THANKS FOR THAT IDA - $*%+>@?<£"#&*!"£$%^&* JUST WHAT I NEEDED!!!!!!! June. (new address - local Home for the Bewildered, Scotland) >> > Ida wrote:-> > from the 1881 census> > 4 Catchen McCormick Margaret 86 Head Spinner Iona > Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 F Black 1796-Apr 9 1816 husb John > 1841-1861 Gortan dubh> 4 Catchen McCormick Catherine 50 Daur Laundress Iona > Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 F > 4 Catchen Fisher Mary 14 Gd Daur Dom Servant Iona > Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 F so I presume this is Catherine > McCormick & Donald McCormicks child registed as Jul 22 1866, along with > Jemima May 1 1862 here only Catherine name is supplied, and Flora Sep 26 > 1856 but the name's been changed to Fisher :-D> > Next door> 5 Catchen McCormick John 50 Head Granite Quarrier Iona > Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 M > 5 Catchen McCormick Chirstina 32 Wife Wife Quarrier > Iona Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 F Vass> 5 Catchen McCormick Dugald 18 Son Gen Farm Servt Iona > Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 M ( Jan 12 1862 s/o John & Marg McDonald)> 5 Catchen McCormick Janet 15 Daur Dom Servt Iona > Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 F (Jan 6 1866 d/o John & Margaret > McDonald)> 5 Catchen McCormick William 6 Son Scholar Iona Parish, > Argyll, Scotland 9 M Oct 29 1874> > Linda I checked out Gordon pages thanks It's interesting that no one > knows what happened to the other missing children of John & Margaret > McDonald :-)> > http://gordonmaccormick.com/index.html> > > Just to add more confusion to your family could these be the McCormick > children :-D> 1901 Iona census> 3 Sligenach U F Manse Dewar Archibald 42 Head Minister U > F Church Argyll Easdale 11 Single > 3 Sligenach U F Manse Masterton Jemima 36 Servant > Housekeeper Argyll Ross of Mull 11 Single McCormick May > 1 1862> 3 Sligenach U F Manse Fisher Mary 31 Servant General > Domestic Servant Argyll Ross of Mull 11 Single McCormick > b Jul 22 1866> > back to the drawing board...> catch ya later> Ida> > > > > >> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml

Hi All, just a quick question, although I can find the place names on the Mull Genealogy web pages can any tell me the comparative distances and where abouts the places named Kilpatrick, Assapol, Ardtun and Torrans where or are from each other. Thanks to Christine Leach I have some information on the Torrans area, does anything remain of the other area's or are they in the same condition as Torrans, looking to find this out as to be able to place the family over a couple of generations, where they came from and were they moved to. Thanks and by the way a Very Happy New Year to all. Donald.

Ida, June et al - I received a note off list to let us know that "John 'McCormick' s/o John/Margaret McDonald was born 11 Jun 1858 Tobermory [illegit to Margaret]. John McCormick may or may not be the natural father - but John jnr. was named McCormick for the 1861 Census" Linda

Hi Shane and Karen, I now have 4 messages on this topic in my mail box so the message is getting though. I know of no other books on the history of the Ross. For a list of 'Mull' books see www.mullgenealogy.co.uk/mugg_2006_books.htm and/or www.mullgenealogy.co.uk/resour.htm Hope this helps, Ian roger&karenReede wrote: > Shane MacLean's message sent today did not come through. - Karen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shane Maclean" <skmaclean@nexicom.net> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:40 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Ross of Mull History? > > > >> roger&karenReede wrote: >> >>> Hi Listers - Can you recommend literature available on the history of the >>> Ross of Mull? I do have Carol Riddell's "History of Tireragan Township, >>> ROM," Jo Currie's "Mull, the Island and its People," and the book "Tea >>> with >>> Chrissie" by Rosalind Jones, all of which I recommend. >>> >>> Thanks, Karen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi Ida and all, Because of the McQuarrie connection I've had a trawl around the various Census Indices for Ann McDonald and found her first at Bunessan in 1851 interestingly born Bury which I assume to be Ancestryspeak for Burgh just across Loch Scridain from Bunessan. You have 1861 at Bunessan and by 1871 she is at Appin with Maryann 12 & Angus 15. her husband Angus has presumably died and she is listed as Ann McQuarrie. 1881 she is at East Laroch by Glencoe and in 1891 with daughter in Oban. Not on 1901 so presumably died Kilmore & Kilbride 1891-01. Looks likea scotlandspeople job to sort out her parents!! Campbell Millar, Manchester, England. > From: m_iking@telusplanet.net > To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDonald children born in Allentean, Victoria Co., Aust. ??? > > Barbara, Edwin and Jean > > Thank you all for helping me piece together another family in the > census. Now I just have to figure out how or if Ann McQuarrie is > connected to Lachaln McQuarrie & Mary Shaw :-[ > > thanks again > Ida > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com

Hi Cam Thanks for this..It all adds to the bigger picture. I just received a personal message from Tom McQuarrie via a posted message for the McQuarrie mailing list of an upcoming website you might be interested in. thanks again Ida From: Matthew A. C. Newsome <mailto:macnewsome@gmail.com> To: MACQUARRIE LIST <mailto:macquarrie@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:09 PM Subject: [macquarrie] clan web site & membership form Hello all! I've been working with Frank and others about setting up an official web site for the budding clan society. The address for that site is: http://www.clanmacquarrie.org/ <http://www.clanmacquarrie.org/> I am in the process now of transferring and updating the information from http://albanach.org/macquarrie <http://albanach.org/macquarrie> to the new site. I will leave the former site up and active until the new site is complete. However, in the meantime I wanted to let everyone know that the new site is there (albeit under construction) , and that you can access the by-laws (which Frank has sent to some of you already) and download a membership application there. If there are any other suggestions, just let me know! Aye, Matt -- Matthew A. C. Newsome, FSA Scot Curator of the Scottish Tartans Museum Member of the Guild of Tartan Scholars Homepage: http://www.albanach.org <http://www.albanach.org> cam millar wrote: > >Hi Ida and all, > >Because of the McQuarrie connection I've had a trawl around the various Census Indices for Ann McDonald and found her first at Bunessan in 1851 interestingly born Bury which I assume to be Ancestryspeak for Burgh just across Loch Scridain from Bunessan. You have 1861 at Bunessan and by 1871 she is at Appin with Maryann 12 & Angus 15. her husband Angus has presumably died and she is listed as Ann McQuarrie. 1881 she is at East Laroch by Glencoe and in 1891 with daughter in Oban. Not on 1901 so presumably died Kilmore & Kilbride 1891-01. Looks likea scotlandspeople job to sort out her parents!! > > Campbell Millar, Manchester, England. >

Hi June & Linda Please remember to <snip out some of the original query> :-[ from the 1881 census 4 Catchen McCormick Margaret 86 Head Spinner Iona Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 F Black 1796-Apr 9 1816 husb John 1841-1861 Gortan dubh 4 Catchen McCormick Catherine 50 Daur Laundress Iona Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 F 4 Catchen Fisher Mary 14 Gd Daur Dom Servant Iona Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 F so I presume this is Catherine McCormick & Donald McCormicks child registed as Jul 22 1866, along with Jemima May 1 1862 here only Catherine name is supplied, and Flora Sep 26 1856 but the name's been changed to Fisher :-D Next door 5 Catchen McCormick John 50 Head Granite Quarrier Iona Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 M 5 Catchen McCormick Chirstina 32 Wife Wife Quarrier Iona Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 F Vass 5 Catchen McCormick Dugald 18 Son Gen Farm Servt Iona Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 M ( Jan 12 1862 s/o John & Marg McDonald) 5 Catchen McCormick Janet 15 Daur Dom Servt Iona Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 F (Jan 6 1866 d/o John & Margaret McDonald) 5 Catchen McCormick William 6 Son Scholar Iona Parish, Argyll, Scotland 9 M Oct 29 1874 Linda I checked out Gordon pages thanks It's interesting that no one knows what happened to the other missing children of John & Margaret McDonald :-) http://gordonmaccormick.com/index.html Just to add more confusion to your family could these be the McCormick children :-D 1901 Iona census 3 Sligenach U F Manse Dewar Archibald 42 Head Minister U F Church Argyll Easdale 11 Single 3 Sligenach U F Manse Masterton Jemima 36 Servant Housekeeper Argyll Ross of Mull 11 Single McCormick May 1 1862 3 Sligenach U F Manse Fisher Mary 31 Servant General Domestic Servant Argyll Ross of Mull 11 Single McCormick b Jul 22 1866 back to the drawing board... catch ya later Ida June Ridgeway wrote: >Hi Ida and Linda, > >Can't really help with John McCormick's marriage to Margaret McGilvra. > >A couple of points though. Birth cert for John, son of John McCormick and Margaret Black, >shows his birthplace as what looks like "Culbhury", Iona. This could perhaps be "Culbuirg", >but it is definately Iona. > >The James Stewart on the 1871 census for William Vass. I have tried hard to find any >connection between Vass and Stewart, going through the Vass family from Ross-shire >as well, and I have come to the conclusion that the census is wrong and that it should >read "boarder" and not brother. > >Also, on the 1881 census for John and Christina, I note that Dugald and Janet from John's >marriage to Margaret McDonald are living with them, and their marriage cert shows John >living at Tormore and Christina at Deargphort, where the rest of the Vass family were at >the time. > >Keep up the good work! > >June. > >

Shane MacLean's message sent today did not come through. - Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Maclean" <skmaclean@nexicom.net> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Ross of Mull History? > roger&karenReede wrote: >> Hi Listers - Can you recommend literature available on the history of the >> Ross of Mull? I do have Carol Riddell's "History of Tireragan Township, >> ROM," Jo Currie's "Mull, the Island and its People," and the book "Tea >> with >> Chrissie" by Rosalind Jones, all of which I recommend. >> >> Thanks, Karen >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

roger&karenReede wrote: > Hi Listers - Can you recommend literature available on the history of the > Ross of Mull? I do have Carol Riddell's "History of Tireragan Township, > ROM," Jo Currie's "Mull, the Island and its People," and the book "Tea with > Chrissie" by Rosalind Jones, all of which I recommend. > > Thanks, Karen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi Ida and Linda, Can't really help with John McCormick's marriage to Margaret McGilvra. A couple of points though. Birth cert for John, son of John McCormick and Margaret Black, shows his birthplace as what looks like "Culbhury", Iona. This could perhaps be "Culbuirg", but it is definately Iona. The James Stewart on the 1871 census for William Vass. I have tried hard to find any connection between Vass and Stewart, going through the Vass family from Ross-shire as well, and I have come to the conclusion that the census is wrong and that it should read "boarder" and not brother. Also, on the 1881 census for John and Christina, I note that Dugald and Janet from John's marriage to Margaret McDonald are living with them, and their marriage cert shows John living at Tormore and Christina at Deargphort, where the rest of the Vass family were at the time. Keep up the good work! June. > From: lmtowne@alltel.net> To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:44:44 -0500> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] John McCormick a shoemaker m's Margaret McGilvra , a quarrier m's Margaret McDonald , a quarrier Christina Vass> > Ida - > I'm printing out your email to look more closely at and digest. I have John> MacCormick b.1830 (par: John MacCormick and Margaret Black) m. to 1) (bef.> 1859) Margaret (no details except children) and 2) (1973) Christina Vass.> It's a collateral line to mine; I descend through one of his brothers.> > If I can shed any light once I look more closely at your information, I'll> post. In the meantime, I'll be following this thread closely.> > Linda (MacCormick) Towne> > -----Original Message-----> From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merle & Ida King> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:26 PM> To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] John McCormick a shoemaker m's Margaret McGilvra> ,a quarrier m's Margaret McDonald , a quarrier Christina Vass> > Hi June and others> > Maybe with the lists help you'll be able to make some strides here. > Hopefully the formatting will come out alright.> > This John McCormick :-(> > Marriage 2 June 1853, John McCormick and Margaret McGilvra both residing > in Catchean. [Iona ].> > Daughter of Donald McGilvray, Farmer in Tirergan and Isabel McArthur. > Married John McCormick, shoemaker. She died 1 July 1855 of delirium of 7 > weeks' duration, with one child, Margaret McCormick aged 8 weeks at her > mother's death. Reg. Catchean. Info. John McCormick, husband. aged 19 > born Tirergan, This parts fine :-)> > Their daughter Margaret was b/c May 11 1855 I believe she m's Neil > McInnis via this census trail he makes things really complicated :-[ is > he a nephew/cousin or son in law or grandson> > Margaret is found in 1861 Ferry House Iona in grandparents Donald > McGilvra and Isabel McArthur h/h via daughters death above> McGilvray Donald 70 Head Ferryman Argyllshire Kilfinichen 4 Mar> McGilvray Isobel 60 Wife Argyllshire Kilfinichen 4 Mar McArthur m Feb 1 1820> McGilvray Neil 30 Son Agricultural Labourer Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar Feb > 24 1826> McGilvray Marrion 21 Dau Domestic Servant Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar> McCormick Margaret 6 Grand Daughter Scholar Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar May > 11 1855 later m's Neil McInnis> > 1871 census note who's next door> Finnaphort 3 Vass William 52 Head Quarrier Renfrewshire 3 Mar 1851, 1861 > Ardfenaig KLF, 1881 Deargphort KLF> Finnaphort 3 Vass Jane 62 Wife Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 Mar Livingston> Finnaphort 3 Vass Christina 24 Dau Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 UnMar m's > John McCormick> Finnaphort 3 Vass Jessie 1 Grandchild Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 May 19 > 1869 Iona> Finnaphort 3 Stewart James 35 Brother Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 Mar > ?????Haven't figured out who he belongs to> Finnaphort 4 McGillivary Niel 41 Head Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 > UnMar other census has them from Iona> Finnaphort 4 McCormick Margaret 16 Niece Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 > UnMar May 11 1855 d/o John & Margaret McGilvra marriage for John > McCormick and Christina Vass later in this item.> > 1881 census> 8 Fionaphort McGillivary Neil 38 Head Ferryman Iona Parish Of, Argyll, > Scotland 9 M 1826-1901> 8 Fionaphort McCormick Maggie 25 Niece House Keeper Iona Parish Of, > Argyll, Scotland 9 F May 11 1855 m's Neil McInnis aft 1881> > 1891 census> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McGillivray Neil 42 Head Ferryman Iona 9 UnMar > 1826-1901> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Neil 30 Quarryman 9 Mar Aug 23 1860 > 1871 West End Iona 1881 Farm House Iona, 1901 Fionnaphort Iona> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Maggie 36 Niece Quarryman's wife 9 Mar > McCormick b May 11 1855> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Donald 11 Grand nephew Scholar 9 these > have disappeared in 1901> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Mary 6 Grand niece Scholar 9 these have > disappeared in 1901> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Archd 4 Grand nephew 9 these have > disappeared in 1901> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Neil 2 Grand nephew 9 these have > disappeared in 1901> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Maggie 7mths Grand niece 9> > 1901> 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Neil 40 Head Farmer Argyll Iona 11 Mar s/o > Archibald McInnis & Mary McCormick 1841 West End Iona, 1851 Nois Iona > 1861 Slignach Iona, 1871 West End Iona> 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Maggie 36 Wife Farmer's wife Lanarkshire > Glasgow 11 Mar McCormick May 11 1855 d/o John McCormick & Margaret > McGilvra 1881 Farm House Fionnaphort Iona, 1901 Fionnaphort Iona> 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Maggie 5 Dau Argyll Iona 11> 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Ann 66 Aunt General Domestic Servant Argyll > Iona 11 Widow McDonald husb Alexander 1861 Runaich, 1871 Ruanith, 1881 > Ruanich, 1891 Crofters cottage Iona> 1 West End Ruanick Kemp Thomas 16 Servant Farm Servant Lanarkshire > Glasgow 11 Single> 1 West End Ruanick Kemp Agnes 14 Boarder Scholar Lanarkshire Glasgow 11> 1 West End Ruanick Anderson Joseph 14 Boarder Scholar Lanarkshire > Glasgow 11> > John McCormick aged 41 Quarrier widower Tormore Ross Mull, Father John > McCormick mother Marg. or Mary McCormick M/S Rose. the certificate > definitely states ROSE married 6 Nov. 1873 Christina Vass 24. Deargphort > Ross Mull Father William Vass Quarrier, mother Jane Vass M/S Livingston > deceased (Was this John born on Mull ????)> > Their son William McCormick was born 29 Oct. 1874 at Catchean. and > appears in 1891 Crofters Cottage Iona in Alexander McInnes & Ann > McDonald's house....> > Death of Christina McCormick, 24 Mar. 1894, married to John McCormick, > Quarrier at Creich, aged 45. Her father William Vass, crofter. Her > mother Jane Livingstone (dec.) info. John McCormick, husband.> > death 2 April 1894, John Alexander Vass McCormick, aged 10 months, at > Creich. Father John McCormick, quarrier. Mother Jane (?) McCormick M/S > Vass. He died of Tubercular peritonitis. Info. John McCormick, father. > (This one should read Christina McCormick M/S Vass)> > Death of John McCormick, quarrier, widower of Christina Vass, 19 Apr. > 1908 aged 78 at Tormore. Father John McCormick, schoolmaster, dec. > Mother Maggie Black, dec. He died of heart disease. Info. Neil McInnes, > grandson.> (Maybe this Maggie Black was a Rose but remarried but not necessarlily > the same as the following.)> > Mar 31 1859, Deagphort, C. of S., John McCormick 29 Catchean, Stone > Quarrier, Widower. Father John McCormick, Farmer. Mother Margaret Black > to Margaret McDonald, 21, Deargphort, Dom. Servt. Father Donald > McDonald, Ship Carpenter. Mother Janet Fletcher [2nd cousins].> > In 1861 Census Bra Bhail Iona> John McCormick Head Marr. 30 Quarrier b. Iona 1R> Margaret McCormick wife 22 Port Glasgow> John McCormick son 4 scholar Tobermory> Donald McCormick " 1 " Iona> > In 1871 Census at Tormore:> John McCormick Head Marr. 36 Quarrier b. Iona 1R> Margaret McCormick wife 33 Port Glasgow> John McCormick son 12 scholar Tobermory> Donald McCormick " 10 " Iona> Dugald McCormick " 8 " "> Janet McCormick dau. 6 "> > Margaret MacCormick married to John MacCormick, quarry labourer, died > aged 34 on the 19th of January 1873 at Tormore, Kilf. & Kilv. Parents > Donald MacDonald, ship carpenter, dec. and ? Janet MacDonald M/S Janet > Fletcher, dec. Her husband John McCormick, present, signed.> > If this John McCormick was married to the 3 women then he has 17 > children to be account for.> > John m's Margaret McGilvra (sp) shoemaker this Margaret dies Jul 1 1855> Has Margaret May 11 1855> > John m's Margaret McDonald quarrier> Has John 1857 via the 1861 Bra Bhail census just wonder who he is as the > parents m Mar 31 1859 ??????> Donald Apr 5 1860> Dugald Jan 12 1862> Alexander Oct 14 1863> Janet Jan 6 1866> Coll Mar 19 1868> Coll Jul 8 1870> > John m's Christina Vass quarrier (these June descends through)> Has William Oct 29 1874> Jane 1877> Neil 1878> Duncan 1880> Margaret Black Jun 14 1882> Christina 1886> Joanna 1888> Mary Ann 1889> John Alexander Vass 1893> > 1891 this Alexander McInnes who dies Feb 12 1895 lists Neil McInnis as a > cousin> Crofters Cottage McInnes Alexr 71 Head Farmer Iona 11 Mar 1819-Feb 12 > 1895 1861 Runaich, 1871 Ruanith, 1881 Ruanich Iona> Crofters Cottage McInnes Ann 55 Wife Farmer's wife 11 Mar McDonald Apr > 13 1835- Oct 1 1911 1901 West End Iona in nephew Neil McInnes & Margaret > McCormick h/h> Crofters Cottage McCormick William 17 Servant Farm Servant Ross Mull 11 > UnMar Oct 29 1874 s/o John McCormick & Christina Vass> Crofters Cottage Drummond Jane 15 Servant Maid Servant Glasgow 11 UnMar> Crofters Cottage Drummond Elija 5 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar> Crofters Cottage Martin William 12 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar> Crofters Cottage Henderson William 13 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar> > My feeling is that this John McCormick did indeed marry Margaret > McGilvra she died leaving a daughter. This John then moved from Mull > returning in 1872-1873 for a visit with his daughter then marries next > door neighbour Christina Vass. Another error was placed by the famous > Neil McInnes this time a grandson....> > Any help greatly appreciated> Ida> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx

Hi Ida and June I don't know if Gordon MacCormick is on this list or not but his website on the MacCormick's of Mull does show John MacCormick as married to all 3 wives. I'll try contacting him for further information. His website is: http://gordonmaccormick.com/index.html Linda -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of June Ridgeway Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:00 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] John McCormick a shoemaker m'sMargaret McGilvra , a quarrier m's Margaret McDo Hi Ida and Linda, Can't really help with John McCormick's marriage to Margaret McGilvra. A couple of points though. Birth cert for John, son of John McCormick and Margaret Black, shows his birthplace as what looks like "Culbhury", Iona. This could perhaps be "Culbuirg", but it is definately Iona. The James Stewart on the 1871 census for William Vass. I have tried hard to find any connection between Vass and Stewart, going through the Vass family from Ross-shire as well, and I have come to the conclusion that the census is wrong and that it should read "boarder" and not brother. Also, on the 1881 census for John and Christina, I note that Dugald and Janet from John's marriage to Margaret McDonald are living with them, and their marriage cert shows John living at Tormore and Christina at Deargphort, where the rest of the Vass family were at the time. Keep up the good work! June. > From: lmtowne@alltel.net> To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:44:44 -0500> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] John McCormick a shoemaker m's Margaret McGilvra , a quarrier m's Margaret McDonald , a quarrier Christina Vass> > Ida - > I'm printing out your email to look more closely at and digest. I have John> MacCormick b.1830 (par: John MacCormick and Margaret Black) m. to 1) (bef.> 1859) Margaret (no details except children) and 2) (1973) Christina Vass.> It's a collateral line to mine; I descend through one of his brothers.> > If I can shed any light once I look more closely at your information, I'll> post. In the meantime, I'll be following this thread closely.> > Linda (MacCormick) Towne> > -----Original Message-----> From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merle & Ida King> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:26 PM> To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] John McCormick a shoemaker m's! Margaret McGilvra> ,a quarrier m's Margaret McDonald , a quarrier Christina Vass> > Hi June and others> > Maybe with the lists help you'll be able to make some strides here. > Hopefully the formatting will come out alright.> > This John McCormick :-(> > Marriage 2 June 1853, John McCormick and Margaret McGilvra both residing > in Catchean. [Iona ].> > Daughter of Donald McGilvray, Farmer in Tirergan and Isabel McArthur. > Married John McCormick, shoemaker. She died 1 July 1855 of delirium of 7 > weeks' duration, with one child, Margaret McCormick aged 8 weeks at her > mother's death. Reg. Catchean. Info. John McCormick, husband. aged 19 > born Tirergan, This parts fine :-)> > Their daughter Margaret was b/c May 11 1855 I believe she m's Neil > McInnis via this census trail he makes things really complicated :-[ is > he a nephew/cousin or son in law or grandson> > Margaret is found in 1861 Ferry House Iona in grandparents Donald > McGilvra and Isabel McArthur h/h via daught! ers death above> McGilvray Donald 70 Head Ferryman Argyllshire Kilfini chen 4 Mar> McGilvray Isobel 60 Wife Argyllshire Kilfinichen 4 Mar McArthur m Feb 1 1820> McGilvray Neil 30 Son Agricultural Labourer Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar Feb > 24 1826> McGilvray Marrion 21 Dau Domestic Servant Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar> McCormick Margaret 6 Grand Daughter Scholar Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar May > 11 1855 later m's Neil McInnis> > 1871 census note who's next door> Finnaphort 3 Vass William 52 Head Quarrier Renfrewshire 3 Mar 1851, 1861 > Ardfenaig KLF, 1881 Deargphort KLF> Finnaphort 3 Vass Jane 62 Wife Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 Mar Livingston> Finnaphort 3 Vass Christina 24 Dau Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 UnMar m's > John McCormick> Finnaphort 3 Vass Jessie 1 Grandchild Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 May 19 > 1869 Iona> Finnaphort 3 Stewart James 35 Brother Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 Mar > ?????Haven't figured out who he belongs to> Finnaphort 4 McGillivary Niel 41 Head Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 > UnMar other census has them from Iona> Finnaphort 4 McCor! mick Margaret 16 Niece Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 > UnMar May 11 1855 d/o John & Margaret McGilvra marriage for John > McCormick and Christina Vass later in this item.> > 1881 census> 8 Fionaphort McGillivary Neil 38 Head Ferryman Iona Parish Of, Argyll, > Scotland 9 M 1826-1901> 8 Fionaphort McCormick Maggie 25 Niece House Keeper Iona Parish Of, > Argyll, Scotland 9 F May 11 1855 m's Neil McInnis aft 1881> > 1891 census> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McGillivray Neil 42 Head Ferryman Iona 9 UnMar > 1826-1901> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Neil 30 Quarryman 9 Mar Aug 23 1860 > 1871 West End Iona 1881 Farm House Iona, 1901 Fionnaphort Iona> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Maggie 36 Niece Quarryman's wife 9 Mar > McCormick b May 11 1855> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Donald 11 Grand nephew Scholar 9 these > have disappeared in 1901> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Mary 6 Grand niece Scholar 9 these have > disappeared in 1901> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Archd 4 Gr! and nephew 9 these have > disappeared in 1901> Fionnphort Seaview Cott . McInnes Neil 2 Grand nephew 9 these have > disappeared in 1901> Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Maggie 7mths Grand niece 9> > 1901> 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Neil 40 Head Farmer Argyll Iona 11 Mar s/o > Archibald McInnis & Mary McCormick 1841 West End Iona, 1851 Nois Iona > 1861 Slignach Iona, 1871 West End Iona> 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Maggie 36 Wife Farmer's wife Lanarkshire > Glasgow 11 Mar McCormick May 11 1855 d/o John McCormick & Margaret > McGilvra 1881 Farm House Fionnaphort Iona, 1901 Fionnaphort Iona> 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Maggie 5 Dau Argyll Iona 11> 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Ann 66 Aunt General Domestic Servant Argyll > Iona 11 Widow McDonald husb Alexander 1861 Runaich, 1871 Ruanith, 1881 > Ruanich, 1891 Crofters cottage Iona> 1 West End Ruanick Kemp Thomas 16 Servant Farm Servant Lanarkshire > Glasgow 11 Single> 1 West End Ruanick Kemp Agnes 14 Boarder Scholar Lanarkshire Glasgow 11> 1 West End Ruanick Anderson Joseph 14 Boarder Scholar Lanarkshire! > Glasgow 11> > John McCormick aged 41 Quarrier widower Tormore Ross Mull, Father John > McCormick mother Marg. or Mary McCormick M/S Rose. the certificate > definitely states ROSE married 6 Nov. 1873 Christina Vass 24. Deargphort > Ross Mull Father William Vass Quarrier, mother Jane Vass M/S Livingston > deceased (Was this John born on Mull ????)> > Their son William McCormick was born 29 Oct. 1874 at Catchean. and > appears in 1891 Crofters Cottage Iona in Alexander McInnes & Ann > McDonald's house....> > Death of Christina McCormick, 24 Mar. 1894, married to John McCormick, > Quarrier at Creich, aged 45. Her father William Vass, crofter. Her > mother Jane Livingstone (dec.) info. John McCormick, husband.> > death 2 April 1894, John Alexander Vass McCormick, aged 10 months, at > Creich. Father John McCormick, quarrier. Mother Jane (?) McCormick M/S > Vass. He died of Tubercular peritonitis. Info. John McCormick, father. > (This one should read Christina McCormick M/S Vas! s)> > Death of John McCormick, quarrier, widower of Christina Vass, 19 Apr. > 1908 aged 78 at Tormore. Father John McCormick, schoolmaster, dec. > Mother Maggie Black, dec. He died of heart disease. Info. Neil McInnes, > grandson.> (Maybe this Maggie Black was a Rose but remarried but not necessarlily > the same as the following.)> > Mar 31 1859, Deagphort, C. of S., John McCormick 29 Catchean, Stone > Quarrier, Widower. Father John McCormick, Farmer. Mother Margaret Black > to Margaret McDonald, 21, Deargphort, Dom. Servt. Father Donald > McDonald, Ship Carpenter. Mother Janet Fletcher [2nd cousins].> > In 1861 Census Bra Bhail Iona> John McCormick Head Marr. 30 Quarrier b. Iona 1R> Margaret McCormick wife 22 Port Glasgow> John McCormick son 4 scholar Tobermory> Donald McCormick " 1 " Iona> > In 1871 Census at Tormore:> John McCormick Head Marr. 36 Quarrier b. Iona 1R> Margaret McCormick wife 33 Port Glasgow> John McCormick son 12 scholar Tobermory> Donald McCormick " 10 " Iona> Dugald McCormick " 8 " "> Janet McCormick dau. 6 "> > Margaret M! acCormick married to John MacCormick, quarry labourer, died > aged 34 on the 19th of January 1873 at Tormore, Kilf. & Kilv. Parents > Donald MacDonald, ship carpenter, dec. and ? Janet MacDonald M/S Janet > Fletcher, dec. Her husband John McCormick, present, signed.> > If this John McCormick was married to the 3 women then he has 17 > children to be account for.> > John m's Margaret McGilvra (sp) shoemaker this Margaret dies Jul 1 1855> Has Margaret May 11 1855> > John m's Margaret McDonald quarrier> Has John 1857 via the 1861 Bra Bhail census just wonder who he is as the > parents m Mar 31 1859 ??????> Donald Apr 5 1860> Dugald Jan 12 1862> Alexander Oct 14 1863> Janet Jan 6 1866> Coll Mar 19 1868> Coll Jul 8 1870> > John m's Christina Vass quarrier (these June descends through)> Has William Oct 29 1874> Jane 1877> Neil 1878> Duncan 1880> Margaret Black Jun 14 1882> Christina 1886> Joanna 1888> Mary Ann 1889> John Alexander Vass 1893> > 1891 this Alexander McInnes who dies! Feb 12 1895 lists Neil McInnis as a > cousin> Crofters Cottage McInne s Alexr 71 Head Farmer Iona 11 Mar 1819-Feb 12 > 1895 1861 Runaich, 1871 Ruanith, 1881 Ruanich Iona> Crofters Cottage McInnes Ann 55 Wife Farmer's wife 11 Mar McDonald Apr > 13 1835- Oct 1 1911 1901 West End Iona in nephew Neil McInnes & Margaret > McCormick h/h> Crofters Cottage McCormick William 17 Servant Farm Servant Ross Mull 11 > UnMar Oct 29 1874 s/o John McCormick & Christina Vass> Crofters Cottage Drummond Jane 15 Servant Maid Servant Glasgow 11 UnMar> Crofters Cottage Drummond Elija 5 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar> Crofters Cottage Martin William 12 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar> Crofters Cottage Henderson William 13 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar> > My feeling is that this John McCormick did indeed marry Margaret > McGilvra she died leaving a daughter. This John then moved from Mull > returning in 1872-1873 for a visit with his daughter then marries next > door neighbour Christina Vass. 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Ida - I'm printing out your email to look more closely at and digest. I have John MacCormick b.1830 (par: John MacCormick and Margaret Black) m. to 1) (bef. 1859) Margaret (no details except children) and 2) (1973) Christina Vass. It's a collateral line to mine; I descend through one of his brothers. If I can shed any light once I look more closely at your information, I'll post. In the meantime, I'll be following this thread closely. Linda (MacCormick) Towne -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Merle & Ida King Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 7:26 PM To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] John McCormick a shoemaker m's Margaret McGilvra ,a quarrier m's Margaret McDonald , a quarrier Christina Vass Hi June and others Maybe with the lists help you'll be able to make some strides here. Hopefully the formatting will come out alright. This John McCormick :-( Marriage 2 June 1853, John McCormick and Margaret McGilvra both residing in Catchean. [Iona ]. Daughter of Donald McGilvray, Farmer in Tirergan and Isabel McArthur. Married John McCormick, shoemaker. She died 1 July 1855 of delirium of 7 weeks' duration, with one child, Margaret McCormick aged 8 weeks at her mother's death. Reg. Catchean. Info. John McCormick, husband. aged 19 born Tirergan, This parts fine :-) Their daughter Margaret was b/c May 11 1855 I believe she m's Neil McInnis via this census trail he makes things really complicated :-[ is he a nephew/cousin or son in law or grandson Margaret is found in 1861 Ferry House Iona in grandparents Donald McGilvra and Isabel McArthur h/h via daughters death above McGilvray Donald 70 Head Ferryman Argyllshire Kilfinichen 4 Mar McGilvray Isobel 60 Wife Argyllshire Kilfinichen 4 Mar McArthur m Feb 1 1820 McGilvray Neil 30 Son Agricultural Labourer Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar Feb 24 1826 McGilvray Marrion 21 Dau Domestic Servant Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar McCormick Margaret 6 Grand Daughter Scholar Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar May 11 1855 later m's Neil McInnis 1871 census note who's next door Finnaphort 3 Vass William 52 Head Quarrier Renfrewshire 3 Mar 1851, 1861 Ardfenaig KLF, 1881 Deargphort KLF Finnaphort 3 Vass Jane 62 Wife Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 Mar Livingston Finnaphort 3 Vass Christina 24 Dau Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 UnMar m's John McCormick Finnaphort 3 Vass Jessie 1 Grandchild Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 May 19 1869 Iona Finnaphort 3 Stewart James 35 Brother Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 Mar ?????Haven't figured out who he belongs to Finnaphort 4 McGillivary Niel 41 Head Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 UnMar other census has them from Iona Finnaphort 4 McCormick Margaret 16 Niece Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 UnMar May 11 1855 d/o John & Margaret McGilvra marriage for John McCormick and Christina Vass later in this item. 1881 census 8 Fionaphort McGillivary Neil 38 Head Ferryman Iona Parish Of, Argyll, Scotland 9 M 1826-1901 8 Fionaphort McCormick Maggie 25 Niece House Keeper Iona Parish Of, Argyll, Scotland 9 F May 11 1855 m's Neil McInnis aft 1881 1891 census Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McGillivray Neil 42 Head Ferryman Iona 9 UnMar 1826-1901 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Neil 30 Quarryman 9 Mar Aug 23 1860 1871 West End Iona 1881 Farm House Iona, 1901 Fionnaphort Iona Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Maggie 36 Niece Quarryman's wife 9 Mar McCormick b May 11 1855 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Donald 11 Grand nephew Scholar 9 these have disappeared in 1901 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Mary 6 Grand niece Scholar 9 these have disappeared in 1901 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Archd 4 Grand nephew 9 these have disappeared in 1901 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Neil 2 Grand nephew 9 these have disappeared in 1901 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Maggie 7mths Grand niece 9 1901 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Neil 40 Head Farmer Argyll Iona 11 Mar s/o Archibald McInnis & Mary McCormick 1841 West End Iona, 1851 Nois Iona 1861 Slignach Iona, 1871 West End Iona 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Maggie 36 Wife Farmer's wife Lanarkshire Glasgow 11 Mar McCormick May 11 1855 d/o John McCormick & Margaret McGilvra 1881 Farm House Fionnaphort Iona, 1901 Fionnaphort Iona 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Maggie 5 Dau Argyll Iona 11 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Ann 66 Aunt General Domestic Servant Argyll Iona 11 Widow McDonald husb Alexander 1861 Runaich, 1871 Ruanith, 1881 Ruanich, 1891 Crofters cottage Iona 1 West End Ruanick Kemp Thomas 16 Servant Farm Servant Lanarkshire Glasgow 11 Single 1 West End Ruanick Kemp Agnes 14 Boarder Scholar Lanarkshire Glasgow 11 1 West End Ruanick Anderson Joseph 14 Boarder Scholar Lanarkshire Glasgow 11 John McCormick aged 41 Quarrier widower Tormore Ross Mull, Father John McCormick mother Marg. or Mary McCormick M/S Rose. the certificate definitely states ROSE married 6 Nov. 1873 Christina Vass 24. Deargphort Ross Mull Father William Vass Quarrier, mother Jane Vass M/S Livingston deceased (Was this John born on Mull ????) Their son William McCormick was born 29 Oct. 1874 at Catchean. and appears in 1891 Crofters Cottage Iona in Alexander McInnes & Ann McDonald's house.... Death of Christina McCormick, 24 Mar. 1894, married to John McCormick, Quarrier at Creich, aged 45. Her father William Vass, crofter. Her mother Jane Livingstone (dec.) info. John McCormick, husband. death 2 April 1894, John Alexander Vass McCormick, aged 10 months, at Creich. Father John McCormick, quarrier. Mother Jane (?) McCormick M/S Vass. He died of Tubercular peritonitis. Info. John McCormick, father. (This one should read Christina McCormick M/S Vass) Death of John McCormick, quarrier, widower of Christina Vass, 19 Apr. 1908 aged 78 at Tormore. Father John McCormick, schoolmaster, dec. Mother Maggie Black, dec. He died of heart disease. Info. Neil McInnes, grandson. (Maybe this Maggie Black was a Rose but remarried but not necessarlily the same as the following.) Mar 31 1859, Deagphort, C. of S., John McCormick 29 Catchean, Stone Quarrier, Widower. Father John McCormick, Farmer. Mother Margaret Black to Margaret McDonald, 21, Deargphort, Dom. Servt. Father Donald McDonald, Ship Carpenter. Mother Janet Fletcher [2nd cousins]. In 1861 Census Bra Bhail Iona John McCormick Head Marr. 30 Quarrier b. Iona 1R Margaret McCormick wife 22 Port Glasgow John McCormick son 4 scholar Tobermory Donald McCormick " 1 " Iona In 1871 Census at Tormore: John McCormick Head Marr. 36 Quarrier b. Iona 1R Margaret McCormick wife 33 Port Glasgow John McCormick son 12 scholar Tobermory Donald McCormick " 10 " Iona Dugald McCormick " 8 " " Janet McCormick dau. 6 " Margaret MacCormick married to John MacCormick, quarry labourer, died aged 34 on the 19th of January 1873 at Tormore, Kilf. & Kilv. Parents Donald MacDonald, ship carpenter, dec. and ? Janet MacDonald M/S Janet Fletcher, dec. Her husband John McCormick, present, signed. If this John McCormick was married to the 3 women then he has 17 children to be account for. John m's Margaret McGilvra (sp) shoemaker this Margaret dies Jul 1 1855 Has Margaret May 11 1855 John m's Margaret McDonald quarrier Has John 1857 via the 1861 Bra Bhail census just wonder who he is as the parents m Mar 31 1859 ?????? Donald Apr 5 1860 Dugald Jan 12 1862 Alexander Oct 14 1863 Janet Jan 6 1866 Coll Mar 19 1868 Coll Jul 8 1870 John m's Christina Vass quarrier (these June descends through) Has William Oct 29 1874 Jane 1877 Neil 1878 Duncan 1880 Margaret Black Jun 14 1882 Christina 1886 Joanna 1888 Mary Ann 1889 John Alexander Vass 1893 1891 this Alexander McInnes who dies Feb 12 1895 lists Neil McInnis as a cousin Crofters Cottage McInnes Alexr 71 Head Farmer Iona 11 Mar 1819-Feb 12 1895 1861 Runaich, 1871 Ruanith, 1881 Ruanich Iona Crofters Cottage McInnes Ann 55 Wife Farmer's wife 11 Mar McDonald Apr 13 1835- Oct 1 1911 1901 West End Iona in nephew Neil McInnes & Margaret McCormick h/h Crofters Cottage McCormick William 17 Servant Farm Servant Ross Mull 11 UnMar Oct 29 1874 s/o John McCormick & Christina Vass Crofters Cottage Drummond Jane 15 Servant Maid Servant Glasgow 11 UnMar Crofters Cottage Drummond Elija 5 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar Crofters Cottage Martin William 12 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar Crofters Cottage Henderson William 13 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar My feeling is that this John McCormick did indeed marry Margaret McGilvra she died leaving a daughter. This John then moved from Mull returning in 1872-1873 for a visit with his daughter then marries next door neighbour Christina Vass. Another error was placed by the famous Neil McInnes this time a grandson.... Any help greatly appreciated Ida ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List - I think I sent this incorrectly the first time; please excuse duplication. Listers - Can you recommend to me any available literature on the history of the Ross of Mull? (I do have Carol Riddell's "History of Tireragan Township, Ross of Mull," Jo Currie's "Mull, the Island and its People," and the book "Tea with Chrissie" by Rosalind Jones, all of which I recommend.) Thanks, Karen

Hi June and others Maybe with the lists help you'll be able to make some strides here. Hopefully the formatting will come out alright. This John McCormick :-( Marriage 2 June 1853, John McCormick and Margaret McGilvra both residing in Catchean. [Iona ]. Daughter of Donald McGilvray, Farmer in Tirergan and Isabel McArthur. Married John McCormick, shoemaker. She died 1 July 1855 of delirium of 7 weeks' duration, with one child, Margaret McCormick aged 8 weeks at her mother's death. Reg. Catchean. Info. John McCormick, husband. aged 19 born Tirergan, This parts fine :-) Their daughter Margaret was b/c May 11 1855 I believe she m's Neil McInnis via this census trail he makes things really complicated :-[ is he a nephew/cousin or son in law or grandson Margaret is found in 1861 Ferry House Iona in grandparents Donald McGilvra and Isabel McArthur h/h via daughters death above McGilvray Donald 70 Head Ferryman Argyllshire Kilfinichen 4 Mar McGilvray Isobel 60 Wife Argyllshire Kilfinichen 4 Mar McArthur m Feb 1 1820 McGilvray Neil 30 Son Agricultural Labourer Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar Feb 24 1826 McGilvray Marrion 21 Dau Domestic Servant Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar McCormick Margaret 6 Grand Daughter Scholar Argyllshire Iona 4 UnMar May 11 1855 later m's Neil McInnis 1871 census note who's next door Finnaphort 3 Vass William 52 Head Quarrier Renfrewshire 3 Mar 1851, 1861 Ardfenaig KLF, 1881 Deargphort KLF Finnaphort 3 Vass Jane 62 Wife Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 Mar Livingston Finnaphort 3 Vass Christina 24 Dau Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 UnMar m's John McCormick Finnaphort 3 Vass Jessie 1 Grandchild Argyllshire Kilfinichen 3 May 19 1869 Iona Finnaphort 3 Stewart James 35 Brother Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 Mar ?????Haven't figured out who he belongs to Finnaphort 4 McGillivary Niel 41 Head Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 UnMar other census has them from Iona Finnaphort 4 McCormick Margaret 16 Niece Mason Aberdeenshire Nashills 3 UnMar May 11 1855 d/o John & Margaret McGilvra marriage for John McCormick and Christina Vass later in this item. 1881 census 8 Fionaphort McGillivary Neil 38 Head Ferryman Iona Parish Of, Argyll, Scotland 9 M 1826-1901 8 Fionaphort McCormick Maggie 25 Niece House Keeper Iona Parish Of, Argyll, Scotland 9 F May 11 1855 m's Neil McInnis aft 1881 1891 census Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McGillivray Neil 42 Head Ferryman Iona 9 UnMar 1826-1901 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Neil 30 Quarryman 9 Mar Aug 23 1860 1871 West End Iona 1881 Farm House Iona, 1901 Fionnaphort Iona Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Maggie 36 Niece Quarryman's wife 9 Mar McCormick b May 11 1855 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Donald 11 Grand nephew Scholar 9 these have disappeared in 1901 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Mary 6 Grand niece Scholar 9 these have disappeared in 1901 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Archd 4 Grand nephew 9 these have disappeared in 1901 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Neil 2 Grand nephew 9 these have disappeared in 1901 Fionnphort Seaview Cott. McInnes Maggie 7mths Grand niece 9 1901 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Neil 40 Head Farmer Argyll Iona 11 Mar s/o Archibald McInnis & Mary McCormick 1841 West End Iona, 1851 Nois Iona 1861 Slignach Iona, 1871 West End Iona 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Maggie 36 Wife Farmer's wife Lanarkshire Glasgow 11 Mar McCormick May 11 1855 d/o John McCormick & Margaret McGilvra 1881 Farm House Fionnaphort Iona, 1901 Fionnaphort Iona 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Maggie 5 Dau Argyll Iona 11 1 West End Ruanick McInnes Ann 66 Aunt General Domestic Servant Argyll Iona 11 Widow McDonald husb Alexander 1861 Runaich, 1871 Ruanith, 1881 Ruanich, 1891 Crofters cottage Iona 1 West End Ruanick Kemp Thomas 16 Servant Farm Servant Lanarkshire Glasgow 11 Single 1 West End Ruanick Kemp Agnes 14 Boarder Scholar Lanarkshire Glasgow 11 1 West End Ruanick Anderson Joseph 14 Boarder Scholar Lanarkshire Glasgow 11 John McCormick aged 41 Quarrier widower Tormore Ross Mull, Father John McCormick mother Marg. or Mary McCormick M/S Rose. the certificate definitely states ROSE married 6 Nov. 1873 Christina Vass 24. Deargphort Ross Mull Father William Vass Quarrier, mother Jane Vass M/S Livingston deceased (Was this John born on Mull ????) Their son William McCormick was born 29 Oct. 1874 at Catchean. and appears in 1891 Crofters Cottage Iona in Alexander McInnes & Ann McDonald's house.... Death of Christina McCormick, 24 Mar. 1894, married to John McCormick, Quarrier at Creich, aged 45. Her father William Vass, crofter. Her mother Jane Livingstone (dec.) info. John McCormick, husband. death 2 April 1894, John Alexander Vass McCormick, aged 10 months, at Creich. Father John McCormick, quarrier. Mother Jane (?) McCormick M/S Vass. He died of Tubercular peritonitis. Info. John McCormick, father. (This one should read Christina McCormick M/S Vass) Death of John McCormick, quarrier, widower of Christina Vass, 19 Apr. 1908 aged 78 at Tormore. Father John McCormick, schoolmaster, dec. Mother Maggie Black, dec. He died of heart disease. Info. Neil McInnes, grandson. (Maybe this Maggie Black was a Rose but remarried but not necessarlily the same as the following.) Mar 31 1859, Deagphort, C. of S., John McCormick 29 Catchean, Stone Quarrier, Widower. Father John McCormick, Farmer. Mother Margaret Black to Margaret McDonald, 21, Deargphort, Dom. Servt. Father Donald McDonald, Ship Carpenter. Mother Janet Fletcher [2nd cousins]. In 1861 Census Bra Bhail Iona John McCormick Head Marr. 30 Quarrier b. Iona 1R Margaret McCormick wife 22 Port Glasgow John McCormick son 4 scholar Tobermory Donald McCormick " 1 " Iona In 1871 Census at Tormore: John McCormick Head Marr. 36 Quarrier b. Iona 1R Margaret McCormick wife 33 Port Glasgow John McCormick son 12 scholar Tobermory Donald McCormick " 10 " Iona Dugald McCormick " 8 " " Janet McCormick dau. 6 " Margaret MacCormick married to John MacCormick, quarry labourer, died aged 34 on the 19th of January 1873 at Tormore, Kilf. & Kilv. Parents Donald MacDonald, ship carpenter, dec. and ? Janet MacDonald M/S Janet Fletcher, dec. Her husband John McCormick, present, signed. If this John McCormick was married to the 3 women then he has 17 children to be account for. John m's Margaret McGilvra (sp) shoemaker this Margaret dies Jul 1 1855 Has Margaret May 11 1855 John m's Margaret McDonald quarrier Has John 1857 via the 1861 Bra Bhail census just wonder who he is as the parents m Mar 31 1859 ?????? Donald Apr 5 1860 Dugald Jan 12 1862 Alexander Oct 14 1863 Janet Jan 6 1866 Coll Mar 19 1868 Coll Jul 8 1870 John m's Christina Vass quarrier (these June descends through) Has William Oct 29 1874 Jane 1877 Neil 1878 Duncan 1880 Margaret Black Jun 14 1882 Christina 1886 Joanna 1888 Mary Ann 1889 John Alexander Vass 1893 1891 this Alexander McInnes who dies Feb 12 1895 lists Neil McInnis as a cousin Crofters Cottage McInnes Alexr 71 Head Farmer Iona 11 Mar 1819-Feb 12 1895 1861 Runaich, 1871 Ruanith, 1881 Ruanich Iona Crofters Cottage McInnes Ann 55 Wife Farmer's wife 11 Mar McDonald Apr 13 1835- Oct 1 1911 1901 West End Iona in nephew Neil McInnes & Margaret McCormick h/h Crofters Cottage McCormick William 17 Servant Farm Servant Ross Mull 11 UnMar Oct 29 1874 s/o John McCormick & Christina Vass Crofters Cottage Drummond Jane 15 Servant Maid Servant Glasgow 11 UnMar Crofters Cottage Drummond Elija 5 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar Crofters Cottage Martin William 12 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar Crofters Cottage Henderson William 13 Boarder Scholar 11 UnMar My feeling is that this John McCormick did indeed marry Margaret McGilvra she died leaving a daughter. This John then moved from Mull returning in 1872-1873 for a visit with his daughter then marries next door neighbour Christina Vass. Another error was placed by the famous Neil McInnes this time a grandson.... Any help greatly appreciated Ida

Hi Listers - Can you recommend literature available on the history of the Ross of Mull? I do have Carol Riddell's "History of Tireragan Township, ROM," Jo Currie's "Mull, the Island and its People," and the book "Tea with Chrissie" by Rosalind Jones, all of which I recommend. Thanks, Karen

Hi Ida and Edwin, THE Allendean could possibly be Allendale which is just over on the South Australian side of the SA Vic border. Will have a look for any corresponding births in South Aust. Allendale is on the outskirts of Mt Gambier which should show on your maps. Cheers Jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Edwin Maclean Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2008 1:48 PM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDonald children born in Allentean, Victoria Co., Aust. ??? Hi Ida These may be your family: Index to Unassisted Immigrants to Victoria: Ship "Marco Polo" arrived Sep 1852 with: Angus McDonald, age 44 Ann McDonald, age 28 Fiche 007, page 017. Index to Outward Passengers from Victoria: Ship "Jane" left Jan 1860 for London with: McDonald Mrs age 38 McDonald Angus " 45 McDonald Angus " 3 McDonald Mary " 1 Casterton, birthplace of Unnamed McDonald is in Western Victoria near South Australian border, no place called Allentean in Gazeteer of Victoia and cannot place the name or similar. Regards Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle & Ida King" <m_iking@telusplanet.net> To: "SCT-ISLEOFMULL" <SCT-ISLEOFMULL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:08 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDonald children born in Allentean, Victoria Co.,Aust. ??? > Hi All > > I hope you've all had a Happy Holiday Season. > > Does anyone descend through this family. > > I'm not sure if this is Ann McKinnon or Ann McQuarrie who is the spouse > of this Angus McDonald who has these children > > Angus married Ann McKinnon Aug 30 1826 in Rossal KLF she dies Feb 1 1879 > aged 62 her husb Angus listed as Herd > > Angus married Ann McQuarrie in Bunessan KLF Jun 24 1852 did they > emigrate to Australia and return bef 1861 ???? > > If any of our Australian researchers has easy access to the birth > records I'd appreciate a look-up for Angus and Mary Ann below. > > 1861 > Bunessan McDonald Angus 52 Head General Merchant > Argyllshire Appin 6 > Bunessan McDonald Ann 40 Wife General Merchant > Argyllshire Burg Ardmeanach 6 > Bunessan McDonald Angus 5 Son Allentean, Victoria, > Aust 6 > Bunessan McDonald Mary Ann 2 Dau Allentean, Victoria, > Aust 6 > > Next door is > Bunessan McQuarrie Mary 77 Head **** Widow of the late > Capt McQuarrie ***** Argyllshire Kilfinichen 6 Shaw husb > Lachlan 1851 Bunessan KLF Jul 7 1777-Feb 28 1865 > Bunessan McQuarrie Marrion 20 Grand Daughter Dressmaker > Argyllshire Kilfinichen 6 > Bunessan Rose Mary 20 Servant Domestic Servant > Argyllshire Kilfinichen 6 > > thanks > Ida > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ida These may be your family: Index to Unassisted Immigrants to Victoria: Ship "Marco Polo" arrived Sep 1852 with: Angus McDonald, age 44 Ann McDonald, age 28 Fiche 007, page 017. Index to Outward Passengers from Victoria: Ship "Jane" left Jan 1860 for London with: McDonald Mrs age 38 McDonald Angus " 45 McDonald Angus " 3 McDonald Mary " 1 Casterton, birthplace of Unnamed McDonald is in Western Victoria near South Australian border, no place called Allentean in Gazeteer of Victoia and cannot place the name or similar. Regards Edwin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle & Ida King" <m_iking@telusplanet.net> To: "SCT-ISLEOFMULL" <SCT-ISLEOFMULL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:08 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDonald children born in Allentean, Victoria Co.,Aust. ??? > Hi All > > I hope you've all had a Happy Holiday Season. > > Does anyone descend through this family. > > I'm not sure if this is Ann McKinnon or Ann McQuarrie who is the spouse > of this Angus McDonald who has these children > > Angus married Ann McKinnon Aug 30 1826 in Rossal KLF she dies Feb 1 1879 > aged 62 her husb Angus listed as Herd > > Angus married Ann McQuarrie in Bunessan KLF Jun 24 1852 did they > emigrate to Australia and return bef 1861 ???? > > If any of our Australian researchers has easy access to the birth > records I'd appreciate a look-up for Angus and Mary Ann below. > > 1861 > Bunessan McDonald Angus 52 Head General Merchant > Argyllshire Appin 6 > Bunessan McDonald Ann 40 Wife General Merchant > Argyllshire Burg Ardmeanach 6 > Bunessan McDonald Angus 5 Son Allentean, Victoria, > Aust 6 > Bunessan McDonald Mary Ann 2 Dau Allentean, Victoria, > Aust 6 > > Next door is > Bunessan McQuarrie Mary 77 Head **** Widow of the late > Capt McQuarrie ***** Argyllshire Kilfinichen 6 Shaw husb > Lachlan 1851 Bunessan KLF Jul 7 1777-Feb 28 1865 > Bunessan McQuarrie Marrion 20 Grand Daughter Dressmaker > Argyllshire Kilfinichen 6 > Bunessan Rose Mary 20 Servant Domestic Servant > Argyllshire Kilfinichen 6 > > thanks > Ida > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ida, The only birth entry I can locate for Angus McDonald and Ann McQuarrie in Victoria, Australia, is as follows: McDONALD Unnamed female B ANGUS and ANN MCQUARRIES at CASTERTON in 1858 Registration No is 13014. The birth certificate can be ordered online. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Merle & Ida King Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2008 9:09 AM To: SCT-ISLEOFMULL Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDonald children born in Allentean, Victoria Co.,Aust. ??? Hi All I hope you've all had a Happy Holiday Season. Does anyone descend through this family. I'm not sure if this is Ann McKinnon or Ann McQuarrie who is the spouse of this Angus McDonald who has these children Angus married Ann McKinnon Aug 30 1826 in Rossal KLF she dies Feb 1 1879 aged 62 her husb Angus listed as Herd Angus married Ann McQuarrie in Bunessan KLF Jun 24 1852 did they emigrate to Australia and return bef 1861 ???? If any of our Australian researchers has easy access to the birth records I'd appreciate a look-up for Angus and Mary Ann below. 1861 Bunessan McDonald Angus 52 Head General Merchant Argyllshire Appin 6 Bunessan McDonald Ann 40 Wife General Merchant Argyllshire Burg Ardmeanach 6 Bunessan McDonald Angus 5 Son Allentean, Victoria, Aust 6 Bunessan McDonald Mary Ann 2 Dau Allentean, Victoria, Aust 6 Next door is Bunessan McQuarrie Mary 77 Head **** Widow of the late Capt McQuarrie ***** Argyllshire Kilfinichen 6 Shaw husb Lachlan 1851 Bunessan KLF Jul 7 1777-Feb 28 1865 Bunessan McQuarrie Marrion 20 Grand Daughter Dressmaker Argyllshire Kilfinichen 6 Bunessan Rose Mary 20 Servant Domestic Servant Argyllshire Kilfinichen 6 thanks Ida ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Barbara, Edwin and Jean Thank you all for helping me piece together another family in the census. Now I just have to figure out how or if Ann McQuarrie is connected to Lachaln McQuarrie & Mary Shaw :-[ thanks again Ida

With Alasdairs permission to reprint here. For those who attended Mugg2006 and had the pleasure of being served wine by Sir Lachlan and Lady Mary. They will remember what a gracious person she was. Our sincere condolences to the family. Alasdair also mentioned that he is still working on the condolence book. Ida >> Alasdair White wrote: Alasdair White <alasdair.white@pm-solutions.com> >> >>> Dear Macleans worldwide >>> >>> It is with great sadness that I have to tell you that Lady Mary, >>> wife of Sir Lachlan Maclean of Duart and Morvern, 28th Chief of Clan >>> Gillean, passed away on the morning of 30th December 2007 after a >>> long illness. She and the Chief were spending Christmas with their >>> daughter Emma, the Maid of Morvern, in the south of England and, >>> fortunately, the whole family were with Lady Mary at the end. >>> >>> The funeral will be in the afternoon of Wednesday 9th January 2008 >>> at St John's Episcopal Church, Princes Street, Perth, Scotland. The >>> Clan Maclean Association in Scotland will send a wreath on behalf of >>> all Macleans worldwide and will represent all of us. >>> >>> I am arranging for a book of condolence to be opened on >>> www.maclean.org as soon as possible for those who wish to leave a >>> message, and at the end of January this will be passed to the Chief >>> and his family. >>> >>> Our thoughts are with the Chief and his family at this time - may >>> Lady Mary rest in peace. >>> >>> Alasdair White >>> President >>> MacleanNet >>> >> >> >>