Hi Jim, Seems like our MacFarlane - MacCallum lines might be connected in more ways than one. I also have feet with high arches. I used to call them my battle clubs; short, wide and high arches. Made getting shoes a royal pain in the butt. My Dad had long narrow feet so not likely to come from his side. My Pictou Island lines also had some fore-telling abilities as mentioned in your earlier post. Anyone who would like to read about the people and history of Pictou Island( quite a few who have Mull ties) should look up the book" PICTOU ISLAND, NOVA SCOTIA: ITS HISTORY and PEOPLE" by KENNETH MACCALLUM.Total of 595 pages. PS, first version goofed up and didn't go through. Allan D. Gagnon West Haven, CT

Hello Linda, I am not sure if you have these but will send them just in case. Dugald McCORMICK (b) abt 1815 Death 08/02/1889 Iona age 74, Crofter. Widower of Janet McCULLUM. (Father) Neil McCORMICK Crofter, (Mother) Flora McDONALD. (Witness) John McDONALD Son in law. Margaret McCORMICK (b) abt 1800 Died 23/01/1888 age 88 Iona, Widow of John McDONALD, (Father) Dugald McCORMICK Farmer, (Mother) Ann McLEAN. Cause Senile Decay, (Witness) Dugald McDONALD Grandson. Kind Regards Jan Peasnell On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Linda M. Towne <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello. > Looking at the 1841 Census - I would love to identify the people in > the following entry (thank you to MullGenealogy for the transcript). I > strongly suspect they're connected to my MacCormick lines both because > of the forename Dugald and because of their location in Saorphin but I > can't seem to tie them in yet. Anyone have any ideas? > > 1841 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : 3 Page No : 11 House > No : 50 Locality : Saorphin 18412169 > McCormick Sarah 60 Y in Parish > McCormick Dugald 25 Y in Parish > MacDonald Sarah 40 Y in Parish > > Thank you. > > Linda > > -- > Linda MacCormick Towne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda, I believe that this Ann Mcdonald was the daughter of Coll Mcdonald and his wife Janet McCormack. I am not researching this family. For further information you should contact Colin Shaw who subscribes to this list, as this is his family. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Linda M. Towne Sent: Saturday, 6 August 2011 3:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Ann McDonald m. Archibald Shaw Ann, daughter of Coll McDonald Is this the Coll McDonald who married Janet McCormick (1766-1855 daughter of Neil/Ann Livingston) in 1792 and had an Ann c.1803? Or is it a different Coll McDonald? If so, who was his wife? Thank you. Linda On 7/26/2011 1:20 AM, Barbara Hunt wrote: > Neil, > > Archibald Shaw , son of Neil Shaw was born 1795 at "The Leob" near Bunessan, > Mull. He married Anne McDonald on 27th August 1828. Ann McDonald was born > 1805 at Bunessan, Isle of Mull. Ann was the daughter of Coll McDonald. > Their children were: > Sally (Marion)born 1830, Donald born 1832, Neil born 1835, Coll born 1839, > John born 1843, and Janet born 1845. > The family travelled to South Australia on the "Ascendant". > > Barbara > > -----Original Message----- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Michael. I had wondered about that family as a possibility. On 8/9/2011 3:03 AM, MF wrote: > Linda > > Maybe take a look at the family of Dugald McCormick/Marion McIntosh > > They had a son Donald about 1803-1890, who died Saorphin. > > Dugald may be a brother, or possibly 'Dugald for Donald' > > Marion of course, could be Sarah in the 1841 > > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda M. Towne"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:31 AM > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Dugald MacCormick c. 1816 > > >> Hello. >> Looking at the 1841 Census - I would love to identify the people in >> the following entry (thank you to MullGenealogy for the transcript). I >> strongly suspect they're connected to my MacCormick lines both because >> of the forename Dugald and because of their location in Saorphin but I >> can't seem to tie them in yet. Anyone have any ideas? >> >> 1841 Kilfinichen& Kilvicheon District No : 3 Page No : 11 House >> No : 50 Locality : Saorphin 18412169 >> McCormick Sarah 60 Y in Parish >> McCormick Dugald 25 Y in Parish >> MacDonald Sarah 40 Y in Parish >> >> Thank you. >> >> Linda >> >> -- >> Linda MacCormick Towne >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Linda MacCormick Towne

Thank you very much Jan! On 8/9/2011 2:19 AM, Janice Peasnell wrote: > Hello Linda, > > I am not sure if you have these but will send them just in case. > > Dugald McCORMICK (b) abt 1815 Death 08/02/1889 Iona age 74, Crofter. Widower > of Janet McCULLUM. (Father) Neil McCORMICK Crofter, (Mother) Flora > McDONALD. (Witness) John McDONALD Son in law. > > Margaret McCORMICK (b) abt 1800 Died 23/01/1888 age 88 Iona, Widow of John > McDONALD, (Father) Dugald McCORMICK Farmer, (Mother) Ann McLEAN. Cause > Senile Decay, (Witness) Dugald McDONALD Grandson. > > Kind Regards > > Jan Peasnell > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Linda M. Towne<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello. >> Looking at the 1841 Census - I would love to identify the people in >> the following entry (thank you to MullGenealogy for the transcript). I >> strongly suspect they're connected to my MacCormick lines both because >> of the forename Dugald and because of their location in Saorphin but I >> can't seem to tie them in yet. Anyone have any ideas? >> >> 1841 Kilfinichen& Kilvicheon District No : 3 Page No : 11 House >> No : 50 Locality : Saorphin 18412169 >> McCormick Sarah 60 Y in Parish >> McCormick Dugald 25 Y in Parish >> MacDonald Sarah 40 Y in Parish >> >> Thank you. >> >> Linda >> >> -- >> Linda MacCormick Towne >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Linda MacCormick Towne

Linda Maybe take a look at the family of Dugald McCormick/Marion McIntosh They had a son Donald about 1803-1890, who died Saorphin. Dugald may be a brother, or possibly 'Dugald for Donald' Marion of course, could be Sarah in the 1841 Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda M. Towne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 4:31 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Dugald MacCormick c. 1816 > Hello. > Looking at the 1841 Census - I would love to identify the people in > the following entry (thank you to MullGenealogy for the transcript). I > strongly suspect they're connected to my MacCormick lines both because > of the forename Dugald and because of their location in Saorphin but I > can't seem to tie them in yet. Anyone have any ideas? > > 1841 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : 3 Page No : 11 House > No : 50 Locality : Saorphin 18412169 > McCormick Sarah 60 Y in Parish > McCormick Dugald 25 Y in Parish > MacDonald Sarah 40 Y in Parish > > Thank you. > > Linda > > -- > Linda MacCormick Towne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello. Looking at the 1841 Census - I would love to identify the people in the following entry (thank you to MullGenealogy for the transcript). I strongly suspect they're connected to my MacCormick lines both because of the forename Dugald and because of their location in Saorphin but I can't seem to tie them in yet. Anyone have any ideas? 1841 Kilfinichen & Kilvicheon District No : 3 Page No : 11 House No : 50 Locality : Saorphin 18412169 McCormick Sarah 60 Y in Parish McCormick Dugald 25 Y in Parish MacDonald Sarah 40 Y in Parish Thank you. Linda -- Linda MacCormick Towne

Yes, I was in order to keep it on topic for this List. Even life in Britain varied between those who lived in what we now term "Cities" such as Glasgow - life in the Gorbals for instance - and those who lived rurally, on the land or as my Mull family, living off fishing, other than one who was the Harbour Master at Tobermory for a time and a penchant for being the Informant of a death. . Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <[email protected]> > Janet, > > You seem to be referring mostly to people who lived in England/Scotland. My > highland ancestors did not live in cities but endured the whims of nature. > My one set of ggg grandparents, one born 1725, lived to 1824, and his wife, > born 1739 lived to 1830, contrary to your theories, and, also, . another > gtgtgt grandfather, born 1729, fought at Quebec City 1759, died 1820. My gt > gt grandfather Cameron, unfortunately, was killed by a falling tree while he > was completing his log cabin in 1809 in the bush. My father's brother was > born 1883 and died 1981 I will not make it, but many of my ancestors lived > long lives even in the 1700s, 1800s, etc. Heredity is a deciding factor in > longevity, but with, also, the threat of disease being ever something to > consider, but, perhaps, city living is 'dangerous' to the health. My great > grandfather, Lachlan MacLean, born August 8, 1826, Isle of Mull, died August > 19, 1904., buried Finch Cemetery, Ontario, at a rather young age for my > family. > Margaret

You have highlighted that people on average now live longer as opposed to our ancestors who had to live often without the expertise we have now; puerperal fever as with rickets I mentioned before doesn't happen as often now as it did then. I've got certificates where the mother of a child died a few days after the child was born and appears on the same death certificate. There's another statistic that we chose not to consider and that is cancer related deaths which catch people at any age and where ever they live. I have at least 2 or 3 of those in my certificate records; one that had cancer on the face. Women married earlier, on average, I think we would find. No birth control, they married the man who fathered their children, in most cases, or married someone else. My mother and my grandmother had a child aged 23 and had no more. If you work out an average age when a woman might start a family, I think we are seeing here that women go on to have children much older. Having married again when I was very young, my mother she married a Welshman and they returned to Wales when my s/father was made redundant. My mother died of cancer in 1992 aged 74. One would think that living in Wales as opposed to living in the suburbs of London would be a healthier life style but it is a statistic where she went to live that many there die of bowel cancer. It is all in the genes no matter where we live. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "MF" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Earliest born grandparent : Margaret : : You hit on another point of interest : : The following is the current set of statistics for MullFamilies (database of : just over 18,000) : : Note that average lifespan is under 50

If you need to make an application under Freedom of Information one refers to the office or department that holds the records you need. In the instance of the 1911 census, one would have referred either to the local Registry office or to GRO itself. Alternatively, the Information Commissioner's Office would give you all the information you need. You have to be very careful to know what fees you are paying in advance and what information you are going to have access to for those fees, because it is often the way that because there is legislation that prevents members of the public from seeing them - i.e. the 100 yr rule - they don't get all the information that is released to the public, when it is rolled out to the whole of the country. I was very vocal about this on another List at the time and I found that people just wouldnt believe they weren't going to get it all. They have learned since. A Freedom of Information application applies to records that are not already in the public domain. Records of births, marriages and deaths are public records, as you know. The 100 yr rule applies and I think you could refer to FOI for those for which one would not normally have access and see with what result, but it would have to be a legitimate application. I don't see any harm in your sending an e-mail to someone about it, but you would have to pay fees for public records. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "MF" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Free credits from Scotland's People : Janet : : I concur : : With regard to the FOI, you don't say to whom you applied. : : I wonder if anyone has actually cited the FOI in regards to the records at : SP ? : : If so, what was the official response ? : : : Michael

Janet, You seem to be referring mostly to people who lived in England/Scotland. My highland ancestors did not live in cities but endured the whims of nature. My one set of ggg grandparents, one born 1725, lived to 1824, and his wife, born 1739 lived to 1830, contrary to your theories, and, also, . another gtgtgt grandfather, born 1729, fought at Quebec City 1759, died 1820. My gt gt grandfather Cameron, unfortunately, was killed by a falling tree while he was completing his log cabin in 1809 in the bush. My father's brother was born 1883 and died 1981 I will not make it, but many of my ancestors lived long lives even in the 1700s, 1800s, etc. Heredity is a deciding factor in longevity, but with, also, the threat of disease being ever something to consider, but, perhaps, city living is 'dangerous' to the health. My great grandfather, Lachlan MacLean, born August 8, 1826, Isle of Mull, died August 19, 1904., buried Finch Cemetery, Ontario, at a rather young age for my family. Margaret . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Earliest born grandparent > You have highlighted that people on average now live longer as opposed to our ancestors who had to live often without the expertise we have now; puerperal fever as with rickets I mentioned before doesn't happen as often now as it did then. I've got certificates where the mother of a child died a few days after the child was born and appears on the same death certificate. > > There's another statistic that we chose not to consider and that is cancer related deaths which catch people at any age and where ever they live. I have at least 2 or 3 of those in my certificate records; one that had cancer on the face. > Women married earlier, on average, I think we would find. No birth control, they married the man who fathered their children, in most cases, or married someone else. > > My mother and my grandmother had a child aged 23 and had no more. If you work out an average age when a woman might start a family, I think we are seeing here that women go on to have children much older. > > Having married again when I was very young, my mother she married a Welshman and they returned to Wales when my s/father was made redundant. My mother died of cancer in 1992 aged 74. One would think that living in Wales as opposed to living in the suburbs of London would be a healthier life style but it is a statistic where she went to live that many there die of bowel cancer. It is all in the genes no matter where we live. > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MF" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Earliest born grandparent > > > : Margaret > : > : You hit on another point of interest > : > : The following is the current set of statistics for MullFamilies (database of > : just over 18,000) > : > : Note that average lifespan is under 50 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I can't resist this one. My father was born in 1866 and my grandfather was born in 1824 on Is of Luing. Yes I'm 82 Jean whimp -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Caroline Bell Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2011 9:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] re medical condition I was born in 1955 and my grandfathers were born in 1869 and 1873 :) Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "MF" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] re medical condition > Janet > > You just hit on something that has me curious (on a lighter note) > > Would be interesting to know the earliest-born *grandparent* of listers (I > know, a bit of trivia) > > I'm 61 (very soon), and my grandfather was born 1878 > > Let's have your dates please (no need to disclose age ladies) > > > Michael > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, that's right, I was; I am sure I said so. My reply was in response to James's research into high arches - which I have - being attributable to people born in Mull - which I am not - because I feel sure they are to be found more widely. I didn't intend to confuse. It may not be widely know or appreciated that we Brits were almost starving during the wars and if it wasn't for the food parcels from Canada as well as living off the land and saving all our waste for animal feed, I think our bones wouldn't be as good as they are. Rickets was prevalent up to the 20th century but no longer. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:21 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] re medical condition > Janet, > > Evidently, you are referring mostly to statistics within England/Scotland. I am > referring to my own family and to other famlies of these counties Stormont/Glengarry, > wherein, on average, the people [especially of 'Scotch [highland] descent' ]seemed to > be much taller than those I saw within England/Scotland on my visits. I am short by > heredity from some short ancestor [ probably my German], not by nutrition. Heredity is > part of history. My grandmother Cameron, born 1854, a cousin to her husband, was tall > [by heredity]. > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I'll have to add my aunt to the database, Michael :) Bessie Anderson Blake born 24 Jul 1905 died 16th February 2007 - daughter of Helen Anderson McLean (b 12 Aug 1878 d. May 1959) and Charles McBryde Blake (b. 21 May 1869 d. 21 Aug 1934) 101 years 207 days :) Caroline ----- Original Message ----- From: "MF" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Earliest born grandparent > Margaret > > You hit on another point of interest > > The following is the current set of statistics for MullFamilies (database > of > just over 18,000) > > Note that average lifespan is under 50 > > Total Individuals 18,126 > Total Males 9,255 (51.06%) > Total Females 8,862 (48.89%) > Total Unknown Gender 9 (0.05%) > Total Living 203 > Total Families 4,661 > Total Unique Surnames 642 > Total Photos 127 > Total Documents 99 > Total Headstones 49 > Total Histories 4 > Total Recordings 0 > Total Videos 11 > Total Sources 6 > Average Lifespan 49 years, 363 days > Earliest Birth (Robert STEWART) > 2 Mar 1316 > > Longest Lived > Donald MORRISON 101 years 59 days > Christina Isabella Marion CAMPBELL 97 years 125 days > Ann GRAHAM 97 years > Isabella SHEARER 96 years 22 days > Donald Joseph MCGILVRAY 96 years > Catherine CAMPBELL 95 years 318 days > Johnina McCormick MCALPINE 95 years 18 days > Mary MCARTHUR 94 years 350 days > Angus COLQUHOUN 94 years 229 days > Mary Ann MCINNES 94 years 163 days > > Age-related calculations are based on individuals with recorded birth and > death dates. Due to the existence of incomplete date fields(e.g., a death > date listed only as "1945" or "BEF 1860"), these calculations cannot be > 100% > accurate. > > > Michael > www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MARGARET KIPP" <margaretki[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:25 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Earliest born grandparent > > > Hi all: > > I missed the request to list earliest born grandparent but I have noticed > that folk from Mull have a much longer lifespan when compared to the > average, by a significant number. It my case it is my maternal grandmother > who was born in Mull. > > My grandfather on the German side from Perth County, Ontario (John Henry > Eisler) was born on November 4, 1860. My grandfather on the Scottish side > from Perthshire Scotland was born in February 1873. They were both about > 79 > or 80 when they passed away. > > My father (German side) was born in 1905 died in 2004. My mother (Scottish > side) was born in 1911 and still going strong. They met in 1945 during > WWII > when he was a Canadian soldier. I was born in 1949. > > Mid nineties is not unusual among her maternal McPhails. We have > discovered > among the McPhails a tendency to celiac disease (gluten intolerance) > diagnosed quite late in life (80's or 90's). > > Cheers > Margaret > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret You hit on another point of interest The following is the current set of statistics for MullFamilies (database of just over 18,000) Note that average lifespan is under 50 Total Individuals 18,126 Total Males 9,255 (51.06%) Total Females 8,862 (48.89%) Total Unknown Gender 9 (0.05%) Total Living 203 Total Families 4,661 Total Unique Surnames 642 Total Photos 127 Total Documents 99 Total Headstones 49 Total Histories 4 Total Recordings 0 Total Videos 11 Total Sources 6 Average Lifespan 49 years, 363 days Earliest Birth (Robert STEWART) 2 Mar 1316 Longest Lived Donald MORRISON 101 years 59 days Christina Isabella Marion CAMPBELL 97 years 125 days Ann GRAHAM 97 years Isabella SHEARER 96 years 22 days Donald Joseph MCGILVRAY 96 years Catherine CAMPBELL 95 years 318 days Johnina McCormick MCALPINE 95 years 18 days Mary MCARTHUR 94 years 350 days Angus COLQUHOUN 94 years 229 days Mary Ann MCINNES 94 years 163 days Age-related calculations are based on individuals with recorded birth and death dates. Due to the existence of incomplete date fields(e.g., a death date listed only as "1945" or "BEF 1860"), these calculations cannot be 100% accurate. Michael www.mullfamilies.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARGARET KIPP" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:25 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Earliest born grandparent Hi all: I missed the request to list earliest born grandparent but I have noticed that folk from Mull have a much longer lifespan when compared to the average, by a significant number. It my case it is my maternal grandmother who was born in Mull. My grandfather on the German side from Perth County, Ontario (John Henry Eisler) was born on November 4, 1860. My grandfather on the Scottish side from Perthshire Scotland was born in February 1873. They were both about 79 or 80 when they passed away. My father (German side) was born in 1905 died in 2004. My mother (Scottish side) was born in 1911 and still going strong. They met in 1945 during WWII when he was a Canadian soldier. I was born in 1949. Mid nineties is not unusual among her maternal McPhails. We have discovered among the McPhails a tendency to celiac disease (gluten intolerance) diagnosed quite late in life (80's or 90's). Cheers Margaret ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Janet I concur With regard to the FOI, you don't say to whom you applied. I wonder if anyone has actually cited the FOI in regards to the records at SP ? If so, what was the official response ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Free credits from Scotland's People > Michael, I understand how you feel; where I have information however I > feel I must share it. The Freedom of Information Act requires > administration. As a matter of interest, I exercised my rights under FOI > completely free of charge. Jammy eh? It doesnt necessarily follow that > fees are payable although I knew that payment of fees in advance of the > release of the 1911 census under the FOI would mean that all the > information was not received for payment and that fees would be required > when the census itself was released for public viewing. > Seriously, the principle of government is not to make a profit out of the > populace; it may be a question of a loss on one department that is > settled by a profit in another. I dont object paying for something out > of which I derive satisfaction to my curiousity. ;-) > > Janet > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MF" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:00 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Free credits from Scotland's People > > > : Janet > : > : I understand of course > : > : But I believe that they ARE making a profit, and I see the charges as > : another backdoor tax: > : The Freedom of Information Act, unfortunately doesn't mean 'free of > charge': > : Anyway, we digress: > : On a genealogy note, the greater part of the 1911 Census is currently > being > : transcribed at this end (minus Kilininian): > : This is thanks to the unprecedented generosity of one site user, and the > : help of others in transcribing: > : Some parts/pages now currently on site > : > : > : Michael > : www.mullfamilies.co.uk > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It hinges on whether or not we had complete lines of communication with grand parents. When I was a little girl I was told not to ask questions about how old someone was. We live to realise the truth from documentation. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "MF" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] re medical condition :I think we have a winner !! : : : MF

Michael, I understand how you feel; where I have information however I feel I must share it. The Freedom of Information Act requires administration. As a matter of interest, I exercised my rights under FOI completely free of charge. Jammy eh? It doesnt necessarily follow that fees are payable although I knew that payment of fees in advance of the release of the 1911 census under the FOI would mean that all the information was not received for payment and that fees would be required when the census itself was released for public viewing. Seriously, the principle of government is not to make a profit out of the populace; it may be a question of a loss on one department that is settled by a profit in another. I dont object paying for something out of which I derive satisfaction to my curiousity. ;-) Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "MF" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Free credits from Scotland's People : Janet : : I understand of course : : But I believe that they ARE making a profit, and I see the charges as : another backdoor tax: : The Freedom of Information Act, unfortunately doesn't mean 'free of charge': : Anyway, we digress: : On a genealogy note, the greater part of the 1911 Census is currently being : transcribed at this end (minus Kilininian): : This is thanks to the unprecedented generosity of one site user, and the : help of others in transcribing: : Some parts/pages now currently on site : : : Michael : www.mullfamilies.co.uk

I think we have a winner !! MF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Whimp" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] re medical condition >I can't resist this one. My father was born in 1866 and my grandfather was > born in 1824 on Is of Luing. Yes I'm 82 Jean whimp > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Caroline Bell > Sent: Sunday, 7 August 2011 9:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] re medical condition > > I was born in 1955 and my grandfathers were born in 1869 and 1873 :) > > Caroline > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MF" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 12:10 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] re medical condition > > >> Janet >> >> You just hit on something that has me curious (on a lighter note) >> >> Would be interesting to know the earliest-born *grandparent* of listers >> (I >> know, a bit of trivia) >> >> I'm 61 (very soon), and my grandfather was born 1878 >> >> Let's have your dates please (no need to disclose age ladies) >> >> >> Michael >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My grandfather Harold Beaton was born April 1890 in Chicago, IL. He was a lawyer however he enlisted in the US Army Air Corps for WW1& retired as a Colonel in the 1940's - if memory serves properly, my grandfather was commander of more than several bases in the Philippines, California, Hawaii and in the [USA] south somewhere thus affording my dad and his gang of like aged army brats to get into all sorts of trouble. All the best, Heather Beaton