Hi Helen, That would be great if this is the same family. I'll try to check the 1851 census and see if I cand find them in Oro. Oops I just noticed that tombstone you mentioned said 1847. Well I'll do some digging and see what I can find. Isn't Nottawasaga in Oro Twp? Nottawasaga is where Catherine's older sister, Mary McDougall, moved to when she married Malcolm Currie. I wonder if any of the other sisters moved in that direction too. Unfortunately I don't have any other info on this family. Would you mind sending me the info you have off-line and I'll see what digging I can do (if there's any more info to be found)? when I looked up Black River in the Ontario Locator it listed 3 sites : So. Marysborough Twp in 'Prince Edward County; Black River Island; Matheson Twp in the Cochrane Dist. Are any of these near Oro? I can't find my Ontario map at the moment. I could not find any location by the name of Fawkins. One last question : does the book Kith 'N' Kin cover this area or Oro and would this family be listed in the book if it does? Christine Harenberg Helen Campbell blair <helen.blair@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Christine Just noticed the following on your recent post and certainly got quite excited when I realized the names are exactly the same as an family I am interested in. " Fifth daughter, Catherine McDougall, bn Aug 14, 1823 and married George Campbell. Per family info they had children John Campbell, Alexander Campbell, & James Campbell. Next to the info on John it lists Black River, & Fawkins. Next to the info on Alexander it lists Chicago, IL. I can't find anymore info on this family." The George of my interest was in Oro with his second wife (a distant aunt of mine) who he married in 1860. They returned to Scotland before 1871. His sons were John, Alex and James. Only Alex and James were at home in Oro in the 1861 census. I only know about John from his father's will. Fior sometime I was unable to find out anything about George's first wife - his death registration indicated she was Mary McDougald - but the information being provided by his 2nd wife's niece, as I recall, so who knows how we can depend on the accuracy of her information. There is a tombstone at Knox Oro, 1847 for CAtherine _____, wife of George Campbell. This surely must be George's wife as there was only one other George around Oro, and it very definitely is not him. It sounds to me that we are talking about the same George Campbell. What more can you tell me about Catherine and George and their children. If I can establish that we are talking about the same family, I woul d be happy to provide you any details re George should you hav e interest in him. Thanks kindly Helen cousins that remained in Grastle, Oa in the 1870s. The McDougall's living there at the time were children of Allan McDougall and Anne Gilchrist. The family info I have indicates that a sibling(s?) remained on Islay so it appears that Allan was also a brother to John. Helen Alsop of the Beaverton Thorah Eldon Historical Society appears to be related to Malcolm and I through this line.] > > Since I'm already writing about this family I'll put out a query >regarding some of the descendents that I can't find once they moved to >Ontario and perhaps someone has some info that can help shed some light on >their whereabouts. John & Christina moved from Islay to Thorah Twp in >Ontario in abt 1831. Their son Alexander moved to Blackwater, Ontario near >Brock Twp (not sure when) > > First daugther of John & Christina was Christina bn Feb 26, 1812. She >married a Mr. Bullock. I can't find a marriage registration (I realize it >is prior to the 1869 registration time frame but I didn't see them on the >MacMurchy marriage registrations either), birth registration for any >children or locate where they lived. > > Third daughter, Margaret McDougall, bn Jan 17, 1818 married a Mr. >McDonald. I cannot find a marriage registration, birth registration for >any children or locate where they lived. > > Fourth daughter, Flora McDougall, was bn Dec 29, 1820 and married Duncan >MacCuaig. Again I cannot locate this family. > > Fifth daughter, Catherine McDougall, bn Aug 14, 1823 and married George >Campbell. Per family info they had children John Campbell, Alexander >Campbell, & James Campbell. Next to the info on John it lists Black River, >& Fawkins. Next to the info on Alexander it lists Chicago, IL. I can't >find anymore info on this family. > > 6th daughter, Elizabeth McDougall, bn Apr 22, 1826. Family info lists >Eldon Station next to her info. I have not had the chance to look for her >in the census records at Eldon yet. I don't know if she married or >remained single. > > 7th daughter, Marion (Minnie) McDougall was bn Jan 21, 1829. I don't >have any more info on Minnie. > > I have found the most info on the son (8th child) Alexander's >descendents but have been unable to locate Alexander's children Christina >and James. Probably born in the 1860s or 1870s. > > If anyone can shed some light on these McDougall descendents and their >family members, I would be very appreciative. > > Christine Harenberg > >KenHarrison11@cs.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/09/2006 12:54:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, >malcolmr.campbell@sympatico.ca writes: > > Hi John > > > > I have a John McDOUGALL b. 1771 Islay at Grastle, the Oa, Islay. They > > immigrated to Ontario, settling in Thorah Twp., Beaverton, ON circa >1832. > > > > His wife was Christina McDOUGALL (nee), b. 1794, also Grastle. > > > > They brought 8 children born over 18 years, none named John. > > > > Good hunting, > > > > Malcolm CAMPBELL > > ****************** > >Malcolm, > >As I understand it (not my own research, but another Lister), John's >parents >were Alexander McDougall & Christina (Christian) Sinclair, and he had >siblings >Catherine (m. John Smith) and Angus or Peter (m. Margaret McCuaig). > >Is this the same man? >If so, I have no info on his descendants, and would appreciate learning >about >the details of the 8 children. > >Ken Harrison >North Vancouver, Canada > >Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... >HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) >POTCHIT Yorkshire >FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) >GREAVES Yorkshire > London >GRIFFIN Staffordshire >STANLEY Staffordshire >SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania >STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow >BAIN Caithness >MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. 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Would Shirley Sedore please contact me off list. We have mutual ancestors on our Rootsweb pages, McDOUGALLs at Grastle. Malcolm CAMPBELL malcolmr.campbell@sympatico.ca