, NZ

Barbara, Thank you very much for your response to my query. Carol