Linda et al Also: Hon. John Donald Maclean son of Donald Maclean of Eyre and Flora Martin Nicolson - Macleans of Boreray, p68-70 . went to Australia in 1837 with his sister Marion and her husband (John Maclean settled Glen Alice, NSW so John Maclean and Martha.) . high intellect, sheep rancher, "builder of Australia", "shepherd King" . Leader of finance in QLD, Colonial Treasurer of QLD . Member of Legislative Assembly . Resided Westerbrook, Darling Downs and Quiraing, Sydney m. 1855 St Phillips, Sydney, NSW, AUS ref 1855/V1855548/43B CoE NSW Mary A E Strutt, dau of Dr Strutt - Macleans of Boreray p68 jay jean whimp wrote: > To add to the information from Linda re the Queensland death below > John Donald McLean died 16 Dec 1866 ref 1867/000136 His parents were > Donald McLean and Flora Nicholson (Qld Pioneer Index) > jean > > from Linda > > Dec. 16 - At Westbrook, Queensland, by an accidental fall from his horse, > aged 46, John Donald Maclean, esq., Colonial Treasurer.

Hi I have a Neil McKinnon married to an Anne who might be a likely candidate for the family David is looking for. 1841 census for Adrchoirk in Torosay has: COLQUHOUN Donald 80 farmer MCKINNON Neil 40 joiner Anne 35 Alexander 12 Ellen 10 Jean 8 John 6 Robert 4 James 1 Elaine Robinson Georgetown Ontario Looking for McKinnons in Ontario and Mull

Hi Angela, Welcome to the list. I agree with Elaine re Victorian Ordnance Survey maps. They are the best 'old' maps today available in print. These are available from Amazon.co.uk and other sources. Victorian Maps of Mull are also available online at http://www.old-maps.co.uk/ For current maps, the Ordnance Survey publish two series but I would recommend the Explorer Series. Mull is covered by numbers 373, 374 and 375. I known the list to which Elaine refers because I used to display the list on the mullgenealogy website together with a map showing the location of the places listed. It originally appeared on the Mull list in around 2001/2 I think. However that list contains only a small fraction of the locations on Mull with all there various spellings. That is why I replaced the list and map with the current location finder on the website. The location database contains over 7,600 entries. Not that there are 7,600 locations as some places can be spelt in at least half a dozen different ways. I am still adding to this database as I come across new locations and different spellings. If it's any consolation I have transcribed all of the Mull OPR's and I could not make out all of the placenames. I'm currently adding the transcriptions to the records displayed under the 'Surname Index' tab on the website so there is a chance that your family are already there with what I think is the placename. Please check there first and if your family is not listed, send me their names and I will check my transcriptions from which I will hopefully be able to give you the location. I agree that most of the writing is terrible. Hope this helps, Ian webmaster www.mullgenealogy.co.uk

I wish to clarify the info on my previous E Mail about the new Data Bases at FHCs. If you go to www.familysearch.org , click on NEWS and then on 'More Web Site Services' 25 May 2007 This will explain which web sites will be free at FHCs,you have to pay to access these sites on your own computer. The second link I gave was ..'Free Website Access to U.S. and British Records & Information' This is a list provided by Family Search of what's free on the Internet. This is not connected to the new data bases. Sorry about the confusion, Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada.

Ian Wrote: Hi Tricia, Tracing those listed in the 1779 Duke of Argyll 'census' is difficult because of the large time span until the next, and first true, census in 1841. Your Neil would have been 74 in 1841 at which age most would have died. >> I note also McPhail on this farm so a later marriage to an Effy McPhail !!!! Locations in the 1779 appear to over a fair sized area. The whole of Tobermory appears as an entry for Baliscate. It's therefore likely that your McPhail's could have been some distance from the McLachlan's and McCallum's. >> Are the women listed anywhere in 1779??? In a word, 'No'. In some (few) parts of the 1779 women are listed so the recording obviously came down to the enumerator. There are very few women recorded in the Mull parts of the census. Ian Thanks Ian for the reply - it helps clarify some points. Neil however was listed as 70 in 1841 so still a possibility - but only that :( Tricia

Hi Ian Thanks for reminding me to look at your Mull site. I am basically a "paper person" and forget to use all the things that are out there. You do an amazing job. Elaine Georgetown Ontario Looking for McKinnons in Ontario and Mull ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Phillips" <ian.phillips@ukonline.co.uk> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] SOME MULL BAP/ MARRIAGES DEATHS PART 1 > > I known the list to which Elaine refers because I used to display > the > list on the mullgenealogy website together with a map showing the > location of the places listed. It originally appeared on the Mull > list > in around 2001/2 I think. > >

Hi Have you looked at Ian's old map at http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ian.phillips/mull/location_map.htm There's also a gazetteer at http://web.ncf.ca/cv297/mullgaz.html and Ian's location index http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ian.phillips/mull/ Tirgoil is correct, as is Suie. Shieha = Shiaba. Ardm..ach = Ardmeanach. Sars..chain = perhaps Saorphein? Tirengain = Tirergain aka Tir Fhearagain Fingfort = Fionnphort? Remember, though, that in old docs spelling is often inconsistent. I hope some of this helps, Janet > Hi There > I'm a 'newer' member with an interest in the McFadyen families. I have > been > 'lurking in the background' whilst going about my research. Can anyone > reccomend a good detailed map of Mull ?> <... if anyone can correct any of > these place names please let me know. The writing really is terrible !>

Hi Tricia, Tracing those listed in the 1779 Duke of Argyll 'census' is difficult because of the large time span until the next, and first true, census in 1841. Your Neil would have been 74 in 1841 at which age most would have died. >> I note also McPhail on this farm so a later marriage to an Effy McPhail !!!! Locations in the 1779 appear to over a fair sized area. The whole of Tobermory appears as an entry for Baliscate. It's therefore likely that your McPhail's could have been some distance from the McLachlan's and McCallum's. >> Are the women listed anywhere in 1779??? In a word, 'No'. In some (few) parts of the 1779 women are listed so the recording obviously came down to the enumerator. There are very few women recorded in the Mull parts of the census. Ian

Hi, I'm a brand new member to your site and hope to be able to learn and contribute a bit here! My first post is in regard to the McLachlans' of Mull. I have an 1841 Mull census that lists Mary McLachlan 40, Janet McLachlan, 15, Donald McLachlan 15 and John McLachlan 14 as living at house #65 at Portmore Tobermory. This are the same names and approximate ages as ancestors that arrived in Prince Edward Island in 1843. Right down to the absence of a father/husband. Would anyone have any information on this family or any guidance on where on could look in order to find more? Secondly I have an Archibald McLachlan born and baptised in Baliscate K&K Parish, Mull in 1792/93 to Catherine McPhail and John McLachlan. John is listed as a workman in Aros in 1779 all Church of Scotland. If anyone has information on this fellow and his family, or potential research leads it would be greatly appreciated. As soon as I gather my information in regard to my McPhail, McPherson, Murray ancestors on Mull I'll post that as well. Thanks for your time. Kelly McLaughlin Alberta, Canada --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!

To add to the information from Linda re the Queensland death below John Donald McLean died 16 Dec 1866 ref 1867/000136 His parents were Donald McLean and Flora Nicholson (Qld Pioneer Index) jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Thomas W Bennion Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2007 1:24 AM To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] The Gentleman's Magazine Notices Have come across a few births/deaths/marriages in "The Gentleman's Magazine" and was wondering if anyone on the list can help me identify the individuals. 1. From Vol. V - January - June 1836, p. 209 - Death's - Nov. 14 - At Dublin, the Rev. Samuel John Maclean, Fellow of Trinity College. He was a native of Belfast, and educated at the Institution in that town. From then he removed to the Dublin University and obtained several of its highest honours in his undergraduate course. He united to study of polite literature to the severer pursuits of science, and his lectures were remarkable for copious and rich illustrations. His acuteness as a metaphysician pointed him out as a fit examiner in the new moderatorship course, Logics and Ethics; and his public list of questions prove that the choice was a good one. 2. From Vol. XCI, part II, July - Dec. 1821, p. 573 - Death's - Nov. 27 - At Dover (where she arrived from Canada, on her way to France, for the beneift of her health), aged 19, Euphemia, wife of George Maclean, Deputy Assist. Commissary General. 3. From Vol. III, January - June 1867, p. 392 - Death's - Dec. 12 - At the Royal Observatory, Cape of Good Hope, aged 37, Ellen, daughter of Sir Thomas Maclean, Knt. Dec. 16 - At Westbrook, Queensland, by an accidental fall from his horse, aged 46, John Donald Maclean, esq., Colonial Treasurer. 4. Vol. XIL, January - June 1862, p. 218 - Birth's - Jan. 5 - At Brighton, the wife of Capt. J. N. Maclean, 7th Madras Light Cavalry, a daughter. 5. Vol. XIII, January - June 1840, p. 646 - Marriage's - April 23 - At Greenwich, the Rev. Hippesley {sic} Maclean, of Covantry, to Charlotte, daughter of Richard Smith, Esq. 6. Vol. LXXXIX, Part II, July - Dec. 1819, p. 88 - Death's - Oct. 20, 1818 - At Baduia, in Ceylon, of the jungle fever of that island, Captain Archibald Maclean, of HM's 86th Light Infantry. Thanks for any help you can provide. Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jacqueline > Do you have an Alexander McPhail in your tree that was > born ABT 1791 who married Catherine McDonald in Torosay > 1812 and then came to Canada about 1820/21. > Thank you > Jacqueline in Nova Scotia Think I can speak for Bob here in that we don't have an Alexander McPhail & Catherine McDonald, as I know this couple are from Chris MacPhail's line too. Chris and I feel there is a connection as our families were living at Glenbyre at the same time. It's just finding a confirming link that's proving elusive. Best wishes Moira

Hi Tricia > If, in your research, you ever comes across a Henrietta > or Effie McPhail b c 1760s -1780s please let me know. > I note an Effie was bapt 1791 Kilninian & Kilmore to > Archibald McPhail and Marion MacPherson Yes, will let you know if a Henrietta/Effie MacPhail appears in our line. Interesting Effie comes from another MacPhail/MacPherson marriage. I have two other MacPhail/MacPherson marriages: Donald MacPherson 1781 m. Catherine MacPhail 1779 & John Malcolm MacPhail m Mary Ann MacPherson - both 1800s. I haven't found a connection with these families myself but a descendant lives in Salen. Best wishes Moira

Hi There I'm a 'newer' member with an interest in the McFadyen families. I have been 'lurking in the background' whilst going about my research. Can anyone reccomend a good detailed map of Mull ? I have been transcribing some OPR data and the writing is atrocious. My knowledge of the Island isn't as good as I'd like . Therefore bearing this in mind if anyone can correct any of these place names please let me know. The writing really is terrible ! Death Cert - Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon 2 Dec 1882 Angus McFADYEN (Crofter) age 83 widow of Mary MCKINNON , residence Griburn(?) Father Peter McFADYEN ( deceased Farmer ) / Mother Effie McFADYEN (ms McKINNON) . Cause of death Paralysis (result of old age). Informant Archibald mcFADYEN X his son -------------------------- OPR FILM 542 / 0020 0119 Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon ( Marriages & Bap) 1833 (transcribed in the order they appear) 25 Jan - John McPHAIL tenant (Ardachy) & Jessie McKINNON their dau Marion bap and born 27 Jan - Angus McGILVRAY (Tirgoil?) and Mary LAMONT their lawful son John bap 1 Feb - John McDONALD and Mary BLACK (Ardtun) were married 1 Feb- Donald McDUGALL ( Salen) parish of Torosay and Mary MORRISON (Ardtun) were married 7 Feb - Donald CAMPBELL and Isabella MCLEAN (Ardtun) were married 14 Feb - Angus McKINNON (Ardtun) and Isabella MACLEAN their lawful son (BLANK) bap 17 Feb - Neil MCDONALD ( Shieha?) and Mary McDUGALL their lawful son Coll bap 27 Feb - Neil ROSE (Bunessan) and Ann MCKELLAR ( Scoor) were married 27 Feb - Charles MCEACHERN (Suie?) and Jessie MCDONALD (Island Tyree) were married 14 Feb - Hector CAMPBELL & Catherine FLETCHER their lawful son John bap 18 Feb - Donald MCDONALD shoemaker (Knock ....?) & Peggy McDONALD their daughter Ann Bap 23 Feb - James MCFADEN ( Ardm..ach?) and Ann GRAHAM (Kilpatrick) were married 6 Feb Duncan MCDONALD joiner (Ormsaig?) and Flora MCDONALD their dau Cirsty bap and born 19 Nov 1832 5 March Archibald McLEAN and Catherine MCKINNON (Scoor) their dau Lilian bap 12 March Peter MCGILVRA (Sars..chain?) and Marion MCARTHUR (Tirengain?) were married -------------------- 1860 Deaths Kilfinichen ( very faint ) Hugh MCINNES, 4 Jan 1860 Age 75 (Ardtun) Father Angus MCINNES ( dec Collier ? doesn't look like Crofter) and Ann MCINNES (deceased MS MCDONALD). Cause of death Chronic Bronchitis Burial Ground Fingfort (?) Informant Inspector of Poor Mary MCFARLANE ,23 Jan 1860 , Single Age 41, Bunessan Father Peter MCFARLANE - Crofter , Mother Ann MCFARLANE ms SINCLAIR Cause of Death Phithisis, Burial Churchyard of Glen ... Informant Hugh CAMPBELL ------of house in which death occured Neil MCFADYEN ,24 Feb 1860, Age 86 Pauper Shiaba(?) Father John MCFADYEN dec Crofter , mother Dorothy MCFADYEN ( dec ms MCMILLAN) Cause Old Age. Burial Ground Kilvickeon Informant ------- next neighbour More tomorrow Angela in Australia

I am hoping that this may be my Neil McDougal as a boy. Possible 1779 1779 District No : Page No : 111 House No : Locality : Kilpatrick (Torosay) 17790577 Campbell Archibald 58 Campbell Archibald 17 Campbell Duncan 18 McArthur Charles 60 McArthur John 30 McLulich Donald 48 McLulich Neil 12 McLulich Archibald 4 McLachlan Donald 45 McLachlan John 14 McLachlan Hugh 3 McLachlan Donald 20 McLaren Donald 67 McCallum Duncan 35 McCallum Duncan 12 McCallum Patrick 9 McCallum Dugald 3 McPhail John 30 McPhail Hugh 5 McPhail John 3 Females in the farm 27 I note also McPhail on this farm so a later marriage to an Effy McPhail !!!! Are the women listed anywhere in 1779??? -----Original Message----- From: Tricia Barnett [mailto:Tricia.Barnett@BTInternet.com] Sent: 29 August 2007 12:04 To: 'mmacphail@clear.net.nz'; 'sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McPhail, Effie c 1760-1780 Moira Thanks - hopefully they will link one day; In 1841 this may be EFFIE MACPHAIL family ( I know ages can be wrong in 1841) Piece: SCT1841/545 Place: Kinlochspelvie -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Kinlochspelve Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 7 Page: 10 Address: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MCDOUGALL Neil M 70 Boat Carpenter Argyllshire MCDOUGALL Euphemia F 60 Argyllshire MCDOUGALL Alexander M 15 Argyllshire Until such times as I can visit Mull I have assumed the Neil McDougall and Effie McPhail I am looking for are the couple recorded as Niel McLullich and Effie McPhail who had several children in Torosay including my Duncan McDougall b c 1805. Duncan moved to Laggan INV. His parents name taken from his death cert. And he was born in Torosay. Tricia

I received a phone call from Salt Lake today at my shift at our local FHC...we have been connected to web sites that usually require payment,they are now free at our FHC. As a result of the new set up, FHCs now have access to census and vital records etc...these records are only accessible at you local FHC...check with your local FHC to see if they are linked to it yet. If not ,It's only a phone call away ! This is the URL for info only,you cannot access any records except at you FHC. http://www.fhc.familysearch.org/ These are the collections that will be available ...hope the link comes thru OK. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/home/news/press/Free_Online_Records.pdf Good Luck Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada.

Moira Thanks - hopefully they will link one day; In 1841 this may be EFFIE MACPHAIL family ( I know ages can be wrong in 1841) Piece: SCT1841/545 Place: Kinlochspelvie -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Kinlochspelve Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 7 Page: 10 Address: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MCDOUGALL Neil M 70 Boat Carpenter Argyllshire MCDOUGALL Euphemia F 60 Argyllshire MCDOUGALL Alexander M 15 Argyllshire Until such times as I can visit Mull I have assumed the Neil McDougall and Effie McPhail I am looking for are the couple recorded as Niel McLullich and Effie McPhail who had several children in Torosay including my Duncan McDougall b c 1805. Duncan moved to Laggan INV. His parents name taken from his death cert. And he was born in Torosay. Tricia

Have come across a few births/deaths/marriages in "The Gentleman's Magazine" and was wondering if anyone on the list can help me identify the individuals. 1. From Vol. V - January - June 1836, p. 209 - Death's - Nov. 14 - At Dublin, the Rev. Samuel John Maclean, Fellow of Trinity College. He was a native of Belfast, and educated at the Institution in that town. From then he removed to the Dublin University and obtained several of its highest honours in his undergraduate course. He united to study of polite literature to the severer pursuits of science, and his lectures were remarkable for copious and rich illustrations. His acuteness as a metaphysician pointed him out as a fit examiner in the new moderatorship course, Logics and Ethics; and his public list of questions prove that the choice was a good one. 2. From Vol. XCI, part II, July - Dec. 1821, p. 573 - Death's - Nov. 27 - At Dover (where she arrived from Canada, on her way to France, for the beneift of her health), aged 19, Euphemia, wife of George Maclean, Deputy Assist. Commissary General. 3. From Vol. III, January - June 1867, p. 392 - Death's - Dec. 12 - At the Royal Observatory, Cape of Good Hope, aged 37, Ellen, daughter of Sir Thomas Maclean, Knt. Dec. 16 - At Westbrook, Queensland, by an accidental fall from his horse, aged 46, John Donald Maclean, esq., Colonial Treasurer. 4. Vol. XIL, January - June 1862, p. 218 - Birth's - Jan. 5 - At Brighton, the wife of Capt. J. N. Maclean, 7th Madras Light Cavalry, a daughter. 5. Vol. XIII, January - June 1840, p. 646 - Marriage's - April 23 - At Greenwich, the Rev. Hippesley {sic} Maclean, of Covantry, to Charlotte, daughter of Richard Smith, Esq. 6. Vol. LXXXIX, Part II, July - Dec. 1819, p. 88 - Death's - Oct. 20, 1818 - At Baduia, in Ceylon, of the jungle fever of that island, Captain Archibald Maclean, of HM's 86th Light Infantry. Thanks for any help you can provide. Linda

Hi While on the subject of McPhails and McKinnons, I am trying to find the name of the McKinnon husband of Barbara McKinnon who, in 1841 is in Lephein with Lachlan McKinnon 11 and Margaret McKinnon 8 and in 1851 is a visitor with Alexander and Ann McPhail in Lephein. ..no sign of the children. In 1861 she is alone in Lephein and the census says she is in a private house. At this time the McPhails are in another house in Lephein and this census has Alex McPhail and Barbara McKinnon both born on Morvern. I am supposing she was a McPhail. I can't find her in 1871. I am not related to this McKinnon but it is just part of my on going search for Mull McKinnons. Thanks Elaine Robinson Georgetown Ontario Looking for McKinnons in Ontario and Mull

Hi Ian is probably the expert on this (maps), but I use several things. One is the set of reprints of Victorian Ordnance Survey maps: you need sheets 43, 44, 51, and 52 to cover all of Mull. The second is just a regular tourist map. The third thing which I really couldn't do without is a list of placenames which was on this list a few years ago. It took several emails to cover it all and I think it was sent by Jean Whimp or Jill Dakin. It will be in the Mull list archives , but I'm afraid I don't remember the date..and I only have a hard copy. Maybe someone else saved it on their computer. I really use it constantly....so a big thank you to who ever submitted it. Elaine Robinson Georgetown Ontario Looking for McKinnons in Ontario and Mull ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter & Angela McMurtry" <palmtreeqld@optusnet.com.au> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:12 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] SOME MULL BAP/ MARRIAGES DEATHS PART 1 > Hi There > I'm a 'newer' member with an interest in the McFadyen families. I > have been > 'lurking in the background' whilst going about my research. Can > anyone > reccomend a good detailed map of Mull ? I have been transcribing > some OPR > data and the writing is atrocious. My knowledge of the Island isn't > as good > as I'd like . Therefore bearing this in mind if anyone can correct > any of > these place names please let me know. The writing really is terrible > ! > Angela in Australia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi, There have been 1600 records added since my posting in May. The site now holds: Banns 1658 records Baptism 4467 records Births 18566 records Burial 408 records Deaths 17501 records Marriage 14836 records TOTAL records: 57436 records Happy hunting Sue <http://www.sctbdm.com/> www.sctbdm.com