Thanks Loren, What you have sent is very, very helpful, now I can cross a few off the list of people I was going to check from the census'. You and Jack are way ahead of me. I have been copying all the marriage and death indexes for the names we are looking for. Then I was going to do a search on each one. Takes a while, but it saves time going back through the film over and over. I will be continuing with George 1809, kids first. And I will post what I find. Rgds, Leslie