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    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull?
    2. Ian Phillips
    3. Hi Lyn, The Kelton reference to me would point rather more to the Mull of Galloway rather than the Mull of Kintyre. The name "Mull" derives from Scottish Gaelic<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Gaelic_language> : *Maol*, meaning a headland, signifying a jutting crag, promontory, brow of a hill or rock, and also baldness or bareness. The related derived noun refers to a land formation bare of trees, such as a rounded hill, summit, mountain or promontory. Good hunting. Ian On 23 October 2011 13:50, L Behnke <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thank you for checking this. From his death record I have John born April > 1848 with mother Anne Malcom. However, the info came from the same dau that > gave Mull as pob and I have no other documentation to support it. I'll have > to definately keep searching and see if I can reconcile the different data. > The below would fit better with the census data from Kelton I found after > this list steered me toward Dumfries yesterday. > > Alex suggested Mull of Galloway in an earlier email - what does "Mull" > mean? As there are multiple uses of the word, it must refer to some > geological feature? > > Thank you all again! > > > > > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:17:07 +0100 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull? > > > > Hi Lyn, > > > > I have checked Ancestory.com and cannot find a census record for John. > > > > Have found this at familysearch.org > > > > parents:Robert Carruthers,​ Anne Handley > > name:John Carruthersgender:Malebaptism/christening date:04 Feb > > 1849baptism/christening > > place:, KELTON, KIRKCUDBRIGHT, SCOTLANDfather's name:Robert > Carruthersmother's > > name:Anne Handleyindexing project (batch) number:C11869-4system origin: > > Scotland-VRsource film number:1067975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only John with parents Robert and Anne with baptism 1848-1849 > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > On 23 October 2011 10:55, ALEX FLETCHER <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Dear Lyn, I would imagine that she would be meaning the Mull of > Galloway. > > > We often get confused with the Mull of Kintyre so I don't see why it > can't > > > be the same with it. Alex. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: L Behnke <[email protected]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2011, 1:49 > > > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull? > > > > > > > > > Do the Scottish census of 1861 and 1871 include Isle of Mull? > > > > > > I'm searching for John Carruthers born abt April 1848 supposed to be in > > > Isle of Mull. It appears his father was Robert and his mother Annie > > > Malcom. I've been unable to locate any of these three persons in either > > > census so far. As I'm just new to Scotish research, I wondered if Mull > was > > > actually included in these census or if they might have had their own. > > > Robert emigrated to Canada in 1878 so should be in the earlier census. > > > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > > > > Lyn > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/23/2011 09:18:51
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull?
    2. Janice Peasnell
    3. Hello Lyn, Like Linda, I feel these names aren't Isle of Mull name. They aren't from the Mull of Kintyre are they? I know these place names become confusing several generations down the track. Do you have his birth records as you know the parents names. The Scotlandspeople site may be your best bet if you haven't tried there already. All the Mull census records from 1841 can be found on the Mull Genealogy site http://www.mullgenealogy.co.uk/. There is a William Malcolm living in the Torosay area in the 1881 and 1891 census, he was an incomer from Glasgow. There is also a Robert Carruthers family living in Tobermory from 1881 to 1901, Interestingly enough, both these families although not appearing to be related, have the unusual christian name of 'Mailtland'. So if you have a Maitland in the family you might be in luck. Good hunting, Jan Peasnell On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:49 AM, L Behnke <[email protected]> wrote: > > Do the Scottish census of 1861 and 1871 include Isle of Mull? > > I'm searching for John Carruthers born abt April 1848 supposed to be in > Isle of Mull. It appears his father was Robert and his mother Annie Malcom. > I've been unable to locate any of these three persons in either census so > far. As I'm just new to Scotish research, I wondered if Mull was actually > included in these census or if they might have had their own. Robert > emigrated to Canada in 1878 so should be in the earlier census. > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > Lyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/23/2011 06:46:34
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull?
    2. Ian Phillips
    3. Hi Lyn, I have checked Ancestory.com and cannot find a census record for John. Have found this at familysearch.org parents:Robert Carruthers,​ Anne Handley name:John Carruthersgender:Malebaptism/christening date:04 Feb 1849baptism/christening place:, KELTON, KIRKCUDBRIGHT, SCOTLANDfather's name:Robert Carruthersmother's name:Anne Handleyindexing project (batch) number:C11869-4system origin: Scotland-VRsource film number:1067975 Only John with parents Robert and Anne with baptism 1848-1849 Hope this helps. Ian On 23 October 2011 10:55, ALEX FLETCHER <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Lyn, I would imagine that she would be meaning the Mull of Galloway. > We often get confused with the Mull of Kintyre so I don't see why it can't > be the same with it. Alex. > > > > ________________________________ > From: L Behnke <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2011, 1:49 > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull? > > > Do the Scottish census of 1861 and 1871 include Isle of Mull? > > I'm searching for John Carruthers born abt April 1848 supposed to be in > Isle of Mull. It appears his father was Robert and his mother Annie > Malcom. I've been unable to locate any of these three persons in either > census so far. As I'm just new to Scotish research, I wondered if Mull was > actually included in these census or if they might have had their own. > Robert emigrated to Canada in 1878 so should be in the earlier census. > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > Lyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/23/2011 05:17:07
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull?
    2. ALEX FLETCHER
    3. Dear Lyn, I would imagine that she would be meaning the Mull of Galloway. We often get confused with the Mull of Kintyre so I don't see why it can't be the same with it. Alex. ________________________________ From: L Behnke <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2011, 1:49 Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull? Do the Scottish census of 1861 and 1871 include Isle of Mull?  I'm searching for John Carruthers born abt April 1848 supposed to be in Isle of Mull.  It appears his father was Robert and his mother Annie Malcom.  I've been unable to locate any of these three persons in either census so far.  As I'm just new to Scotish research, I wondered if Mull was actually included in these census or if they might have had their own.  Robert emigrated to Canada in 1878 so should be in the earlier census. Thanks for any suggestions. Lyn                         ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/23/2011 04:55:53
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull?
    2. L Behnke
    3. Thank you for checking this. From his death record I have John born April 1848 with mother Anne Malcom. However, the info came from the same dau that gave Mull as pob and I have no other documentation to support it. I'll have to definately keep searching and see if I can reconcile the different data. The below would fit better with the census data from Kelton I found after this list steered me toward Dumfries yesterday. Alex suggested Mull of Galloway in an earlier email - what does "Mull" mean? As there are multiple uses of the word, it must refer to some geological feature? Thank you all again! > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 11:17:07 +0100 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull? > > Hi Lyn, > > I have checked Ancestory.com and cannot find a census record for John. > > Have found this at familysearch.org > > parents:Robert Carruthers,​ Anne Handley > name:John Carruthersgender:Malebaptism/christening date:04 Feb > 1849baptism/christening > place:, KELTON, KIRKCUDBRIGHT, SCOTLANDfather's name:Robert Carruthersmother's > name:Anne Handleyindexing project (batch) number:C11869-4system origin: > Scotland-VRsource film number:1067975 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only John with parents Robert and Anne with baptism 1848-1849 > > Hope this helps. > > Ian > > > > On 23 October 2011 10:55, ALEX FLETCHER <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Lyn, I would imagine that she would be meaning the Mull of Galloway. > > We often get confused with the Mull of Kintyre so I don't see why it can't > > be the same with it. Alex. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: L Behnke <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2011, 1:49 > > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull? > > > > > > Do the Scottish census of 1861 and 1871 include Isle of Mull? > > > > I'm searching for John Carruthers born abt April 1848 supposed to be in > > Isle of Mull. It appears his father was Robert and his mother Annie > > Malcom. I've been unable to locate any of these three persons in either > > census so far. As I'm just new to Scotish research, I wondered if Mull was > > actually included in these census or if they might have had their own. > > Robert emigrated to Canada in 1878 so should be in the earlier census. > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > > Lyn > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/23/2011 02:50:03
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull?
    2. L Behnke
    3. Janice and Linda, Thank you both for the quick responses and suggestions! John Carruthers death record in 1929 from Parry Sound, Ontario, Canada lists his father and mothers names. It also lists pob as Isle of Mull. The informant was a daughter. But with both you suggesting that the family may not actually be from Mull I took another look at what I have so far and saw a daughter is listed on Canada 1891 census as born in Mid Kelton, Cothouse. Which according to google is in Dumfires & Galloway. Took another look at 1871 Scotland census (with a broader mind!) and found a record for John and Elizabeth Carruthers in Kelton, Kirkcudbrightshire which is a very good possible match. (I know he married Elizabeth McNaught and the 2 kids listed match what I have from other sources also). This 1871 record says John was born Kelton also. If this is the right family, I'll have to figure out why his daughter gave Mull as pob on the death record. For now, it looks like I may be on the wrong mail list. But even by likely ruling out some things its been a big help! It would be cool to have Mull ancestors though - so I'll be double checking. Thanks again. > Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 12:46:34 +1100 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull? > > Hello Lyn, > > Like Linda, I feel these names aren't Isle of Mull name. They aren't from > the Mull of Kintyre are they? I know these place names become confusing > several generations down the track. Do you have his birth records as you > know the parents names. The Scotlandspeople site may be your best bet if > you haven't tried there already. All the Mull census records from 1841 can > be found on the Mull Genealogy site http://www.mullgenealogy.co.uk/. There > is a William Malcolm living in the Torosay area in the 1881 and 1891 census, > he was an incomer from Glasgow. There is also a Robert Carruthers family > living in Tobermory from 1881 to 1901, Interestingly enough, both these > families although not appearing to be related, have the unusual christian > name of 'Mailtland'. So if you have a Maitland in the family you might be > in luck. > > Good hunting, > > Jan Peasnell > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:49 AM, L Behnke <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Do the Scottish census of 1861 and 1871 include Isle of Mull? > > > > I'm searching for John Carruthers born abt April 1848 supposed to be in > > Isle of Mull. It appears his father was Robert and his mother Annie Malcom. > > I've been unable to locate any of these three persons in either census so > > far. As I'm just new to Scotish research, I wondered if Mull was actually > > included in these census or if they might have had their own. Robert > > emigrated to Canada in 1878 so should be in the earlier census. > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > > Lyn > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/22/2011 04:31:03
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull?
    2. Linda M. Towne
    3. Hello. The Isle of Mull is indeed included on the Scottish Censuses. Carruthers and Malcolm don't strike me as Mull surnames however. Carruthers in particular seems more likely to have been from SW Scotland -perhaps Dumfries? Good luck with your research. Linda www.ancestralplaces.co.uk On 10/22/2011 8:49 PM, L Behnke wrote: > Do the Scottish census of 1861 and 1871 include Isle of Mull? > > I'm searching for John Carruthers born abt April 1848 supposed to be in Isle of Mull. It appears his father was Robert and his mother Annie Malcom. I've been unable to locate any of these three persons in either census so far. As I'm just new to Scotish research, I wondered if Mull was actually included in these census or if they might have had their own. Robert emigrated to Canada in 1878 so should be in the earlier census. > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > Lyn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Linda MacCormick Towne

    10/22/2011 03:15:24
    1. [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Scotland census include Mull?
    2. L Behnke
    3. Do the Scottish census of 1861 and 1871 include Isle of Mull? I'm searching for John Carruthers born abt April 1848 supposed to be in Isle of Mull. It appears his father was Robert and his mother Annie Malcom. I've been unable to locate any of these three persons in either census so far. As I'm just new to Scotish research, I wondered if Mull was actually included in these census or if they might have had their own. Robert emigrated to Canada in 1878 so should be in the earlier census. Thanks for any suggestions. Lyn

    10/22/2011 02:49:09
    1. [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Emigrant Ships to Canada
    2. Keith Dash
    3. Elizabeth, On the An Iodhlann website (www.aniodhlann.org.uk/) there is a passenger list for the "Conrad"departing Greenock on 18 June 1850 for Montreal, Canada, with 167 passengers from Tiree and 74 from Mull. Is this the same voyage that you have? There was a later voyage of the same ship in July 1851 with 389 passengers from Tiree. Regards, Keith. >Message: 1 >Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:15:37 +0000 >From: elizabeth mcdonald <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Ship "St Lawrence" Tobermory to Cape > Breton, Canada, 1828 >To: mull website <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > >Dear Keith, >The same is true of the 'Conrad' in 1849. Not all are from Tiree as >some are from Mull. The exact numbers of the latter I can give to >you next time if you wish - or have you already differentiated? >Elizabeth McDonald, >Sarnia, Ontario.

    10/22/2011 09:19:22
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Help with census
    2. Jean Whimp
    3. Frances, Yours is my first mail from Mull list for a while - just been slow i think. Jean -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frances Caple Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2011 2:57 AM To: [email protected]; John Gibb Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Help with census hello John,

    10/22/2011 02:46:31
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Help with census
    2. Frances Caple
    3. thanks everyone, within minuets of my sending my own message it arrived in my inbox from the list so I realised then things had just been quiet and of course I should have remembered messages with attachments don't come through, wishing you all a good weekend, here on Lewis it is very, very windy, winds up to 75 mph are coming our way and I expect Mull will be hit by them too so those of you in calmer climes think of us, Frances --- On Fri, 21/10/11, Jean Whimp <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jean Whimp <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Help with census To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 21 October, 2011, 23:16 Frances, Yours is my first mail from Mull list for a while - just been slow i think. Jean

    10/22/2011 01:27:41
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Help with census
    2. Janet
    3. Might it have been because it appears to have had an attachment and I think Rootsweb doesn't deliver them. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Morison" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Help with census > Hi Frances/ John, > I did not get John's message either. > Jim Morison > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frances Caple" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; "John Gibb" <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:27 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Help with census > > >> hello John, >> >> >> >> Sarah and Marion are apparently the same name so perhaps Sallie is a pet >> name for Sarah which is also Marion, >> >> >> >> the census place looks like Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon which covered the >> area of the Ross of Mull, sorry I can't work out the exact village from >> the handwriting, >> >> >> >> I see you also sent the message to the mull list but it hasn't come >> through for me, I haven't had any list mail for a while so I wonder if >> there is something wrong, no it is not going in my spam folder which I >> check regularly, >> >> >> >> hope all is well with you, Frances >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

    10/21/2011 04:37:54
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Help with census
    2. James Morison
    3. Hi Frances/ John, I did not get John's message either. Jim Morison ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Caple" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "John Gibb" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Help with census > hello John, > > > > Sarah and Marion are apparently the same name so perhaps Sallie is a pet > name for Sarah which is also Marion, > > > > the census place looks like Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon which covered the > area of the Ross of Mull, sorry I can't work out the exact village from > the handwriting, > > > > I see you also sent the message to the mull list but it hasn't come > through for me, I haven't had any list mail for a while so I wonder if > there is something wrong, no it is not going in my spam folder which I > check regularly, > > > > hope all is well with you, Frances >

    10/21/2011 04:19:05
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Help with census
    2. Frances Caple
    3. hello John, Sarah and Marion are apparently the same name so perhaps Sallie is a pet name for Sarah which is also Marion, the census place looks like Kilfinichen and Kilvickeon which covered the area of the Ross of Mull, sorry I can't work out the exact village from the handwriting, I see you also sent the message to the mull list but it hasn't come through for me, I haven't had any list mail for a while so I wonder if there is something wrong, no it is not going in my spam folder which I check regularly, hope all is well with you, Frances --- On Thu, 20/10/11, John Gibb <[email protected]> wrote: From: John Gibb <[email protected]> Subject: Help with census To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Thursday, 20 October, 2011, 13:50 Can anyone tell me the place of census and birth places on the attached? The wife’s name is given as Sallie, I’m sure it’s the correct family but her name is Marion. Are the names Sallie & Marion interchangeable?

    10/21/2011 11:27:18
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Ship "St Lawrence" Tobermory to Cape Breton, Canada, 1828
    2. elizabeth mcdonald
    3. Dear Keith, The same is true of the 'Conrad' in 1849. Not all are from Tiree as some are from Mull. The exact numbers of the latter I can give to you next time if you wish - or have you already differentiated? Elizabeth McDonald, Sarnia, Ontario. > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:37:01 +1100 > To: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > CC: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Ship "St Lawrence" Tobermory to Cape Breton, Canada, 1828 > > In 1826 Maclean of Coll began to depopulate the Isle of Rum so he > could lease the whole island to a single tenant. In July of that > year about 300 of the island's residents, around three-quarters of > the total population, were sent in two ships, the Highland Lad and > the Dove of Harmony, to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. The remaining Rum > islanders were sent to Cape Breton in 1828 on the St Lawrence, which > sailed from Tobermory on 12 July 1828. > > In the passenger list of the St Lawrence in J.L. MacDougall's (1922) > book History of Inverness County, Nova Scotia all 208 passengers on > the ship are shown as being from Rum. However it is known that at > least 7 persons (in one family) were from Coll, and it has been said > that some150 were from Muck (see > http://www.isleofrum.com/isleofrum-histor.html). > > Because it relates to emigrants from Coll, the passenger list of the > St Lawrence, extracted from J.L.MacDougall's book and entered into a > searchable Excel spreadsheet, has been added to the Emigrant Ships > page of the Isle of Coll Genealogy website. There is room in the > spreadsheet to add information about the origin of each of the > passengers, and the list would be useful to many more people if that > can be done. > > So my plea is for information, any information, about the origins of > passengers on the St Lawrence that can be added to the spreadsheet. > > ___________________________________________ > Keith Dash > Sydney, Australia > Isle of Tiree Genealogy: www.tireegenealogy.com > Isle of Coll Genealogy: www.collgenealogy.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    10/20/2011 12:15:37
    1. [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Ship "St Lawrence" Tobermory to Cape Breton, Canada, 1828
    2. Keith Dash
    3. In 1826 Maclean of Coll began to depopulate the Isle of Rum so he could lease the whole island to a single tenant. In July of that year about 300 of the island's residents, around three-quarters of the total population, were sent in two ships, the Highland Lad and the Dove of Harmony, to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia. The remaining Rum islanders were sent to Cape Breton in 1828 on the St Lawrence, which sailed from Tobermory on 12 July 1828. In the passenger list of the St Lawrence in J.L. MacDougall's (1922) book History of Inverness County, Nova Scotia all 208 passengers on the ship are shown as being from Rum. However it is known that at least 7 persons (in one family) were from Coll, and it has been said that some150 were from Muck (see http://www.isleofrum.com/isleofrum-histor.html). Because it relates to emigrants from Coll, the passenger list of the St Lawrence, extracted from J.L.MacDougall's book and entered into a searchable Excel spreadsheet, has been added to the Emigrant Ships page of the Isle of Coll Genealogy website. There is room in the spreadsheet to add information about the origin of each of the passengers, and the list would be useful to many more people if that can be done. So my plea is for information, any information, about the origins of passengers on the St Lawrence that can be added to the spreadsheet. ___________________________________________ Keith Dash Sydney, Australia Isle of Tiree Genealogy: www.tireegenealogy.com Isle of Coll Genealogy: www.collgenealogy.com

    10/20/2011 04:37:01
    1. [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] lunch
    2. James St.Clair
    3. Olga - if Friday is okay with you all, then that will be great - will need to be at Arts Centre about 1:20 so should I arrive around noon? Jim

    10/11/2011 09:32:26
    1. [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Marrion Black in 1841 Census
    2. Linda M. Towne
    3. Hello. I was wondering if anyone has identified the Marrion Black in the 1841 Census as shown below (transcription from MullGen - thanks) 1841 Iona District : 5 Page No : 3 House No : 14 Locality : Toatbreae district 18411172 Black Alexander 25 Shoemaker Y in Parish Black Marrion 70 Y in Parish Black Ann 11 Y in Parish Beaton Cathrine 30 Y in Parish Alexander Black is, I believe, the son of Duncan Black/Flora McPhail. Ann Black is his sister. I'm wondering if perhaps Marrion might be an Aunt (sister to Duncan) or Aunt-in-law (widow of Duncan's brother)? I have not yet identified Duncan's parents. Can anyone shed any light? Thank you -- Linda MacCormick Towne www.ancestralplaces.co.uk

    10/09/2011 02:20:49
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] MacLean/Druimighigha/Toloisk Isle of Mull
    2. Ian Phillips
    3. Hi Jacqueline, Don't forget that the maclean.org website has extensive genealogy records. Ian On 2 October 2011 23:25, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Margaret: > I am still trying to put all these McLeans together as there are so many > Johns and Lachlans. Have started making up a card for each Mclean and > after > I get through all the messages plus what I have, maybe something will come > up better. > Thank you for your information. If you have any pictures of the McLeans or > Colquhouns, would it be possible to get a scanned copy from ;you as I have > many old pictures from the farm that I have no idea who they are, but most > are taken in Toronto, Ontario. > Thanks again. > Jacqueline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:38 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] MacLean/Druimighigha/Toloisk Isle of Mull > > > > The following is from an article published in the Standard Freeholder > > newspaper, Cornwall, Ontario, 1951, by Jenny MacLean [my aunt]. She > > reproduced the article about "Finch" Township by Sara Eamon written in > > 1931. The following might be of interest: "Peter MacLean landed at > > Montreal, ascended the Ottawa River to B ytown and followed the Rideau to > > Perth where some of his people had settled.and where he, too, expected to > > settle. Later he came to Finch to visit relative, Lachlan MacLean, > father > > of George L. MacLean [my grandfather..mc] Hector MacLean, a brother, and > > sister, Ann, settled on next farm. They walked all the way from Perth > > .......the MacLeans had an adventurous passage across the Atlantic. They > > came over on the vessel "The Catharine of Belfast"....." > > > > The aforementioned Hector MacLean, first cousin to my great grandfater, > > Lachlan MacLean, wrote an article for a Montreal newspaper about the > > 'crossing'. They began the journey from Tobermory on the Catharine of > > Belfast in May 1843, but the ship floundered after some weeks at sea and > > landed in Belfast where the passengers had to wait until September 2nd, > > 1843, to board another ship, "The John and the Robert". Many of the > > passengers landed near Canso, and twenty two others continued on to > Quebec > > City where my gt grandfather and his siblings and widowed mother, and > > Hector and his widowed mother and siblings continued to join relatives in > > Cornwall. The venture to Perth didn't last too long for Peter[Padraig] > > and Hector. Peter MacLean is buried in the Goldfireld Cemetery west of > > Finch Village, and Hector and Lachlan, my gt grandfather, are buried in > > the Finch Cemetery. Some of this might be familiar to you because it > has > > been posted a few years ago, but I thought, perhaps! > > , that more information might be forthcoming about the MacLeans in/or > near > > the town of Perth in Ontario. > > > > There is a cemetery named "The Colquhoun" Cemetery just east of the > > village of Williamsburg in Dundas County, Ontario [SDandG] [my > graunduncle > > is buried in the Colquhoun Cem] Also, I knew members of a Colquhour > family > > a long time ago which had lived in Cornwall.at one time but I don't think > > there are any members of that family now living in Cornwall. The name > > "Colquhoun" was not a name connected to SDandG. That was interesting to > > note that they might have come from Lanark County. and from Isle of > Tiree. > > I do know that I was always told that my grandfather was 'related' to the > > MacLeans at Perth, and the family in Cornwall, but not to the MacLean > > family at Osnabruck Centre [south of Finch] who came from Kinlochaline] > > but I don't have any details. In the same way, a descendant of John > > MacLean, son of Neil MacLean, born 1759 Dervaig, Isle of Mull, toldl my > > cousin and me that we descended from his "John", but I can' t find the > > detailsl, although from a photograph I have of m! > > y great grandfather, Lachlan MacLean, he resembles Archibald MacLean, > born > > 1791 [son of Neil] in a very uncanny manner. I do know we are related to > > the family that had lived in Cornwall. The family at Finch[Goldfield] > > was also known as the 'Duart" MacLeans. it's difficult to trace back on > > these families for more details, even though there is a relationship. > > i.e. = the MacLeans of Moose Creek, Ontario, and the family at Dunvegan > > migrated form the Isle of Skye, and the MacLean family which had settled > > at Greenfield, Ontario, emigrated from Lochaber. The MacLeans at > > Goldfiield were related to each other, but another MacLean family three > > miles north of Finch village at Berwick had emigrated in the Selkirk > > emigration and came from Isle of Uist.. I was curious about Lanark and > > town of Perth because of what was told to me. John MacLean who was > > married to Flora MacInnes was born about 1789 on Mull. These families > > were so large and had so many children...all, usually, wit! > > h the same first names..... Was your John MacLean related to the John > > MacLean who remained in Lanark County, and to the Lachlan MacLean of > > Lanark County? They seem to have been a geneartion older than Hector > and > > Lachlan, my gt. Sometimes, these families settled together in one > > location[i.e Finch[Goldfield] Cornwall//Stormont/and, or Lanark]. > > Druimighigha seems to be the key word. > > > > > > The locations named Redel [Reudle] Burg and Druimighigha on the Torloisk > > property seemed to be 'connected' to my Goldfireld MacLeans. > > I think that John MacLean who married Flora MacInnes was from Fanmore, > not > > too distant to Burg and Reudel [also on Torloisk property][two of his > > descendants told me that my Mother was their third cousin]. Hector was > > born at Druimighigha.[my gt grandfather's first cousin] > > If our MacLeans havea connection to Druimighigha and settled in Lanark, > > then they might possibly be distantly related to Hector and Lachlan. > Just > > a thought. > > > > Margaret Cameron > > Long Sault > > Ontario > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/03/2011 05:12:13
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] MacLean/Druimighigha/Toloisk Isle of Mull
    2. Hello Margaret: I am still trying to put all these McLeans together as there are so many Johns and Lachlans. Have started making up a card for each Mclean and after I get through all the messages plus what I have, maybe something will come up better. Thank you for your information. If you have any pictures of the McLeans or Colquhouns, would it be possible to get a scanned copy from ;you as I have many old pictures from the farm that I have no idea who they are, but most are taken in Toronto, Ontario. Thanks again. Jacqueline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:38 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] MacLean/Druimighigha/Toloisk Isle of Mull > The following is from an article published in the Standard Freeholder > newspaper, Cornwall, Ontario, 1951, by Jenny MacLean [my aunt]. She > reproduced the article about "Finch" Township by Sara Eamon written in > 1931. The following might be of interest: "Peter MacLean landed at > Montreal, ascended the Ottawa River to B ytown and followed the Rideau to > Perth where some of his people had settled.and where he, too, expected to > settle. Later he came to Finch to visit relative, Lachlan MacLean, father > of George L. MacLean [my grandfather..mc] Hector MacLean, a brother, and > sister, Ann, settled on next farm. They walked all the way from Perth > .......the MacLeans had an adventurous passage across the Atlantic. They > came over on the vessel "The Catharine of Belfast"....." > > The aforementioned Hector MacLean, first cousin to my great grandfater, > Lachlan MacLean, wrote an article for a Montreal newspaper about the > 'crossing'. They began the journey from Tobermory on the Catharine of > Belfast in May 1843, but the ship floundered after some weeks at sea and > landed in Belfast where the passengers had to wait until September 2nd, > 1843, to board another ship, "The John and the Robert". Many of the > passengers landed near Canso, and twenty two others continued on to Quebec > City where my gt grandfather and his siblings and widowed mother, and > Hector and his widowed mother and siblings continued to join relatives in > Cornwall. The venture to Perth didn't last too long for Peter[Padraig] > and Hector. Peter MacLean is buried in the Goldfireld Cemetery west of > Finch Village, and Hector and Lachlan, my gt grandfather, are buried in > the Finch Cemetery. Some of this might be familiar to you because it has > been posted a few years ago, but I thought, perhaps! > , that more information might be forthcoming about the MacLeans in/or near > the town of Perth in Ontario. > > There is a cemetery named "The Colquhoun" Cemetery just east of the > village of Williamsburg in Dundas County, Ontario [SDandG] [my graunduncle > is buried in the Colquhoun Cem] Also, I knew members of a Colquhour family > a long time ago which had lived in Cornwall.at one time but I don't think > there are any members of that family now living in Cornwall. The name > "Colquhoun" was not a name connected to SDandG. That was interesting to > note that they might have come from Lanark County. and from Isle of Tiree. > I do know that I was always told that my grandfather was 'related' to the > MacLeans at Perth, and the family in Cornwall, but not to the MacLean > family at Osnabruck Centre [south of Finch] who came from Kinlochaline] > but I don't have any details. In the same way, a descendant of John > MacLean, son of Neil MacLean, born 1759 Dervaig, Isle of Mull, toldl my > cousin and me that we descended from his "John", but I can' t find the > detailsl, although from a photograph I have of m! > y great grandfather, Lachlan MacLean, he resembles Archibald MacLean, born > 1791 [son of Neil] in a very uncanny manner. I do know we are related to > the family that had lived in Cornwall. The family at Finch[Goldfield] > was also known as the 'Duart" MacLeans. it's difficult to trace back on > these families for more details, even though there is a relationship. > i.e. = the MacLeans of Moose Creek, Ontario, and the family at Dunvegan > migrated form the Isle of Skye, and the MacLean family which had settled > at Greenfield, Ontario, emigrated from Lochaber. The MacLeans at > Goldfiield were related to each other, but another MacLean family three > miles north of Finch village at Berwick had emigrated in the Selkirk > emigration and came from Isle of Uist.. I was curious about Lanark and > town of Perth because of what was told to me. John MacLean who was > married to Flora MacInnes was born about 1789 on Mull. These families > were so large and had so many children...all, usually, wit! > h the same first names..... Was your John MacLean related to the John > MacLean who remained in Lanark County, and to the Lachlan MacLean of > Lanark County? They seem to have been a geneartion older than Hector and > Lachlan, my gt. Sometimes, these families settled together in one > location[i.e Finch[Goldfield] Cornwall//Stormont/and, or Lanark]. > Druimighigha seems to be the key word. > > > The locations named Redel [Reudle] Burg and Druimighigha on the Torloisk > property seemed to be 'connected' to my Goldfireld MacLeans. > I think that John MacLean who married Flora MacInnes was from Fanmore, not > too distant to Burg and Reudel [also on Torloisk property][two of his > descendants told me that my Mother was their third cousin]. Hector was > born at Druimighigha.[my gt grandfather's first cousin] > If our MacLeans havea connection to Druimighigha and settled in Lanark, > then they might possibly be distantly related to Hector and Lachlan. Just > a thought. > > Margaret Cameron > Long Sault > Ontario > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/02/2011 01:25:22