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    1. Not From Oban
    2. Hi Sharon- This is interesting. My mother said that her mother, Lizzie Gilchrist McDougall, b. Port Ellen 1855, always said that the family was from Oban. After much mulling (!) it over, and finding absolutely zero indication that any member of the family (Gilchrists or McDougalls) had ever lived in Oban, I tentatively concluded that the reference may have been to the uber-ancestral McDougalls. If Iremember correctly, the McDougalls who populated Islay held the Oban area, te lands of Lorn in the 12th century. Total conjecture; Lizzie may have been referring to the family of her mother, Ann Kerr, or some other part of the family. BTW Sharon, Lizzie and her husband, Alexander McDougall b. Kilbride 1850, lived in Wheatland and Cheyenne for many years, as did his brothers Colin and John. This was in the 1870s and 1880s. Lizzie and Alexander relocated to Vermont in the late 19th/early 20th century, John returned to Bruce County, Ontario, where the rest of the family had emigrated, and Colin remained in Wheatland. Sue Visser also has Wyoming connections. Steffenie Kirkpatrick

    04/15/2006 03:23:39
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Not From Oban
    2. Sharon J. Huber
    3. Steffenie, Thank you for your reply. I have had contact with Sue Visser who is related to my McLarty line. While I was in Wheatland I was able to find a 2-page bio on her relative, another Islay connection, Janet McPhee/Mrs. Donald Clark, in a book entitled, "WOMEN OF WYOMING'. There is a website for the State of Wyoming that has links to the bios however, I will have to provide you with that information later as I do not remember how I accessed the site at the moment. The link takes you to the University of Wyoming Library search site. That is how I knew about the bio on Duglad McCallum. My concern about the connection to Oban is that my cousins in Grey County, Ontario believe that that is where this McCallum family originated. I have run out of vital stats on the Islay BMD's to be able to go back farther than the info my connections to my McLarty line have provided. I can account for the McCallum's in the 1841 census on Islay however that is it. The problem is that Dugald McCallum spouse of Isabella McLarty did not have his birth recorded in 1800 however, it appears that he belongs to the McCallum family that was on Islay at that time. So the question becomes, where did the family live before it came to Islay? My cousins in Ontario told me they had been to Oban several years ago and tried to research this family without success. I graciously asked if they had been to the Latona Cemetery where Dugald and Isabella (McLarty) McCallum are buried? Angela and her dad, Randy, said no. I suggested they check out the headstones because state these folks were natives of Islay, Scotland. Further, I suggested that Islay is the better starting point and working backwards from there would be what I would do. My visit to Grey and Bruce Counties, Ontario, last summer was very productive. I came away with obits, marriage and birth announcements that have supported the fact that my McCallum family is from Islay. They left Scotland in late 1844 to early 1845 for Canada. They did farm in Quebec for a year or two which supports the fact that their first child, Dugald, was born in St. Andrew, Carillon, Quebec. I found this location on the St Lawrence River, west of Montreal. The earliest land purchase in Grey County, Ontario is 1850. The 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, census records, etc, locates the McCallum and McLarty families is Bentinck, Grey County, Ontario. I have been wondering if these folks referred to the well known communities and or areas (of that day) as a point of reference only rather than that was where they lived. Is it possible that they came to Grey County by ship as opposed to traveling overland? Owen Sound is a major sea port. Thanks, Sharon Huber ----- Original Message ----- From: <Steffokirk@aol.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Not From Oban > Hi Sharon- > > This is interesting. My mother said that her mother, Lizzie Gilchrist > McDougall, b. Port Ellen 1855, always said that the family was from Oban. After > much mulling (!) it over, and finding absolutely zero indication that any > member of the family (Gilchrists or McDougalls) had ever lived in Oban, I > tentatively concluded that the reference may have been to the uber-ancestral > McDougalls. If Iremember correctly, the McDougalls who populated Islay held the > Oban area, te lands of Lorn in the 12th century. Total conjecture; Lizzie may > have been referring to the family of her mother, Ann Kerr, or some other part > of the family. > > BTW Sharon, Lizzie and her husband, Alexander McDougall b. Kilbride 1850, > lived in Wheatland and Cheyenne for many years, as did his brothers Colin and > John. This was in the 1870s and 1880s. Lizzie and Alexander relocated to > Vermont in the late 19th/early 20th century, John returned to Bruce County, > Ontario, where the rest of the family had emigrated, and Colin remained in > Wheatland. Sue Visser also has Wyoming connections. > > Steffenie Kirkpatrick > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Find out who has books and research data pertaining to Islay at the Virtual Library: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/library.htm >

    04/15/2006 09:09:27
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Not From Oban
    2. celiageary
    3. I think you're right. My William McDougall named his farm in NZ. Dunollie/Dunollie after the ancestral site at Oban but his connection to it is lost in the mists of time. This Dunollie became the name for the surrounding district. There is another Dunollie/ in NZ in the South Is. which I have not been able to source the name for as yet. Celia.

    04/16/2006 03:44:05