I shall try to present this logically. In the 1841 census of the quoad sacra of Iona, in the Creich area, we see in Gorstenarm.? the following household; Finlay Macmillan 20 Crofter Bell do. 50 Mary do 20 Catherine do 15 Jess do 13 James do 20 Ag. Lab. John do 20 Mary was Finlay's wife, a McInnes. They, James and Mary's parents (Dugald and Janet) and siblings emigrated to Lochaber, Quebec, Canada where several Ross of Mull families had already settled. A local history says they arrived in 1842 but they were not early enough for the 1842 Canadian census. The 1851 census for Lochaber is missing. The 1861 census lists Finlay 40 Farmer Mary 40 Isabella 14 Arch. 12 Marian 10 Christina 8 Donald 6 house built in 1844 James 38 Farmer Flora 32 Isabella 8 Sally 6 Rebecca 2 Marian 14 house built in 1848 All the children and James' wife were born in Canada East, now Quebec province. Finlay died in 1868. In the 1881 census Archie, Donald and Bell were still at home and single. James and Flora had Catherine (19) and Flora (17) in their household. Most of them were now Baptist rather than Church of Scotland. There are 5 MacMillans in the cemetery in marked graves including Isabella McDonald, wife of Archibald McMillan, died in 1868, aged 87, who might be the Bell of the Creich census who arrived at a later date. As a child my mother was very close to Finlay's daughter Christina then an old lady married to Hugh McNeil (an Irish McNeil). Christina's brothers had gone west and established a prosperous bakery in Victoria, British Columbia. Christina and her husband had tried that too but had preferred to return and take over the family farm. They died in 1928.

Hi JeanetJean and Libby JeanetJean could you expand a bit more on this statement about the parents JeanetJean wrote: >Mary was Finlay's wife, a McInnes. They, James and Mary's parents (Dugald >and Janet) and siblings emigrated to Lochaber, Quebec, Canada where several >Ross of Mull families had already settled. A local history says they arrived >in 1842 but they were not early enough for the 1842 Canadian census. > Just to throw a bit of confusion as to who I believe this family in Iona belongs to. 23 May 1809, Archibald McMillan in Creich and Isabel McDonald in Creich were married. Janet McMillan. 24 Jan. 1811, Archibald McMillan in Creich and Isabel McDonald Ann McMillan 3 Nov. 1813, Archibald McMillan in Creich and Isabel McDonald . Mary McMillan. 9 Jan. 1816, Archibald McMillan, crofter in Creich and Isabel McDonald Findlay McMillan 12 July 1818, Archibald McMillan, Crofter in Creich and Isabella McDonald . James McMillan. 22 Apr. 1820, Archibald McMillan, Crofter in Creich and Isabel McDonald Archibald McMillan. 23 June 1822, Archibald McMillan, Crofter in Creich and Isabel McDonald Catharine McMillan 16 May. 1824, Archibald McMillan, Crofter in Creich and Isabel McDonald . Janet McMillan 19 Feb. 1827, Archibald McMillan, crofter, Creich and Isabel McDonald . Death, 27 Feb. 1839, Archibald McMillan, crofter, Creich died this could explain why he's not in the census below 1841 census Iona Gorstanaronich 34 Macmillan Finlay 20 Crofter Y Jul 12 1818 Gorstanaronich 34 Macmillan Bell 50 Y husb Archibald m May 23 1809 Gorstanaronich 34 Macmillan Mary 20 Y Jan 9 1816 Gorstanaronich 34 Macmillan Cathrine 15 Y May 16 1824 Gorstanaronich 34 Macmillan Janet 13 Y Janet Feb 19 1827 Gorstanaronich 34 Macmillan James 20 Agric Labourer Y Apr 22 1820 Gorstanaronich 34 Macmillan John 20 Y N/E Which leads me to believe this Finlay McMillan of Creich marries Mary McLean Apr 5 1843 In Iona. They have a daugher Mar 14 1844 but this daughter dies 3 days later on Mar 17 1844 There is however another Finlay that might fit the bill as I haven't found a trace of him after 1841 2 Mar. 1813, John McMillan, Crofter, 'Uisgen' and Isobel McDonald in Uisgen were married Duncan McMillan 14 June 1814, John McMillan, Crofter, Ardchiavaig and Isobel McDonald . Findlay McMillan. 19 Aug. 1816, John McMillan, Crofter, Ardchiavaig and Isabella McDonald Ann McMillan 10 Apr. 1819, John McMillan, Crofter in Ardchiavaig and Isabella McDonald John McMillan 5 Aug. 1821, John McMillan, Crofter, Ardchiavaig and Isobel McDonald . Archibald McMillan 13 June 1824, John McMillan, Crofter, Ardchiavaig and Isobel McDonald . Neil McMillan 30 Nov. 1826, John McMIllan, Crofter, Ardchiavaig and Isabella McDonald Janet McMillan 1 Nov. 1829, John McMillan, Crofter, Ardchiavaig and Isabella McDonald . Isabella McMillan 23 Dec. 1832, John McMillan, Ardchiavaig and Isabella McDonald . Isabel McDonald must die after the birth of Isabel in 1832 as he marries Cirsty Bell in Feb 9 1836 1841 KLF Ardchiavaig 4 McMillan John 48 Ag Labourer Y He to Canada m Isabel McDonald Mar 2 1813 Ardchiavaig 4 McMillan Christina 45 Y 1851 Lee Ardtun KLF Bell m Feb 9 1836 # 2 m Ardchiavaig 4 McMillan Archibald 15 Y Jun 13 1824 Ardchiavaig 4 McMillan Neil 13 Y Nov 30 1826 Ardchiavaig 4 McMillan Isabella 8 Y Dec 23 1832 Ardchiavaig 4 McMillan Malcolm 4 Y Mar 23 1836 mother Christina Bell Ida

Morning All I have been following this thread with interest. My paternal great grandmother was called Catherine Maclean, and her brother Hector was a Baptist, and might even have been a lay preacher, but I may be mistaken in that. The source for this is family oral history. Donald Meek is definitely the authority on this aspect of Mull and Tiree, and indeed his father was the Baptist minister on Tiree. I am not sure if the reason people turned to the Baptist church was similar to the reasons behind the 1843 Church of Scotland disruption, in that they were not in approval of the system of patronage practised by the established church. I also seem to remember reading that there were huge evangelical rallies in Scotland in the Victorian period and that conversion might have been as a result of these. It's a project for another day! James Beaton > From: graudzen@bigpond.net.au> To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 08:01:25 +1100> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McMillans and Free Church&Baptists> > hi> My Hector Campbell from Ardtin was a reformed baptist.There probably quite a > few of them.> It would be interesting to to know why they all turned.> > Gerry> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elizabeth McMillan" <libbymcm@tpg.com.au>> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:31 PM> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McMillans and Free Church&Baptists> > > >> > Dear Jean> > I would very much like to have some background on the MacMillans that> > you mention from the Ross of Mull.> > I look forward to hearing from others about the resources that you> > have identified re the Baptists and Dissenting Evangelists. They> > would make very interesting reading.> > Regards> > Libby McMillan> >>> >> ------------------------------> >>> >> Message: 3> >> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:55:34 +0100> >> From: "JeanetJean" <jeanetjean@wanadoo.fr>> >> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McMilllans & free churches> >> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com>> >> Cc: jeanolive@samoa.ws> >>> >> I am not related to MacMillans but very close friends and neighbours> >> of my> >> family left the Ross of Mull about 1842 for Canada, Finlay and James> >> MacMillan and some in-laws. I know a bit of their background and> >> quite a lot> >> about what happened to them later if that is of interest to you.> >>> >> While on the subject of free churches, I would like to know more> >> about the> >> very first Baptists on Mull of whom my gg-grandfather must have been> >> one.> >> D.E. Meek has some tantalizing titles in the bibliography of> >> "Sunshine and> >> Shadow" but they are probably not easy to find. I believe the> >> University of> >> Edinburgh has Dugald Sinclair's Journals but I was not able to find> >> a trace> >> elsewhere. As for "Evangelicalism and Emigration: Aspects of the> >> Role of> >> Dissenting Evangelicalism in Highland Emigration to Canada, in G;> >> MacLennan> >> [ed.], Proceedings of the First North American Congress of Celtic> >> Studies> >> (Ottawa, 1988), I expect it is rather rare. Has anyone access to> >> either of> >> these?> >>> >> Best wishes, Jean> >>> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml

hi My Hector Campbell from Ardtin was a reformed baptist.There probably quite a few of them. It would be interesting to to know why they all turned. Gerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth McMillan" <libbymcm@tpg.com.au> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:31 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McMillans and Free Church&Baptists > > Dear Jean > I would very much like to have some background on the MacMillans that > you mention from the Ross of Mull. > I look forward to hearing from others about the resources that you > have identified re the Baptists and Dissenting Evangelists. They > would make very interesting reading. > Regards > Libby McMillan >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:55:34 +0100 >> From: "JeanetJean" <jeanetjean@wanadoo.fr> >> Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McMilllans & free churches >> To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: jeanolive@samoa.ws >> >> I am not related to MacMillans but very close friends and neighbours >> of my >> family left the Ross of Mull about 1842 for Canada, Finlay and James >> MacMillan and some in-laws. I know a bit of their background and >> quite a lot >> about what happened to them later if that is of interest to you. >> >> While on the subject of free churches, I would like to know more >> about the >> very first Baptists on Mull of whom my gg-grandfather must have been >> one. >> D.E. Meek has some tantalizing titles in the bibliography of >> "Sunshine and >> Shadow" but they are probably not easy to find. I believe the >> University of >> Edinburgh has Dugald Sinclair's Journals but I was not able to find >> a trace >> elsewhere. As for "Evangelicalism and Emigration: Aspects of the >> Role of >> Dissenting Evangelicalism in Highland Emigration to Canada, in G; >> MacLennan >> [ed.], Proceedings of the First North American Congress of Celtic >> Studies >> (Ottawa, 1988), I expect it is rather rare. Has anyone access to >> either of >> these? >> >> Best wishes, Jean >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi James, Because of computer glitches I may have missed your reply. In the meantime I subbed Marion for Sarah(your email 2/4/08) and found a Murdock and Marion MacNeil as per attachment. Hoping to hear from you soon. Blair Irvine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Irvine" <blair.irvine@sympatico.ca> To: <1517mull@ns.sympatico.ca>; <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Jo Currie | Hi James, | I,m looking for info on info on 4 families that left Mull for Cape Breton | about 1819-20.Murdock MacNeil,his wife Sarah MacKinnon and son Hector(age3) | accompanied by Pattersons,MacDonalds and an unknown family. | All families settled on Bouladrie Island(north side)and at some point | received land grants adjacent to each other in the area where the Seal | Island is. I,m not sure if this area was | considered Inverness at that time.Any info welcome. Regards | Blair Irvine Ontario Canada |

Dear Jean I would very much like to have some background on the MacMillans that you mention from the Ross of Mull. I look forward to hearing from others about the resources that you have identified re the Baptists and Dissenting Evangelists. They would make very interesting reading. Regards Libby McMillan > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:55:34 +0100 > From: "JeanetJean" <jeanetjean@wanadoo.fr> > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McMilllans & free churches > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Cc: jeanolive@samoa.ws > > I am not related to MacMillans but very close friends and neighbours > of my > family left the Ross of Mull about 1842 for Canada, Finlay and James > MacMillan and some in-laws. I know a bit of their background and > quite a lot > about what happened to them later if that is of interest to you. > > While on the subject of free churches, I would like to know more > about the > very first Baptists on Mull of whom my gg-grandfather must have been > one. > D.E. Meek has some tantalizing titles in the bibliography of > "Sunshine and > Shadow" but they are probably not easy to find. I believe the > University of > Edinburgh has Dugald Sinclair's Journals but I was not able to find > a trace > elsewhere. As for "Evangelicalism and Emigration: Aspects of the > Role of > Dissenting Evangelicalism in Highland Emigration to Canada, in G; > MacLennan > [ed.], Proceedings of the First North American Congress of Celtic > Studies > (Ottawa, 1988), I expect it is rather rare. Has anyone access to > either of > these? > > Best wishes, Jean >

I always understood that Prebble's history was very black and white and that Eric Richards takes a much more balanced view. With noteable exceptions, such as Ulva, many of the people who left Mull chose to do so in the hope of a better life "far off in sunlit places". That is not to say that they weren't miserably homesick, but economic necessity drove many of them to join schemes like the HIES and as such they weren't necessarily cleared in the dramatic framework of forced evictions suffered in other parts of the Highlands. The first to leave were the tacksmen who had the means to relocate got out early; I think Jo Currie makes this point in "Mull, the Island and its People". If you are looking for stories of brutal landowners who callously destroyed homes and left aged grandmothers lying in the heather then you'll find Prebble has plenty of these, but by and large many of the lairds of Mull were so poor themselves that they reached a point where they could no longer help their people. Prebble and Richards don't dwell on Mull simply because the clearances mostly took part in other parts of the highlands. Jill

I am not related to MacMillans but very close friends and neighbours of my family left the Ross of Mull about 1842 for Canada, Finlay and James MacMillan and some in-laws. I know a bit of their background and quite a lot about what happened to them later if that is of interest to you. While on the subject of free churches, I would like to know more about the very first Baptists on Mull of whom my gg-grandfather must have been one. D.E. Meek has some tantalizing titles in the bibliography of "Sunshine and Shadow" but they are probably not easy to find. I believe the University of Edinburgh has Dugald Sinclair's Journals but I was not able to find a trace elsewhere. As for "Evangelicalism and Emigration: Aspects of the Role of Dissenting Evangelicalism in Highland Emigration to Canada, in G; MacLennan [ed.], Proceedings of the First North American Congress of Celtic Studies (Ottawa, 1988), I expect it is rather rare. Has anyone access to either of these? Best wishes, Jean

I received this off list and am forwarding it as requested. Linda -----Original Message----- From: michael ford [mailto:manofmull@hotmail.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:49 AM To: lmtowne@alltel.net Subject: Boyd Black hi Linda please pass this info to the list re BLACK BOYD etc. Christina McLean is my G3-grandmother. She married Duncan BOYD 1804 and possibly then Duncan McDONALD later [daughter Ann born 1817 - father McDonald] Ann married Neil Lamont and their youngest, Mary [my G-gran] has her birth mother as Ann McDonald OR Boyd on the certificate. When Ann died in 1901, her father was given as BOYD As for Elizabeth Stewart, she is the daughter of my G4-grandfather William Stewart b. c. 1721 - details all below Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Christina McLEAN Birth : Died : Buried : Father : Mother : Marriage : 1 Duncan BOYD 28 Feb 1804, Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon Marriage : 2 Duncan McDONALD ????? Children : 1 Donald 31 Aug 1806 - 22 Aug 1877, Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon [Ardtun] Dugald 13 Jul 1809 - Children : 2 Ann 17 May 1817 - 14 Jul 1901, Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon [Ardtun] Ann McDONALD [BOYD] Birth : 17 May 1817, Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon Died : 14 Jul 1901, Ardtun Buried : Father : Duncan McDONALD or BOYD Mother : Christina McLEAN Marriage : 1 Neil LAMONT c. 1841, Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon Marriage : 2 John McDONALD 26 Jan 1865, Bunessan Children : 1 Cirsty c. 1842 - Jessie 02 Aug 1845 - 28 Apr 1928, Ardtun Kathy c. 1848 - Ann c. 1852 - 08 Dec 1862, Bunessan Mary 25 Jun 1854 - 11 Jun 1934, Bunessan Death Informant - Jessie Boyd, daughter. Ann [McDonald or Lamont]- aged 88, widow of Neil Lamont. Her father is given as Duncan BOYD. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- Donald BOYD Birth : 31 Aug 1806, Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon Died : 22 Aug 1877, Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon [Ardtun] Buried : Father : Duncan BOYD Mother : Christina McLEAN Marriage : Marion BLACK Children : - Death Informant - Marion Boyd, wife. Donald - aged 76, tailor, married to Marion Black ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- Marion BLACK Birth : 13 May 1813, Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon Died : 11 Jul 1893, Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon [Ardtun] Buried : Father : Lachlan BLACK Mother : Elizabeth STEWART Marriage : 1 unknown McKINNON> [Duncan 02 May 1841, Bothwell, Lanark] ? Marriage : 2 Donald BOYD McDONALD ? 03 Mar 1849, Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon Children : 1 Margaret c. 1842 - Duncan c. 1844 - Death Informant - Neil Black, nephew [son of her brother Lachlan Black/Ann Rose]. Marion - aged 80, pauper, widow of Donald Boyd, tailor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth STEWART Birth : c. 1785, Kilninian & Kilmore Died : Buried : Father : William Og STEWART [b.c. 1721 Acharonich] Mother : Mary LAMONT [William's THIRD wife] Marriage : Lachlan BLACK 26 May 1807, Kilninian & Kilmore Children : Janet 05 Oct 1809 - Marion 13 May 1813 - 11 Jul 1893, Ardtun Catherine 30 Sep 1815 - Lachlan 09 Feb 1818 - 12 May 1900, Ardtun John 01 Mar 1820 - Neil 17 Oct 1822 - Archibald 17 Jan 1825 - Euphemia 02 Nov 1828 - Isabella 09 Aug 1831 - bef 1841 ? 1841 Census 6 Records found Piece: SCT1841/542 Place: Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon-Argyllshire Enumeration District: 4 Civil Parish: Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 4 Page: 16 Address: Ardtun 3rd Division ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks BLACK Lachlan M 60 Agricultural Labourer Argyllshire BLACK Elizabeth F 55 Argyllshire [nee Stewart] BLACK Lachlan M 20 Argyllshire BLACK Archibald M 14 Argyllshire BLACK Euphemia F 10 Argyllshire McPHERSON Marion F 25 Argyllshire [daughter of Neil McPherson/Isabella Stewart {Elizabeth's niece}. She married John McQuarrie in 1849] _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml

Hi Barbara and Jim, Many thanks for your message. I'm just about to go to Bristol to see Clara so I will pass on your congratulations to Jon and Hazel. I'm sure Jenny would be pleased to know that her name has been included. Hazel and Clara are still in hospital as Hazel had a section. They are excepted home on Wednesday. Everything ok otherwise. Not a great deal otherwise to report from Ricky. Mull is still keeping me busy. Also out quite a bit with the U3A fixing problems in members homes. No plans for Mull this year except for usual September fortnight. Thought I might go up for opening of new Ross Centre but all I can get is 'sometime after Easter'. Not much use in making bookings. 'Uncle' Neil is still in Sydney with Bridget. Both are coming over in June to attend a friend of Neil's wedding in Sweden. Jenny's parents have moved to near Jane (Jenny's sister). Makes a great deal of sense and they are requiring more and more help. Trust all is well with you both and your extended family. All the best, Ian

A key text on the clearances : Richards,Eric: "The Highland Clearances" Printed 2000 reprinted 2002 published by Birlinn (www.birlinn.co.uk) (UK 9.99 or USA $17.95) He happens to be a Professor here in S.Australia so there is much detail on lots places where there were significant clearances. It is much more detailed and exact than Prebble. However Mull does not rate a detailed mention. Jean -----Original Message----- From: sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-isleofmull-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Roger and Karen Reede Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 7:55 AM To: sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Mull clearances Hello Elizabeth - I too am interested in the Mull Clearances. I see that Kim responded to you with a suggested book. I would also like to know its name if it is about the Clearances. I should say that I do have John Prebble's book The Highland Clearances, which is good, but not specifically about Mull. - Karen

Just a short note to add that Sarah (or Morag, really with her name often translated as Marion as well as Sarah)Buchanan (1783-1877) of Oban and Achnacroish after her marriage to Peter MacFarlane lived on Mull in Achnacroish, Torosay. She came to be a Baptist prior to emigration to Cape Breton in 1820, perhaps about 1810. She and Buchanan and perhaps MaColl relatives established a small Baptist Church in West Bay, Inverness Co. Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. The congregation did not survive but the descendants continued to have a close affection for the Baptist Church in Nova Scotia even though they attended the Presbyterian Church - one of Sarah Buchanan and Peter MacFarlane's daughter's daughter married a Baptist minister Rev. Wallace MacWalker.

Do any of the census records for Isle of Mull for 1747 to 1837 inclusive include the names of people or are they only counts of people? Malcolm Campbell

Congratulations to Jon and Hazel. How wonderful they included Jenny's (Jennifer) name in little Clara's name. I'm sure Jenny is smiling down upon them. Best wishes to all and especially the proud grandfather. Barbara Dancho On 2/2/08, Ian Phillips <ian.phillips@ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > > Jon and Hazel are pleased to announce the safe arrival of 8lbs 2oz (369 > grams) Clara Evelyn Jennifer at 13.21 GMT today (Saturday) at Bristol. > > Mum, dad, baby and proud new grandparents are doing well. Mum and dad > are having a well earned rest. Jon tells me he has not slept for two > nights. I've told him that he will have to get used to this. > > Ian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jill Thanks for your comments on the Clearances. Thanks for taking the time to write. I am constantly trying to find ways through the brickwalls in my family research in Mull, and so when I hit absolutely solid walls - I tend to move from people to events and history. The process seems to fill in gaps and give me clues. One of these days, another person researching our families will appear in the list - I live in hope! So in the meantime ... Best wishes Libby On 03/02/2008, at 9:02 PM, sct-isleofmull-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > PLEASE don't reply with the whole digest attached. Remember when > replying to a message, which was received through the digest. You'll > have to change the subject line to reflect which message your > responding to. You'll have to cut and paste the necessary > information into a new message then cc the list and original poster. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mull clearances (Jill Dakin) > 2. Clearances and Free Church (Elizabeth McMillan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:45:50 +1000 > From: "Jill Dakin" <jedakin@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Mull clearances > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000b01c866e8$d15b5a50$0100000a@JillDakin> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I always understood that Prebble's history was very black and white > and that > Eric Richards takes a much more balanced view. With noteable > exceptions, > such as Ulva, many of the people who left Mull chose to do so in the > hope of > a better life "far off in sunlit places". That is not to say that > they > weren't miserably homesick, but economic necessity drove many of > them to > join schemes like the HIES and as such they weren't necessarily > cleared in > the dramatic framework of forced evictions suffered in other parts > of the > Highlands. The first to leave were the tacksmen who had the means to > relocate got out early; I think Jo Currie makes this point in > "Mull, the > Island and its People". If you are looking for stories of brutal > landowners who callously destroyed homes and left aged grandmothers > lying in > the heather then you'll find Prebble has plenty of these, but by and > large > many of the lairds of Mull were so poor themselves that they reached > a point > where they could no longer help their people. Prebble and Richards > don't > dwell on Mull simply because the clearances mostly took part in > other parts > of the highlands. > Jill > >

Hi Ida, Yes I'm still here! I checked out James but he is from a different Allan McDonald and Mary McKinnon who married in Glasgow 1870, I presume the same applies to Flora. Doreen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merle & Ida King" <m_iking@telusplanet.net> To: "SCT-ISLEOFMULL" <SCT-ISLEOFMULL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:31 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Allan McDonald & Mary McKinnon > Hi Doreen > > As Doreen Hornsby is listed on the web site as a contact for this line. > I'm hoping she's still here. > > Going through the IGI's I noticed 2 additional children not listed > there. I wonder Doreen if these are yours as well as they are registered > with parents Allan McDonald & Mary McKinnon. > > James McDonald Oct 1 1871 Tobermory C115491, 0722 and Flora May 20 1873 > Tobermory C115491, 0771 neither of these children seem to be in either > the 1871 Breadalbane St. TBR residence or the 1881 High St. TBR residence. > > Your Mary 1820 seems a tad old to have these children but if they had > Lachlan May 2 1860 the possiblilty is there :-[ > > There could be other's that pop up but that's all for now. > > Ida > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>> Thanks to Karen for her suggestion of "the Highland Clearances" by >> Prebble and to Jean Whimp for her suggestion of the following: A >> key text on the clearances : Richards,Eric: "The Highland >> Clearances" Printed 2000 reprinted 2002 published by Birlinn (www.birlinn.co.uk >> ) (UK 9.99 or USA $17.95) He happens to be a Professor here in >> S.Australia so there is much detail on lots places where there were >> significant clearances. I have the first at home, but not the second. It is a a pity that there is not more detailed info on in the Clearances as they affected Mull. It also seems like there is very little on the Free Church too. However, I will keep looking and will certainly follow up on these suggestions. Regards Libby McMillan

My mother, Euphemia MacGilivray, was born in Mull and many years later when visited by a friend who knew her in her childhood she was called "Eric" (phonetic spelling) which I am now told is the gaelic for Euphemia. Could this be a possible answer to the mystery name Eary? Bill (Willie) ---- Please note that I am no longer using my camb1@tinyworld.co.uk email address. Please instead add this one to your address books as my other has will ceased to be active.

Hi Elizabeth Do you perchance have any parentage information on Flora McIntyre? I'm currently researching my brother-in-law's McIntyre family. His great grandfather, Archibald McIntyre, wife Flora, nee McLean, and six children arrived in Vic aboard the "Hornet" in October 1854. Archibald, we think, was baptised at Ruaig, Mull, in August 1801, son of John McIntyre and Mary McLean. Archibald, as above, also married a McLean in March 1835 at Kilninian. Cheers the older of the tworobbos

> Congratulations to the happy couple and all the best of luck to them and > baby Clara. Hope all is going great with you and your are keeping your > vacations to Mull. I still haven't been able to go through all the > papers > I scribbled down while in Scotland and Ireland as I am in the middle of a > huge Dutch project going the genealogy on all the settlers that came here > startiing in 1948- I figure it will be approximately 150 families or more. > Our opening is the 3rd. of May so doubt if they will all be done in time. > Jacqueline > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Phillips" <ian.phillips@ukonline.co.uk> > To: <sct-isleofmull@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 1:24 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] New Arrival > > >> Jon and Hazel are pleased to announce the safe arrival of 8lbs 2oz (369 >> grams) Clara Evelyn Jennifer at 13.21 GMT today (Saturday) at Bristol. >> >> Mum, dad, baby and proud new grandparents are doing well. Mum and dad >> are having a well earned rest. Jon tells me he has not slept for two >> nights. I've told him that he will have to get used to this. >> >> Ian >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLEOFMULL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message