Hi, It is nice to see so much activity on the Islay site lately. I was wondering if anyone had come across the name McBrayne being interchanged with McGillivray in their research? In my research to find John McGillivray and Jane Dallas first found on the 1841 census in Greenock I had some local research done on Islay and around Lochgilphead. No convincing sign of the family was found before 1841 except for Jane Dallas of Killarow Islay b. 1806 daughter of John Dallas and Janet McGilvera who may be the wife. She was born on Islay in 1806 according to her Ontario death registration. The local researcher had seen the name McGilvary and McBrayne interchanged in another project she did and passed on a similar possibility for my information which I have attached below. I have not been able to discount this possibly with further work and on the 1841 census they did have a Sarah McBryan living with them in Greenock. When I was searching for records of your McGilvray family - I did an IGI search and was very surprised to come across a similar anomaly: Marriage: December 1833 in Kilmacolm, Renfrew "John McBryne and Jane Dolas". Birth/Baptism of child "Jean Mcbrayne" 26 January 1835 in North Knapdale, Argyll, to "John Mcbrayne and Jean Dallace". Of course, this could just be the strangest co-incidence, but it does (vaguely) match with your family. I have no explanation as to why both surnames were used (in my previous research). If anyone has been researching McBrayne or seen McBrayne and McGillivray interchanged it would be great to know. Also if anyone is researching Dallas and knows anything more about Jane Dallas and her family it would be most helpful. Regards, John McGilvary Calgary

Congrats Toni on birth of your beautiful little granddaughter. Islay lives on. Sent from my Samsung device

Correction YSEQ DNA is: http:www.yseq.net strs instead of stars (autocorrect error). ________________________________________ From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of J McAfee via [sct-islay@rootsweb.com] Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 3:43 PM To: sinclair; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA and Isla For Ydna (males) the best company probably is: http://www.familytreedna.com Tests up to Y-111 SNPs/stars or the Big Y. ScotlandsDNA is good too: http:www.scotlandsdna.com YSEQ DNA for individual and panel testing of YDNA http://www.yseqdna.com GENO2.0 at National Geographic Project: https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com AncestryDNA.com is just for autosomal DNA testing. You will probably have better testing results by testing a male's YDNA from your family line With FamilyTreeDNA (FTDNA) and there is more testers to compare with also. The largest Ancestral DNA testing company. Jay ________________________________________ From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of sinclair via [sct-islay@rootsweb.com] Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 2:22 AM To: SCT-ISLAY@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA and Isla Congratulations Toni We have an Isla, now aged 8. On the another topic I am finding it difficult to decide which DNAS test to try. We are in UK and many of then are in USA. Any suggestions Susan ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Toni Congratulations Grandma. And, she is called Isla! What a grand old name, and a very appropriate posting to this list. Welcome, wee Isla. Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toni via" <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: "Islay" <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 5:35:08 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit! That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! Toni ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For Ydna (males) the best company probably is: http://www.familytreedna.com Tests up to Y-111 SNPs/stars or the Big Y. ScotlandsDNA is good too: http:www.scotlandsdna.com YSEQ DNA for individual and panel testing of YDNA http://www.yseqdna.com GENO2.0 at National Geographic Project: https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com AncestryDNA.com is just for autosomal DNA testing. You will probably have better testing results by testing a male's YDNA from your family line With FamilyTreeDNA (FTDNA) and there is more testers to compare with also. The largest Ancestral DNA testing company. Jay ________________________________________ From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] on behalf of sinclair via [sct-islay@rootsweb.com] Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 2:22 AM To: SCT-ISLAY@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA and Isla Congratulations Toni We have an Isla, now aged 8. On the another topic I am finding it difficult to decide which DNAS test to try. We are in UK and many of then are in USA. Any suggestions Susan ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I suspect that the name "Isla" may well have become popular in Scotland after a few famous people popped up with that name, and I think those people were probably named after the River Isla, a tributary of the Tay that runs through Angus and Perthshire in eastern Scotland. Scots intending it to refer to the island would probably tend to leave the "y" on the end. On Islay itself, the name Islay tended to be a boy's name rather than a girl's, but my daughter still chose the name - with a "y" - for one of her girls. On her first visit to the island she was to be heard proudly telling everyone, friend, relative or stranger, that she was on Islay and she was called Islay. It made it easy to buy her apparently personalised T-shirts, available in just about every gift shop on the island. -----Original Message----- From: Toni via Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 6:26 PM To: Jim BAIRD ; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] SCT-ISLAY Well, Jim, I'm just delighted by the fact that many generations away from our beloved Islay, our children still want to honour their heritage by naming their children after their ancestors' homeland. My daughter-in-law found out that "Isla" is in the top 10 names for girls in Scotland, although not so common here. I still can't wipe the smile off my face :-) Toni ________________________________________ From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com <sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Jim BAIRD via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: November 27, 2015 8:23 AM To: Islay List Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] SCT-ISLAY Congratulations Toni,If you Canadians keep producing at this rate there will soon be more Ileachs in Ontario than on Islay!All the bestJim ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Should it be www.familytreedna.com ? From: Tricia Barnett via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: 'sinclair' <sinclair@sinclair.plus.com>; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 27 November 2015, 12:32 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA and Isla I am in UK http://www.familytreedna.co.uk/ is used very successfully by many UK folks

Well, Jim, I'm just delighted by the fact that many generations away from our beloved Islay, our children still want to honour their heritage by naming their children after their ancestors' homeland. My daughter-in-law found out that "Isla" is in the top 10 names for girls in Scotland, although not so common here. I still can't wipe the smile off my face :-) Toni ________________________________________ From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com <sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Jim BAIRD via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: November 27, 2015 8:23 AM To: Islay List Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] SCT-ISLAY Congratulations Toni,If you Canadians keep producing at this rate there will soon be more Ileachs in Ontario than on Islay!All the bestJim

Tricia, I've tried your links, but it reads "moved to "here", and then clicking on that, nothing happens. Is there another address? Toni ________________________________________ From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com <sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Tricia Barnett via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: November 27, 2015 12:32 PM To: 'sinclair'; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA and Isla I am in UK http://www.familytreedna.co.uk/ is used very successfully by many UK folks ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Congratulations Toni,If you Canadians keep producing at this rate there will soon be more Ileachs in Ontario than on Islay!All the bestJim Message: 3Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 01:35:08 +0000From: Toni <ToniSinclair@hotmail.com>Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topicTo: Islay <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com>Message-ID:<BLUPR16MB0514365E667CFE637E1200E3D2030@BLUPR16MB0514.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit!That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA!Toni------------------------------

What a lovely story; congratulations. I named my daughter Isla in 1983 and in 2014 she has named her own daughter Chloe Isla; making me very proud. Isla and Isla On 27/11/2015 14:13, Malcolm Campbell via wrote: > Dear Toni > > Congratulations. Always space such important Ileach news. > > Isla is such an appropriate moniker. > > She will wear it proudly and have a tale to tell her whole life. > > Introducing her and her brother to the home land will be a grand adventure. > > My best, > > Malcolm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Toni via > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:35 PM > To: Islay > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic > > I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share > this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost > 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! > Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. > We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit! > > > That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! > > Toni > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. > Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am in UK http://www.familytreedna.co.uk/ is used very successfully by many UK folks

After a lifetime of many, many pronunciations of my name Islay I now am told by the baby generation that it has become 'popular' and everyone seems to know it without the 'Y' . Many a story I have told about the place where my ancestors left in 1833. I have been 2 times and was especially nice when all knew how to say it!! Islay McMillan Perkins Canada

I am not posting this to suggest that anyone should choose this DNA Offer, just posting the link in case anyone is thinking about it.   http://home.ancestry.co.uk/?o_xid=68578&o_lid=68578&o_sch=Email%20-%20Campaigns I have enjoyed the increased number of postings recently, and as I have a current subscription to Ancestry, I am happy to do Look-ups for anyone.RegardsJohan

Congratulations Toni We have an Isla, now aged 8. On the another topic I am finding it difficult to decide which DNAS test to try. We are in UK and many of then are in USA. Any suggestions Susan

congratulations We also have a grandaughter named Islay Hope she will get to Islay someday too B * Cam McMillan -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 12:00 AM To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 98 If replying with quote to a digest message, quote =ONLY= the relevant portion of the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. ALSO: change the subject of your reply to match the message subject to which you are replying. Failure to follow these guidelines may result in your reply being rejected. Today's Topics: 1. Re: slightly off topic (Janis Eaglesham) 2. Re: slightly off topic (goeusl@aol.com) 3. Re: slightly off topic (goeusl@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:45:42 -0800 From: Janis Eaglesham <pavanagem@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic To: Toni <ToniSinclair@hotmail.com>, sct-islay@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAK9WjvfkraRka9kmv7H-e3PusqOrkuHqNFsZq0bpOc=2SqMEGQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Congratulations! On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Toni via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to > share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy > (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about > bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, > Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on > our next visit! > > > That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! > > Toni > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor > netiquette. Please don't do it. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Janis http://janiseaglesham.com/ http://ginarubinart.com www.stavefallsartistgroup.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:48:08 -0500 From: goeusl@aol.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic To: ToniSinclair@hotmail.com, sct-islay@rootsweb.com, SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <15146a0486f-3fa-6dab@webprd-m86.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Toni: Congratulations on the arrival of Isla! Anne And speaking of DNA I've done two tests: one with familytreedna last year and more recently with ancestry I have a match with my third cousin on the Lamont side ( from Islay) We are both descended from Coll Lamont (1786-1861) and Mary Currie ( 1794-1877) ---- Original Message ---- From: Toni via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: Islay <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Nov 26, 2015 8:36 pm Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit! That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! Toni ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:48:08 -0500 From: goeusl@aol.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic To: ToniSinclair@hotmail.com, sct-islay@rootsweb.com, SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <15146a0486f-3fa-6dab@webprd-m86.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Toni: Congratulations on the arrival of Isla! Anne And speaking of DNA I've done two tests: one with familytreedna last year and more recently with ancestry I have a match with my third cousin on the Lamont side ( from Islay) We are both descended from Coll Lamont (1786-1861) and Mary Currie ( 1794-1877) ---- Original Message ---- From: Toni via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: Islay <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Nov 26, 2015 8:36 pm Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit! That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! Toni ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. 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I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit! That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! Toni

Dear Toni Congratulations. Always space such important Ileach news. Isla is such an appropriate moniker. She will wear it proudly and have a tale to tell her whole life. Introducing her and her brother to the home land will be a grand adventure. My best, Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: Toni via Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 8:35 PM To: Islay Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit! That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! Toni ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary You say you have McKay from far North Have you some data. I have and know several with Caithness Sutherland McKay Tricia

Hi Toni: Congratulations on the arrival of Isla! Anne And speaking of DNA I've done two tests: one with familytreedna last year and more recently with ancestry I have a match with my third cousin on the Lamont side ( from Islay) We are both descended from Coll Lamont (1786-1861) and Mary Currie ( 1794-1877) ---- Original Message ---- From: Toni via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: Islay <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Nov 26, 2015 8:36 pm Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit! That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA! Toni ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message