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Many Thanks John..I've spread the word around. Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gibb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 6:10 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Ancestry.com > > > > Start of Ancestry.com FREE database search for the next 15 days. > Different index each day > > Today - Social Security Death Index > http://www.ancestry.com/s49142/t24138/ancestry.com/anniversary?o_iid=49142&o > _lid=49142&o_sch=Web+Property > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In 1828 the ship St Lawrence carried 208 passengers from Greenock/Tobermory to Ship Harbour, Cape Breton , Canada. The passenger list published in J.L. MacDougall's (1922) book "History of Inverness County, Nova Scotia" states that all the passengers were from Rum. However it is known that at least one family was from Coll, and it has been suggested that some other families were from Muck. I am working on a searchable Excel spreadsheet of the passenger list for the Emigrant Ships page of the Coll Genealogy website, and would appreciate any information about the origin of passengers on this ship. ___________________________________________ Keith Dash Sydney, Australua Isle of Tiree Genealogy: www.tireegenealogy.com Isle of Coll Genealogy: www.collgenealogy.com

Good afternoon I am hope I might be on the right track I am researching a Campbell family from Lochend in Argyll, Scotland who came to Australia in 1821 on board the vessel "Lusitania". Also on board was one Archibald Campbell and Helen Sudart [Stoddart]. Archibald evenyually purchased land in Australia and named his property "Lorn Bank" I believe these two Campbell families might be related to Governor Lachlan Macquarie whom I am aware was from the Isle of Mull where on his death he was buried. I also have an extensive archive on the Campbell's yet the only thing I can locate on Archibald Campbells links prior to Australia is that his death registraion gives his father as Gavin Campbell. If anyone feels they may have a connections I would appreciate hearing from you as I have reached a brick wall on Archibald. Yours Sincerely Hazel Magann Blacktown

Hi Chris, Can I suggest to you and others too that opening Google UK might help you find what you are looking for. I typed in Brig Pilgrim: from Tobermory 14 June to Quebec 23 August 1822 and got the results revealed by this tinyurl - I leave you to make your searches and hope this suggestion helps. I am sure I have posted the Ships List url here before - http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/1822c.htm If any one wants to keep a shortcut to Google UK on their desktop here it is: http://www.google.co.uk/ I really think it makes a difference. Good luck Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris MacPhail" <[email protected]> > I'm looking for information on passenger lists for immigrant ships: > > . Ship Duchess of Richmond: from Oban to Quebec (via Greenock?) > arriving 4 August 1821 under Captain Cook, with 266 settlers > > . Brig Pilgrim: from Tobermory 14 June to Quebec 23 August 1822 > under Captain Smith with 62 settlers > > Chris MacPhail > > Ottawa > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hello Tricia, Darn it! I didn't mean to send it Mull group; I admit to filching your address from a Mull group mail because I didn't think I had it in my address book. Apologies to everyone. I am related to DUNBAR by Mary b 1783 Arbuthnott who married Robert BISSET and thereafter by several who married into SHERET which are not from Argyll but there is an unconnected link between them in Caithness also with the GRANT about whom we have spoken before as well as SUTHERLAND some of whom I found recently in Australia. Once again, I apologise for this intrusion but if anyone recognises any of these names we could share off list. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tricia Barnett" <[email protected]> > Hi Janet. > I know this is not MULL but as we have found some of these families from > North of Scotland do have Mull Links. > > Not mine so far but James Gunn m 5 Jan 1826 Elizabeth Dunbar. > I believe to be son b c 1803 Latheron parish to John Gunn > Elizabeth was daughter of William Dunbar and Elizabeth Miller > 1st Born son was John 1827 - then George, Elizabeth, Amelia, William, Ann, > David, Robert and another Elizabeth. > In census 1841 51 and 61. There should be deaths for both. > > So many GUNN and the Latheron births then did not show mother. > I have in my tree but indirectly Samuel Dunbar who I believe is sister to > Elizbeth. He first married Eliz Gunn 1840 and she died without children > before 1851. > > Where do you link to the GUNN/DUNBAR > Tricia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

I'm looking for information on passenger lists for immigrant ships: . Ship Duchess of Richmond: from Oban to Quebec (via Greenock?) arriving 4 August 1821 under Captain Cook, with 266 settlers . Brig Pilgrim: from Tobermory 14 June to Quebec 23 August 1822 under Captain Smith with 62 settlers Chris MacPhail Ottawa

Hi Janet. I know this is not MULL but as we have found some of these families from North of Scotland do have Mull Links. Not mine so far but James Gunn m 5 Jan 1826 Elizabeth Dunbar. I believe to be son b c 1803 Latheron parish to John Gunn Elizabeth was daughter of William Dunbar and Elizabeth Miller 1st Born son was John 1827 - then George, Elizabeth, Amelia, William, Ann, David, Robert and another Elizabeth. In census 1841 51 and 61. There should be deaths for both. So many GUNN and the Latheron births then did not show mother. I have in my tree but indirectly Samuel Dunbar who I believe is sister to Elizbeth. He first married Eliz Gunn 1840 and she died without children before 1851. Where do you link to the GUNN/DUNBAR Tricia

Hello Tricia, Not sure if you have associated my address with that of the wightway handle I used to have and that I think we said one day we might find a connection. I dont think I have found anything directly but I am just wondering if you can throw any light on James GUNN who married Elizabeth DUNBAR on 23 February 1834 at Latheron, Caithness Hope this finds you well. Regards Janet

Hi all, Some of you will be aware that there is an ongoing archaeological excavation at Kildavie, near Langamull, north Mull. Recently this site has been accepted as an 'Adopt a monument' site. Adopt-a-Monument is a nation-wide Community Archaeology project that provides volunteer groups with all the practical advice and training they need to play a leading role in caring for their local archaeology. The scheme encourages groups to get involved in hands-on activities to improve the condition, accessibility and interpretation of their chosen site. The scheme is supported by Historic Scotland. Work on the site is led by Dr Bill Patterson who lives close to the site. In addition to local volunteers, professionals visit the site to advise on the excavations. Bill is keen to assemble as much information about Kildavie and its former inhabitants as possible. To this end he would welcome any information that you might have on Kildavie or know of any resources (universities, libraries, private collections) that might have information on the site and its inhabitants. Bill's email address is [email protected] but I'm sure listers would be interested in any information that you might have so please copy replies to [email protected] Thanks in advance. Regards, Ian

Hi Valeria, Sorry about the extra email, I have two email addresses and my email program goes crazy occasionly by using both addresses for one email, don't know why it happens. I haven't yet been able to sort out the relationship problem with FTM. I have the first wife set as "preferred" and I have the right children with the right mother in the right order in both cases. But when I do a calculation it still shows the children of both marriages having the same relationship to me. That is "2nd great grand aunt". The same problem occurs with my father's step sister, FTM calculates her as my "aunt" instead of my "half or step Aunt" I do thank you for your suggestions, but I'm now thinking that it must be a weakness in the program. Regards, Barry Howard, Vic. Aust. On 12/09/2011 8:35 AM, Valeria Greenwood wrote: > Hi Barry, > For some reason this message popped up again in my inbox as a new message!?! > Not sure why. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you managed to get FTM to give > you the correct info, i.e. half aunt, etc.? > > In my previous message, I suggested you check to ensure you had the children > of the 2nd marriage listed with the 2nd wife and not with the first one. > Did you check that out? I know that has happened with me before and as soon > as I corrected that, then it gave me the correct info. I know other listers > sent you messages too, but I would just check this out first before going to > any great deal of trouble. If this is not the case, then you could check > out one of the other suggestions. > > Valeria Greenwood > Nova Scotia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BRH"<[email protected]> > To:<[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 7:50 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Relationship Query. > > >> Hello Valeria, >> >> Thanks for the reply to my query. I had done a relationship calculation >> with Family Tree Maker and it said that the girls of this later marriage >> were my 2nd great grand Aunts, but I felt this was not quite right. So >> should they be my HALF 2nd great grand aunts, my 2nd HALF great grand >> aunts or my 2nd great grand HALF aunts? It's kinda confusing. >> >> Barry Howard, >> Vic. Australia. >> >> >> >> On 8/09/2011 11:23 PM, Valeria Greenwood wrote: >>> Hello Barry, >>> Yes, you are correct--they would be "half"--same father, different >>> mother. >>> I have many half cousins from my grandfather's first marriage. >>> >>> You say you are descended from the 2nd child by his first marriage. >>> Whatever relationship you have determined for the sibling of your >>> ancestor, >>> then the children by the 2nd marriage would be the same--only just add >>> "half" to the relationship, i.e. half third cousin, etc. Clear as mud?? >>> >>> Valeria Greenwood >>> Nova Scotia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Barry, For some reason this message popped up again in my inbox as a new message!?! Not sure why. Anyway, I'm just wondering if you managed to get FTM to give you the correct info, i.e. half aunt, etc.? In my previous message, I suggested you check to ensure you had the children of the 2nd marriage listed with the 2nd wife and not with the first one. Did you check that out? I know that has happened with me before and as soon as I corrected that, then it gave me the correct info. I know other listers sent you messages too, but I would just check this out first before going to any great deal of trouble. If this is not the case, then you could check out one of the other suggestions. Valeria Greenwood Nova Scotia ----- Original Message ----- From: "BRH" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Relationship Query. > Hello Valeria, > > Thanks for the reply to my query. I had done a relationship calculation > with Family Tree Maker and it said that the girls of this later marriage > were my 2nd great grand Aunts, but I felt this was not quite right. So > should they be my HALF 2nd great grand aunts, my 2nd HALF great grand > aunts or my 2nd great grand HALF aunts? It's kinda confusing. > > Barry Howard, > Vic. Australia. > > > > On 8/09/2011 11:23 PM, Valeria Greenwood wrote: >> Hello Barry, >> Yes, you are correct--they would be "half"--same father, different >> mother. >> I have many half cousins from my grandfather's first marriage. >> >> You say you are descended from the 2nd child by his first marriage. >> Whatever relationship you have determined for the sibling of your >> ancestor, >> then the children by the 2nd marriage would be the same--only just add >> "half" to the relationship, i.e. half third cousin, etc. Clear as mud?? >> >> Valeria Greenwood >> Nova Scotia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thankyou for that information Janet. Regards, Barry Howard, Victoria, Australia. On 9/09/2011 9:06 PM, Janet wrote: > It looks as though you might need to input the girls against a different mother's name in > your GEDCOM software? I mention this because I find the software doesn't help in certain > relationship situations. Where a child has been adopted at birth for instance, one has > to enter it twice to have it reflected to make any sense in an extracted Report. I have > inserted my own name twice because it was changed by Deed Poll because my mother > remarried. This is where we have to be more clever than the software we use. I guess > someone will say their software knows how to cope with these situations and if that is so, > it has been worth my while making mention of it. > > Janet

Hello Valeria, Thanks for the reply to my query. I had done a relationship calculation with Family Tree Maker and it said that the girls of this later marriage were my 2nd great grand Aunts, but I felt this was not quite right. So should they be my HALF 2nd great grand aunts, my 2nd HALF great grand aunts or my 2nd great grand HALF aunts? It's kinda confusing. Barry Howard, Vic. Australia. On 8/09/2011 11:23 PM, Valeria Greenwood wrote: > Hello Barry, > Yes, you are correct--they would be "half"--same father, different mother. > I have many half cousins from my grandfather's first marriage. > > You say you are descended from the 2nd child by his first marriage. > Whatever relationship you have determined for the sibling of your ancestor, > then the children by the 2nd marriage would be the same--only just add > "half" to the relationship, i.e. half third cousin, etc. Clear as mud?? > > Valeria Greenwood > Nova Scotia

If you try this it will lead you to John's links. http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean&McKinnon-o/index.htm That gives the Hector McLEAN & Angus McKINNON main page. Jack ======================================= From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean McKinnon >Tried to bring it up and it says Oops link must be broken ======================================== From: "John Gibb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean McKinnon >> May be of interest to some on the list. >> http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean >> <http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean&McKinnon-o/p467.htm> >> &McKinnon-o/p467.htm >> http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean >> <http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean&McKinnon-o/p305.htm> >> &McKinnon-o/p305.htm

Hello Valeria, Thanks for the reply to my query. I had done a relationship calculation with Family Tree Maker and it said that the girls of this later marriage were my 2nd great grand Aunts, but I felt this was not quite right. So should they be my HALF 2nd great grand aunts, my 2nd HALF great grand aunts or my 2nd great grand HALF aunts? It's kinda confusing. Barry Howard, Vic. Australia. On 8/09/2011 11:23 PM, Valeria Greenwood wrote: > Hello Barry, > Yes, you are correct--they would be "half"--same father, different mother. > I have many half cousins from my grandfather's first marriage. > > You say you are descended from the 2nd child by his first marriage. > Whatever relationship you have determined for the sibling of your ancestor, > then the children by the 2nd marriage would be the same--only just add > "half" to the relationship, i.e. half third cousin, etc. Clear as mud?? > > Valeria Greenwood > Nova Scotia

May be of interest to some on the list. http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean <http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean&McKinnon-o/p467.htm> &McKinnon-o/p467.htm http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean <http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean&McKinnon-o/p305.htm> &McKinnon-o/p305.htm

Tried to bring it up and it says Oops link must be broken ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gibb" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:42 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McLean McKinnon > May be of interest to some on the list. > > > > > > > > http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean > <http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean&McKinnon-o/p467.htm> > &McKinnon-o/p467.htm > > > > http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean > <http://genealogy.kolthammer.org/McLean&McKinnon-o/p305.htm> > &McKinnon-o/p305.htm > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It looks as though you might need to input the girls against a different mother's name in your GEDCOM software? I mention this because I find the software doesn't help in certain relationship situations. Where a child has been adopted at birth for instance, one has to enter it twice to have it reflected to make any sense in an extracted Report. I have inserted my own name twice because it was changed by Deed Poll because my mother remarried. This is where we have to be more clever than the software we use. I guess someone will say their software knows how to cope with these situations and if that is so, it has been worth my while making mention of it. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "BRH" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Relationship Query. > Hello Valeria, > > Thanks for the reply to my query. I had done a relationship calculation > with Family Tree Maker and it said that the girls of this later marriage > were my 2nd great grand Aunts, but I felt this was not quite right. So > should they be my HALF 2nd great grand aunts, my 2nd HALF great grand > aunts or my 2nd great grand HALF aunts? It's kinda confusing. > > Barry Howard, > Vic. Australia. > > > > On 8/09/2011 11:23 PM, Valeria Greenwood wrote: >> Hello Barry, >> Yes, you are correct--they would be "half"--same father, different mother. >> I have many half cousins from my grandfather's first marriage. >> >> You say you are descended from the 2nd child by his first marriage. >> Whatever relationship you have determined for the sibling of your ancestor, >> then the children by the 2nd marriage would be the same--only just add >> "half" to the relationship, i.e. half third cousin, etc. Clear as mud?? >> >> Valeria Greenwood >> Nova Scotia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Tricia. Unfortunately the only other information I have on Effy McPhail is that she had siblings: Susanna (12 Aug 1770); Donald (10 Jul 1774) and Ann (25 May 1776). Good luck with your research! Linda www.ancestralplaces.co.uk On 9/8/2011 2:38 PM, Tricia Barnett wrote: > Linda > I like your site. > re > Effy McPhail was born in 1768, daughter of Donald McPhail and Katherine > Campbell. Effy McPhail was baptized on 17 July 1768. > Have you anymore info on this branch of McPhail. > > This is about the date of my Effie McPhail who married Neil McDougall(Mclullich) > in Torosay. > > They were in GARMONY in 1841. I visited there when I was over in July. > > Tricia >