Hi John: In the 1841 census I show Donald McEwan 66 and Janet 45 living at Upper Killean and in the 1851 census neither Donald or Janet appear anywhere on Islay. Also there is no death record in the 1855-1875 time period for either of them. This could not be the couple married in 1802. I went back and checked the original census record for 1841 and her 45 age is clearly written. Ted Larson KenHarrison11@cs.com wrote: >In a message dated 06/04/2006 2:35:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, >mcewanj@xtra.co.nz writes: > > >>Dear Jim >> >>I have a Janet Calder marrying a Donald McEwing on 30 Jan 1802 in >>Kildalton. She was born ~1786 based on census records and died 1855. She >>is not a sister or relation by any chance? She is my ggggrandmother. I >>don't have her parents and I only know for certain they were married and >>that from her census she may have been in Upper Killeyan on the Oa. >> >>Cheers >> >>John McEwan >> >> > >John, > >Please excuse my "butting in". I know nothing about this group, but if you >don't already have it you really should get her death certificate. The 1855 >certificates are a goldmine of information and it may answer all the questions >you listed above. > >Ken Harrison >North Vancouver, Canada > >Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... >HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) >POTCHIT Yorkshire >FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) >GREAVES Yorkshire > London >GRIFFIN Staffordshire >STANLEY Staffordshire >SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania >STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow >BAIN Caithness >MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. Africa >SPENCE Orkney >FOTHERINGHAM Orkney >TRAILL Orkney >SELKRIG Lanark >WICKETSHAW Lanark >MORRISON Perthshire > Dumbarton > Glasgow > Australia (Vic) >MORRISON Islay > Ontario >BAIRD Renfrew >HAM Australia (Vic) >THOMPSON Suffolk > Yorkshire >AGGUS Suffolk >BRIGHTWELL Suffolk >LAWSON Clackmannanshire > Ontario >McNABB Islay > Ontario >MURRAY Dumfries > Renfrew >SINCLAIR Perthshire > Renfrew >GILLESPIE Dumfries >HENDERSON Dumfries >TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries + Lanark >CALDWELL Tyrone > Renfrew >GRAHAM Tyrone > Ontario >Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. > >Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional >attachment on this e-mail transmission. > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >To visit the website associated with this project, visit: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm > > > > >

Dear Ted Thanks for your reply, and can I say thanks for all the lists and work you have done over the years. I have to admit it is several years since I have actively been engaged in following these lines and things blur somewhat. I sort of reached the bottom of the well and have been sitting waiting watching the list for various queries from related branches. Forgive me if I have got something wrong, I know there are some inconsistencies in my records (surname spelling and ages especially) and perhaps you can help, but this is what I have: Donald McEwing/McEwan and Janet Calder had a son. Archibald McEwing who married Catherine Campbell and who died in Jan 1875 in Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire. He was listed on the death certificate as 69 = born ~1806 and his parents are also clearly listed on the death certificate and his married daughter was present at the death. His father was listed as a farmer. Archibald left Islay soon after his wife died in 1869 and went to stay close to his sons and daughters most of whom then resided near Paisley or Glasgow. I had a note of his birth as 15 Oct 1807 at Oa Islay, but this is from private correspondence not the public lists you have of births, as is also the birth date of his mother (not from a census which I misquoted). Archibald Donald's son was married in 1833 and was 33 years old and listed as a farmer in 1841 census living at upper Killeyan. Donald I presume his father is also on the rental lists in Upper Killeyan in 1828 and 1836 and was listed in the 1841 census as 66 as you note at Upper Killeyan. Donald and Janet had offspring in 1803, 1805, (1807), 1815, 1817, 1820, 1822 although the earlier births do not have their mothers name listed. A Donald McEwen and Janet Calder are listed as being married 30th Jan 1802 in Kildalton BOTP. It is pretty obvious that the Janet married to Donald can not be 45 years of age in 1841 (as listed on the census) she would have been ~6 when she married and 11 when she gave birth to her son. However, the Janet's age that was in the same household as Donald is very clear on the census records (I have a copy as well). I have been aware of this inconsistency, but just left it. The entry could be just wrong, or the Janet listed was not his wife, but that would be an unusual coincidence. There was ever only one Donald McEwen on Islay that was married to a Janet. I note his son Donald is listed with the correct age in the same household, but to my knowledge there is also no Margret McEwing born ~1837 either, nor a Janet McEwing born ~1831, but both are also listed in the same family on the census. Unfortunately the 1841 census does not have the relationship with the head of the family. A mystery, perhaps they are relatives? You are also correct that Donald and Janet don't appear in later censuses. The 1855 death record is almost certainly an error that I have corrected. This still leaves my same original question: is Janet Calder a relative of Margaret CALDER married to John MCKAY 12 Apr 1801 at Kildalton? There were a number of female Kildalton Calders who married close to 1800 usually BOTP. Cheers John McEwan -----Original Message----- From: Ted Larson [mailto:tlarson@usfamily.net] Sent: Friday, 7 April 2006 4:50 a.m. To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Flora Logan m.s. Mackay died 23 Apr 1904 Parents Dugald ... Hi John: In the 1841 census I show Donald McEwan 66 and Janet 45 living at Upper Killean and in the 1851 census neither Donald or Janet appear anywhere on Islay. Also there is no death record in the 1855-1875 time period for either of them. This could not be the couple married in 1802. I went back and checked the original census record for 1841 and her 45 age is clearly written. Ted Larson KenHarrison11@cs.com wrote: >In a message dated 06/04/2006 2:35:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, >mcewanj@xtra.co.nz writes: > > >>Dear Jim >> >>I have a Janet Calder marrying a Donald McEwing on 30 Jan 1802 in >>Kildalton. She was born ~1786 based on census records and died 1855. She >>is not a sister or relation by any chance? She is my ggggrandmother. I >>don't have her parents and I only know for certain they were married and >>that from her census she may have been in Upper Killeyan on the Oa. >> >>Cheers >> >>John McEwan >> >> > >John, > >Please excuse my "butting in". I know nothing about this group, but if you >don't already have it you really should get her death certificate. The 1855 >certificates are a goldmine of information and it may answer all the questions >you listed above. > >Ken Harrison >North Vancouver, Canada > >Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... >HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) >POTCHIT Yorkshire >FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) >GREAVES Yorkshire > London >GRIFFIN Staffordshire >STANLEY Staffordshire >SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania >STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow >BAIN Caithness >MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. Africa >SPENCE Orkney >FOTHERINGHAM Orkney >TRAILL Orkney >SELKRIG Lanark >WICKETSHAW Lanark >MORRISON Perthshire > Dumbarton > Glasgow > Australia (Vic) >MORRISON Islay > Ontario >BAIRD Renfrew >HAM Australia (Vic) >THOMPSON Suffolk > Yorkshire >AGGUS Suffolk >BRIGHTWELL Suffolk >LAWSON Clackmannanshire > Ontario >McNABB Islay > Ontario >MURRAY Dumfries > Renfrew >SINCLAIR Perthshire > Renfrew >GILLESPIE Dumfries >HENDERSON Dumfries >TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries + Lanark >CALDWELL Tyrone > Renfrew >GRAHAM Tyrone > Ontario >Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. > >Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional >attachment on this e-mail transmission. > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >To visit the website associated with this project, visit: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm > > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 visit: HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/

Hi I have much the same dilemma ..Here is my experience for what it is worth ... Some people seem to forget their age ... If we were living then we might have done the same thing ... I found one ancestor who stayed 52 for 10 years 2 census .. I know it is the same person and he was more than 52 in the first census ... I have a woman who seem to have totally forgotten her age because she was older than her husband and she made herself 5 years younger in the first census and only aged 2 years to the next 10 years .... And as far as names are concerned ... people often began using their second name to favour someone and later on changed to their first name .... Others didn't like the name they were called and they changed it to something entirely different to suit their fancy .... or make it difficult for genealogists in years to come ... I have an ongoing problem with my name ... I was registered as Margaret Jane but no one knew me as either names .. because my parents called me Jean and everyone knows me as Jean , but the government insists on official documents I should be called Margaret .... Well who on earth is Margaret ?? I will be Margaret Jane in some census but in later ones I will be Jean .....I have given instructions that my tomb stone should be inscribe with Jean or no one will know who is buried with my husband .... Just apply that to your problem .... Jean mjhutch@bmts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McEwan" <mcewanj@xtra.co.nz> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 7:37 AM Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Flora Logan m.s. Mackay died 23 Apr 1904 Parents Dugald ... > Dear Ted > > Thanks for your reply, and can I say thanks for all the lists and work > you have done over the years. > > I have to admit it is several years since I have actively been engaged > in following these lines and things blur somewhat. I sort of reached the > bottom of the well and have been sitting waiting watching the list for > various queries from related branches. > > Forgive me if I have got something wrong, I know there are some > inconsistencies in my records (surname spelling and ages especially) and > perhaps you can help, but this is what I have: Donald McEwing/McEwan and > Janet Calder had a son. Archibald McEwing who married Catherine Campbell > and who died in Jan 1875 in Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire. He was listed on > the death certificate as 69 = born ~1806 and his parents are also > clearly listed on the death certificate and his married daughter was > present at the death. His father was listed as a farmer. Archibald left > Islay soon after his wife died in 1869 and went to stay close to his > sons and daughters most of whom then resided near Paisley or Glasgow. I > had a note of his birth as 15 Oct 1807 at Oa Islay, but this is from > private correspondence not the public lists you have of births, as is > also the birth date of his mother (not from a census which I misquoted). > Archibald Donald's son was married in 1833 and was 33 years old and > listed as a farmer in 1841 census living at upper Killeyan. Donald I > presume his father is also on the rental lists in Upper Killeyan in 1828 > and 1836 and was listed in the 1841 census as 66 as you note at Upper > Killeyan. Donald and Janet had offspring in 1803, 1805, (1807), 1815, > 1817, 1820, 1822 although the earlier births do not have their mothers > name listed. A Donald McEwen and Janet Calder are listed as being > married 30th Jan 1802 in Kildalton BOTP. It is pretty obvious that the > Janet married to Donald can not be 45 years of age in 1841 (as listed on > the census) she would have been ~6 when she married and 11 when she gave > birth to her son. However, the Janet's age that was in the same > household as Donald is very clear on the census records (I have a copy > as well). > > I have been aware of this inconsistency, but just left it. The entry > could be just wrong, or the Janet listed was not his wife, but that > would be an unusual coincidence. There was ever only one Donald McEwen > on Islay that was married to a Janet. I note his son Donald is listed > with the correct age in the same household, but to my knowledge there is > also no Margret McEwing born ~1837 either, nor a Janet McEwing born > ~1831, but both are also listed in the same family on the census. > Unfortunately the 1841 census does not have the relationship with the > head of the family. A mystery, perhaps they are relatives? You are also > correct that Donald and Janet don't appear in later censuses. The 1855 > death record is almost certainly an error that I have corrected. > > This still leaves my same original question: is Janet Calder a relative > of Margaret CALDER married to John MCKAY 12 Apr 1801 at Kildalton? There > were a number of female Kildalton Calders who married close to 1800 > usually BOTP. > > Cheers > > John McEwan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Larson [mailto:tlarson@usfamily.net] > Sent: Friday, 7 April 2006 4:50 a.m. > To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Flora Logan m.s. Mackay died 23 Apr 1904 > Parents Dugald ... > > Hi John: > In the 1841 census I show Donald McEwan 66 and Janet 45 living at Upper > Killean and in the 1851 census neither Donald or Janet appear anywhere > on Islay. Also there is no death record in the 1855-1875 time period > for either of them. This could not be the couple married in 1802. I > went back and checked the original census record for 1841 and her 45 age > > is clearly written. > Ted Larson > > KenHarrison11@cs.com wrote: > > >In a message dated 06/04/2006 2:35:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, > >mcewanj@xtra.co.nz writes: > > > > > >>Dear Jim > >> > >>I have a Janet Calder marrying a Donald McEwing on 30 Jan 1802 in > >>Kildalton. She was born ~1786 based on census records and died 1855. > She > >>is not a sister or relation by any chance? She is my ggggrandmother. I > >>don't have her parents and I only know for certain they were married > and > >>that from her census she may have been in Upper Killeyan on the Oa. > >> > >>Cheers > >> > >>John McEwan > >> > >> > > > >John, > > > >Please excuse my "butting in". I know nothing about this group, but if > you > >don't already have it you really should get her death certificate. The > 1855 > >certificates are a goldmine of information and it may answer all the > questions > >you listed above. > > > >Ken Harrison > >North Vancouver, Canada > > > >Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... > >HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) > >POTCHIT Yorkshire > >FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) > >GREAVES Yorkshire > London > >GRIFFIN Staffordshire > >STANLEY Staffordshire > >SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania > >STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow > >BAIN Caithness > >MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. Africa > >SPENCE Orkney > >FOTHERINGHAM Orkney > >TRAILL Orkney > >SELKRIG Lanark > >WICKETSHAW Lanark > >MORRISON Perthshire > Dumbarton > Glasgow > Australia (Vic) > >MORRISON Islay > Ontario > >BAIRD Renfrew > >HAM Australia (Vic) > >THOMPSON Suffolk > Yorkshire > >AGGUS Suffolk > >BRIGHTWELL Suffolk > >LAWSON Clackmannanshire > Ontario > >McNABB Islay > Ontario > >MURRAY Dumfries > Renfrew > >SINCLAIR Perthshire > Renfrew > >GILLESPIE Dumfries > >HENDERSON Dumfries > >TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries + Lanark > >CALDWELL Tyrone > Renfrew > >GRAHAM Tyrone > Ontario > >Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. > > > >Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no > intentional > >attachment on this e-mail transmission. > > > > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > >To visit the website associated with this project, visit: > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 > visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To visit the website associated with this project, visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm > >

OK MJ - have added all the other names to the family tree with "Jean" noted. Hugs Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Hutchinson" <mjhutch@bmts.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Flora Logan m.s. Mackay died 23 Apr 1904 Parents Dugald ... Hi I have much the same dilemma ..Here is my experience for what it is worth ... Some people seem to forget their age ... If we were living then we might have done the same thing ... I found one ancestor who stayed 52 for 10 years 2 census .. I know it is the same person and he was more than 52 in the first census ... I have a woman who seem to have totally forgotten her age because she was older than her husband and she made herself 5 years younger in the first census and only aged 2 years to the next 10 years .... And as far as names are concerned ... people often began using their second name to favour someone and later on changed to their first name .... Others didn't like the name they were called and they changed it to something entirely different to suit their fancy .... or make it difficult for genealogists in years to come ... I have an ongoing problem with my name ... I was registered as Margaret Jane but no one knew me as either names .. because my parents called me Jean and everyone knows me as Jean , but the government insists on official documents I should be called Margaret .... Well who on earth is Margaret ?? I will be Margaret Jane in some census but in later ones I will be Jean .....I have given instructions that my tomb stone should be inscribe with Jean or no one will know who is buried with my husband .... Just apply that to your problem .... Jean mjhutch@bmts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McEwan" <mcewanj@xtra.co.nz> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 7:37 AM Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Flora Logan m.s. Mackay died 23 Apr 1904 Parents Dugald ... > Dear Ted > > Thanks for your reply, and can I say thanks for all the lists and work > you have done over the years. > > I have to admit it is several years since I have actively been engaged > in following these lines and things blur somewhat. I sort of reached the > bottom of the well and have been sitting waiting watching the list for > various queries from related branches. > > Forgive me if I have got something wrong, I know there are some > inconsistencies in my records (surname spelling and ages especially) and > perhaps you can help, but this is what I have: Donald McEwing/McEwan and > Janet Calder had a son. Archibald McEwing who married Catherine Campbell > and who died in Jan 1875 in Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire. He was listed on > the death certificate as 69 = born ~1806 and his parents are also > clearly listed on the death certificate and his married daughter was > present at the death. His father was listed as a farmer. Archibald left > Islay soon after his wife died in 1869 and went to stay close to his > sons and daughters most of whom then resided near Paisley or Glasgow. I > had a note of his birth as 15 Oct 1807 at Oa Islay, but this is from > private correspondence not the public lists you have of births, as is > also the birth date of his mother (not from a census which I misquoted). > Archibald Donald's son was married in 1833 and was 33 years old and > listed as a farmer in 1841 census living at upper Killeyan. Donald I > presume his father is also on the rental lists in Upper Killeyan in 1828 > and 1836 and was listed in the 1841 census as 66 as you note at Upper > Killeyan. Donald and Janet had offspring in 1803, 1805, (1807), 1815, > 1817, 1820, 1822 although the earlier births do not have their mothers > name listed. A Donald McEwen and Janet Calder are listed as being > married 30th Jan 1802 in Kildalton BOTP. It is pretty obvious that the > Janet married to Donald can not be 45 years of age in 1841 (as listed on > the census) she would have been ~6 when she married and 11 when she gave > birth to her son. However, the Janet's age that was in the same > household as Donald is very clear on the census records (I have a copy > as well). > > I have been aware of this inconsistency, but just left it. The entry > could be just wrong, or the Janet listed was not his wife, but that > would be an unusual coincidence. There was ever only one Donald McEwen > on Islay that was married to a Janet. I note his son Donald is listed > with the correct age in the same household, but to my knowledge there is > also no Margret McEwing born ~1837 either, nor a Janet McEwing born > ~1831, but both are also listed in the same family on the census. > Unfortunately the 1841 census does not have the relationship with the > head of the family. A mystery, perhaps they are relatives? You are also > correct that Donald and Janet don't appear in later censuses. The 1855 > death record is almost certainly an error that I have corrected. > > This still leaves my same original question: is Janet Calder a relative > of Margaret CALDER married to John MCKAY 12 Apr 1801 at Kildalton? There > were a number of female Kildalton Calders who married close to 1800 > usually BOTP. > > Cheers > > John McEwan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Larson [mailto:tlarson@usfamily.net] > Sent: Friday, 7 April 2006 4:50 a.m. > To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Flora Logan m.s. Mackay died 23 Apr 1904 > Parents Dugald ... > > Hi John: > In the 1841 census I show Donald McEwan 66 and Janet 45 living at Upper > Killean and in the 1851 census neither Donald or Janet appear anywhere > on Islay. Also there is no death record in the 1855-1875 time period > for either of them. This could not be the couple married in 1802. I > went back and checked the original census record for 1841 and her 45 age > > is clearly written. > Ted Larson > > KenHarrison11@cs.com wrote: > > >In a message dated 06/04/2006 2:35:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, > >mcewanj@xtra.co.nz writes: > > > > > >>Dear Jim > >> > >>I have a Janet Calder marrying a Donald McEwing on 30 Jan 1802 in > >>Kildalton. She was born ~1786 based on census records and died 1855. > She > >>is not a sister or relation by any chance? She is my ggggrandmother. I > >>don't have her parents and I only know for certain they were married > and > >>that from her census she may have been in Upper Killeyan on the Oa. > >> > >>Cheers > >> > >>John McEwan > >> > >> > > > >John, > > > >Please excuse my "butting in". I know nothing about this group, but if > you > >don't already have it you really should get her death certificate. The > 1855 > >certificates are a goldmine of information and it may answer all the > questions > >you listed above. > > > >Ken Harrison > >North Vancouver, Canada > > > >Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... > >HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) > >POTCHIT Yorkshire > >FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) > >GREAVES Yorkshire > London > >GRIFFIN Staffordshire > >STANLEY Staffordshire > >SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania > >STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow > >BAIN Caithness > >MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. Africa > >SPENCE Orkney > >FOTHERINGHAM Orkney > >TRAILL Orkney > >SELKRIG Lanark > >WICKETSHAW Lanark > >MORRISON Perthshire > Dumbarton > Glasgow > Australia (Vic) > >MORRISON Islay > Ontario > >BAIRD Renfrew > >HAM Australia (Vic) > >THOMPSON Suffolk > Yorkshire > >AGGUS Suffolk > >BRIGHTWELL Suffolk > >LAWSON Clackmannanshire > Ontario > >McNABB Islay > Ontario > >MURRAY Dumfries > Renfrew > >SINCLAIR Perthshire > Renfrew > >GILLESPIE Dumfries > >HENDERSON Dumfries > >TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries + Lanark > >CALDWELL Tyrone > Renfrew > >GRAHAM Tyrone > Ontario > >Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. > > > >Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no > intentional > >attachment on this e-mail transmission. > > > > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > >To visit the website associated with this project, visit: > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 > visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To visit the website associated with this project, visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information about Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm

OOOPS - I guess I already knew that but forgot! When I went into the tree to add it, it was already there. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Hutchinson" <mjhutch@bmts.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Flora Logan m.s. Mackay died 23 Apr 1904 Parents Dugald ... Hi I have much the same dilemma ..Here is my experience for what it is worth ... Some people seem to forget their age ... If we were living then we might have done the same thing ... I found one ancestor who stayed 52 for 10 years 2 census .. I know it is the same person and he was more than 52 in the first census ... I have a woman who seem to have totally forgotten her age because she was older than her husband and she made herself 5 years younger in the first census and only aged 2 years to the next 10 years .... And as far as names are concerned ... people often began using their second name to favour someone and later on changed to their first name .... Others didn't like the name they were called and they changed it to something entirely different to suit their fancy .... or make it difficult for genealogists in years to come ... I have an ongoing problem with my name ... I was registered as Margaret Jane but no one knew me as either names .. because my parents called me Jean and everyone knows me as Jean , but the government insists on official documents I should be called Margaret .... Well who on earth is Margaret ?? I will be Margaret Jane in some census but in later ones I will be Jean .....I have given instructions that my tomb stone should be inscribe with Jean or no one will know who is buried with my husband .... Just apply that to your problem .... Jean mjhutch@bmts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McEwan" <mcewanj@xtra.co.nz> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 7:37 AM Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Flora Logan m.s. Mackay died 23 Apr 1904 Parents Dugald ... > Dear Ted > > Thanks for your reply, and can I say thanks for all the lists and work > you have done over the years. > > I have to admit it is several years since I have actively been engaged > in following these lines and things blur somewhat. I sort of reached the > bottom of the well and have been sitting waiting watching the list for > various queries from related branches. > > Forgive me if I have got something wrong, I know there are some > inconsistencies in my records (surname spelling and ages especially) and > perhaps you can help, but this is what I have: Donald McEwing/McEwan and > Janet Calder had a son. Archibald McEwing who married Catherine Campbell > and who died in Jan 1875 in Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire. He was listed on > the death certificate as 69 = born ~1806 and his parents are also > clearly listed on the death certificate and his married daughter was > present at the death. His father was listed as a farmer. Archibald left > Islay soon after his wife died in 1869 and went to stay close to his > sons and daughters most of whom then resided near Paisley or Glasgow. I > had a note of his birth as 15 Oct 1807 at Oa Islay, but this is from > private correspondence not the public lists you have of births, as is > also the birth date of his mother (not from a census which I misquoted). > Archibald Donald's son was married in 1833 and was 33 years old and > listed as a farmer in 1841 census living at upper Killeyan. Donald I > presume his father is also on the rental lists in Upper Killeyan in 1828 > and 1836 and was listed in the 1841 census as 66 as you note at Upper > Killeyan. Donald and Janet had offspring in 1803, 1805, (1807), 1815, > 1817, 1820, 1822 although the earlier births do not have their mothers > name listed. A Donald McEwen and Janet Calder are listed as being > married 30th Jan 1802 in Kildalton BOTP. It is pretty obvious that the > Janet married to Donald can not be 45 years of age in 1841 (as listed on > the census) she would have been ~6 when she married and 11 when she gave > birth to her son. However, the Janet's age that was in the same > household as Donald is very clear on the census records (I have a copy > as well). > > I have been aware of this inconsistency, but just left it. The entry > could be just wrong, or the Janet listed was not his wife, but that > would be an unusual coincidence. There was ever only one Donald McEwen > on Islay that was married to a Janet. I note his son Donald is listed > with the correct age in the same household, but to my knowledge there is > also no Margret McEwing born ~1837 either, nor a Janet McEwing born > ~1831, but both are also listed in the same family on the census. > Unfortunately the 1841 census does not have the relationship with the > head of the family. A mystery, perhaps they are relatives? You are also > correct that Donald and Janet don't appear in later censuses. The 1855 > death record is almost certainly an error that I have corrected. > > This still leaves my same original question: is Janet Calder a relative > of Margaret CALDER married to John MCKAY 12 Apr 1801 at Kildalton? There > were a number of female Kildalton Calders who married close to 1800 > usually BOTP. > > Cheers > > John McEwan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Larson [mailto:tlarson@usfamily.net] > Sent: Friday, 7 April 2006 4:50 a.m. > To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Flora Logan m.s. Mackay died 23 Apr 1904 > Parents Dugald ... > > Hi John: > In the 1841 census I show Donald McEwan 66 and Janet 45 living at Upper > Killean and in the 1851 census neither Donald or Janet appear anywhere > on Islay. Also there is no death record in the 1855-1875 time period > for either of them. This could not be the couple married in 1802. I > went back and checked the original census record for 1841 and her 45 age > > is clearly written. > Ted Larson > > KenHarrison11@cs.com wrote: > > >In a message dated 06/04/2006 2:35:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, > >mcewanj@xtra.co.nz writes: > > > > > >>Dear Jim > >> > >>I have a Janet Calder marrying a Donald McEwing on 30 Jan 1802 in > >>Kildalton. She was born ~1786 based on census records and died 1855. > She > >>is not a sister or relation by any chance? She is my ggggrandmother. I > >>don't have her parents and I only know for certain they were married > and > >>that from her census she may have been in Upper Killeyan on the Oa. > >> > >>Cheers > >> > >>John McEwan > >> > >> > > > >John, > > > >Please excuse my "butting in". I know nothing about this group, but if > you > >don't already have it you really should get her death certificate. The > 1855 > >certificates are a goldmine of information and it may answer all the > questions > >you listed above. > > > >Ken Harrison > >North Vancouver, Canada > > > >Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... > >HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) > >POTCHIT Yorkshire > >FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) > >GREAVES Yorkshire > London > >GRIFFIN Staffordshire > >STANLEY Staffordshire > >SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania > >STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow > >BAIN Caithness > >MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. 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