Where I live I can still see concreted over spaces where a window might have been. Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Dash" <[email protected]> > The 1861 Census recorded, for the first time, the number of windowed > rooms (i.e. rooms with one or more windows) in each dwelling. Why > this information was recorded is unclear because the Window Tax ended > in Scotland more than 60 years before in 1798 (this from > ScotandsPeople). However the data do give us an idea of the typical > Tiree dwelling in 1861, which had 2 or 3 windowed rooms (79% of all > dwellings) and accommodated 5-6 people. Dwellings with none, no > recorded windows, or just one windowed room accounted for a further > 16% of dwellings, and 5% had 4 or more windowed rooms. > > The illustrations of a Tiree thatched dwelling in "The Land Below the > Waves: Tiree Past and Present", by Donneil Kennedy, and the excellent > pamphlet of the Sandaig Museum by the Hebridean Trust, show a house > with 3 windowed rooms typical of the 1850s and 1860s. > > > ___________________________________________ > Keith Dash > Sydney, Australia > Isle of Tiree Genealogy: www.tireegenealogy.com > Isle of Coll Genealogy: www.collgenealogy.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Hi All For those following this thread. Re : this posting I had a very good friend Sue check out Ancestry.ca for the birth and she found Augustus Nigel McDougall b 19 Jan 1870 s/o Neil McDougall and Isabella Munro, clergyman in Eldon. Victoria Co., Ont So thanks Sue, Les, and Tricia for all your help. I'm sure someone will claim this family someday. Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Horn To: [email protected] Cc: Merle & Ida King Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDougall's born in Canada ? NEIL M DOUGALL, born 2nd April 5 1829, eldest son of John M., pro curator, Oban, and Christina M Culloch ; educated at Univ. of Glasgow ; ord. to Ardrishaig in 18G3 ; missionary at Indian Lands, Canada, 18G4-7 ; adm. to Eldon, Canada, 19th June 1867 ; trans, to Coll 24th Sept. 1877 ; dep. 29th May 1895 ; reponed May 1901 ; adm. here in 1905 ; died 30th April 190G. He marr. (1) a lady unknown, (In a further posting Les mentioned her name as ? Munro) and had issue Albert Lome, born 4th July 1868 ; Augustus Nigel, born 19th Jan. 1870; <snipped rest of message>

Hello, Re: my Great Granmother Mary Finch Harris nee McEwen Are there any records of William Peter Harris and Mary Finch (nee McEwen) living around Mull? Marrying in the area? I have searched the internet and found nothing. I cannot find anything about the McEwens that went to South Africa - or if it was just Mary.Except a record from the Marienne DEPOT KAB SOURCE MOK TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 1/1/1137 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 6263 PART 1 DESCRIPTION HARRIS, MARY FINCH. NEE MCEWEN. ESTATE PAPERS. STARTING 19480000 ENDING19480000 (she died 12 April 1948) Who were Mary's parents ? When did they / she emmigrate to RSA? from Where? which ship? Where do most McEwens live in RSA today? I have a Mary Finch McEwen (died 12 April 1948 ) married to William Peter Harris - lived in Kimberley (thanks to marienne ([email protected] for providing the Surname McEwen) Regards Ivan Harris

The sections of this publication dealing with Tiree and Coll can be found on the Churches in Tiree & Coll page of www.tireegenealogy.com and www.collgenealogy.com. Regards, Keith. >Message: 3 >Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:16:10 +0100 (CET) >From: Les Horn <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae, Volume I & > II The succession of Scottish ministers in the Church of > Scotland from > the Reformation, by the Rev. Hew Scott, D.D. >To: [email protected] >Cc: landnafhg <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >Hi all > >Ida's query re the Rev Neil McDougall sparked a number of e-mails >about the Fasti. > >First published in 1886 they were updated in the early 1900's. These >may all be accessed on-line as .pdf's - >http://www.dwalker.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Map.htm - but beware they >are all quite sizeable downloads.? For those of you not used to >.pdf's. Once the Volume has downloaded put your cursor accross the >bottom of the screen to bring up the (hidden) tool bar.? Click on >the bow sign at the right.? This will bring up the side-bar from >where you can search. > >The reference to county names, eg Argyll, does not restrict the >entry to that Civil County > >Regards >Les > >Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae, >The succession of Scottish ministers in the >Church of Scotland from the Reformation, >by the Rev. Hew Scott, D.D. 1866. > >Vol I. Synod of Lothian and Tweeddale. - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1915 >Vol II. Synods of Merse and Teviotdale Dumfries & Galloway - >Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1915 >Vol III. Synod of Glasgow & Ayr - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1920 >Vol IV. Synods of Argyll and of Perth and Stirling - Edinburgh: >Oliver and Boyd, 1923 >Vol V. Synod of Fife, and of Angus and Mearns. - Edinburgh: Oliver >and Boyd, 1925 >Vol VI.Synods of Aberdeen and of Moray. - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1926 >Vol VII. Synods of Ross, Sutherland and Caithness, Glenelg, Orkney >and Shetland, - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1928 >Vol VIII. Ministers of the Church from date of publication of >volumes I-VII, 1914-28, to union of the churches, 2nd October 1929, >and addenda and corrigenda, 1560-1949, - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1928

Hi Les, Thanks for giving us a lead to that link. I see from another page a CD but it appears not to be compatible with anything higher than XP? I thought it was worth passing on my observation in case any one has purchased a more up to date CD. Janet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Horn" <[email protected]> > Hi all > > Ida's query re the Rev Neil McDougall sparked a number of e-mails about the Fasti. > > First published in 1886 they were updated in the early 1900's. These may all be accessed > on-line as .pdf's - http://www.dwalker.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Map.htm - but beware they > are all quite sizeable downloads. For those of you not used to .pdf's. Once the Volume > has downloaded put your cursor accross the bottom of the screen to bring up the (hidden) > tool bar. Click on the bow sign at the right. This will bring up the side-bar from where > you can search. > > The reference to county names, eg Argyll, does not restrict the entry to that Civil > County > > Regards > Les > > Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae, > The succession of Scottish ministers in the > Church of Scotland from the Reformation, > by the Rev. Hew Scott, D.D. 1866. > > Vol I. Synod of Lothian and Tweeddale. - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1915 > Vol II. Synods of Merse and Teviotdale Dumfries & Galloway - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, > 1915 > Vol III. Synod of Glasgow & Ayr - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1920 > Vol IV. Synods of Argyll and of Perth and Stirling - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1923 > Vol V. Synod of Fife, and of Angus and Mearns. - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1925 > Vol VI.Synods of Aberdeen and of Moray. - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1926 > Vol VII. Synods of Ross, Sutherland and Caithness, Glenelg, Orkney and Shetland, - > Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1928 > Vol VIII. Ministers of the Church from date of publication of volumes I-VII, 1914-28, to > union of the churches, 2nd October 1929, and addenda and corrigenda, 1560-1949, - > Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1928 > > Also of interest : > > Vols I & II. The History of the congregations of the United Presbyterian Church, from > 1733 to 1900 (1904) > Vols I to IV. The history of the Church of Scotland : from the Reformation to the > present time (1843)

Hi Les & Tricia Thanks ever so much for the following and going the extra mile on this one As you sent me this as attached I'll include it here with Tricia's 1841 census info this way they can both be Archived. Sorry the formating goes to pot here... Hopefully the info comes out ok (:-))) And whoever belongs to this family can decide if it's the same family or not. Ida [email protected] Hi Ida Done a bit more digging. I looked at John Brown McDougall's birth, Neil McDougall's 2nd marriage and death. I've attached copies of these entries. I wondered if they would show something. John Brown McDougall's birth entry shows his parents, as Neil and Agnes Brown, married in Irvine (AYR) on 16/1/1884. Neil and Agnes's marriage entry only shows him as being widowed. However his death entry - in which intertestingly he's shown as Nigel - shows his 1st wife as ____ Munro. I also found the Canadian child - Somerled - missing from the 1881 Census. He's with his Grandfather, Aunts and Cousin. 1881 Kilmore & Kilbride ARL Psh 523 ED1 pg 34 - Selma Villa John McDOUGALL Head Wdwr 80 Registrar b Kilmore & Kilbride ARL Isabella McDOUGALL Dau Unm 44 Housekeeper b Kilfinichen ARL Mary McDOUGALL Dau Unm 40 Dressmaker b Kilfinichen ARL Jessie C McDOUGALL Dau Unm 38 Teacher b Saddell ARL Somerled McDOUGALL GrDau Unm 5 Scholar b Manitoba Bessie McDOUGALL GrDau Unm 14 Scholar b Londonderry MSX England - bit dubious about this birth place. Catherine BELL Serv Unm 19 Dom Serv b Kilfinichen ARL Hope this is of use. Les From: "Tricia Barnett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDougall's born in Canada ? Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: St Peters Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Peters Folio: 266 Page: 5 Address: Wood Lane -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 　 　 Surname 　 First name(s) 　 Sex 　 Age 　 Occupation 　 Where Born 　 Remarks 　 　 　 　 MUNROW 　 Donald 　 M 　 30 　 Shoe Maker 　 Outside Census County (1841) 　 　 　 　 　 　 MCDOUGAL 　 John 　 M 　 40 　 School Master 　 Outside Census County (1841) 　 　 　 　 　 　 MCDOUGAL 　 (Mrs) 　 F 　 40 　 　 　 Outside Census County (1841) 　 　 　 　 　 　 MCDOUGAL 　 Neil 　 M 　 12 　 　 　 Outside Census County (1841) 　 　 　 　 　 　 MCDOUGAL 　 Isabella 　 F 　 10 　 　 　 Outside Census County (1841) 　 　 　 　 　 　 MCDOUGAL 　 Alexr 　 M 　 8 　 　 　 Outside Census County (1841) 　 　 　 　 　 　 MCDOUGAL 　 Mary 　 F 　 6 　 　 　 Outside Census County (1841) 　 　 　 　 　 　 MCDOUGAL 　 Jessie 　 F 　 3 　 　 　 Outside Census County (1841) 　 　 　 　 　 　 MCDOUGAL 　 Dougal 　 M 　 14m 　 　 　 Outside Census County (1841) 　 　 　 　 Tricia 　

Hi Ida I have me doubts about the 1841 Census for Wood Lane, Glasgow St. Peters, being the same family as that in 1881 for Selma Villa, Kilmore & Kilbride ie that of Rev Neil at the Parish House, Coll, in 1881.  According to the 1881 Selma Villa Census Mary (40) would, at most, be 1 yr old and Jessie (38) wouldn'y have even been thought of in 1841. Interestingly in the 1851 Census there is a Neil McDougal (21) a student in the "Normal Institution" - ie part of the Uni - in Edinburgh but from the Isle of Mull.  As you say "Neil McDougall Apr 5 1829 has Kilfinchen for his christening so he might  be born in Oban and they moved to KLF where he was christened." and could therefore be thought of as being from Mull. Isn't Genrealogy/Family History fascinating !!  Of course it would be boring if everything was staright forward. Regards Les

Interesting it mentions Neil b Oban. 1861  Neil a Theology Student. Name: Neil Mcdougall Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Oban, Argyleshire Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Central District Civil parish: Glasgow St David County: Lanarkshire Address: 53 Holmhead St Occupation: Student Of Theology ED: 29 Household schedule number: 50 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1861_96 Household Members: Name Age Donald Campbell 48 Janet Campbell 51  and children Neil Mcdougall 30 Note 1841 census Neil aged 12 in same district with John and Christina (I sent before)  Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: St Peters Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Peters Folio: 266 Page: 5 Is it same?? ________________________________ From: Les Horn <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 17 November, 2011 16:52:19 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDougall's born in Canada ? Hi Ida/all Some more on the Rev Neil.  Confirms he was the Minister at Eldon (Parish), Victoria ON and not the Eldon's in PEI, SSK or NB. Regards Les A historical and statistical report of the Presbyterian church in Canada in connection with the Church of Scotland for the year 1866 38. Eldon....................... The Rev. Neil McDougall, a native of Oban, Argyll - shire, who had been for three years stationed at Indian Lands (95), was inducted 19th June, 1867. In connection with this there is a branch Congregation at Bal- sover, recently erected into a separate charge, but which has not yet succeeded in obtaining a Minister. Mr. Duncan McCrno of this place, in a spirit deserving of the highest commendation, erected at his own expense a beautiful Church, and made it over in a free gift to the Congregation. There is a glebe of lo acres, and the Con- gregation numbers about 70 families

Hi Ida/all Some more on the Rev Neil.  Confirms he was the Minister at Eldon (Parish), Victoria ON and not the Eldon's in PEI, SSK or NB. Regards Les A historical and statistical report of the Presbyterian church in Canada in connection with the Church of Scotland for the year 1866 38. Eldon. The Township of this name was settled forty years ago by High- landers from Inverness and Argyle-shires, and embraces a large ex- tent of very fine land. The church, which was built in 1846, has recently undergone repairs and embellishment, and is now comfort- ably seated for 500 persons. There is a good manse. The glebe is very valuable, comprising 200 acres of land, one-half of which is in a good state of cultivation. The Rev. John McMurchy, the first Minister of the Congregation, was a native of Killearn, Cantyre, Scotland. He came to Canada in 1841, was inducted to Bradford in the following year, and translated to Eldon in 1844. Much respected for warmth of heart, " a man of independent mind *' he went in and out among his attached Highland Congregation till his death, which occurred suddenly, from heart disease, 22nd Sep- tember, 186C. The Rev. Neil McDougall, a native of Oban, Argyll - shire, who had been for three years stationed at Indian Lands (95), was inducted 19th June, 1867. In connection with this there is a branch Congregation at Bal- sover, recently erected into a separate charge, but which has not yet succeeded in obtaining a Minister. Mr. Duncan McCrno of this place, in a spirit deserving of the highest commendation, erected at his own expense a beautiful Church, and made it over in a free gift to the Congregation. There is a glebe of lo acres, and the Con- gregation numbers about 70 families 95. Indian Lands. The Indian Lands of Glengary is a strip of two or three miles in width, running through the centre of the County, originally reserved for the benefit of the aborigines. Like most of the other Indian Reserves hi Canada, this has long since passed into the hands of their white bretbren. This congregation was formerl_y a !)ranch of the charge of Martintown. undei- Mr. Council. The llev. Daniel Clark (80) Avas inducted as Minister of it, 28th August, 1880. He left the Church in 1844. Since then no Minister has been settled, although it has always been occupied as a Mission Station. During the last three years the Rev. Niel McDougall, an ordained missionary from the Colonial Committee, and now Minister of Eldon (-38), has given stated supply. There is an old frame Church here, also a small manse, and 170 acres of * While these sheets arc issuing from the press, I learn that the Rev. Alex- ander McKay, formerly of Salt S|)rings, Nova Scotia, has heen inducted to the charge of Lochiel. Mr. McKay was eight years in his former chr.rgc and comes among us with high testimonials. F ' -I ■ ■ i ' V ; i i 82 fflebc, of which 50 acres are cleared. A frame Church has recently been built in the adjoining Township of Roxboro, connected with Avhich there are thirty-one families. In all there are eighty-six families, and with good management they might easily support a Minister. 

I sent the census for1841 but don't hink it was correct format. Glasgow Lanarkshire:  John 40 Schoolmaster, Christina 40.. Neil 12 Isabella 10 Alex 8 Mary 6 Jessie 3 Dougal 14 m all born outside county.

Hi Tricia Thanks for this as well. It paints a great picture for Ian (;-))) It's always nice to have the census info included or I wouldn't have looked for the other Dugald & Janet/Jessie. Yes I'd say that the 2 Neil's aged 12 and 30 are the same person you found in Glasgow. For this Neil McDougall the minster that Les mentioned previously. his parents John McDougall and Christian McCulloch m Jun 10 1828 Kilmore & Kilbride M115234, 0441 from the IGI fische I have at home. So I presume it was Oban where they both hailed from. As Neil McDougall Apr 5 1829 has Kilfinchen for his christening so he might be born in Oban and they moved to KLF where he was christened. I'll include the children and location of their christening from the IGI fische; Neil McDougal Apr 5 1829 Kilfinchen C115424, 1100 parents John McDougal & Cirsty McCulloch Isabel Jul 23 1830 KLF C115424, 1302 I must have found her under a different surname spelling Alexander Sep 7 1832 KLF C115424, 1484 I must have found her under a different surname spelling as well Mary Jul 12 1834 KLF C115424, 1654 listed as John McDugald & Christina McCulloch Dugald May 3 1836 KLF C115424, 1773 parents John MacDougall & Christina McCulloch Dugald Mar 30 1840 Saddell & Skipness C115314, 0540 parents John MacDougall & Christina McCulloch Janet MacDougall Jan 20 1838 Saddell & Skipness C115314, 0483 parents John MacDougall & Christina McCulloch thanks again Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tricia Barnett" <[email protected]> To: "Les Horn" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDougall's born in Canada ? Interesting it mentions Neil b Oban. 1861 Neil a Theology Student. Name: Neil Mcdougall Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Oban, Argyleshire Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Central District Civil parish: Glasgow St David County: Lanarkshire Address: 53 Holmhead St Occupation: Student Of Theology ED: 29 Household schedule number: 50 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1861_96 Household Members: Name Age Donald Campbell 48 Janet Campbell 51 and children Neil Mcdougall 30 Note 1841 census Neil aged 12 in same district with John and Christina (I sent before) Piece: SCT1841/644 Place: Glasgow -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 3 Civil Parish: St Peters Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Peters Folio: 266 Page: 5 Is it same?? ________________________________ From: Les Horn <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 17 November, 2011 16:52:19 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDougall's born in Canada ? Hi Ida/all Some more on the Rev Neil. Confirms he was the Minister at Eldon (Parish), Victoria ON and not the Eldon's in PEI, SSK or NB. Regards Les A historical and statistical report of the Presbyterian church in Canada in connection with the Church of Scotland for the year 1866 38. Eldon....................... The Rev. Neil McDougall, a native of Oban, Argyll - shire, who had been for three years stationed at Indian Lands (95), was inducted 19th June, 1867. In connection with this there is a branch Congregation at Bal- sover, recently erected into a separate charge, but which has not yet succeeded in obtaining a Minister. Mr. Duncan McCrno of this place, in a spirit deserving of the highest commendation, erected at his own expense a beautiful Church, and made it over in a free gift to the Congregation. There is a glebe of lo acres, and the Con- gregation numbers about 70 families ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Les Again thanks for the additions to the Fasti plus the additions of mentioning Eldon, Victoria Co., Ont below. Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Horn To: [email protected] Cc: Merle&ampIdaKing [Merle&ampIdaKing] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDougall's born in Canada ? Hi Ida/all Some more on the Rev Neil. Confirms he was the Minister at Eldon (Parish), Victoria ON and not the Eldon's in PEI, SSK or NB. Regards Les A historical and statistical report of the Presbyterian church in Canada in connection with the Church of Scotland for the year 1866 38. Eldon. The Township of this name was settled forty years ago by High- landers from Inverness and Argyle-shires, and embraces a large ex- tent of very fine land. The church, which was built in 1846, has recently undergone repairs and embellishment, and is now comfort- ably seated for 500 persons. There is a good manse. The glebe is very valuable, comprising 200 acres of land, one-half of which is in a good state of cultivation. The Rev. John McMurchy, the first Minister of the Congregation, was a native of Killearn, Cantyre, Scotland. He came to Canada in 1841, was inducted to Bradford in the following year, and translated to Eldon in 1844. Much respected for warmth of heart, " a man of independent mind *' he went in and out among his attached Highland Congregation till his death, which occurred suddenly, from heart disease, 22nd Sep- tember, 186C. The Rev. Neil McDougall, a native of Oban, Argyll - shire, who had been for three years stationed at Indian Lands (95), was inducted 19th June, 1867. In connection with this there is a branch Congregation at Bal- sover, recently erected into a separate charge, but which has not yet succeeded in obtaining a Minister. Mr. Duncan McCrno of this place, in a spirit deserving of the highest commendation, erected at his own expense a beautiful Church, and made it over in a free gift to the Congregation. There is a glebe of lo acres, and the Con- gregation numbers about 70 families 95. Indian Lands. The Indian Lands of Glengary is a strip of two or three miles in width, running through the centre of the County, originally reserved for the benefit of the aborigines. Like most of the other Indian Reserves hi Canada, this has long since passed into the hands of their white bretbren. This congregation was formerl_y a !)ranch of the charge of Martintown. undei- Mr. Council. The llev. Daniel Clark (80) Avas inducted as Minister of it, 28th August, 1880. He left the Church in 1844. Since then no Minister has been settled, although it has always been occupied as a Mission Station. During the last three years the Rev. Niel McDougall, an ordained missionary from the Colonial Committee, and now Minister of Eldon (-38), has given stated supply. There is an old frame Church here, also a small manse, and 170 acres of * While these sheets arc issuing from the press, I learn that the Rev. Alex- ander McKay, formerly of Salt S|)rings, Nova Scotia, has heen inducted to the charge of Lochiel. Mr. McKay was eight years in his former chr.rgc and comes among us with high testimonials. F ' -I ■ ■ i ' V ; i i 82 fflebc, of which 50 acres are cleared. A frame Church has recently been built in the adjoining Township of Roxboro, connected with Avhich there are thirty-one families. In all there are eighty-six families, and with good management they might easily support a Minister.

Hi all Ida's query re the Rev Neil McDougall sparked a number of e-mails about the Fasti. First published in 1886 they were updated in the early 1900's. These may all be accessed on-line as .pdf's - http://www.dwalker.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Map.htm - but beware they are all quite sizeable downloads.  For those of you not used to .pdf's. Once the Volume has downloaded put your cursor accross the bottom of the screen to bring up the (hidden) tool bar.  Click on the bow sign at the right.  This will bring up the side-bar from where you can search. The reference to county names, eg Argyll, does not restrict the entry to that Civil County Regards Les Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae, The succession of Scottish ministers in the Church of Scotland from the Reformation, by the Rev. Hew Scott, D.D. 1866. Vol I. Synod of Lothian and Tweeddale. - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1915 Vol II. Synods of Merse and Teviotdale Dumfries & Galloway - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1915 Vol III. Synod of Glasgow & Ayr - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1920 Vol IV. Synods of Argyll and of Perth and Stirling - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1923 Vol V. Synod of Fife, and of Angus and Mearns. - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1925 Vol VI.Synods of Aberdeen and of Moray. - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1926 Vol VII. Synods of Ross, Sutherland and Caithness, Glenelg, Orkney and Shetland, - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1928 Vol VIII. Ministers of the Church from date of publication of volumes I-VII, 1914-28, to union of the churches, 2nd October 1929, and addenda and corrigenda, 1560-1949, - Edinburgh: Oliver and Boyd, 1928 Also of interest : Vols I & II. The History of the congregations of the United Presbyterian Church, from 1733 to 1900 (1904) Vols I to IV. The history of the Church of Scotland : from the Reformation to the present time (1843)

Sorry I should have read all mails before posting but it sort of back up the Neil McDougall info.   Thanks Les Tricia PS my John McDougall g'father was a minister :) ________________________________ From: Tricia Barnett <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 17 November, 2011 9:41:44 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDougall's born in Canada ? He was a minister.   Did he go to Edinburgh to study ??? a Neil McDougall was a student in 1851 in Edinburgh born 5 Apr 1829 Kilfinchen... Parents John McDougal and Christina McCulloch m 10 Jun 1828. Siblings Isabella 1830 Mary 1834 Alex 1832 Dugald 1836 I was looking at Neil first names  as my gx3 grandfather was Neil McDougall b c 1767  (aka McLullich) Maybe if anyone has passenger lists to Canada !!!  and of course he returned. Off to explore some more Tricia

He was a minister.   Did he go to Edinburgh to study ??? a Neil McDougall was a student in 1851 in Edinburgh born 5 Apr 1829 Kilfinchen... Parents John McDougal and Christina McCulloch m 10 Jun 1828. Siblings Isabella 1830 Mary 1834 Alex 1832 Dugald 1836 I was looking at Neil first names  as my gx3 grandfather was Neil McDougall b c 1767  (aka McLullich) Maybe if anyone has passenger lists to Canada !!!  and of course he returned. Off to explore some more Tricia ________________________________ From: Merle & Ida King <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 16 November, 2011 20:24:40 Subject: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDougall's born in Canada ? Hi All Just wondering if anyone can shed some light on this family on Coll who has connections to Kilfinchen and Canada. thanks Ida 1881 Dwelling: Parish House Census Place: Coll, Argyll, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203563    GRO Ref    Volume 551-2    EnumDist 2    Page 2 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Neil MC DOUGALL W 51  M Kilfinichen, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Minister Of Coll Parish Albert Lorne MC DOUGALL  12  M Canada Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Agustus Cyril MC DOUGALL  10  M Canada Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Alexr. John Dan MC DOUGALL  8  M Manitoba Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Elizabeth MC DOUGALL U 25  F Kilvickeon, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Gen Serv Domestic

Hi Les Thanks ever so much for this. I'll snip my original query to the list. Now I wonder if these children weren't born in Eldon Victoria Co., Ont too bad I don't see them in the IGI fische or on-line.. Their is a very vague listing in Eldon Connection by Ray Fleming which reports a possibility that a John McDougall might be the one who brought his aged mother Mary and his eldest sister Sarah who m's John McCarroll this couple I found as having children: Mary, Margaret, Christine, Minnie, Catherine, John, Ann, Jane and Lily. Hopefully someone else has more details on this family.. Thanks again Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Horn To: [email protected] Cc: Merle & Ida King Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLEOFMULL] McDougall's born in Canada ? Ida asked This is the extract from the Fasti for the Presbetery of Argyll : NEIL M DOUGALL, born 2nd April 5 1829, eldest son of John M., pro curator, Oban, and Christina M Culloch ; educated at Univ. of Glasgow ; ord. to Ardrishaig in 18G3 ; missionary at Indian Lands, Canada, 18G4-7 ; adm. to Eldon, Canada, 19th June 1867 ; trans, to Coll 24th Sept. 1877 ; dep. 29th May 1895 ; reponed May 1901 ; adm. here in 1905 ; died 30th April 190G. He marr. (1) a lady unknown, and had issue Albert Lome, born 4th July 1868 ; Augustus Nigel, born 19th Jan. 1870; Alexander John Daniel, born 8th July 1872 ; Somerled, born 16th April 1874 : (2) 15th Jan. 1884, Agnes Macrae Sandilands, daugh. of John Brown, and had issue John Brown, born 16th July 1885, died 1st Nov. 1918 ; Frederick George, civil and mining engineer, born 14th Nov. 1887, died at Troon, 10th Aug. 1921 ; Nigel William, born 4th Jan. 1894, died 26th July 1895. http://ia600408.us.archive.org/25/items/fastiecclesiu04scotuoft/fastiecclesiu04scotuoft.pdf Regards Les =

Ida asked > Just wondering if anyone can shed some light on this family on Coll who has connections to Kilfinchen and Canada. > 1881 Dwelling: Parish House > Census Place: Coll, Argyll, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203563 GRO Ref Volume 551-2 EnumDist 2 Page 2 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Neil MC DOUGALL W 51 M Kilfinichen, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Minister Of Coll Parish > Albert Lorne MC DOUGALL 12 M Canada > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Agustus Cyril MC DOUGALL 10 M Canada > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Alexr. John Dan MC DOUGALL 8 M Manitoba > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Elizabeth MC DOUGALL U 25 F Kilvickeon, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Serv > Occ: Gen Serv Domestic This is the extract from the Fasti for the Presbetery of Argyll : NEIL M DOUGALL, born 2nd April 5 1829, eldest son of John M., pro curator, Oban, and Christina M Culloch ; educated at Univ. of Glasgow ; ord. to Ardrishaig in 18G3 ; missionary at Indian Lands, Canada, 18G4-7 ; adm. to Eldon, Canada, 19th June 1867 ; trans, to Coll 24th Sept. 1877 ; dep. 29th May 1895 ; reponed May 1901 ; adm. here in 1905 ; died 30th April 190G. He marr. (1) a lady unknown, and had issue Albert Lome, born 4th July 1868 ; Augustus Nigel, born 19th Jan. 1870; Alexander John Daniel, born 8th July 1872 ; Somerled, born 16th April 1874 : (2) 15th Jan. 1884, Agnes Macrae Sandilands, daugh. of John Brown, and had issue John Brown, born 16th July 1885, died 1st Nov. 1918 ; Frederick George, civil and mining engineer, born 14th Nov. 1887, died at Troon, 10th Aug. 1921 ; Nigel William, born 4th Jan. 1894, died 26th July 1895. http://ia600408.us.archive.org/25/items/fastiecclesiu04scotuoft/fastiecclesiu04scotuoft.pdf Regards Les

Les, I haven't yet got my head around Fasti. Are they recorded in Counties? Where does one go to search all Fasti records please? Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Horn" <[email protected]> > > http://ia600408.us.archive.org/25/items/fastiecclesiu04scotuoft/fastiecclesiu04scotuoft.pdf > > Regards > Les

Hi All Just wondering if anyone can shed some light on this family on Coll who has connections to Kilfinchen and Canada. thanks Ida 1881 Dwelling: Parish House Census Place: Coll, Argyll, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203563 GRO Ref Volume 551-2 EnumDist 2 Page 2 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Neil MC DOUGALL W 51 M Kilfinichen, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Minister Of Coll Parish Albert Lorne MC DOUGALL 12 M Canada Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Agustus Cyril MC DOUGALL 10 M Canada Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Alexr. John Dan MC DOUGALL 8 M Manitoba Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Elizabeth MC DOUGALL U 25 F Kilvickeon, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Serv Occ: Gen Serv Domestic

I have received a request for help from John MacDonald who lives in the UK and whose email address is [email protected] He has a black and white postcard with date stamp July 17 1911 that was in his grandmother’s effects when she died. The pc has a photograph of a park with some benches and railings on a footbridge which appears to be across a small river and is entitled “Park and River View Walkerville Ontario”. It is addressed to Misses MacArthur, farm, Uisgean, Bunessan, Ross of Mull, Scotland and the message reads “Dear Maggie and Flora We hope you are both keeping well. I wish I was in the Highlands with our Folks. It wont be long till I come home to see you all. With best love from your cousins Mary and Jim Stewart + kisses from Archie”. Are there any listers with McArthur or Stewart interests who can shed some light on this. I’ve suggested John joins the list but you could also reply to him direct. His mother’s family were MacArthurs from Uisgean, Ross of Mull and he knows that his g.grandmother had a sister Maggie/Margaret. They went to Colonsay with John’s grandfather when he was in his twenties so he thinks the Misses MacArthur would have been in their mid forties, early fifties in 1911. I’m sure John can supply further details if any of this rings a bell. Any help will be much appreciated. Jill