IDA WROTE: McDougal I don't have many Samuels accounted for. There is however a Samuel b abt 1780 living in Derichullen (sp) TRS who m's Isabel McLean and has John McDougal Aug 12 1798 TRS 7015920, 24 only child I've found for this couple to date. They may have a connection or not. This John McDougall may have married Mary Cameron and has a son Samuel McDougall Aug 15 1810 Morven 7022519, 65 but this is speculation..other children born to this couple Flory May 22 1805, Anne Oct 3 1813, Katherine Jun 1 1816 Hi Ida Thanks for above. Samuel name continues in further generations in my names. He was however 4th born son to Duncan. 1st born being Neil which ties in with Duncan's death cert. John above b 1798 - married with a son in 1810!!!!!!Happy to receive any data. Tricia

Can I throw my Neil into this pot! Neil /MCDOUGAL or MCLULLICH/ He was born c 1760s Married Henrietta Euphemia or Effie MCPHAIL And had several children in Torosay from 1799 - 1823 under the name of McLullich. Later years sees the name then taken on as McDougal MacDougall with my mother being a Margaret MacDougall. I imagine this is him in 1841 Piece: SCT1841/545 Place: Kinlochspelvie -Argyllshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: Kinlochspelve Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 7 Page: 10 Address: - Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MCDOUGALL Neil M 70 Boat Carpenter Argyllshire MCDOUGALL Euphemia F 60 Argyllshire MCDOUGALL Alexander M 15 Argyllshire Their son Duncan b c 1802/5 if my line - he went to Laggan INV . I am keen to try to find the rest of his siblings. The change in surname etc makes it very difficult. For ages I was looking for Henrietta McPhail the found that Euphemia Effie was an alternative name. Maybe McPhail was also wrong. I have put some of my findings on http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=patricia_more&recno=175 It needs updating so don't take it as accurate - complete etc - I have done a fair bit more since then. Happy to exchange Tricia

Hi Sandy I wouldn't think the Mary I mentioned b 1791 would be yours. As your Mary has former residents of Suie Farm on their grave stone. :-( Someday maybe we can piece together the Ross of Mull residents too. Ida Ben Tinck wrote: >Ida > > Just curious. My gr gr grandmother Mary McLucais/McDougald was born in 1793 from what I have seen on her gravestone at the Rocky Cemetary. She could have been born in 1791 who knows. COULD THIS Mary that is mentioned as one of the children of Neil McLucais be my Mary? > > Sandy > > > Hi John > >Thanks for this . Every >tibdit that's shared will help someone fill in a missing blank or two. > >Which brings up an interesting item for our McLucais/McDougall researchers. > >#2 I have Neil McLucais m's Catherine McEachern Feb 6 1783 probably >Kilchrist KLN >the children found are: >Donald Sep 19 1788 KLN >Mary Apr 24 1791 KLN >Archibald Mar 18 1793 KLN >

Hi Tricia Had a peek at your website and noticed you have a Samuel McDougall in your tree.. I don't have many Samuels accounted for. There is however a Samuel b abt 1780 living in Derichullen (sp) TRS who m's Isabel McLean and has John McDougal Aug 12 1798 TRS 7015920, 24 only child I've found for this couple to date. They may have a connection or not. This John McDougall may have married Mary Cameron and has a son Samuel McDougall Aug 15 1810 Morven 7022519, 65 but this is speculation..other children born to this couple Flory May 22 1805, Anne Oct 3 1813, Katherine Jun 1 1816 PS in the census for 1841 Kinlochspelvie I have Neil & Euphemia tagged as your family ;-) Ida Tricia Barnett wrote: > >I have put some of my findings on >http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=patricia_more&recno=175 >It needs updating so don't take it as accurate - complete etc - I have done >a fair bit more since then. >Tricia >

Ida Just curious. My gr gr grandmother Mary McLucais/McDougald was born in 1793 from what I have seen on her gravestone at the Rocky Cemetary. She could have been born in 1791 who knows. COULD THIS Mary that is mentioned as one of the children of Neil McLucais be my Mary? Sandy Hi John Thanks for this . Every tibdit that's shared will help someone fill in a missing blank or two. Which brings up an interesting item for our McLucais/McDougall researchers. These items may be found as other spellings for our researchers. As I collect only data I restrict my surname specifics to the common choices. In my information I have 2 Neil McLucais. #1 I have is Neil McLucais m's ? McEachern Dec 21 1779 Ardamurchan KLN I have found anything additional on them to date :-[ #2 I have Neil McLucais m's Catherine McEachern Feb 6 1783 probably Kilchrist KLN the children found are: Donald Sep 19 1788 KLN Mary Apr 24 1791 KLN Archibald Mar 18 1793 KLN The Duncan (McDougall) you mention below with a birthdate of abt 1793 would fit nicely into the above family :-) Another son for this couple might be Malcolm McLucais <1787-Jan 14 1868 who m's Janet McLean. Janet and her son Donald appear as living close to Duncan in 1871 Penmore KLN. They are buried in the Calgary cemetery under the name of McDougall. Their son Donald could be the informant on Duncan's death certificate. Any thoughts Ida John Beaton wrote: >Thanks Ida > >Re Lachlan McNeill/Mary McGilvra, a lister has now advised me off-list that >this couple married 4 Dec 1781 KLN > >Re Duncan McDougall. Aged 83, so born c1793. His parents were Neil >McDougall, farmer deceased and Catherine nee McKechnie, deceased. The >informant was Donald McDougall, nephew, present > >John Beaton >Brisbane > >------------------------------ > >>Message: 3 >>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:41:26 -0700 >>From: Merle & Ida King >>Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNeil/Campbell >> >> >>When you found Duncan McDougall death certificate Jul 8 1876 Penmore >>were his parents names supplied ? >> >>Ida >> > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Looking for a X-Mas gift? Everybody needs a Flickr Pro Account!

Hi John Thanks for this <I've snipped some of the trailing message>. Every tibdit that's shared will help someone fill in a missing blank or two. Which brings up an interesting item for our McLucais/McDougall researchers. These items may be found as other spellings for our researchers. As I collect only data I restrict my surname specifics to the common choices. In my information I have 2 Neil McLucais. #1 I have is Neil McLucais m's ? McEachern Dec 21 1779 Ardamurchan KLN I have found anything additional on them to date :-[ #2 I have Neil McLucais m's Catherine McEachern Feb 6 1783 probably Kilchrist KLN the children found are: Donald Sep 19 1788 KLN Mary Apr 24 1791 KLN Archibald Mar 18 1793 KLN The Duncan (McDougall) you mention below with a birthdate of abt 1793 would fit nicely into the above family :-) Another son for this couple might be Malcolm McLucais <1787-Jan 14 1868 who m's Janet McLean. Janet and her son Donald appear as living close to Duncan in 1871 Penmore KLN. They are buried in the Calgary cemetery under the name of McDougall. Their son Donald could be the informant on Duncan's death certificate. Any thoughts Ida John Beaton wrote: >Thanks Ida > >Re Lachlan McNeill/Mary McGilvra, a lister has now advised me off-list that >this couple married 4 Dec 1781 KLN > >Re Duncan McDougall. Aged 83, so born c1793. His parents were Neil >McDougall, farmer deceased and Catherine nee McKechnie, deceased. The >informant was Donald McDougall, nephew, present > >John Beaton >Brisbane > >------------------------------ > >>Message: 3 >>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:41:26 -0700 >>From: Merle & Ida King <m_iking@telusplanet.net> >>Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNeil/Campbell >> >> >>When you found Duncan McDougall death certificate Jul 8 1876 Penmore >>were his parents names supplied ? >> >>Ida >> >

Thanks Ida Re Lachlan McNeill/Mary McGilvra, a lister has now advised me off-list that this couple married 4 Dec 1781 KLN Re Duncan McDougall. Aged 83, so born c1793. His parents were Neil McDougall, farmer deceased and Catherine nee McKechnie, deceased. The informant was Donald McDougall, nephew, present John Beaton Brisbane ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:41:26 -0700 > From: Merle & Ida King <m_iking@telusplanet.net> > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNeil/Campbell > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <474EDDA6.7050005@telusplanet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi John > > Thanks for this. Sorry I used my notes that the family emigrated to > Australia. It's there as my reminder someone went to Australia in the > family :-( > > I haven't delved into all the McNeil families on Mull as yet. So I > can't help with Lachlan & Mary McGilvra (sp) family other than Marion > who m's Allan McFadyen. > > When you found Duncan McDougall death certificate Jul 8 1876 Penmore > were his parents names supplied ? > > Re Hugh McGilvra & Mary McNeil I've only found Mary McNeil in 1841 in > Penmore visiting Mary McLucais (sp) wife of Neil Ferguson and in 1861 > Arid of Penmore in b-i-l Duncan McDougall/McLucais/McLucash h/h > > So your Marion McNeil Nov 3 1797 is still a free agent :-) > Ida

The info I had on Marion McNeil and Allan McPhaiden was married 18 Mar 1817; children Lachlan born 10 Dec 1818 Penmore, Archibald born 4 Oct 1823, Donald born about 1825 and died 6 May 1860 in Glasgow and married to a daughter of Archibald McQuarrie. This is why it didn't quite fit in with the normal McNeil names. Jacqueline in N.S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle & Ida King" <m_iking@telusplanet.net> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNeil/Campbell > Hi John > > Thanks for this. Sorry I used my notes that the family emigrated to > Australia. It's there as my reminder someone went to Australia in the > family :-( > > I haven't delved into all the McNeil families on Mull as yet. So I > can't help with Lachlan & Mary McGilvra (sp) family other than Marion > who m's Allan McFadyen. > > When you found Duncan McDougall death certificate Jul 8 1876 Penmore > were his parents names supplied ? > > Re Hugh McGilvra & Mary McNeil I've only found Mary McNeil in 1841 in > Penmore visiting Mary McLucais (sp) wife of Neil Ferguson and in 1861 > Arid of Penmore in b-i-l Duncan McDougall/McLucais/McLucash h/h > > So your Marion McNeil Nov 3 1797 is still a free agent :-) > Ida > > John Beaton wrote: > >>Hi Ida, Jacqueline and others >> >>First, Ida - Just to clarify re Catherine McNeil where you say "family >>travelled to Australia" - I was not suggesting that Catherine and >>Archibald travelled to Australia, in fact I think it quite likely they >>stayed on Mull. What I do know is that their son John Beaton married in >>Auckland NZ in 1843 and their second son Archibald seems to have died in >>Queensland in 1886 (although I know nothing else about him). How or when >>they both emigrated is unknown. >> >>Second regarding Marion. I also found the Allan McPhaiden marriage that >>Jacquline refers to and as Marion would have been 20, I thought it looked >>about right. However two doubts arise. On the original OPR the bride's >>location is C**ig. Only yesterday I asked Ian if he could help in >>deciphering. It could be something like Covig or Cruig or Craig - anyway >>nothing like any location I could see near Caillioch. The other doubt >>arises when you look at her death which I found on ScotlandsPeople under >>the name McFayden on 16 Feb 1872 at Portmore, Tobermory. She is described >>as pauper, widow of late Allan McFayden, seaman. Here her parents are >>given as Lachlan Mac Neill, farmer, deceased and Mary McNeill nee >>McGillvray, deceased. The informant was son John McFayden, shoemaker. >>Portmore, present. Now, of course this could be a typical error you find >>on death certificates where informants take a guess at what they don't >>know, but it seems to be pointing to a totally different fa! > m! >> ily. Does anyone know of a Lachlan McNeill/Mary McGillvray family? This >> would leave 'our' Marion as still a mystery. >> >>Third regarding Janet. Jill Dakin had already pointed me to the likely >>marriage to Duncan McDougall because of the reference to brother-in-law as >>informant in the death of Mary McGilvray. Sure enough I found Duncan's >>death in ScotlandsPeople on 8 July 1876 at Penmore where he is described >>as widower of Janet McNeil. Unfortunately I can find no death of Janet >>McDougall between 1855 and 1876 so she must have died pre-1855 >> >>Fourth regarding Mary and Hugh McGilvra(y). Jean's question whether this >>Hugh could be the person born 1818 seems unlikely as the Mary / Hugh >>marriage would most likely have been around 1810. >>Ida, is there no mention of this family in the 1851 census? >> >>So there we have it. No knowledge at all of Neil and possibly nothing of >>Marion if the McPhaiden marriage is not her. No knowledge of the death of >>Catherine (Beaton) and Janet (McDougall). >> >>Would love to hear your thoughts. >> >>John Beaton >>Brisbane >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ida, Jacqueline and others First, Ida - Just to clarify re Catherine McNeil where you say "family travelled to Australia" - I was not suggesting that Catherine and Archibald travelled to Australia, in fact I think it quite likely they stayed on Mull. What I do know is that their son John Beaton married in Auckland NZ in 1843 and their second son Archibald seems to have died in Queensland in 1886 (although I know nothing else about him). How or when they both emigrated is unknown. Second regarding Marion. I also found the Allan McPhaiden marriage that Jacquline refers to and as Marion would have been 20, I thought it looked about right. However two doubts arise. On the original OPR the bride's location is C**ig. Only yesterday I asked Ian if he could help in deciphering. It could be something like Covig or Cruig or Craig - anyway nothing like any location I could see near Caillioch. The other doubt arises when you look at her death which I found on ScotlandsPeople under the name McFayden on 16 Feb 1872 at Portmore, Tobermory. She is described as pauper, widow of late Allan McFayden, seaman. Here her parents are given as Lachlan Mac Neill, farmer, deceased and Mary McNeill nee McGillvray, deceased. The informant was son John McFayden, shoemaker. Portmore, present. Now, of course this could be a typical error you find on death certificates where informants take a guess at what they don't know, but it seems to be pointing to a totally different family. Does anyone know of a Lachlan McNeill/Mary McGillvray family? This would leave 'our' Marion as still a mystery. Third regarding Janet. Jill Dakin had already pointed me to the likely marriage to Duncan McDougall because of the reference to brother-in-law as informant in the death of Mary McGilvray. Sure enough I found Duncan's death in ScotlandsPeople on 8 July 1876 at Penmore where he is described as widower of Janet McNeil. Unfortunately I can find no death of Janet McDougall between 1855 and 1876 so she must have died pre-1855 Fourth regarding Mary and Hugh McGilvra(y). Jean's question whether this Hugh could be the person born 1818 seems unlikely as the Mary / Hugh marriage would most likely have been around 1810. Ida, is there no mention of this family in the 1851 census? So there we have it. No knowledge at all of Neil and possibly nothing of Marion if the McPhaiden marriage is not her. No knowledge of the death of Catherine (Beaton) and Janet (McDougall). Would love to hear your thoughts. John Beaton Brisbane

Correction should be Croig. Ian

Hi All, Not in a position to comment on detail of recent emails as engaged on another project (regret not Mull related, hopefully back on that on Sunday) as present but to quickly answer the question re C**ig. My suggestion is that it is Criog which is within a reasonable courting distance of Cail(l)ioch. Hope this helps. Ian

Hi John Thanks for this. Sorry I used my notes that the family emigrated to Australia. It's there as my reminder someone went to Australia in the family :-( I haven't delved into all the McNeil families on Mull as yet. So I can't help with Lachlan & Mary McGilvra (sp) family other than Marion who m's Allan McFadyen. When you found Duncan McDougall death certificate Jul 8 1876 Penmore were his parents names supplied ? Re Hugh McGilvra & Mary McNeil I've only found Mary McNeil in 1841 in Penmore visiting Mary McLucais (sp) wife of Neil Ferguson and in 1861 Arid of Penmore in b-i-l Duncan McDougall/McLucais/McLucash h/h So your Marion McNeil Nov 3 1797 is still a free agent :-) Ida John Beaton wrote: >Hi Ida, Jacqueline and others > >First, Ida - Just to clarify re Catherine McNeil where you say "family travelled to Australia" - I was not suggesting that Catherine and Archibald travelled to Australia, in fact I think it quite likely they stayed on Mull. What I do know is that their son John Beaton married in Auckland NZ in 1843 and their second son Archibald seems to have died in Queensland in 1886 (although I know nothing else about him). How or when they both emigrated is unknown. > >Second regarding Marion. I also found the Allan McPhaiden marriage that Jacquline refers to and as Marion would have been 20, I thought it looked about right. However two doubts arise. On the original OPR the bride's location is C**ig. Only yesterday I asked Ian if he could help in deciphering. It could be something like Covig or Cruig or Craig - anyway nothing like any location I could see near Caillioch. The other doubt arises when you look at her death which I found on ScotlandsPeople under the name McFayden on 16 Feb 1872 at Portmore, Tobermory. She is described as pauper, widow of late Allan McFayden, seaman. Here her parents are given as Lachlan Mac Neill, farmer, deceased and Mary McNeill nee McGillvray, deceased. The informant was son John McFayden, shoemaker. Portmore, present. Now, of course this could be a typical error you find on death certificates where informants take a guess at what they don't know, but it seems to be pointing to a totally different fa! m! > ily. Does anyone know of a Lachlan McNeill/Mary McGillvray family? This would leave 'our' Marion as still a mystery. > >Third regarding Janet. Jill Dakin had already pointed me to the likely marriage to Duncan McDougall because of the reference to brother-in-law as informant in the death of Mary McGilvray. Sure enough I found Duncan's death in ScotlandsPeople on 8 July 1876 at Penmore where he is described as widower of Janet McNeil. Unfortunately I can find no death of Janet McDougall between 1855 and 1876 so she must have died pre-1855 > >Fourth regarding Mary and Hugh McGilvra(y). Jean's question whether this Hugh could be the person born 1818 seems unlikely as the Mary / Hugh marriage would most likely have been around 1810. >Ida, is there no mention of this family in the 1851 census? > >So there we have it. No knowledge at all of Neil and possibly nothing of Marion if the McPhaiden marriage is not her. No knowledge of the death of Catherine (Beaton) and Janet (McDougall). > >Would love to hear your thoughts. > >John Beaton >Brisbane > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Ida, thank you for the information, but the parents of the Marion McNeil I am searching for is John McNeil and Janet McLean. Marion born 9 Dec 1795, Calliach. This is good news though as I now know the Marion and McPhaiden marriage I found, is NOT my Marion. I am beginning to think all these Calliach McNeils washed out to sea! Jacqueline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle & Ida King" <m_iking@telusplanet.net> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNeil/Campbell > Hi Jacqueline > > this ones easy :-) > > Allan McPhaiden from Tiree and Marion McNeill, m 18 Mar. 1817, Croig KLN > M115442, 1012 > > Marion McFayden, pauper, widow of late Allan McFayden, seaman, died aged > 80 on the 16th of February 1872 at Portmore, Tobermory. > Her parents were Lachlan MacNeill, farmer, dec. and Mary McNeill, M/N > Mary McGillivray, dec. Her son, John McFayden, > shoemaker, Portmore, present, signed his X. > > Marion's in Penmore 1841 and Aird (of Penmore) KLN in 1861. I presume > that she dies in her son John the shoemaker's house in Portmore TBR :-) > John & his wife Catherine ? are in1851, 1861 Craigaig KLN then in > Portmore 1871 > > later > Ida > > Jacqueline Archibald wrote: > >>I hope there is not the same confusion in this Marion McNeil as I have one >>too who is born in Calliach 9 Dec 1795 and I don't know anymore about her. >>I think she is a sister to my Catherine and I notice there is a marriage >>of >>a Marion McNeil, Calliach to an Allan McPhaiden 18 Mar 1817 maybe this >>marriage is for your Marion as the children don't seem to connect with >>names >>of mine. >>Sorry to confuse the issue again. >>Jacqueline in N.S. >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jacqueline this ones easy :-) Allan McPhaiden from Tiree and Marion McNeill, m 18 Mar. 1817, Croig KLN M115442, 1012 Marion McFayden, pauper, widow of late Allan McFayden, seaman, died aged 80 on the 16th of February 1872 at Portmore, Tobermory. Her parents were Lachlan MacNeill, farmer, dec. and Mary McNeill, M/N Mary McGillivray, dec. Her son, John McFayden, shoemaker, Portmore, present, signed his X. Marion's in Penmore 1841 and Aird (of Penmore) KLN in 1861. I presume that she dies in her son John the shoemaker's house in Portmore TBR :-) John & his wife Catherine ? are in1851, 1861 Craigaig KLN then in Portmore 1871 later Ida Jacqueline Archibald wrote: >I hope there is not the same confusion in this Marion McNeil as I have one >too who is born in Calliach 9 Dec 1795 and I don't know anymore about her. >I think she is a sister to my Catherine and I notice there is a marriage of >a Marion McNeil, Calliach to an Allan McPhaiden 18 Mar 1817 maybe this >marriage is for your Marion as the children don't seem to connect with names >of mine. >Sorry to confuse the issue again. >Jacqueline in N.S. >

Hi Jean I wouldn't think it's your Hugh McGilvra as Mary McNeil was b/c Dec 14 1788 in Caillioch KLN :-( Someday I'm sure we'll connect all the missing dots in these families. Ida jean whimp wrote: >Ida, >I haven't been following closely but noted the Hugh McGilvra . Could this >be the illegitimate child born to Hector Hugh McLean and his housekeeper >Catherine McGilvra 20 March 1818 or so before Hector Hugh married the >Kilfinichen ministers daughter Ann McLeod(md in Aberdeen). I've been trying >to find him as Hector Hugh is a brother of my GT Grandma. >Jean >

Good morning folks, Any idea where my Lachlan McNeil who married Mary McLean on 15 Oct 1822 fits in? Record simply reads, "Oct 15th, 1822. Lachlan McNeil (sic), Cailloch & Mary McLean, Inievay, were married." Their first two daugthers Janet (29 July 1823) and Flory (18 Aug 1825) were baptised in the Parish of Kilninian and Kilmore. According to census their children Neil, Mary and Catherine were also born on Mull. The family seems to have relocated to Hough, Tiree between 1834 and 1836, but I have no idea why. With kind regards, Gail in Switzerland -----Ursprungliche Nachricht----- Von: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com]Im Auftrag von Jacqueline Archibald Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2007 18:06 An: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNeil/Campbell I hope there is not the same confusion in this Marion McNeil as I have one too who is born in Calliach 9 Dec 1795 and I don't know anymore about her. I think she is a sister to my Catherine and I notice there is a marriage of a Marion McNeil, Calliach to an Allan McPhaiden 18 Mar 1817 maybe this marriage is for your Marion as the children don't seem to connect with names of mine. Sorry to confuse the issue again. Jacqueline in N.S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle & Ida King" <m_iking@telusplanet.net> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNeil/Campbell > Hi John > > No connection here but your helping me with my census project. So thank > you. Now that you and Jacqueline have decided which Catherine your each > taking. I can offer this. > > Descendants of Malcolm McNeil > > > 1 Malcolm McNeil b: Bef. 1764 > > .. +Janet Campbell b: Bef. 1764 m: March 16, 1784 in > Caillioch KLN 6934229, 59 d: Bef. November 3, 1799 birth registry > for daughter Janet mother listed as deceased Janet Campbell > . 2 Mary McNeil b: December 14, 1788 in Caillioch KLN > d: December 25, 1867 in Penmore KLN, 1841 Penmore in Mary McLucais/Neil > Ferguson h/h as v Burial: 1861 Aird KLN as house keeper in b-i-l > Duncan McDougall's h/h > ..... +Hugh McGilvra Can't find hide nor hair of him so he > might have died bef 1841 > . 2 Catherine McNeil b: April 22, 1791 in Caillioch KLN > 7005126, 31 family traveled to Australia John Beaton > jcbeaton@bigpond.com > > ..... +Archibald Beaton b: Abt. 1793 m: May 2, 1814 in > Frackdale Kilninian M115442, 0943 > ..... 3 John Beaton b: March 12, 1815 in Frackdale KLN > d: 1882 in To Australia > ......... +? m: 1843 > > ..... 3 Archibald Beaton b: March 2, 1817 in Balligown KLN > d: 1886 in Queensland Australia Burial: To Australia > . 2 Neil McNeil b: June 14, 1795 in Caillioch KLN > > > . 2 Marion McNeil b: November 3, 1797 in Caillioch KLN > > > . 2 Janet McNeil b: November 3, 1799 in Cailloch KLN > d: Bef. 1851 > > ..... +Duncan McDougall b: 1801 in 1841 as McLucais, 1851 > Penmore KLN #10 & 42, 1861 Aird KLN informant on s-i-l Mary's death > Might be gd ch > > ..... 3 John McDougall b: 1830 > > ..... 3 Donald McDougall b: 1831 > > > Then to add more ?'s to the mix. As Janet Campbell died bef Nov 3 1799 > could your Malcolm have remarried to Ann McDonald and had Catherine > 1802, John 1804, Neil 1806, Charles 1808, and Marion/Sarah in 1810 > > Then I wonder if Mary McNeil in 1841 Penmore KLN in Mary McLucash who's > husband was Neil Ferguson (he d Jan 8 1837 burial in Calgary cemetery) > might have some relationship with Duncan McDougall/McLucais/McLucash etc > :-) > > Ida > > John Beaton wrote: > >>Now that we have 'agreed' on sorting out the two Catherine McNeils, I >>would like to ask if anyone on the list (apart from me) has a connection >>to, or information on, the Malcolm McNeil / Janet Campbell family. >> >>>From the OPR we know that Malcolm and Janet married at Caillioch on 16 >>>Mar 1784 and also that Catherine (1791) who married Archibald Beaton had >>>siblings Mary (1788), Neil (1795), Marion (1797) and Janet (1799). All >>>were baptised at Caillioch. From somewhere, but not sure where, I have >>>noted that Mary died in 1867 at Penmore. >> >>Does anyone know anything of these siblings? >> >>John Beaton >>Brisbane >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ida, I haven't been following closely but noted the Hugh McGilvra . Could this be the illegitimate child born to Hector Hugh McLean and his housekeeper Catherine McGilvra 20 March 1818 or so before Hector Hugh married the Kilfinichen ministers daughter Ann McLeod(md in Aberdeen). I've been trying to find him as Hector Hugh is a brother of my GT Grandma. Jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merle & Ida King Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2007 2:23 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNeil/Campbell Hi John No connection here but your helping me with my census project. So thank you. Now that you and Jacqueline have decided which Catherine your each taking. I can offer this. Descendants of Malcolm McNeil 1 Malcolm McNeil b: Bef. 1764 .. +Janet Campbell b: Bef. 1764 m: March 16, 1784 in Caillioch KLN 6934229, 59 d: Bef. November 3, 1799 birth registry for daughter Janet mother listed as deceased Janet Campbell . 2 Mary McNeil b: December 14, 1788 in Caillioch KLN d: December 25, 1867 in Penmore KLN, 1841 Penmore in Mary McLucais/Neil Ferguson h/h as v Burial: 1861 Aird KLN as house keeper in b-i-l Duncan McDougall's h/h ..... +Hugh McGilvra Can't find hide nor hair of him so he might have died bef 1841 . 2 Catherine McNeil b: April 22, 1791 in Caillioch KLN 7005126, 31 family traveled to Australia John Beaton jcbeaton@bigpond.com ..... +Archibald Beaton b: Abt. 1793 m: May 2, 1814 in Frackdale Kilninian M115442, 0943 ..... 3 John Beaton b: March 12, 1815 in Frackdale KLN d: 1882 in To Australia ......... +? m: 1843 ..... 3 Archibald Beaton b: March 2, 1817 in Balligown KLN d: 1886 in Queensland Australia Burial: To Australia . 2 Neil McNeil b: June 14, 1795 in Caillioch KLN . 2 Marion McNeil b: November 3, 1797 in Caillioch KLN . 2 Janet McNeil b: November 3, 1799 in Cailloch KLN d: Bef. 1851 ..... +Duncan McDougall b: 1801 in 1841 as McLucais, 1851 Penmore KLN #10 & 42, 1861 Aird KLN informant on s-i-l Mary's death Might be gd ch ..... 3 John McDougall b: 1830 ..... 3 Donald McDougall b: 1831 Then to add more ?'s to the mix. As Janet Campbell died bef Nov 3 1799 could your Malcolm have remarried to Ann McDonald and had Catherine 1802, John 1804, Neil 1806, Charles 1808, and Marion/Sarah in 1810 Then I wonder if Mary McNeil in 1841 Penmore KLN in Mary McLucash who's husband was Neil Ferguson (he d Jan 8 1837 burial in Calgary cemetery) might have some relationship with Duncan McDougall/McLucais/McLucash etc :-) Ida John Beaton wrote: >Now that we have 'agreed' on sorting out the two Catherine McNeils, I would like to ask if anyone on the list (apart from me) has a connection to, or information on, the Malcolm McNeil / Janet Campbell family. > >>From the OPR we know that Malcolm and Janet married at Caillioch on 16 Mar 1784 and also that Catherine (1791) who married Archibald Beaton had siblings Mary (1788), Neil (1795), Marion (1797) and Janet (1799). All were baptised at Caillioch. From somewhere, but not sure where, I have noted that Mary died in 1867 at Penmore. > >Does anyone know anything of these siblings? > >John Beaton >Brisbane > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi - I've just found a good new resource for looking up whole passenger lists of immigrants to NSW. A number of these ships came from Scotland and specifically brought Argyll, Invenessshire and Mull and other Island emigrants to the Colony. This is by no means a full list of emigrants during the period covered but it does allow the ship name to be entered and all emigrants on the ship to be listed alphabetically. This can be useful to see listings of the same surnames. You can also do a first name only search, which might be useful for those with uncommon first names. It's at http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/indexes_online_3357.asp Scroll down the various indices listed on that page until you reach the "new" Index to Miscellaneous Immigrants 1828-43. On clicking on the link on the page, you are taken to a search box. You can either enter people's names or alternatively go to the ship box and select one of the ships and enter that, giving you a list of passengers on the ship. My family, the Smiths, arrived on the George Ffyfe which left from Mull, although they were from Ardnamurchan. Further information about the families can be found in their onshore records following arrival. Hope this is a useful link. Anne

I hope there is not the same confusion in this Marion McNeil as I have one too who is born in Calliach 9 Dec 1795 and I don't know anymore about her. I think she is a sister to my Catherine and I notice there is a marriage of a Marion McNeil, Calliach to an Allan McPhaiden 18 Mar 1817 maybe this marriage is for your Marion as the children don't seem to connect with names of mine. Sorry to confuse the issue again. Jacqueline in N.S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle & Ida King" <m_iking@telusplanet.net> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNeil/Campbell > Hi John > > No connection here but your helping me with my census project. So thank > you. Now that you and Jacqueline have decided which Catherine your each > taking. I can offer this. > > Descendants of Malcolm McNeil > > > 1 Malcolm McNeil b: Bef. 1764 > > .. +Janet Campbell b: Bef. 1764 m: March 16, 1784 in > Caillioch KLN 6934229, 59 d: Bef. November 3, 1799 birth registry > for daughter Janet mother listed as deceased Janet Campbell > . 2 Mary McNeil b: December 14, 1788 in Caillioch KLN > d: December 25, 1867 in Penmore KLN, 1841 Penmore in Mary McLucais/Neil > Ferguson h/h as v Burial: 1861 Aird KLN as house keeper in b-i-l > Duncan McDougall's h/h > ..... +Hugh McGilvra Can't find hide nor hair of him so he > might have died bef 1841 > . 2 Catherine McNeil b: April 22, 1791 in Caillioch KLN > 7005126, 31 family traveled to Australia John Beaton > jcbeaton@bigpond.com > > ..... +Archibald Beaton b: Abt. 1793 m: May 2, 1814 in > Frackdale Kilninian M115442, 0943 > ..... 3 John Beaton b: March 12, 1815 in Frackdale KLN > d: 1882 in To Australia > ......... +? m: 1843 > > ..... 3 Archibald Beaton b: March 2, 1817 in Balligown KLN > d: 1886 in Queensland Australia Burial: To Australia > . 2 Neil McNeil b: June 14, 1795 in Caillioch KLN > > > . 2 Marion McNeil b: November 3, 1797 in Caillioch KLN > > > . 2 Janet McNeil b: November 3, 1799 in Cailloch KLN > d: Bef. 1851 > > ..... +Duncan McDougall b: 1801 in 1841 as McLucais, 1851 > Penmore KLN #10 & 42, 1861 Aird KLN informant on s-i-l Mary's death > Might be gd ch > > ..... 3 John McDougall b: 1830 > > ..... 3 Donald McDougall b: 1831 > > > Then to add more ?'s to the mix. As Janet Campbell died bef Nov 3 1799 > could your Malcolm have remarried to Ann McDonald and had Catherine > 1802, John 1804, Neil 1806, Charles 1808, and Marion/Sarah in 1810 > > Then I wonder if Mary McNeil in 1841 Penmore KLN in Mary McLucash who's > husband was Neil Ferguson (he d Jan 8 1837 burial in Calgary cemetery) > might have some relationship with Duncan McDougall/McLucais/McLucash etc > :-) > > Ida > > John Beaton wrote: > >>Now that we have 'agreed' on sorting out the two Catherine McNeils, I >>would like to ask if anyone on the list (apart from me) has a connection >>to, or information on, the Malcolm McNeil / Janet Campbell family. >> >>>From the OPR we know that Malcolm and Janet married at Caillioch on 16 >>>Mar 1784 and also that Catherine (1791) who married Archibald Beaton had >>>siblings Mary (1788), Neil (1795), Marion (1797) and Janet (1799). All >>>were baptised at Caillioch. From somewhere, but not sure where, I have >>>noted that Mary died in 1867 at Penmore. >> >>Does anyone know anything of these siblings? >> >>John Beaton >>Brisbane >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John No connection here but your helping me with my census project. So thank you. Now that you and Jacqueline have decided which Catherine your each taking. I can offer this. Descendants of Malcolm McNeil 1 Malcolm McNeil b: Bef. 1764 .. +Janet Campbell b: Bef. 1764 m: March 16, 1784 in Caillioch KLN 6934229, 59 d: Bef. November 3, 1799 birth registry for daughter Janet mother listed as deceased Janet Campbell . 2 Mary McNeil b: December 14, 1788 in Caillioch KLN d: December 25, 1867 in Penmore KLN, 1841 Penmore in Mary McLucais/Neil Ferguson h/h as v Burial: 1861 Aird KLN as house keeper in b-i-l Duncan McDougall's h/h ..... +Hugh McGilvra Can't find hide nor hair of him so he might have died bef 1841 . 2 Catherine McNeil b: April 22, 1791 in Caillioch KLN 7005126, 31 family traveled to Australia John Beaton jcbeaton@bigpond.com ..... +Archibald Beaton b: Abt. 1793 m: May 2, 1814 in Frackdale Kilninian M115442, 0943 ..... 3 John Beaton b: March 12, 1815 in Frackdale KLN d: 1882 in To Australia ......... +? m: 1843 ..... 3 Archibald Beaton b: March 2, 1817 in Balligown KLN d: 1886 in Queensland Australia Burial: To Australia . 2 Neil McNeil b: June 14, 1795 in Caillioch KLN . 2 Marion McNeil b: November 3, 1797 in Caillioch KLN . 2 Janet McNeil b: November 3, 1799 in Cailloch KLN d: Bef. 1851 ..... +Duncan McDougall b: 1801 in 1841 as McLucais, 1851 Penmore KLN #10 & 42, 1861 Aird KLN informant on s-i-l Mary's death Might be gd ch ..... 3 John McDougall b: 1830 ..... 3 Donald McDougall b: 1831 Then to add more ?'s to the mix. As Janet Campbell died bef Nov 3 1799 could your Malcolm have remarried to Ann McDonald and had Catherine 1802, John 1804, Neil 1806, Charles 1808, and Marion/Sarah in 1810 Then I wonder if Mary McNeil in 1841 Penmore KLN in Mary McLucash who's husband was Neil Ferguson (he d Jan 8 1837 burial in Calgary cemetery) might have some relationship with Duncan McDougall/McLucais/McLucash etc :-) Ida John Beaton wrote: >Now that we have 'agreed' on sorting out the two Catherine McNeils, I would like to ask if anyone on the list (apart from me) has a connection to, or information on, the Malcolm McNeil / Janet Campbell family. > >>From the OPR we know that Malcolm and Janet married at Caillioch on 16 Mar 1784 and also that Catherine (1791) who married Archibald Beaton had siblings Mary (1788), Neil (1795), Marion (1797) and Janet (1799). All were baptised at Caillioch. From somewhere, but not sure where, I have noted that Mary died in 1867 at Penmore. > >Does anyone know anything of these siblings? > >John Beaton >Brisbane >