My father and I had very high arches, shoes were and still are a problem. My Great Grandmother was from Mull. Is there any other condition that goes with it? Isabella -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James St.Clair Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2011 7:10 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] medical condiction Re: high arches(pes cavus condition) - recently consulted a neurologist who was much interested in the number of people in my family who have the high arch(technically pes cavus) without any neurological deficit - quite rare. He finds this condition without deficits more frequently in people of Scottish ancestry- can trace my inheritance to my great grandfather Hugh MacFarlane born in 1826 with parents both born on Mull - one Anne Campbell and one Parlan MacFarlane- am uncertain which of them may have had this condition. can identify ten people both living and of previous generations who are descended from Hugh MacFarlane who have this malformation of feet. Does anybody else of Isle of Mull ancestry have this physiological condition? The phenomenon may be of interest to specialists. Jim St.Clair, MacFarlane Farm, Mull River, Nova Scotia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Frances Thanks very much for this. It is very useful. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Caple" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Donald McCormick and Margaret McKinnon hello Margaret and Linda, I couldn't find the marriage for my great grandparents and when e mailing with Jo Currie years ago she told me that there are no records for Baptist marriages/christenings and there were a lot of Baptists on the Ross of Mull, I contacted the Baptists church and was put in touch with a charming elderly gentleman near Inverness who patiently explained to me how records were recorded by Baptist then, basically records were made but frequently renewed the old being destroy, so as people died their records were removed, no help to us!! however Jo Currie also posted on this list years ago and said if you have an ancestor or sibling of an ancestor born in 1855 when registration started in Scotland it is often worth buying the certificate as so much was recorded on certificates that first year, my ggrandfather was born in 1850 so no record but he had a younger sister born March 1855 so I bought her birth cert and yes! my gggrandparents marriage is on it, they married in Shiaba 1844, no month but I had year and place and certainty they were married, Jo Currie did tell me that if I couldn't find a record of a marriage or christening and my family was living on the south side of the Ross then they were very probably Baptists, this is exactly where my family were, I have records prior to 1820 but nothing after until official registration 1855, I hope this helps, Frances, --- On Sat, 30/7/11, margaret <[email protected]> wrote: From: margaret <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Donald McCormick and Margaret McKinnon To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 30 July, 2011, 23:38 I guess so, or perhaps they couldn't be bothered or were too poor to pay the fees. Certainly so in the case of my McKechnie great great grandparents who lived on the Ross of Mull, and for whom we have never been able to trace any marriage record, so concluded they never actually married. Also I believe that Scottish law recognised civil partnerships. According to my Scottish father, Cormick's grandson, if a couple lived together in Scotland for a number of years they were seen as being married in common law and there was less social stigma than say in England. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda M. Towne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Donald McCormick and Margaret McKinnon > Margaret - > Thank you for the additional information. I wonder if there was an > informal 'marriage' without the benefit of the clergy that was later > formalised? Is that something that happened in remote parts of Scotland > the way it did in some other remote parts of the world including > frontier America? I'm finding that the more research I do, the more > questions I have about the customs and life of the times. > > Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since we're discussing various McNiven/MacNiven families, I thought I share my connection. Janet MacNiven (b.1883) married Archibald McArthur (b.12 Mar 1874 to Dugald McArthur/Catherine MacArthur) in 1909. They had six known children: Dugald, Mary K., Neil N., Careiona, Eliddh and Margaret. I know Ida has a 99-year rule for the list so if anyone wants further information on the children, please contact me off-list. Janet MacNiven's parents were: Neil MacNiven (b.1853 Tiree) and Mary McFadyen (b.1855 Tiree d. 1922). They married in 1882 Aedfenaig and had 8 known children (all Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon) Janet b.1883 married Archibald McArthur - discussed above Catherine b. 1885 Hector b.1887 Maggie b. 1888 Flora b. 1890 Jemina b. 1891 Jane b. 1892 Donald b. 1896 In the 1901 census: 1901 Kilfinichen Ardfenaig & North Bay Granite Quarry McNiven Neil 48 Head Farm Bailiff Argyll Tiree McNiven Mary 46 Wife Bailiff's wife Argyll Tiree McNiven Janet 18 Dau Servant Domestic Argyll Kilfinichen **** McNiven Catherine 16 Dau Servant Domestic Argyll Kilfinichen McNiven Hector 14 Son Scholar Argyll Kilfinichen McNiven Maggie 13 Dau Scholar Argyll Kilfinichen McNiven Flora 11 Dau Scholar Argyll Kilfinichen McNiven Jemima 10 Dau Scholar Argyll Kilfinichen McNiven Jane 9 Dau Scholar Argyll Kilfinichen McNiven Donald 5 Son Argyll Kilfinichen If anyone has further information on these McNivens....I would be interested. Thank you Linda -- Linda MacCormick Towne

zI have high arches too and also Planter Facsiatis. My people are from Mull - McLeans/McNeils/McDonalds closest relatives. Jacqueline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank McGonigal" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] medical condiction > Yes ,I have a very high arch which I think may be the cause of my Plantar > Fasciitis which I developed about 6 yrs ago. > I'm now 78. > My McColls came from Mull, Morvern and the isle of Lismore. > > Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. > ~~~~~~~~~ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James St.Clair" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:10 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] medical condiction > > >> Re: high arches(pes cavus condition) - recently consulted a neurologist >> who was much interested in the number of people in my family who have the >> high arch(technically pes cavus) without any neurological deficit - quite >> rare. He finds this condition without deficits more frequently in people >> of Scottish ancestry- can trace my inheritance to my great grandfather >> Hugh MacFarlane born in 1826 with parents both born on Mull - one Anne >> Campbell and one Parlan MacFarlane- am uncertain which of them may have >> had this condition. can identify ten people both living and of previous >> generations who are descended from Hugh MacFarlane who have this >> malformation of feet. >> Does anybody else of Isle of Mull ancestry have this physiological >> condition? >> The phenomenon may be of interest to specialists. >> Jim St.Clair, MacFarlane Farm, Mull River, Nova Scotia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Jim St. Clair I have high arches! My mother - Danish descent - did not..... I have problems shopping for shoes and boots especially. While I don't have any mental deficit (I think), there is dyslexia in the family. My great aunt had almost all her shoes hand made because of her high arches and she could afford the cost. A note - my paternal grandmother was descended from England stock who arrived in the colonies before the tea party in Boston Harbor. My Beatons are from Mull & Skye. Did you ask your doctor what prompted a study on a linkage of high arches & mental deficit? Heather Beaton NYC ORIGINAL LIST MESSAGE DATED 3 AUGUST. Re: high arches(pes cavus condition) - recently consulted a neurologist who was much interested in the number of people in my family who have the high arch(technically pes cavus) without any neurological deficit - quite rare. He finds this condition without deficits more frequently in people of Scottish ancestry- can trace my inheritance to my great grandfather Hugh MacFarlane born in 1826 with parents both born on Mull - one Anne Campbell and one Parlan MacFarlane- am uncertain which of them may have had this condition. can identify ten people both living and of previous generations who are descended from Hugh MacFarlane who have this malformation of feet. Does anybody else of Isle of Mull ancestry have this physiological condition? The phenomenon may be of interest to specialists. Jim St.Clair, MacFarlane Farm, Mull River, Nova Scotia

Thanks Jill, That gives a little more information about this elusive family Marilyn

Also found William McNiven's death on 30th January 1885 aged 77; father Duncan, army sergeant, and mother Marion McLean. he was a tailor in South High Street, Tobermory, and he died of paralysis of the throat. Informant was his son, Duncan McNiven. He is described as widower of Harriet McNiven. Jill

Ann McNiven died a pauper, single, (father Duncan, mother Sarah) at Portmore, on 28 June 1878 aged 80 years [sic] and her brother, Stuart McNiven was informant. If Duncan was in the British army then the records are all held at Kew, London. Jill

Yes ,I have a very high arch which I think may be the cause of my Plantar Fasciitis which I developed about 6 yrs ago. I'm now 78. My McColls came from Mull, Morvern and the isle of Lismore. Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. ~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "James St.Clair" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] medical condiction > Re: high arches(pes cavus condition) - recently consulted a neurologist > who was much interested in the number of people in my family who have the > high arch(technically pes cavus) without any neurological deficit - quite > rare. He finds this condition without deficits more frequently in people > of Scottish ancestry- can trace my inheritance to my great grandfather > Hugh MacFarlane born in 1826 with parents both born on Mull - one Anne > Campbell and one Parlan MacFarlane- am uncertain which of them may have > had this condition. can identify ten people both living and of previous > generations who are descended from Hugh MacFarlane who have this > malformation of feet. > Does anybody else of Isle of Mull ancestry have this physiological > condition? > The phenomenon may be of interest to specialists. > Jim St.Clair, MacFarlane Farm, Mull River, Nova Scotia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Re: high arches(pes cavus condition) - recently consulted a neurologist who was much interested in the number of people in my family who have the high arch(technically pes cavus) without any neurological deficit - quite rare. He finds this condition without deficits more frequently in people of Scottish ancestry- can trace my inheritance to my great grandfather Hugh MacFarlane born in 1826 with parents both born on Mull - one Anne Campbell and one Parlan MacFarlane- am uncertain which of them may have had this condition. can identify ten people both living and of previous generations who are descended from Hugh MacFarlane who have this malformation of feet. Does anybody else of Isle of Mull ancestry have this physiological condition? The phenomenon may be of interest to specialists. Jim St.Clair, MacFarlane Farm, Mull River, Nova Scotia

Doreen After Margaret had natural dau Ann, she had a natural son John born 1881. This John was registered as a Stewart (because his mother was Stewart by marriage), but he preferred to be called John McLean We are now connected via marriage !! This John Stewart/McLean's second marriage was to Belle Campbell LAMONT, and Belle is the dau of my G-gran's (Mary Lamont) first cousin (John Auljdo Lamont and wife Ann McDonald) If you look for them, you will see obituaries on site, and John McLean is mentioned as son-in-law of John Auldjo Lamont There are also pics of my Mary Lamont, John Auldjo Lamont, and John's sister Janet/Jessie All good eh ? Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk

I have a Duncan McNiven named as the father of Annie McNiven born to Margaret Mclean or Stewart. I have been unable to unravel the relationship!Annie married James B Robertson at The Schoolhouse Pennygael in June 1896. Duncan McNiven is listed as shepherd. Margaret appears to have been married to John Stewart in 1863.Annie died in 1945 in Pennygael,parents listed as marriage certificate except "Mc" changed to "Mac" Doreen

Doreen Your Margaret McLean born circa 1834 Kilfinichen to parents Charles/Mary McInnes, died 1907 Aird Kinloch She married John Stewart 1863 Kilfinichen. John died shortly afterwards. Margaret had a relationship with Duncan McNiven which produced natural dau Ann 1873-1945. I show Ann with surname STEWART (MCLEAN-MCNIVEN). This is because her mother was Stewart at time of Ann's birth, but being a natural child with father known, her parents original surnames shown in ( ) Ann married James Beaton Robertson 1896 Pennyghael and had dau Mary who died 1897 as an infant Ignore Mc/Mac As the meerkats say "simple" :) Anything you still don't understand, please ask Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk (all above in detail here) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doreen Hornsby" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:54 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNiven >I have a Duncan McNiven named as the father of Annie McNiven born to >Margaret Mclean or Stewart. I have been unable to unravel the >relationship!Annie married James B Robertson at The Schoolhouse Pennygael >in June 1896. Duncan McNiven is listed as shepherd. > Margaret appears to have been married to John Stewart in 1863.Annie died > in 1945 in Pennygael,parents listed as marriage certificate except "Mc" > changed to "Mac" > > Doreen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jill - 1885 and not 1883 ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Dakin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McNiven > Also found William McNiven's death on 30th January 1885 aged 77; father > Duncan, army sergeant, and mother Marion McLean. he was a tailor in South > High Street, Tobermory, and he died of paralysis of the throat. Informant > was his son, Duncan McNiven. He is described as widower of Harriet > McNiven. > Jill > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Has been some great activity on the list lately. Haven’t seen much input from anyone in the USA, but thought I’d submit the following in hopes that someone can point me in directions to obtain more information. Looking for information on an Alexander McLean, born about 1670 on the Isle of Mull. I do not have the name of his wife, but have some information on his children. According to what I can piece together, Alexander left Scotland about 1714/1715 “on account of political troubles involving a partial dispersion of the McLean’s (MacLean’s)”, and went to Ireland. I believe that most, if not all, of Alexander’s children were born on the Isle of Mull. The children’s names that I have are: Archibald; William; Daniel; Charles; John; Joseph; Robert; Thomas; and Alexander. Haven’t traced all the children yet, but what little I do have is: Archibald, and his brother William, emigrated to the United States from Ireland about 1732/1733 and settled in Pennsylvania. By this time, the spelling of the surname was “McClean” in almost all cases. Archibald was born 1699 on the Isle of Mull, died 1 December 1733 in Horsham Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Family was very prominent in our early American history and I have traced most of his family. He did not marry until he was in Pennsylvania. William was born 1702 on the Isle of Mull, died 13 June 1785 in York County, Pennsylvania. William married in Donegal, Ireland, and several of his children were born in Londonderry, Ireland. They all eventually emigrated to the United States where they too played an important part in our early history, and I have traced most of his family. Hoping to make that connection back to the Isle of Mull. Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks, Linda Bennion (North Carolina)

Could I just add to Jill's note that the army records are at Kew, that these records are accessable on line at findmypast.co.uk. This is not a free site but I am a member at the moment and if anyone wants a soldier looked up then I can do so. Jim Morison

Margaret I have to put my hand up and say 'oops' to Mary 1819. She is listed with Catherine's date on my Excel spreadsheet (years old) , and I can only assume I'd entered Mary instead of Catherine For the Uisken family, I will make their Mary 'circa 1819' As for the parents of mother Mary who died 1871 Uisken : Archibald/Sarah Beaton. You won't find the marriage or children, because the OPR records prior to 1804 for Kilfinichen parish were lost. We will only discover children of that couple from their SR deaths, as in this Mary's case. Anyone for tennis ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families Hi Michael, Where did you find Mary 1819 on IGI, can't see it, nor on 'Familysearch' which I see has only the same baptisms I got at SP. Not disputing the fact there was a Mary (Uisken), as you say she is in the census. But all Mary McArthur's/MacArthur's born around 1819 are to different parents as far as I can see. Had a quick look in opr's for marriage of all McArthur/ Beatons,( for Archibald/Marrion) all spellings, found nothing, nor any children. Nearest I found was ; 10/1/1809- Arthur McArthur workman in Knockvoligan and Marrion Beaton their lawf dau Mary bapt, so she couldn't be the Mary McArthur (Ardalanish) marrying Dugald McArthur in 1807? ( even if Arthur was Archibald ) Margaret (Melrose) On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:02 PM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > hi Margaret - sorry for the confusion. > > I understood what you'd written, but I was expecting to see Ardchiavaig > and > Uisken, and not what is actually there :) > > It does look like a case of siblings, yes. > > The IGI also has Mary 1819, and the Uisken couple did have a Mary > (census). > This Mary married Murdoch Campbell, and is the one who died Ardchiavaig > 1900 > (very confusing, I know) > > One of the mothers died 1871 Uisken, aged 91. When first writing up the > families, I only knew of the Ardchiavaig one, and placed this death record > against that Mary. With the discovery of the Uisken family, I'm not so > sure > I have the entry correct . > > This Mary who died 1871 Uisken has parents Archibald/Marion Beaton. As the > Uisken family had son Archibald, and dau Marion, I'm now in favour of > applying this death to Mary, Uisken (Ardalanish per OPR). Would you agree > ? > > Thank you for your input - all helps > > > Michael > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:38 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > Hello Michael, > > re' heads or tails, I don't know which date goes with which marriage' > > Sorry, did you mean you didn't understand what I had written? > > I just wrote the info exactly how it was written in SP opr's, 2 couples, 2 > marriages, 2 different dates > > 1st Dugald McArthur married Mary McArthur on 21 /1/ 1807 Dugald was in > Tireregan and Mary was in Knocknafanaig. > > 2nd Dugald McArthur married another Mary McArthur on 26 /3/1807 ,that > Dugald was from Knocknafenaig and that Mary was from Ardalanish. > (So perhaps the 1st Mary and the 2nd Dugald were brother and sister??) > > No mention or query that one may have been Banns called, they both say > 'were > married', and are on seperate pages. > > SP opr's do not have a birth/bapt for Mary (Uisken) 10/3/1819 only > Catharine > in Ardfeanaig. > > The only other bapt to Dugald McArthur/ Mary McArthur of either place > (Kilf/Kilv) in SP opr's are; > > Donald McArthur 28/4/1810 > Marrion McArthur 8/6/1810 > Hugh McArthur 14/5/1813 > Archibald McArthur 10/6/1815 ( which I had looked up and was Uisken) > Catharine McArthur 10/3/1819 ( which I also looked up and is Ardfeanaig) > John McArthur 1/7/1821 > Catharine McArthur 22/8/1825 > Mary McArthur 11/9/1825 > > Margaret (Melrose) > > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:35 PM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Margaret/Linda > > > > Couldn't the Ardchiavaig couple just have a Catherine bap 1819 same day > as > > Mary, Uisken ? > > > > There is a big gap between Euphemia 1814 (Census - approx) and Charles > > 1823, > > where she could fit. > > > > Do you know if Mary, Uisken 1819 OPR record exists ? > > > > On the subject of parents, I have found Mary McArthur aged 91 dying at > > Uisken in 1900. She looks to be Mary, Ardchiavaig but i'm not completely > > certain. > > > > Anyone have details of the other Mary ?. > > > > As for the two 1807 marriage dates, is it 'heads or tails' ?. I don't > know > > which date goes with which marriage > > > > Any further info welcomed > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > > > > Hi, > > > > The opr's (Scotlandspeople) show the 'Mary' bapt 10/3/1819 as actually ' > > Catharine' lawful dau of Dugald McArthur crofter in Ardchiavaig and Mary > > McArthur. > > Margaret (Melrose) > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:06 AM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Linda - here is what I have on the two families (Ardchiavaig first) > > > > > > 1. MCARTHUR Ann, b. Abt 1808, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 2. MCARTHUR Donald, c. 29 Apr 1810, Ardchiavaig, Kilfinichen and > > > Kilvickeon > > > 3. MCARTHUR Hugh, c. 14 May 1813, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeond > > > 4. MCARTHUR Euphemia, b. abt 1814, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 5. MCARTHUR Archibald, c. 10 Jun 1815, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 6. MCARTHUR Charles, b. Abt 1823, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 7. MCARTHUR Mary, c. 11 Sep 1825, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > > > > 1. MCARTHUR Marion, c. 8 Jun 1810, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 2. MCARTHUR Mary, c. 10 Mar 1819, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon d. > > > 1900, > > > Ardchiavaig > > > 3. MCARTHUR John, c. 1 Jul 1821, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 4. MCARTHUR Catherine, c. 22 Aug 1825, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > > > > It LOOKS as though Mary bap 1819 married Murdoch Campbell (due to > > > age). > > > However, she 'annoyingly' dies Ardchiavaig (aged 80) > > > > > > * I really don't know where Hugh 1813 and Archibald 1815 belong, and > > > hope > > > another lister can help too.* > > > > > > As for John, the younger bap 1821 is of the Uisken family. > > > > > > I found a bap date for another John as follows, also to a Dugald > > > > > > JOHN MC ARTHUR > > > 08 JUN 1805 Kilfinichen, Argyll > > > Father: DUGALD MC ARTHUR > > > Mother: MARRION MC DONALD > > > > > > I'm wondering if Dugald married twice ? This would be discounted if > > > someone > > > knows of more children post 1805 (or indeed much earlier) > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Linda M. Towne" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:27 AM > > > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > > > > > > > Hello all. > > > There appear to be two families with parents Dugald McArthur and > > > Mary > > > McArthur - one in Ardchiavaig and one in Uisken at roughly the same > > > time. I'm hoping someone on the list can help me sort them out. > > > > > > Familysearch.org has two marriages in 1807 in Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon > > > for Dugald McArthur and Mary McArthur: 29 Jan 1807 and 26 Mar 1807 - > > > I > > > haven't yet looked at the OPR to see if there are clues as to which is > > > which (and of course, the OPR doesn't always show an occupation or > > > residence). > > > > > > Does anyone know which family Hugh baptised 1813 belongs to? > > > > > > How about which Mary married Murdoch Campbell? > > > > > > Did the Uisken family have two sons both named John? 1841 census > > > suggests that but ? > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > 1841 Kilfinichen Ardchiavaig > > > McArthur Dugald 55 Agric Labourer Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 55 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Anne 28 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Euphemia 26 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Charles 17 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 15 Y in Parish > > > > > > 1851 Kilfinichen Ardchiavaig > > > McArthur Dugald 69 Weaver Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 69 w Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Ann 42 Ud servant Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Donald 38 Us weaver Kilfinichen > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > 1841 Kilfinichen Uisken > > > McArthur Dugald 55 Agric Labourer Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 50 Y in Parish > > > McArthur John 32 Carpenter Y in Parish > > > McArthur John 20 Apprentice Y in Parish > > > McArthur Catherine 16 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Donald 4 gs Y in Parish > > > > > > 1851 Kilfinichen Uisken > > > McArthur Dugald 68 crofter 4½ ac Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 65 w Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 32 Ud Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Donald 14 gs Kilfinichen > > > > > > Thanks for any and all help unravelling these two families. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > -- > > > Linda MacCormick Towne > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Michael, Where did you find Mary 1819 on IGI, can't see it, nor on 'Familysearch' which I see has only the same baptisms I got at SP. Not disputing the fact there was a Mary (Uisken), as you say she is in the census. But all Mary McArthur's/MacArthur's born around 1819 are to different parents as far as I can see. Had a quick look in opr's for marriage of all McArthur/ Beatons,( for Archibald/Marrion) all spellings, found nothing, nor any children. Nearest I found was ; 10/1/1809- Arthur McArthur workman in Knockvoligan and Marrion Beaton their lawf dau Mary bapt, so she couldn't be the Mary McArthur (Ardalanish) marrying Dugald McArthur in 1807? ( even if Arthur was Archibald ) Margaret (Melrose) On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 4:02 PM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > hi Margaret - sorry for the confusion. > > I understood what you'd written, but I was expecting to see Ardchiavaig and > Uisken, and not what is actually there :) > > It does look like a case of siblings, yes. > > The IGI also has Mary 1819, and the Uisken couple did have a Mary (census). > This Mary married Murdoch Campbell, and is the one who died Ardchiavaig > 1900 > (very confusing, I know) > > One of the mothers died 1871 Uisken, aged 91. When first writing up the > families, I only knew of the Ardchiavaig one, and placed this death record > against that Mary. With the discovery of the Uisken family, I'm not so sure > I have the entry correct . > > This Mary who died 1871 Uisken has parents Archibald/Marion Beaton. As the > Uisken family had son Archibald, and dau Marion, I'm now in favour of > applying this death to Mary, Uisken (Ardalanish per OPR). Would you agree ? > > Thank you for your input - all helps > > > Michael > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 3:38 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > Hello Michael, > > re' heads or tails, I don't know which date goes with which marriage' > > Sorry, did you mean you didn't understand what I had written? > > I just wrote the info exactly how it was written in SP opr's, 2 couples, 2 > marriages, 2 different dates > > 1st Dugald McArthur married Mary McArthur on 21 /1/ 1807 Dugald was in > Tireregan and Mary was in Knocknafanaig. > > 2nd Dugald McArthur married another Mary McArthur on 26 /3/1807 ,that > Dugald was from Knocknafenaig and that Mary was from Ardalanish. > (So perhaps the 1st Mary and the 2nd Dugald were brother and sister??) > > No mention or query that one may have been Banns called, they both say > 'were > married', and are on seperate pages. > > SP opr's do not have a birth/bapt for Mary (Uisken) 10/3/1819 only > Catharine > in Ardfeanaig. > > The only other bapt to Dugald McArthur/ Mary McArthur of either place > (Kilf/Kilv) in SP opr's are; > > Donald McArthur 28/4/1810 > Marrion McArthur 8/6/1810 > Hugh McArthur 14/5/1813 > Archibald McArthur 10/6/1815 ( which I had looked up and was Uisken) > Catharine McArthur 10/3/1819 ( which I also looked up and is Ardfeanaig) > John McArthur 1/7/1821 > Catharine McArthur 22/8/1825 > Mary McArthur 11/9/1825 > > Margaret (Melrose) > > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:35 PM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Margaret/Linda > > > > Couldn't the Ardchiavaig couple just have a Catherine bap 1819 same day > as > > Mary, Uisken ? > > > > There is a big gap between Euphemia 1814 (Census - approx) and Charles > > 1823, > > where she could fit. > > > > Do you know if Mary, Uisken 1819 OPR record exists ? > > > > On the subject of parents, I have found Mary McArthur aged 91 dying at > > Uisken in 1900. She looks to be Mary, Ardchiavaig but i'm not completely > > certain. > > > > Anyone have details of the other Mary ?. > > > > As for the two 1807 marriage dates, is it 'heads or tails' ?. I don't > know > > which date goes with which marriage > > > > Any further info welcomed > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "margaret murray" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > > > > Hi, > > > > The opr's (Scotlandspeople) show the 'Mary' bapt 10/3/1819 as actually ' > > Catharine' lawful dau of Dugald McArthur crofter in Ardchiavaig and Mary > > McArthur. > > Margaret (Melrose) > > > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:06 AM, MF <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Linda - here is what I have on the two families (Ardchiavaig first) > > > > > > 1. MCARTHUR Ann, b. Abt 1808, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 2. MCARTHUR Donald, c. 29 Apr 1810, Ardchiavaig, Kilfinichen and > > > Kilvickeon > > > 3. MCARTHUR Hugh, c. 14 May 1813, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeond > > > 4. MCARTHUR Euphemia, b. abt 1814, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 5. MCARTHUR Archibald, c. 10 Jun 1815, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 6. MCARTHUR Charles, b. Abt 1823, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 7. MCARTHUR Mary, c. 11 Sep 1825, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > > > > 1. MCARTHUR Marion, c. 8 Jun 1810, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 2. MCARTHUR Mary, c. 10 Mar 1819, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon d. 1900, > > > Ardchiavaig > > > 3. MCARTHUR John, c. 1 Jul 1821, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > 4. MCARTHUR Catherine, c. 22 Aug 1825, Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon > > > > > > It LOOKS as though Mary bap 1819 married Murdoch Campbell (due to age). > > > However, she 'annoyingly' dies Ardchiavaig (aged 80) > > > > > > * I really don't know where Hugh 1813 and Archibald 1815 belong, and > > > hope > > > another lister can help too.* > > > > > > As for John, the younger bap 1821 is of the Uisken family. > > > > > > I found a bap date for another John as follows, also to a Dugald > > > > > > JOHN MC ARTHUR > > > 08 JUN 1805 Kilfinichen, Argyll > > > Father: DUGALD MC ARTHUR > > > Mother: MARRION MC DONALD > > > > > > I'm wondering if Dugald married twice ? This would be discounted if > > > someone > > > knows of more children post 1805 (or indeed much earlier) > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Linda M. Towne" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:27 AM > > > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Two Dugald McArthur/Mary McArthur families > > > > > > > > > Hello all. > > > There appear to be two families with parents Dugald McArthur and Mary > > > McArthur - one in Ardchiavaig and one in Uisken at roughly the same > > > time. I'm hoping someone on the list can help me sort them out. > > > > > > Familysearch.org has two marriages in 1807 in Kilfinichen & Kilvickeon > > > for Dugald McArthur and Mary McArthur: 29 Jan 1807 and 26 Mar 1807 - I > > > haven't yet looked at the OPR to see if there are clues as to which is > > > which (and of course, the OPR doesn't always show an occupation or > > > residence). > > > > > > Does anyone know which family Hugh baptised 1813 belongs to? > > > > > > How about which Mary married Murdoch Campbell? > > > > > > Did the Uisken family have two sons both named John? 1841 census > > > suggests that but ? > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > 1841 Kilfinichen Ardchiavaig > > > McArthur Dugald 55 Agric Labourer Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 55 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Anne 28 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Euphemia 26 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Charles 17 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 15 Y in Parish > > > > > > 1851 Kilfinichen Ardchiavaig > > > McArthur Dugald 69 Weaver Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 69 w Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Ann 42 Ud servant Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Donald 38 Us weaver Kilfinichen > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > 1841 Kilfinichen Uisken > > > McArthur Dugald 55 Agric Labourer Y in Parish > > > McArthur Mary 50 Y in Parish > > > McArthur John 32 Carpenter Y in Parish > > > McArthur John 20 Apprentice Y in Parish > > > McArthur Catherine 16 Y in Parish > > > McArthur Donald 4 gs Y in Parish > > > > > > 1851 Kilfinichen Uisken > > > McArthur Dugald 68 crofter 4½ ac Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 65 w Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Mary 32 Ud Kilfinichen > > > McArthur Donald 14 gs Kilfinichen > > > > > > Thanks for any and all help unravelling these two families. > > > > > > Linda > > > > > > -- > > > Linda MacCormick Towne > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I did too and was amazed how theBaptists spread to / from the Ross of Mull. I have loved visiting Iona with all the Christian life that goes on there. All the best says Sandra / Germany -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von jeanetjean Gesendet: Dienstag, 2. August 2011 15:19 An: [email protected] Betreff: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Baptist history Much appreciated the info on Baptists. I shall study it more thoroughly when I am less busy. I think my ancestor, Neil Campbell must have been one of the very first baptised. Jean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone help with my McNivens please. I am looking for any information about Duncan McNiven born about 1780 and married to Marion (or Sally) McLean He was an army sergeant and was stationed in Tuam, Galway about 1806. The only children I have found are Ann born 1803 Morvern, Stewart or William born about 1806 in Tuam, Galway, then Alexander born 1815 and John born 2 January 1818 both in Morvern. Does anyone know where I can obtain army records for 1800s. Stewart's family lived in Tobermory. Marilyn