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    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic
    2. DIXIE CUTLER via
    3. I wish a long and happy life to our newest twig. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 26, 2015, at 7:14 PM, Malcolm Campbell via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Dear Toni > > Congratulations. Always space such important Ileach news. > > Isla is such an appropriate moniker. > > She will wear it proudly and have a tale to tell her whole life. > > Introducing her and her brother to the home land will be a grand adventure. > > My best, > > Malcolm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Toni via > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:35 PM > To: Islay > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic > > I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share > this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost > 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! > Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. > We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit! > > > That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! > > Toni > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. > Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/26/2015 01:28:34
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. Tricia Barnett via
    3. Familytreedna.co.uk or .com does a familyfinder test. Explores all dna - Have a look at the product - it gives more info

    11/26/2015 01:06:11
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic
    2. buela8 via
    3. Toni, I just had to put my two cents worth in -- my second Great grandchild is now two and a half -- and her name is Isla McIntosh ! her great great grandparents (on my side they were McMillans) emigrated from Islay to Quebec in the early 1800s Buela ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toni via" <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: "Islay" <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 5:35 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic >I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to >share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy >(almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about >bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, >Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on >our next visit! > > > That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! > > Toni > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/26/2015 12:42:13
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic
    2. Janis Eaglesham via
    3. Congratulations! On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Toni via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to > share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy > (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about > bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, > Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on > our next visit! > > > That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! > > Toni > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Janis http://janiseaglesham.com/ http://ginarubinart.com www.stavefallsartistgroup.com

    11/26/2015 10:45:42
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. L MOON via
    3. So, I think I have this right. Since my Islay connection is through my father's mother, DNA comparison in this line is impossible, right? Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Maring via &lt;sct-islay@rootsweb.com&gt; To: em paton86 &lt;em.paton86@iinet.net.au&gt;, sct-islay@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 09:48:18 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers An individual's DNA does come from both parents after having undergone some shuffling. Constants, however, are the father-to-son yDNA and the mother-to-daughter mDNA. That makes these the only readily useful tools for parent-to-child lineage research. Some of the other DNA may help establish a population group, say, where a region is occupied mainly by people with certain physical characteristics. -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of em.paton86 via Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 11:23 AM To: J&amp;K Herron; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/26/2015 05:15:39
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. em.paton86 via
    3. Ah, thank you Donald. I knew it must have gone somewhere but hoped it may be more useful than that! It is good to know why it isn't. Best regards, Mary Bigger. Stronger. Faster. Sign up for a New Free Email Account at http://MyEmail.com

    11/26/2015 04:58:17
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. Tricia Barnett via
    3. Sorry folks, On my last email replying to Mary and Susan I forgot to delete all the previous messages below mine. I pressed the send button too soon. Tricia

    11/26/2015 04:51:38
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. Donald Maring via
    3. An individual's DNA does come from both parents after having undergone some shuffling. Constants, however, are the father-to-son yDNA and the mother-to-daughter mDNA. That makes these the only readily useful tools for parent-to-child lineage research. Some of the other DNA may help establish a population group, say, where a region is occupied mainly by people with certain physical characteristics. -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of em.paton86 via Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 11:23 AM To: J&K Herron; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers

    11/26/2015 04:48:18
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. em.paton86 via
    3. Hello List, I risk sounding a little stupid but where does all the DNA which isn't direct father-son-son-son or mother-daughter-daughter-daughter fit into these tests? It seems to me we all have either: XY for males XX for females each son would receive: Y from father X from mother each daughter X from mother and X from father What happens to the X DNA that women receive from their Dads? Why can that not be tested too? I'd like to know how much of my Gigha ancestry reached me! My gg-grandmother on my father's side was from the Isle of Gigha and I believe her father also was, whereas her mother was from Killean. Likewise my McKay ancestry from grand mother is reputed to be from the far north but that too is on my father's side. Apologies if I am too daft to understand! Mary Bigger. Stronger. Faster. Sign up for a New Free Email Account at http://MyEmail.com

    11/26/2015 04:22:50
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. Tricia Barnett via
    3. MaryHave a look at the results charts on the link John gave for Ydna and also Mtdna -just for info..... you may just find some of your father's names there or others you recognise.The results on there are only from folks tested dna via familyreedna Isles of the Hebrides Project on FTDNA covers mainly Islay. > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/isleofislay/about     If for example you did a familyfinder test on    https://www.familytreedna.com/products.aspxYou would be able to see any others with same test who match and are possible relations.   (result can also be uploaded to gedmatch.com more matches may be found) EG:   To my knowledge I had no ISLAY relations but FAMILYFINDER matches found me sharing some dna with a poss 2nd - 4th cousin ...... we have not found out how we link yet but he has ISLAY ancestors and after further research I now may have family moved from Mull to Islay. Needs further exploring. McDougall Cameron Mceachern (McKechnie)  .   Susan : You wrote  :> I am confused. There seem to be so many sites  that offer DNA testing, many of them in USA which is no use to me as I live in Scotland. Susan. I am born Scotland and now live in England.  My brother first tested with Ethnoancestry (Edinburgh) -they are now ScotlandsDNA.  They couldn't transfer his results and ScotDna don't have a sharing option with others. So My brother, Myself and both my Scottish sons have all tested with familytreedna  .  The males haves done Ydna (Paternal father - son only). My brother and I have also done MTDna Mother -mother ways back and of course familyfinder.      The more people who test and can share/compare the better it gets. I have also uploaded all our results to gedmatch.com and whilst still very confused it is interesting and has confirmed a few folks who were in my paper trail also share dna.  Tricia.. From: Mary McCarthy via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: J McAfee <mcafee_clan@hotmail.com>; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2015, 7:34 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers So as my Islay ancestry comes from my mother's father, DNA comparison would not be able to cast light on that branch of my family? Mary McCarthy, Sent from my iPhone 07557668039 > On 25 Nov 2015, at 00:47, J McAfee via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Isles of the Hebides Project on FTDNA covers mainly Islay. > > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/isleofislay/about > > About (from the FTDNA project page): > > The Isles of the Hebrides DNA project was developed to see if we could find a pattern of migration throughout the Isles of Western Scotland -- The Hebrides.  We originally started with only the Isle of Islay in mind, however, the families of Islay moved about the Isles, so it was decided to expand the project to include all of the Isles of the Hebrides. > > Those joining must have either a direct paternal or maternal history of inhabiting one of the Isles of the Hebrides, and able to provide your ancestor's first and last name, approximate date of birth and/or death, and Isle of origin.  Keep in mind that mt-DNA is only passed on from mother to daughter, mother to daughter, all the way down the line.  Y-DNA is only passed on father to son all the way down the line -- although the son also carries his mother's mt-DNA, he cannot pass that mt-DNA on to his offspring. > > The more people joining this project, the more information and DNA tests we have to compare, link to, and find answers to many of our questions.  This is an opportunity to test your DNA and submit the results to determine any DNA links to the different surnames and Clans who made these Isles their home; and to help determine their migration patterns.  > > As you know, sometimes surnames were changed or lost, and this testing will tell you in great detail who you are most closely related to – and maybe not who you might have expected.  Patronymic naming systems were not always in place, resulting in people with the same surname not even being remotely related through DNA; and people with different surnames having very similar DNA – showing a close relationship.  Therefore, this Isles of the Hebrides Project may be of great help in furthering your genealogy search and in giving additional clues when your paper trail has come to an end. > > The Isles of the Hebrides Project includes Y-DNA (male) surname study; and a mitochondrial mt-DNA (maternal) study.  A male can be tested for both his Y-DNA and mt-DNA.  A female can only be tested for mt-DNA.  If you decide to join it will be important to go to your Personal Web Page and click on User Preferences and complete the Paternal/Maternal Side and Paternal/Maternal Origin, listing your Most Distant Ancestor, along with the Isle they called home. > > If you do not meet the criteria of this Project, then I am so very sorry, however, I encourage you to pursue other possibilities.  There are many other Projects you would qualify for. > > DNA research offers Family History researchers another tool to find a wealth of additional information about their ancestors who lived throughout the Isles. > > ________________________________________ > > From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of John McKinnon via [sct-islay@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM > To: 'Tricia Barnett'; sct-islay@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers > > Dear Listers > > I can only trace Islay McKinnon ancestors to 18th century and they're pretty > well confined to Kynagarry and Bowmore. They may well have come from Mull. > Quite a few Islay marriages to link McKinnon's with MacMillan (Tockmal), > Cameron, McCorquodale (Nosebridge), Spence (Bowmore), Brown (Bowmore) so > there are some genealogical links to the wider community. Eliane Scott is > the expert! > > I'm happy to go along with Trica's idea of a shared DNA listing.  I have had > an FTDNA account (F287689) test results for 111STR and Genographic & > Britainsdna SNPs. GEDmatch don't appear to have any interest in these tests > so I have an autosomal test on the way.  I've not the faintest idea what > X-DNA is all about. Hope to understand before I die. > > I have a public listing of my STR on Ysearch.org.  Happy to list on GEDmatch > when I have autosomal results. > Anybody with the knowledge and energy willing to set up an Islay project on > FTDNA? > > Where is best home for an Islay DNA list? > > John McKinnon > > > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/26/2015 03:51:32
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 95
    2. sinclair via
    3. > I am confused. There seem to be so many sites that offer DNA testing, many of them in USA which is no use to me as I live in Scotland. Susan > > >

    11/26/2015 01:44:35
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. J&K Herron via
    3. I am not all that familiar with the DNA programes mentioned etc, but I do know that I am the fourth in line to inherit a genetic abnormality which causes brain aneurysms. My father, his father, and his father, all died of similar conditions, my father was more easily recognised as the condition was not discovered until 1932. His step sister, and step brother also died of a brain condition. I read some information this afternoon, describing how the recessive inheritance can be carried, which is what mine is. However, one has to ask the question regarding the close relationships between many people in the 1800's. Cousins had children with cousins, and that has occurred in my instance, on Islay, and probably with many other families as well, given the size of the tenements and crofts, and the high number of births at the time. My g grandfather was the result of cousins, my grandfather was the result of cousins, my father was then the result of cousins. This surely would have an affect on the DNA linkages. My maternal lineage goes way back, and even then, women married brothers, sons married step mothers, step siblings, again cousins married cousins, so surely these relations would have some affect. Does anyone know the answers? Thanks Kris Herron -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary McCarthy via Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 5:34 PM To: J McAfee; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers So as my Islay ancestry comes from my mother's father, DNA comparison would not be able to cast light on that branch of my family? Mary McCarthy, Sent from my iPhone 07557668039 > On 25 Nov 2015, at 00:47, J McAfee via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Isles of the Hebides Project on FTDNA covers mainly Islay. > > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/isleofislay/about > > About (from the FTDNA project page): > > The Isles of the Hebrides DNA project was developed to see if we could find a pattern of migration throughout the Isles of Western Scotland -- The Hebrides. We originally started with only the Isle of Islay in mind, however, the families of Islay moved about the Isles, so it was decided to expand the project to include all of the Isles of the Hebrides. > > Those joining must have either a direct paternal or maternal history of inhabiting one of the Isles of the Hebrides, and able to provide your ancestor's first and last name, approximate date of birth and/or death, and Isle of origin. Keep in mind that mt-DNA is only passed on from mother to daughter, mother to daughter, all the way down the line. Y-DNA is only passed on father to son all the way down the line -- although the son also carries his mother's mt-DNA, he cannot pass that mt-DNA on to his offspring. > > The more people joining this project, the more information and DNA tests we have to compare, link to, and find answers to many of our questions. This is an opportunity to test your DNA and submit the results to determine any DNA links to the different surnames and Clans who made these Isles their home; and to help determine their migration patterns. > > As you know, sometimes surnames were changed or lost, and this testing will tell you in great detail who you are most closely related to and maybe not who you might have expected. Patronymic naming systems were not always in place, resulting in people with the same surname not even being remotely related through DNA; and people with different surnames having very similar DNA showing a close relationship. Therefore, this Isles of the Hebrides Project may be of great help in furthering your genealogy search and in giving additional clues when your paper trail has come to an end. > > The Isles of the Hebrides Project includes Y-DNA (male) surname study; and a mitochondrial mt-DNA (maternal) study. A male can be tested for both his Y-DNA and mt-DNA. A female can only be tested for mt-DNA. If you decide to join it will be important to go to your Personal Web Page and click on User Preferences and complete the Paternal/Maternal Side and Paternal/Maternal Origin, listing your Most Distant Ancestor, along with the Isle they called home. > > If you do not meet the criteria of this Project, then I am so very sorry, however, I encourage you to pursue other possibilities. There are many other Projects you would qualify for. > > DNA research offers Family History researchers another tool to find a wealth of additional information about their ancestors who lived throughout the Isles. > > ________________________________________ > > From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] > on behalf of John McKinnon via [sct-islay@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM > To: 'Tricia Barnett'; sct-islay@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers > > Dear Listers > > I can only trace Islay McKinnon ancestors to 18th century and they're > pretty well confined to Kynagarry and Bowmore. They may well have come from Mull. > Quite a few Islay marriages to link McKinnon's with MacMillan > (Tockmal), Cameron, McCorquodale (Nosebridge), Spence (Bowmore), Brown > (Bowmore) so there are some genealogical links to the wider community. > Eliane Scott is the expert! > > I'm happy to go along with Trica's idea of a shared DNA listing. I > have had an FTDNA account (F287689) test results for 111STR and > Genographic & Britainsdna SNPs. GEDmatch don't appear to have any > interest in these tests so I have an autosomal test on the way. I've > not the faintest idea what X-DNA is all about. Hope to understand before I die. > > I have a public listing of my STR on Ysearch.org. Happy to list on > GEDmatch when I have autosomal results. > Anybody with the knowledge and energy willing to set up an Islay > project on FTDNA? > > Where is best home for an Islay DNA list? > > John McKinnon > > > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/25/2015 11:19:37
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. J LOCHRIDGE via
    3. I don't understand the technicalities but one of the comparisons I made on GED Match tells you if your parents are related.  The result was mine weren't which I was happy about as my mother's actual ancestry was mostly Scottish and my father's mostly Irish.....so I knew that they weren't close geographically.This is very new to the masses and I can only assume like technology it will continue more popular as time goes on.  Nothing that I have been involved in has any medical conclusions.RegardsJohan From: J&K Herron via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: 'Mary McCarthy' <Ree1812@aol.com>; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2015, 8:19 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers I am not all that familiar with the DNA programes mentioned etc, but I do know that I am the fourth in line to inherit a genetic abnormality which causes brain aneurysms.  My father, his father, and his father, all died of similar conditions, my father was more easily recognised as the condition was not discovered until 1932. His step sister, and step brother also died of a brain condition. I read some information this afternoon, describing how the recessive inheritance can be carried, which is what mine is. However, one has to ask the question regarding the close relationships between many people in the 1800's.  Cousins had children with cousins, and that has occurred in my instance, on Islay, and probably with many other families as well, given the size of the tenements and crofts, and the high number of births at the time. My g grandfather was the result of cousins, my grandfather was the result of cousins, my father was then the result of cousins.  This surely would have an affect on the DNA linkages. My maternal lineage goes way back, and even then, women married brothers, sons married step mothers, step siblings, again cousins married cousins, so surely these relations would have some affect.    Does anyone know the answers?      Thanks  Kris Herron

    11/25/2015 09:06:00
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. John McKinnon via
    3. Dear Listers I can only trace Islay McKinnon ancestors to 18th century and they're pretty well confined to Kynagarry and Bowmore. They may well have come from Mull. Quite a few Islay marriages to link McKinnon's with MacMillan (Tockmal), Cameron, McCorquodale (Nosebridge), Spence (Bowmore), Brown (Bowmore) so there are some genealogical links to the wider community. Eliane Scott is the expert! I'm happy to go along with Trica's idea of a shared DNA listing. I have had an FTDNA account (F287689) test results for 111STR and Genographic & Britainsdna SNPs. GEDmatch don't appear to have any interest in these tests so I have an autosomal test on the way. I've not the faintest idea what X-DNA is all about. Hope to understand before I die. I have a public listing of my STR on Ysearch.org. Happy to list on GEDmatch when I have autosomal results. Anybody with the knowledge and energy willing to set up an Islay project on FTDNA? Where is best home for an Islay DNA list? John McKinnon

    11/25/2015 04:58:09
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. Mary McCarthy via
    3. So as my Islay ancestry comes from my mother's father, DNA comparison would not be able to cast light on that branch of my family? Mary McCarthy, Sent from my iPhone 07557668039 > On 25 Nov 2015, at 00:47, J McAfee via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Isles of the Hebides Project on FTDNA covers mainly Islay. > > https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/isleofislay/about > > About (from the FTDNA project page): > > The Isles of the Hebrides DNA project was developed to see if we could find a pattern of migration throughout the Isles of Western Scotland -- The Hebrides. We originally started with only the Isle of Islay in mind, however, the families of Islay moved about the Isles, so it was decided to expand the project to include all of the Isles of the Hebrides. > > Those joining must have either a direct paternal or maternal history of inhabiting one of the Isles of the Hebrides, and able to provide your ancestor's first and last name, approximate date of birth and/or death, and Isle of origin. Keep in mind that mt-DNA is only passed on from mother to daughter, mother to daughter, all the way down the line. Y-DNA is only passed on father to son all the way down the line -- although the son also carries his mother's mt-DNA, he cannot pass that mt-DNA on to his offspring. > > The more people joining this project, the more information and DNA tests we have to compare, link to, and find answers to many of our questions. This is an opportunity to test your DNA and submit the results to determine any DNA links to the different surnames and Clans who made these Isles their home; and to help determine their migration patterns. > > As you know, sometimes surnames were changed or lost, and this testing will tell you in great detail who you are most closely related to – and maybe not who you might have expected. Patronymic naming systems were not always in place, resulting in people with the same surname not even being remotely related through DNA; and people with different surnames having very similar DNA – showing a close relationship. Therefore, this Isles of the Hebrides Project may be of great help in furthering your genealogy search and in giving additional clues when your paper trail has come to an end. > > The Isles of the Hebrides Project includes Y-DNA (male) surname study; and a mitochondrial mt-DNA (maternal) study. A male can be tested for both his Y-DNA and mt-DNA. A female can only be tested for mt-DNA. If you decide to join it will be important to go to your Personal Web Page and click on User Preferences and complete the Paternal/Maternal Side and Paternal/Maternal Origin, listing your Most Distant Ancestor, along with the Isle they called home. > > If you do not meet the criteria of this Project, then I am so very sorry, however, I encourage you to pursue other possibilities. There are many other Projects you would qualify for. > > DNA research offers Family History researchers another tool to find a wealth of additional information about their ancestors who lived throughout the Isles. > > ________________________________________ > > From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of John McKinnon via [sct-islay@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM > To: 'Tricia Barnett'; sct-islay@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers > > Dear Listers > > I can only trace Islay McKinnon ancestors to 18th century and they're pretty > well confined to Kynagarry and Bowmore. They may well have come from Mull. > Quite a few Islay marriages to link McKinnon's with MacMillan (Tockmal), > Cameron, McCorquodale (Nosebridge), Spence (Bowmore), Brown (Bowmore) so > there are some genealogical links to the wider community. Eliane Scott is > the expert! > > I'm happy to go along with Trica's idea of a shared DNA listing. I have had > an FTDNA account (F287689) test results for 111STR and Genographic & > Britainsdna SNPs. GEDmatch don't appear to have any interest in these tests > so I have an autosomal test on the way. I've not the faintest idea what > X-DNA is all about. Hope to understand before I die. > > I have a public listing of my STR on Ysearch.org. Happy to list on GEDmatch > when I have autosomal results. > Anybody with the knowledge and energy willing to set up an Islay project on > FTDNA? > > Where is best home for an Islay DNA list? > > John McKinnon > > > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/25/2015 12:34:02
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. J McAfee via
    3. Isles of the Hebides Project on FTDNA covers mainly Islay. https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/isleofislay/about About (from the FTDNA project page): The Isles of the Hebrides DNA project was developed to see if we could find a pattern of migration throughout the Isles of Western Scotland -- The Hebrides. We originally started with only the Isle of Islay in mind, however, the families of Islay moved about the Isles, so it was decided to expand the project to include all of the Isles of the Hebrides. Those joining must have either a direct paternal or maternal history of inhabiting one of the Isles of the Hebrides, and able to provide your ancestor's first and last name, approximate date of birth and/or death, and Isle of origin. Keep in mind that mt-DNA is only passed on from mother to daughter, mother to daughter, all the way down the line. Y-DNA is only passed on father to son all the way down the line -- although the son also carries his mother's mt-DNA, he cannot pass that mt-DNA on to his offspring. The more people joining this project, the more information and DNA tests we have to compare, link to, and find answers to many of our questions. This is an opportunity to test your DNA and submit the results to determine any DNA links to the different surnames and Clans who made these Isles their home; and to help determine their migration patterns. As you know, sometimes surnames were changed or lost, and this testing will tell you in great detail who you are most closely related to – and maybe not who you might have expected. Patronymic naming systems were not always in place, resulting in people with the same surname not even being remotely related through DNA; and people with different surnames having very similar DNA – showing a close relationship. Therefore, this Isles of the Hebrides Project may be of great help in furthering your genealogy search and in giving additional clues when your paper trail has come to an end. The Isles of the Hebrides Project includes Y-DNA (male) surname study; and a mitochondrial mt-DNA (maternal) study. A male can be tested for both his Y-DNA and mt-DNA. A female can only be tested for mt-DNA. If you decide to join it will be important to go to your Personal Web Page and click on User Preferences and complete the Paternal/Maternal Side and Paternal/Maternal Origin, listing your Most Distant Ancestor, along with the Isle they called home. If you do not meet the criteria of this Project, then I am so very sorry, however, I encourage you to pursue other possibilities. There are many other Projects you would qualify for. DNA research offers Family History researchers another tool to find a wealth of additional information about their ancestors who lived throughout the Isles. ________________________________________ From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of John McKinnon via [sct-islay@rootsweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:58 PM To: 'Tricia Barnett'; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers Dear Listers I can only trace Islay McKinnon ancestors to 18th century and they're pretty well confined to Kynagarry and Bowmore. They may well have come from Mull. Quite a few Islay marriages to link McKinnon's with MacMillan (Tockmal), Cameron, McCorquodale (Nosebridge), Spence (Bowmore), Brown (Bowmore) so there are some genealogical links to the wider community. Eliane Scott is the expert! I'm happy to go along with Trica's idea of a shared DNA listing. I have had an FTDNA account (F287689) test results for 111STR and Genographic & Britainsdna SNPs. GEDmatch don't appear to have any interest in these tests so I have an autosomal test on the way. I've not the faintest idea what X-DNA is all about. Hope to understand before I die. I have a public listing of my STR on Ysearch.org. Happy to list on GEDmatch when I have autosomal results. Anybody with the knowledge and energy willing to set up an Islay project on FTDNA? Where is best home for an Islay DNA list? John McKinnon ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/24/2015 05:47:31
    1. [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. Tricia Barnett via
    3. Further to recent DNA posts and the fact that those tested with Ancestry.com can currently upload results FREE to familytreedna I have heard from some people that it was in fact an easy upload. All you have to do is register and set a password. https://www.familytreedna.com/AutosomalTransfer Anyone with 23and me results can also upload to familytreedna. Also of course any of the above can also upload free to gedmatch.com then compare with all. I wonder too if we perhaps add to this email (or start another) any of our test ref - Any comments welcome. ( I am on two private facebook pages where we share gedmatch refs) Tricia Name Tested Also uploaded Tricia More Barnett Familytreedna Gedmatch numbers I manage: M032641 F198755 F283910 F305358 F305360 Johan Lochridge Ancestry Gedmatch A768704

    11/24/2015 11:58:36
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA comparison with different testers
    2. Bob Mitchell via
    3. My understanding that as a male your X DNA is inherited through your mothers X chromosome, from her father's X chromosome, from his mother's X, and from her father's X so on. This differentiates the inheritance of X from the inheritance of MtDNA which comes from your mother's mother's, mother etc. Bob On 24 November 2015 at 14:58, John McKinnon via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Dear Listers > > I can only trace Islay McKinnon ancestors to 18th century and they're > pretty > well confined to Kynagarry and Bowmore. They may well have come from Mull. > Quite a few Islay marriages to link McKinnon's with MacMillan (Tockmal), > Cameron, McCorquodale (Nosebridge), Spence (Bowmore), Brown (Bowmore) so > there are some genealogical links to the wider community. Eliane Scott is > the expert! > > I'm happy to go along with Trica's idea of a shared DNA listing. I have > had > an FTDNA account (F287689) test results for 111STR and Genographic & > Britainsdna SNPs. GEDmatch don't appear to have any interest in these tests > so I have an autosomal test on the way. I've not the faintest idea what > X-DNA is all about. Hope to understand before I die. > > I have a public listing of my STR on Ysearch.org. Happy to list on > GEDmatch > when I have autosomal results. > Anybody with the knowledge and energy willing to set up an Islay project on > FTDNA? > > Where is best home for an Islay DNA list? > > John McKinnon > > > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *The best part about genealogy is searching for ancestors and finding friends. *

    11/24/2015 08:54:25
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA results
    2. Tricia Barnett via
    3. Hi Johan Should be easy to upload to familytreedna. Just need to register with email and password. I did it years back when I had tested only with 23andme. It cost me then a few pounds (was not free then) but it has been great. I have since tested with familytreedna and also my brother husband and sons as per gedmatch numbers below. Tricia ############## Thanks Tricia, I will try to upload familytreedna...if I can! Any help is appreciated. More info from Lorna would be good. Regards Johan ######################### From: Tricia Barnett <tricia.barnett@bt internet.com> Hi Johan Nice to know you. Gedmatch: I ran yours A768704 against mine M032641 (I manage 5 family members) and you don't match to any of mine. However You show matches to 3 people who are managed by my friend Lorna. I have emailed her - more on that direct as not Islay family. Also you have Angus McIsaac - I am 4.6 but don't know where we link. He is also on familytreedna. Let me know if you decide to upload to familytreedna. As I said it is FREE just now but I guess after Xmas they could charge again. My link to Islay is McEachern(McKechnie) MacDougall Cameron Campbell. I have a very close match dna to Ian Mitchell who also has Islay but we just can't find a link there. Tricia. Born a MORE in Caithness Scotland My Gedmatch numbers I manage : M032641 F198755 F283910 F305358 F305360 ############################# From: J LOCHRIDGE [mailto:j.lochridge@btinternet.com] Sent: 23 November 2015 17:40 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA results Hello Tricia, my Gedmatch No is A768704. Maybe we will find a connection. Regards Johan ps were you able to find how Scottish you are from GEDmatch. Other people seemed to manage to get it, but I can't figure out what I have to

    11/23/2015 01:50:42
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA results
    2. Tricia Barnett via
    3. For those tested familyfinder DNA with Ancestry.com you can now upload FREE to familytreedna.com then of course you can compare with many others. https://www.familytreedna.com/AutosomalTransfer . You can also upload to Gedmatch.com I am on familytreedna.com and also gedmatch.com . Happy to share kit numbers. I do have DNA matches to someone who also has Islay family. Tricia

    11/23/2015 10:33:01