Hi Mary, I have looked at my data : and that Hugh & your Neil were related somehow is a reasonable assumption but just how I am unable to say. Regards Roger -----Original Message----- From: Mary MacKay Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 11:51 PM To: Roger ; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Historical Background to Laggan Farm Roger I read with interest your Historical Background to Laggan Farm. Our MacKay/ McKay ancestor is Neil McKay (born abt 1758- died August 2, 1825) tenant of Dluich1791-1792 and Nosbridge 1811-1828 1836 ( last two dates must be son) 1) Is there a similar history for either of these farms? 2) How can I find out if the Hugh McKay mentioned several times in your article is the father of our Neil? Mary MacKay Ontario, Canada

Thank you Roger,Mr Dunlop you mention as Farmer in 1889 was nephew and son-in-law of Hugh Stevenson.RegardsJohan From: Roger via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016, 12:40 Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Historical Background to Laggan Farm Hi Johan Lochridge, Tricia Barnett and Janet Farmer, I am sending this as you all have expressed interest in this Farm, it is an extract from the ICD, hope it is of use. Regards Roger - LAGGAN = Calf goddess or hollow of the lochs NGR – 2853/5559 -

Roger I read with interest your Historical Background to Laggan Farm. Our MacKay/ McKay ancestor is Neil McKay (born abt 1758- died August 2, 1825) tenant of Dluich1791-1792 and Nosbridge 1811-1828 1836 ( last two dates must be son) 1) Is there a similar history for either of these farms? 2) How can I find out if the Hugh McKay mentioned several times in your article is the father of our Neil? Mary MacKay Ontario, Canada

Hi Johan Lochridge, Tricia Barnett and Janet Farmer, I am sending this as you all have expressed interest in this Farm, it is an extract from the ICD, hope it is of use. Regards Roger - LAGGAN = Calf goddess or hollow of the lochs NGR – 2853/5559 - Laggan-Lochan, [Hollow of the Lochs]. Loch-laggan, a sinusfity upon side of Loch-in-daal. The rocks in this tract, are composed of micaceous shistus, and the general appearance of the country, to th extremity of the island, where it is terminated by the lofty Mull of Kinhouth, announce a fimilarity of compofition. (Jameson). Authorities on Place name : Reverend J McGillchrist, Bowmore - Mr Archibald Carmichael, Labourer, Laggan - Mr Black, Tenant, Cruach (R Hawkins. S.R.E.) - Applies to a large dwelling house with barns, out-offices and garden attached situated a short distance East of Lagan point and a short distance North of Port Ghillebride (B of N 40/p137) Laggan is Gaelic for a small hollow. There are two in Islay. Gaelic generic term in Islay Names 'lag'. (Islay Place Names Captain F.W.L. Thomas, R.N., F.SA. Scot.1822). 1509 Rental of Lagane 33s 04d. 1541 Rental of Laggan to Gilpatrik Bryon 2 1/2 mark 1614 Rental for Laggane, Dowawch, Ardlaurauch, Corrare & Ilanynmusk 40/-, 16 Marts, 16 Wethers, 120 Cheese, 120 Oatmeal, 16 Geese, 16 Hens. Together with the fishings of Laggane. 1618 There were a number of the Clan Breghoun living in and around Laggan. 1654 Rental of Laggan, Keilchallimkeill, Torra, Duwaches to Jon Dallas Silver duty £118-6, beir/meill - 4 bolls. 1686 Rental of Laggan, Keilchalumkeill and Torra to Donald Campbell Set to - £146 13s 4d Wethers 1, Geese 4, Hens 4 - 4 dozen eggs, Sheip 2, Lambis 2, Buttir 1 gallon, Stirkis 1, Beir & Meill 3 bolls. Salmon fishing of the water of Laggain sett to. Donald Campbell and pays £20. 1719 Purchase of timber and house lately possessed by Lagganlochan, standing on the lands of Knockans, conforme to bill for comprismt thereof £53, the article of the comprized house is paid to Lagganlochan by Mr Anderson, then collector and a discharge yrof to all concerned, grantd the date of 10th December. (Stent Book p1). 1722 Rental of Laggan & Torra £166. 13s. 04d. Extent £2 18s 4d 7 lourheis, Cows 60, Horses 16, Corn 50, Barley 8. (Laggan is down of the rent, and is more pleasant than profitable, includes fishing of salmond on the water (dounfall of rent is £41.0s.0d). 1733 Rental of Laggan & Torro to Ferquhard Campbell 3 quarter & 18 part land Old Rent £206 04s 00d, New Rent £236 04s 00d, Gressum Sterling £21 00s 00d, New Rent Sterling £19 13s 08d. 1741 Rental 3/18th parts of Lagan and Torra £20. 16s. 00d. To Farquhard Campbell. 1745 July 8th Reported that there are a great deal of thefts committed in this countrie and Hugh McKay & the tennents of Corrary to search twice a week Ardlarch, Laggan, Duich, Corrary Island & Curiloch. That they are to secure every person in whose family or possession stolen goods are found and commit them to Kilarrow Prison and secure all their effects and tha they call for assistants and such as refuse to report the same, who are to be fyned in £10 for each refusal and deemed dishonest. Signed by Duncan Campbell at Shinderline. 1749 McDougall Survey of Laggan 282 arable acres, 100 green pasture acres, 500 heathy pasture acres. 1751 With respect to the reparation of the roads this year its ordained that Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday next shall be the days on which the roads of the Country are to be wroght on. The Water of Laggan under the inspection of Jas Robertson, Duncan McIntyre, Hugh McKay & Doctr Ffrazer. (Stent Book p41). 1770c There is a mention of a house and croft for the Salmon Fisher at Laggan to be marked out in terms of the Missive to Hugh MacKay. 1779 Rental of Laggan to Hugh MacKay Tacksman of Laggan, a House and Croft were to be built for the Salmon fisher at Lagan 1780 Rental £152 00s 00d of Laggan, Duich, Strathnaboddach, Ardimersy and Half Grobals to Hugh MacKay. 1799 Rental £175 00s 00d of Laggan, Duich & Ar to Alexander McKay. No claim of grazing on Knock & Ardelister. 1799 Rental £8 00s 00d Fishing of Lagan to George Kilpatrick, and Logan's House. 1799 Rental £132 01s 07 1/2d of Bow more includes Mrs McKay £2 00s 00d Laggan acres. 1811 Rental of Laggan to Major Alexander McKay. 1811 Rental of Laggan Fishing to George Kilpatrick. 1812 Dugald McGregor Overseer resident at Laggan. 1828 Rental of Leagin to Colin McLean. 1841 Census registers 9 families resident/houses occupied at Laggan. Colin McLean the farmer. 1848 Rental of Laggan and Duich etc to Colin M'Lean 1838 for 19 years till 1857 at £174.19s.0d. 1851 Census registers 8 families resident at Laggan. Farmer Colin MacLean 750 acres employs 13 labourers. 1876-7 Rental of Laggan to Hugh Stevenson £269 2s. No8734.stock - Ayrshire cattle and Cheviot sheep. 1876-7 Rental of Laggan fishings to Lachlan M'Lean £25. No 8739. 1878 Mr Archibald Carmichael, Labourer, Laggan listed as an authority to the Ordnance Survey. 1878 – Land Owner - John Ramsay Esq of Kildalton 1889 John Dunlop, tenant Farmer, Alexander McKay, Gamekeeper, Hector McKelvie, Dairyman, Angus McIndeor, Archibald McDougall, Ploughmen, Duncan Logan, Labourer, James Campbell, Farm servant, Neil McNair, Watchman, Laggan. (Register of voters for the County of Argyll 1889-90). 1905 Rental of House & Farm Laggan to Robert Wallace 1,230 acres at £208. 74 cattle, 11 horses, 167 sheep on a 15 year lease. 1914 Rental of House & Farm Laggan to Robert Wallace £205, 4 houses 3 at £5 and 1 at £4 10s. 1924 Malcolm McTaggart registered rental of a House and tenant of the Farm of Laggan, owner Iain Ramsay of Kildalton. The lands of Laggan were given to the Brehons (Breitheimh = Judge) by the Lords of the Isles as fee for their services as hereditary Judges. The court of the Brehons of Islay was in a sense the Supreme Court of the Isles, by which appeals of special importance could be heard. They held their court on a small knoll, topped by a low stone-and-turf wall, where the judge, the accuser and the accused stood close together, easily seen and heard by all members of the Clan who wished to be present. (The House of Islay p22) The Lords or the Isles had a house and chapel at 'Laganon' on the South side of Loch-an-Daal (Penant p260). Whin still grows on the top of the ditches around Laggan and on the Turf Dykes which separate the Bowmore Crofts. The Whin seed was sent from Woodhall for the purpose of sowing upon the tops of the ditches round the Laggan & little parks -1781. Is one of the historical spots of Islay. Here lived for years in affluence and honour a well known county family, the MacKays, lineal descendants of Mackay of the Rhinns, the capable lieutenant of MacDonald of Islay. Hugh MacKay, of Laggan, (Aodh an Lagain as he was fondly called) had on lease extensive tracts of land embracing Bowmore, Duich, Torra, Gleneigedale and Machrie. Some of these lands Hugh Mackay sub-let to tenants who lived on them in comfort and contentment. 'Aodh an Lagain' [Hugh of Laggan] as he was fondly called, had two celebrated sons, one of them a major in the army, and the other a learned lawyer. The major was the last male representative of MacKay of the Rhinns. After him Captain Colin MacLean became tenant of Laggan and Duich. He was married to Margaret MacNeill, a sister of the late Rev. Hector MacNeill of Campbeltown, Argyleshire. Upon a plateau near Laggan farmhouse there was within our own recollection a sheet of fresh water of considerable size called 'LOCHAN NA CRANNAIG, [Loch of the Crannog]. This Crannog was an ancient lake-dwelling. Beside this loch lived the hero of Thomas Patison's 'Pious Labourer.The site of the Crannog 'near Laggan Farmhouse'. Another loch on this farm is named 'Loch nan Corra - Ghriodhach' [loch of the Herons]. (Rev JG MacNeill 1900 Guide p60). Some years ago a new tenenat of Laggan turned, by drainage and tillage this Loch of the Crannog into a fertile spot. The burgh of Laggan was the early forerunner of planned villages in the Kildalton parish, a burgh or barony which Sir John Campbell of Cawdor had been empowered to establish in 1614. Described in a rental of 1722 as 'more pleasant than profitable', it never seems to have flourished nor has it bequeathed any tangible remains (Pryde, Burghs, 66 No295; Islay Book 206,(230), 527). There are rocks known locally as the 'sinker rocks', traditions says a Spanish ship hit these rocks and sank the bodies being buried at Laggan. There is also a tradition that Laggan House is haunted by a Spanish Lady. Archaeology : NMRS Site:NR 25 NE 17 : Computer No: 76232 : Type of Site: Laggan/ Burgh : Collection Summ : Photos 0 : Draws 0 : Ms 0 : Other 0 : Archaeology Notes - Laggan or Islay licensed as burgh of barony 1614. (G S Pryde 1965).

Hi, I just deleted the last Digest re McQueen's coming to Ontario in the 1830's. If someone could send it to me I would really like to have the information about the travel to Ontario. I was trying to delete so I was only replying to the 2nd item and then lost everything. I wanted to share the following that is something I found when my father's ancestors came to little York. my e-mail is esp20092009@live.comThanks, Ellen Taken from History of Toronto and County of York, volume 2 https://archive.org/stream/historyyork02unknuoft#page/330/mode/1up p. 330 This is a description of how the journey was in 1831 for William Bowes. They landed in Quebec, the journey from there to Montreal being made by steamboat. From the latter city to Brockville they journeyed by Durham boats, and the remainder of the trip to little York by schooner. > From: sct-islay-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 99> To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 11:26:26 -0700> > > > > If replying with quote to a digest message, quote =ONLY= the relevant portion of the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. ALSO: change the subject of your reply to match the message subject to which you are replying. Failure to follow these guidelines may result in your reply being rejected.> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. DNA and Isla (sinclair@sinclair.plus.com)> 2. SCT-ISLAY (Jim BAIRD)> 3. Re: SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 98 (Cam and Barb McMillan)> 4. Ancestry DNA Offer (J LOCHRIDGE)> 5. Re: DNA and Isla (Tricia Barnett)> 6. Re: DNA and Isla (Toni)> 7. Re: SCT-ISLAY (Toni)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:22:35 -0000> From: sinclair@sinclair.plus.com> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA and Isla> To: SCT-ISLAY@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:> <9f529b98e64859e3a146c4a520d9ac9a.squirrel@webmail.plus.net>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1> > Congratulations Toni> We have an Isla, now aged 8.> On the another topic> I am finding it difficult to decide which DNAS test to try. We are in UK> and many of then are in USA.> Any suggestions> Susan> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:23:08 +0800> From: Jim BAIRD <jbaird@hotmail.com>> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] SCT-ISLAY> To: Islay List <sct-islay-l@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <BAY181-W78BBB34A1423B240589BCAD9030@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Congratulations Toni,If you Canadians keep producing at this rate there will soon be more Ileachs in Ontario than on Islay!All the bestJim> Message: 3Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 01:35:08 +0000From: Toni <ToniSinclair@hotmail.com>Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topicTo: Islay <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com>Message-ID:<BLUPR16MB0514365E667CFE637E1200E3D2030@BLUPR16MB0514.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit!That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA!Toni------------------------------ > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 01:47:03 -0800> From: "Cam and Barb McMillan" <canbarb@telus.net>> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 98> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <B58B1B49F0464A75BA23BA724B482B4A@OwnerPC>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > congratulations> We also have a grandaughter named Islay> Hope she will get to Islay someday too> B * Cam McMillan> > -----Original Message----- > From: sct-islay-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 12:00 AM> To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Subject: SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 98> > > > > If replying with quote to a digest message, quote =ONLY= the relevant > portion of the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest > of the digest from your reply. ALSO: change the subject of your reply to > match the message subject to which you are replying. Failure to follow these > guidelines may result in your reply being rejected.> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: slightly off topic (Janis Eaglesham)> 2. Re: slightly off topic (goeusl@aol.com)> 3. Re: slightly off topic (goeusl@aol.com)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 17:45:42 -0800> From: Janis Eaglesham <pavanagem@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic> To: Toni <ToniSinclair@hotmail.com>, sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:> <CAK9WjvfkraRka9kmv7H-e3PusqOrkuHqNFsZq0bpOc=2SqMEGQ@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8> > Congratulations!> > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Toni via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> wrote:> > > I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to> > share this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy> > (almost 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about> > bursting! Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township,> > Ontario in 1842. We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on> > our next visit!> >> >> > That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA!> >> > Toni> >> > -------------------------------> >> > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor> > netiquette. Please don't do it.> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> > > > -- > > > Janis> > http://janiseaglesham.com/> http://ginarubinart.com> www.stavefallsartistgroup.com> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:48:08 -0500> From: goeusl@aol.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic> To: ToniSinclair@hotmail.com, sct-islay@rootsweb.com,> SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <15146a0486f-3fa-6dab@webprd-m86.mail.aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8> > > Hi Toni:> > > Congratulations on the arrival of Isla!> > > Anne> > > And speaking of DNA I've done two tests: one with familytreedna last year > and more recently with ancestry> > > I have a match with my third cousin on the Lamont side ( from Islay)> We are both descended from Coll Lamont (1786-1861) and Mary Currie ( > 1794-1877)> > > > ---- Original Message ----> From: Toni via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com>> To: Islay <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thu, Nov 26, 2015 8:36 pm> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic> > I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share > this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost > 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! > Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. > We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit!> > > That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA!> > Toni> > -------------------------------> > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. > Please don't do it.> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 20:48:08 -0500> From: goeusl@aol.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic> To: ToniSinclair@hotmail.com, sct-islay@rootsweb.com,> SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <15146a0486f-3fa-6dab@webprd-m86.mail.aol.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8> > > Hi Toni:> > > Congratulations on the arrival of Isla!> > > Anne> > > And speaking of DNA I've done two tests: one with familytreedna last year > and more recently with ancestry> > > I have a match with my third cousin on the Lamont side ( from Islay)> We are both descended from Coll Lamont (1786-1861) and Mary Currie ( > 1794-1877)> > > > ---- Original Message ----> From: Toni via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com>> To: Islay <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thu, Nov 26, 2015 8:36 pm> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] slightly off topic> > I know this is supposed to be about our Islay news, but I just have to share > this - our second grandchild was born last night. A lovely healthy (almost > 10 lbs!) girl, and her name is "Isla". My heart is just about bursting! > Her 4X great grandparents immigrated to Fenelon township, Ontario in 1842. > We'll bring her, and her big brother, back to Islay on our next visit!> > > That's all. Now back to our interesting topic of DNA!> > Toni> > -------------------------------> > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. > Please don't do it.> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the SCT-ISLAY list administrator, send an email to> SCT-ISLAY-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the SCT-ISLAY mailing list, send an email to > SCT-ISLAY@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 98> ***************************************** > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 10:23:38 +0000 (UTC)> From: J LOCHRIDGE <j.lochridge@btinternet.com>> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Ancestry DNA Offer> To: "sct-islay@rootsweb.com" <sct-islay@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID:> <688755337.18755575.1448619818908.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8> > I am not posting this to suggest that anyone should choose this DNA Offer, just posting the link in case anyone is thinking about it. ?> http://home.ancestry.co.uk/?o_xid=68578&o_lid=68578&o_sch=Email%20-%20Campaigns> > I have enjoyed the increased number of postings recently, and as I have a current subscription to Ancestry, I am happy to do Look-ups for anyone.RegardsJohan> > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 12:32:55 -0000> From: "Tricia Barnett" <tricia.barnett@btinternet.com>> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA and Isla> To: "'sinclair'" <sinclair@sinclair.plus.com>,> <sct-islay@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <002a01d1290f$be087a90$3a196fb0$@btinternet.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > I am in UK> http://www.familytreedna.co.uk/> is used very successfully by many UK folks> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:19:12 +0000> From: Toni <ToniSinclair@hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA and Isla> To: Tricia Barnett <tricia.barnett@btinternet.com>,> "sct-islay@rootsweb.com" <sct-islay@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID:> <BLUPR16MB051493208AE8309043C47027D2030@BLUPR16MB0514.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Tricia,> I've tried your links, but it reads "moved to "here", and then clicking on that, nothing happens. Is there another address?> Toni> > ________________________________________> From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com <sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Tricia Barnett via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com>> Sent: November 27, 2015 12:32 PM> To: 'sinclair'; sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] DNA and Isla> > I am in UK> http://www.familytreedna.co.uk/> is used very successfully by many UK folks> > > > -------------------------------> > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it.> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 18:26:23 +0000> From: Toni <ToniSinclair@hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] SCT-ISLAY> To: Jim BAIRD <jbaird@hotmail.com>, "sct-islay@rootsweb.com"> <sct-islay@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID:> <BLUPR16MB05147B30DDA4D577F6CBDBEBD2030@BLUPR16MB0514.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Well, Jim, I'm just delighted by the fact that many generations away from our beloved Islay, our children still want to honour their heritage by naming their children after their ancestors' homeland. My daughter-in-law found out that "Isla" is in the top 10 names for girls in Scotland, although not so common here. I still can't wipe the smile off my face :-)> Toni> > ________________________________________> From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com <sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Jim BAIRD via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com>> Sent: November 27, 2015 8:23 AM> To: Islay List> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] SCT-ISLAY> > Congratulations Toni,If you Canadians keep producing at this rate there will soon be more Ileachs in Ontario than on Islay!All the bestJim> > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the SCT-ISLAY list administrator, send an email to> SCT-ISLAY-admin@rootsweb.com.> > To post a message to the SCT-ISLAY mailing list, send an email to SCT-ISLAY@rootsweb.com.> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 10, Issue 99> *****************************************

Janet,Further to my email re McLugash, I see that our families also feature at Octofad in 1861 Census.  My 4X removed cousin was Farm Manager and your Janet Mitchell was Herd's daughter in same census.   RegardsJohan From: Janet Farmer via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: "sct-islay@rootsweb.com" <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2016, 19:23 Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McLugash Hi,J Lochridge.  It's been a long time since I've sent anything to the Islay site You mentioned in one of your emails that your Stevenson family farmed at Laggan until 1874 I believe.  My ggrandfather Archibald McLugash and family farmed at Laggan from 1872 to some time after 1891 when they left for the mainland ending up at 3 Barness St Barrhead Renfreshire. Does anyone on the list know anything about the farms at Laggan.  I believe at one time there were three but not sure.  Any info would be appreciated. Janet (Ontario) ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In response to inquiries to about Laggan farm I do not know much about the farm other than knowing that it was one of the places my ancestor Robert McKerroll lived on Islay before immigrating to Oro Township, Simcoe County Canada in 1831. I also wanted to mention that Armin Grewe has some recent posts (May19, 2016) on his photoblog (www.islay.org.uk <http://www.islay.org.uk/>) showing Laggan farm. You can also use the search feature to find other photos of Laggan farm or other places on Islay. Living in Canada I find this photoblog is a wonderful way to visit Islay from afar. Allison Akgungor Message: 1 Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 18:23:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Janet Farmer <janadama@yahoo.ca <mailto:janadama@yahoo.ca>> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McLugash To: "sct-islay@rootsweb.com <mailto:sct-islay@rootsweb.com>" <sct-islay@rootsweb.com <mailto:sct-islay@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <171054284.5988769.1463682230982.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com <mailto:171054284.5988769.1463682230982.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi,J Lochridge.? It's been a long time since I've sent anything to the Islay site You mentioned in one of your emails that your Stevenson family farmed at Laggan until 1874 I believe.? My ggrandfather Archibald McLugash and family farmed at Laggan from 1872 to some time after 1891 when they left for the mainland ending up at 3 Barness St Barrhead Renfreshire. Does anyone on the list know anything about the farms at Laggan.? I believe at one time there were three but not sure.? Any info would be appreciated. Janet (Ontario)

In response to Toni’s message and Bob MacQueen’s very generous sharing of his research and writing (see below) I just want to say how much I enjoyed reading this and his detailed documentation of what his ancestors journey from Islay to Canada must have been like. I have a handwritten account of travels from Scotland to Canada in the 1830s to Bass Lake, Oro Township, Simcoe County. A granddaughter recorded the story told by her McPherson grandmother. It tells of a similar journey to what Bob McQueen has found. “They were a month coming up the country--that was before there were any trains running. They landed at Quebec and came up to Montreal in small boats, then up the Rapids in small boats drawn by horses on the shore. When nearing a rapid they were told to get out and walk so they came slowly towards Toronto, then muddy little York. When they arrived in Toronto they could not get anywhere to stay overnight. After some time they at last got a place but had to pay twenty-one shillings apiece for the privilege of sleeping on the floor in their own clothes. Next morning they engaged a man to take their luggage to Holland Landing. One of my uncles was sick and could not walk so went on the luggage. The rest of the family walked from Toronto to Holland Landing then came over Lake Simcoe in small boats to the Narrows as Orillia was then called by the settlers. It was only an Indian village then.” My sister and I have visited Ontario several times retracing some of the routes our ancestors took, reading historical accounts as we travelled such as The Backwoods of Canada by Catherine Parr Traill. We really appreciated travel on asphalt highways while reading of oxen and their loads disappearing into the swamp sliding off bumpy corduroy roads. This summer we plan to take a cruise on the Rideau canal as an account of our McPhee 3x-great-grandparents travels from Islay to Derby Twp, Grey County, Ontario in 1851 includes travel on the canal: "They were held in quarantine at Quebec for two weeks, then the family were taken by steamboat to Toronto via the St Lawrence River, Ottawa River, Rideau Canal and Lake Ontario.” I would be interested to know if anyone else has heard of this route being used by their ancestors. When their daughter, Margaret McPhee Niven (my great-great-grandmother) came in 1865 as a widow with 5 young children (from my research) she travelled on an Allan Line combined steam and sailing vessel The Saint Andrew to Quebec and likely then by train to Toronto, then by train to Collingwood and then by side-wheeler steamboat from Collingwood to Owen Sound which must have been a much faster and easier journey overall. Although keeping track of 5 young children must have been quite the challenge! Fortunately her unmarried sister accompanied her. Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 12:03:33 +0000 From: Toni <ToniSinclair@hotmail.com <mailto:ToniSinclair@hotmail.com>> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McQueens from Islay to Ontario To: Islay <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com <mailto:SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <BLUPR16MB051461493857310E88648602D2740@BLUPR16MB0514.namprd16.prod.outlook.com <mailto:BLUPR16MB051461493857310E88648602D2740@blupr16mb0514.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi folks, Recently Bob McQueen from New Zealand sent me a copy of a booklet he just published regarding his ancestors' trip from Islay to Nottawasaga Township in 1833. It's the best accounting of the actual journey that I've read. I asked him if I could pass this on to the Islay group, in case some of you wanted to order a copy. Here is his response: " Yes, it would be great to have you post something on the Islay list. And I could probably arrange sales of physical book. However, it would be much easier to have you point interested people at a free copy of the book, available for downloading at http://www.mngt.waikato.ac.nz/bmcqueen/WEBDOCS/mcqueen/index.htm <http://www.mngt.waikato.ac.nz/bmcqueen/WEBDOCS/mcqueen/index.htm> I'd rather get the free electronic file out there and distributed (and forwarded) to as many as are interested rather than trying to make any money to offset printing costs of the physical copy. Bob" So here you go! A freeby worth a million. I hope you enjoy reading this as much as I did. Toni

Hello Janet,Funny how things click into place, but you may be able to help me.  My family friend that we spoke of years ago was Catherine Campbell b 1905.  Her father was John Campbell (who may have been a policeman) and Mary McDougall (who may have been McLugash).  Ctherine's address when she married Andrew Fleming was 1 Barnes Street Barrhead.  When I read your email I began to think of them again and Hey Ho!  Andrew Fleming was son of Thomas Fleming.......he features in my McKay Family Tree, his father was first married to my 2X great aunt Janet McKay who died in USA in 1858.,..... but all that is an aside....Do you know if Mary McDougall above was dau of your Archibald McDougall and if so who was her mother?Look forward to hearing from you and sorry I can't help with info on Laggan FarmRegards from a damp west coast of ScotlandJohan From: Janet Farmer via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: "sct-islay@rootsweb.com" <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2016, 19:23 Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McLugash Hi,J Lochridge.  It's been a long time since I've sent anything to the Islay site You mentioned in one of your emails that your Stevenson family farmed at Laggan until 1874 I believe.  My ggrandfather Archibald McLugash and family farmed at Laggan from 1872 to some time after 1891 when they left for the mainland ending up at 3 Barness St Barrhead Renfreshire. Does anyone on the list know anything about the farms at Laggan.  I believe at one time there were three but not sure.  Any info would be appreciated. Janet (Ontario) ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi,J Lochridge.  It's been a long time since I've sent anything to the Islay site You mentioned in one of your emails that your Stevenson family farmed at Laggan until 1874 I believe.  My ggrandfather Archibald McLugash and family farmed at Laggan from 1872 to some time after 1891 when they left for the mainland ending up at 3 Barness St Barrhead Renfreshire. Does anyone on the list know anything about the farms at Laggan.  I believe at one time there were three but not sure.  Any info would be appreciated. Janet (Ontario)

We’ve enjoyed Feis Ile a couple of times and loved it. Wish we were going to be there this year. Sue During the Islay Festival, on May 22nd, Bruichladdich’s Day, there will be live streaming of part of the activities. http://www.bruichladdich.com/article/bruichladdich-day-2016-laddievision For the whole Festival, see http://www.islayfestival.com/festival-programme/

Hi folks, Recently Bob McQueen from New Zealand sent me a copy of a booklet he just published regarding his ancestors' trip from Islay to Nottawasaga Township in 1833. It's the best accounting of the actual journey that I've read. I asked him if I could pass this on to the Islay group, in case some of you wanted to order a copy. Here is his response: " Yes, it would be great to have you post something on the Islay list. And I could probably arrange sales of physical book. However, it would be much easier to have you point interested people at a free copy of the book, available for downloading at http://www.mngt.waikato.ac.nz/bmcqueen/WEBDOCS/mcqueen/index.htm I'd rather get the free electronic file out there and distributed (and forwarded) to as many as are interested rather than trying to make any money to offset printing costs of the physical copy. Bob" So here you go! A freeby worth a million. I hope you enjoy reading this as much as I did. Toni

I agree Toni!! I'm part way through it (sorry Bob - a extra hectic life in recent times got in the way of good intentions) and it IS VERY WELL WRITTEN. I'm actually taking it with me on vacation so I can finish it :) Another question Bob - can I forward the link to Ron Steenvoorden to be included in www.islayinfo.com history section? Sue -----Original Message----- From: Toni via Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 8:03 AM To: Islay Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McQueens from Islay to Ontario Hi folks, Recently Bob McQueen from New Zealand sent me a copy of a booklet he just published regarding his ancestors' trip from Islay to Nottawasaga Township in 1833. It's the best accounting of the actual journey that I've read. I asked him if I could pass this on to the Islay group, in case some of you wanted to order a copy. Here is his response: " Yes, it would be great to have you post something on the Islay list. And I could probably arrange sales of physical book. However, it would be much easier to have you point interested people at a free copy of the book, available for downloading at http://www.mngt.waikato.ac.nz/bmcqueen/WEBDOCS/mcqueen/index.htm I'd rather get the free electronic file out there and distributed (and forwarded) to as many as are interested rather than trying to make any money to offset printing costs of the physical copy. Bob" So here you go! A freeby worth a million. I hope you enjoy reading this as much as I did. Toni ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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I forgot to add: 1893 Marr RD 569 entry 15 Kilmacolm 1893 28th November North Priestside Kilmacolm After banns accord. to the forms of the Establ Church of Scotland William McAulay Farm Servant Bachelor 23 yrs Craigends, ?? Kilmacolm Duncan McAulay Farmer (deceased) Ann McAulay ms Ross (deceased) Elizabeth McDonald House servant Spinster 22 yrs Priestside, Kilmacolm John McDonald Farmer Bella McDonald ms McDonald Sgnd James Murray Minister of Kilmacolm Witness Marion McDonald Archd Bradshaw 1893 30th November 1893 Kilmacolm Andrew Laise Assist Registrar Regards Iain MacIntosh -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Iain MacIntosh via Sent: 08 May 2016 14:05 To: 'jblyons645'; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Duncan McAulay Hi Fay & Johann The illegitimate birth of William from Ann Ross and Duncan McAulay was confirmed from his birth record: 1868 Births RD559/02 entry 74 Abbey Landward , Renfrew William McAulay Illegitimate 1868 April 21st 11h 55m pm Lounsdale, District of Abbey Landward Duncan McAulay Farm Servant Ann Ross Farm Servant Ann Ross Mother Duncan McAulay his ‘x’ mark, father 1868 May 1st at Paisley William was brought up by his grandmother Margaret McGilvray . I have Hugh Ross b. circa 1800 and Mary McGilvray born c1810 Rothsay, Bute with daughter Agnes born 17 Jan 1842 in Kilchoman Parish . Ann / Agnes? I also have Duncan McAulay 17th Nov 1833 Duich, Kilarrow, son of Lachlan McAulay and Margaret McGilvray. More for the melting pot? Regards Iain MacIntosh Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fay & Johann The illegitimate birth of William from Ann Ross and Duncan McAulay was confirmed from his birth record: 1868 Births RD559/02 entry 74 Abbey Landward , Renfrew William McAulay Illegitimate 1868 April 21st 11h 55m pm Lounsdale, District of Abbey Landward Duncan McAulay Farm Servant Ann Ross Farm Servant Ann Ross Mother Duncan McAulay his ‘x’ mark, father 1868 May 1st at Paisley William was brought up by his grandmother Margaret McGilvray . I have Hugh Ross b. circa 1800 and Mary McGilvray born c1810 Rothsay, Bute with daughter Agnes born 17 Jan 1842 in Kilchoman Parish . Ann / Agnes? I also have Duncan McAulay 17th Nov 1833 Duich, Kilarrow, son of Lachlan McAulay and Margaret McGilvray. More for the melting pot? Regards Iain MacIntosh -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J LOCHRIDGE via Sent: 01 May 2016 17:00 To: jblyons645; sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Duncan McAulay Forgive me Fay, Just enjoy helping solve mysteries. I had a look at death of Duncan McAulay 30 March 1859, age 36 at Carabus, Kilarrow. Widower (no wfe's name noted) son of Neil McAulay and Margaret McLean, deceased. Sister Mary present and reg'd the death.I know this isn't taaking you any closer to Ann Ross. My gut feeling is that she died soon after William's birth, but don't know how it could ever be established, unless Duncan was informant of the death. I hadn't realise there were so many People named Ann Ross. I hope you don't mind me trying to helpRegardsJohan From: jblyons645 via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> To: Islay List <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, 29 April 2016, 19:16 Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Duncan McAulay Further to my previous enquiry, we have established that Duncan was born about 1825 to Niel McAulay and Margaret McLean. There is also a family story that son William ,whose birth certificates indicates he was illegitimate, had ground near the round church in Bowmore which was sold between 1950/1960. Again if anyone has any further information please let me know. Regards Fay ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jackie, Interestingly a parallel story about the McKerrells of Islay is that they were hereditary minstrels to the Lords of the Isles (McDonalds). The story has come down through the family but was also included by Domhnall Mac Eacharna, an Islay historian, writing as Domhnall Gruamach (Grumpy Donald) in his book "The House of Islay" "When the great blind Harper, Mulrony MacCarrol or MacKerrol (MacChairell = Son of Melody) who was described in the Annals of the Four Masters as the "chieftest minstrel of all Ireland and Scotland," visited Angus Og as a most honoured guest in his Castle of Dunaverty (around the year 1310) the Lord of the Isles invited him to send over one or two of his sons to become the hereditary Minstrels to the Lordship - and this is how the MacKerrels and MacKerrals came to Kintyre and to Islay. They are happily with us still - and much of their hereditary gift of music too." MacEacharna also wrote in the same book, "There were also the MacArthurs. hereditary Pipers of the Lordship, who came to Islay from Skye, where the MacArthur School of Piping was older and even more famous in its day than that of the great MacCrimmon. For their piping the MacArthurs held the lands of Proaig (until evicted by the usurpers) and descendants of those MacArthurs are still among us The great headland known as MacArthur's Head was named in honour of the Pipers of nearby Proaig." His writings on the MacIndeors said, "Another highly important hereditary post was that of Almoner (An Deor) whose duty it was to look after the welfare of the old folk and to act as guardian of the widows and the orphans. Mac an Deoir meant Son of the Almoner and it is a pleasing thought to realise that several families of Maclndeoir (as now spelt) are with us still at the present day." Having introduced this little bit of apparent conroversy, I think it is prudent for me now to slip quietly into the background! <grin> All the best Jim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 08:37:49 +0100 From: Jackie <jackie@huntleyhouse.eu> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 11, Issue 18 To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <FE9A9904-B09D-4E3E-8596-1A89A6CC0AA8@huntleyhouse.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Fay ......................................... One story is that the McIndeors were the pipers to the MacDonalds of Islay and the pipes were being played when the church was burnt down at Kilnave...................... Best wishes. Jackie Holmes. > > > ------------------------------- > > Quoting the entire text of a previous message in a reply is poor netiquette. Please don't do it. > > -------------------------------

Jackie, thanks for your email, I would love to hear some of the myths and stories about the family unfortunately the correspondence from Janet Low was not attached. Regards Fay Sent from my iPod On 3 May 2016, at 08:37, Jackie via <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Fay > > I have all this on record below on Ancestry as you have the same family tree as me. There are some interesting stories about the family, I have not had any time to seriously delve into them yet but the most notable is a set of bagpipes and chanters now in the bagpipe museum which belonged to the family. My aunt tried to verify some of the myths and stories about them but they are all hard to verify. One story is that the McIndeors were the pipers to the MacDonalds of Islay and the pipes were being played when the church was burnt down at Kilnave. > > Here below is a correspondence I had with Janet Low, another member of this family tree and who was visiting Islay in 2010. > > Best wishes. > > Jackie Holmes. > > > > > > >> On 3 May 2016, at 08:00, sct-islay-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> If replying with quote to a digest message, quote =ONLY= the relevant portion of the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. ALSO: change the subject of your reply to match the message subject to which you are replying. Failure to follow these guidelines may result in your reply being rejected. >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Duncan McAulay (J LOCHRIDGE) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:45:42 +0000 (UTC) >> From: J LOCHRIDGE <j.lochridge@btinternet.com> >> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Duncan McAulay >> To: "chouston@f2s.com" <chouston@f2s.com>, Islay List >> <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <1436465623.9325891.1462200342122.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> This is what makes this list special, everyone is so helpful. ?I love it.And although I can't link to the McAulays, my 1st cousin 4 times removed, Hugh Stevenson farmed at Laggan until his death in 1884. ?He wasn't born on Islay, and went there at a time which was difficult for the crofters. I'm sorry but I hope he was a good man! >> Now apologies if everyone has already seen the following! ?Best wishes to allJohan >> >> >> To: J LOCHRIDGE <j.lochridge@btinternet.com> >> Sent: Monday, 2 May 2016, 9:46 >> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Duncan McAulay >> >> Hi, >> >> Fay did not put some later info on the group and although I posted it to the >> group it did not appear there. >> Seems Duncan's parents were Lachlan McAulay and? Margaret McGilvray. >> >> Regards >> Charles >> =================== >> Hi Fay, >> >> A Duncan McAULAY was baptised at Bowmore in 17th Nov 1822 to Neil and >> Margaret McLean, however I think? your one, was more likely the son of >> Lachlan and Margaret McGILVRAY and baptised at Bowmore 17th Nov 1833, >> probably at Laggan. >> >> A likely Duncan McAULAY was also living at Jamieson St., in 1881 near his >> mother Margaret? >> >> IF? I am correct his tree is like as below >> >> Regards >> >> Charles >> ================= >> >> Descendants of John McAULAY >> >> >> Generation No. 1 >> >> ? ? 1.? John1 McAULAY was born Abt. 1781 in of Glenavulin ,Kildalton, Islay, >> Argyll, Scotland.? He married Flora BELL.? She was born Abt. 1785 in of >> Glenavulin ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. >> >> Children of John McAULAY and Flora BELL are: >> ? ? 2? ? i.? ? Anne2 McAULAY, born Abt. 03 Nov 1806 in Glenavulin >> ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. >> +? ? 3? ? ii.? ? Lachlan McAULAY, born Abt. 1808 in Glenavulin ,Kildalton, >> Islay, Argyll, Scotland?; died 01 Sep 1867 in at Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, >> Islay, Argyyl, Scotland. >> ? ? 4? ? iii.? ? Bella McAULAY, born Abt. 1821 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland. >> >> More About Bella McAULAY:Occupation: Jun 1841, Agric lab at Laggan farm, >> Kilarrow >> >> >> Generation No. 2 >> >> ? ? 3.? Lachlan2 McAULAY (John1) was born Abt. 1808 in Glenavulin >> ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland?, and died 01 Sep 1867 in at Laggan >> Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.? He married Margaret (Peggy) >> McGILVRAY 04 Dec 1832 in Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.? She was born >> 1810 in Kilchoman, Islay, Argyll, Scotland Re 1851/ 1881 Census, and died >> 1892 in Bowmore, Islay, Argll, Scotland. >> >> More About Lachlan McAULAY: Fact: 1867, Parents given on Death Record as >> John and Flora BELL >> Occupation: Jun 1841, Agric lab at Laggan farm, Kilarrow >> >> More About Margaret (Peggy) McGILVRAY: >> Fact: Apr 1851, Living at Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland >> >> More About Lachlan McAULAY and Margaret McGILVRAY: >> Marriage: 04 Dec 1832, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland >> >> Children of Lachlan McAULAY and Margaret McGILVRAY are: >> +? ? 5? ? i.? ? Duncan3 McAULAY, born Abt. 17 Nov 1833 in Kilarrow, Islay, >> Argyyl, Scotland. >> +? ? 6? ? ii.? ? John McAULAY, born Abt. 03 Jan 1836 in Laggan Farm, >> Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland. >> ? ? 7? ? iii.? ? William McAULAY, born Abt. 12 May 1838 in Laggan Farm, >> Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland. >> ? ? 8? ? iv.? ? Mary McAULAY, born 1840 in Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, >> Argyyl, Scotland.? She married Neil McALPINE 04 Dec 1873 in Kilarrow, Islay, >> Argyll, Scotland; born Abt. 10 Feb 1842 in Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, >> Scotland. >> >> More About Neil McALPINE and Mary McAULAY: >> Marriage: 04 Dec 1873, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, Scotland >> >> +? ? 9? ? v.? ? Flora McAULAY, born 1844 in Laggan, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, >> Scotland; died 21 Dec 1931 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland. >> ? ? 10? ? vi.? ? Janet McAULAY, born 1848 in Laggan, Kilarrow, Islay, >> Argyyl, Scotland. >> ? ? 11? ? vii.? ? Neil McAULAY, born Jan 1851 in Laggan, Kilarrow, Islay, >> Argyyl, Scotland. >> >> More About Neil McAULAY: Fact: 1867, Registered father's (Lachlan) death >> >> >> Generation No. 3 >> >> ? ? 5.? Duncan3 McAULAY (Lachlan2, John1) was born Abt. 17 Nov 1833 in >> Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.? He met (1) Ann ROSS.? She was born Abt. >> 1847.? He married (2) Marion McLUGASH 27 Nov 1873 in Kilarrow, Islay, >> daughter of John McLUGASH and Christina McINTYRE.? She was born 1842 in >> Kilchoman, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. >> >> More About Duncan McAULAY: >> Occupation: Apr 1881, Possibly the Carter and farm labourer living at >> Jamieson St., Bowmore >> >> More About Duncan McAULAY and Marion McLUGASH: >> Marriage: 27 Nov 1873, Kilarrow, Islay >> >> Child of Duncan McAULAY and Ann ROSS is: >> ? ? 12? ? i.? ? William4 McAULAY, born Apr 1868 in Neilston, Renfrew, >> Scotland Reg at Abbey.? He married Euphemia MacDONALD in Kilmacolm, Ayr, >> Scoltand; born Abt. 1872. >> >> More About William McAULAY and Euphemia MacDONALD: >> Marriage: Kilmacolm, Ayr, Scoltand >> >> >> ? ? 6.? John3 McAULAY (Lachlan2, John1) was born Abt. 03 Jan 1836 in Laggan >> Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.? He married Catherine SINCLAIR. >> She was born Abt. 1836. >> >> Child of John McAULAY and Catherine SINCLAIR is: >> ? ? 13? ? i.? ? Angus4 McAULAY, born 11 Jun 1857 in Bowmore, Islay, Argll, >> Scotland. >> >> >> ? ? 9.? Flora3 McAULAY (Lachlan2, John1) was born 1844 in Laggan, Kilarrow, >> Islay, Argyll, Scotland, and died 21 Dec 1931 in Campsie, Stirling, >> Scotland.? She married Hugh McINDEOR 21 Jul 1868 in Campsie, Stirling, >> Scotland, son of Dugald McINDOER and Margaret McCORKINDALE.? He was born 30 >> Apr 1844 in Bowmore, Islay, Argyll, Scotland, and died 29 Nov 1904 in >> Clydebank, Dunbarton, Scotland. >> >> More About Hugh McINDEOR: >> Occupation: Apr 1881, Ship Carpenter at 5 Strathleven Place, Dumbarton, >> Dunbarton, Scotland at same address as brother John's family. >> >> More About Hugh McINDEOR and Flora McAULAY: >> Marriage: 21 Jul 1868, Campsie, Stirling, Scotland >> >> Children of Flora McAULAY and Hugh McINDEOR are: >> ? ? 14? ? i.? ? Margaret4 McINDEOR, born 1868 in Dumbarton, Dunbarton, >> Scotland. >> ? ? 15? ? ii.? ? John McINDEOR, born 28 Apr 1871 in Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, >> Scotland. >> ? ? 16? ? iii.? ? Dugald McINDEOR, born 1874 in Dumbarton, Dunbarton, >> Scotland. >> ? ? 17? ? iv.? ? Ann McINDEOR, born 1877 in Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland. >> ? ? 18? ? v.? ? Flora McINDEOR, born Abt. Jul 1880 in 5 Strathleven Place, >> Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland. >> ? ? 19? ? vi.? ? Hugh McINDEOR, born 1883 in 5 Strathleven Place, Dumbarton, >> Dunbarton, Scotland. >> ? ? 20? ? vii.? ? Katie McINDEOR, born 1886 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland. >> ? ? 21? ? viii.? ? Hilina McINDEOR, born 1891 in Campsie, Stirling, >> Scotland. >> ================= >> >> Charles, I now believe we went down the wrong Duncan McAulay route and the >> correct one was born in 1833. Your information is much appreciated and we >> can now move on. Our only outstanding point is what happened to Ann Ross. >> We could not understand how my grandfather got to Islay at such an early age >> but we now believe his father returned to Islay and then married Marion who >> obviously did not know about William or would not accept him. >> We also heard through the family that William carried peat to distilleries >> which would tie in with what you have found, the other story we heard >> relates to my grandfather selling a piece of ground near the round church in >> Bowmore. 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Hi Fay I have all this on record below on Ancestry as you have the same family tree as me. There are some interesting stories about the family, I have not had any time to seriously delve into them yet but the most notable is a set of bagpipes and chanters now in the bagpipe museum which belonged to the family. My aunt tried to verify some of the myths and stories about them but they are all hard to verify. One story is that the McIndeors were the pipers to the MacDonalds of Islay and the pipes were being played when the church was burnt down at Kilnave. Here below is a correspondence I had with Janet Low, another member of this family tree and who was visiting Islay in 2010. Best wishes. Jackie Holmes. > On 3 May 2016, at 08:00, sct-islay-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > > If replying with quote to a digest message, quote =ONLY= the relevant portion of the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. ALSO: change the subject of your reply to match the message subject to which you are replying. Failure to follow these guidelines may result in your reply being rejected. > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Duncan McAulay (J LOCHRIDGE) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 14:45:42 +0000 (UTC) > From: J LOCHRIDGE <j.lochridge@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Duncan McAulay > To: "chouston@f2s.com" <chouston@f2s.com>, Islay List > <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <1436465623.9325891.1462200342122.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > This is what makes this list special, everyone is so helpful. ?I love it.And although I can't link to the McAulays, my 1st cousin 4 times removed, Hugh Stevenson farmed at Laggan until his death in 1884. ?He wasn't born on Islay, and went there at a time which was difficult for the crofters. I'm sorry but I hope he was a good man! > Now apologies if everyone has already seen the following! ?Best wishes to allJohan > > > To: J LOCHRIDGE <j.lochridge@btinternet.com> > Sent: Monday, 2 May 2016, 9:46 > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Duncan McAulay > > Hi, > > Fay did not put some later info on the group and although I posted it to the > group it did not appear there. > Seems Duncan's parents were Lachlan McAulay and? Margaret McGilvray. > > Regards > Charles > =================== > Hi Fay, > > A Duncan McAULAY was baptised at Bowmore in 17th Nov 1822 to Neil and > Margaret McLean, however I think? your one, was more likely the son of > Lachlan and Margaret McGILVRAY and baptised at Bowmore 17th Nov 1833, > probably at Laggan. > > A likely Duncan McAULAY was also living at Jamieson St., in 1881 near his > mother Margaret? > > IF? I am correct his tree is like as below > > Regards > > Charles > ================= > > Descendants of John McAULAY > > > Generation No. 1 > > ? ? 1.? John1 McAULAY was born Abt. 1781 in of Glenavulin ,Kildalton, Islay, > Argyll, Scotland.? He married Flora BELL.? She was born Abt. 1785 in of > Glenavulin ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. > > Children of John McAULAY and Flora BELL are: > ? ? 2? ? i.? ? Anne2 McAULAY, born Abt. 03 Nov 1806 in Glenavulin > ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. > +? ? 3? ? ii.? ? Lachlan McAULAY, born Abt. 1808 in Glenavulin ,Kildalton, > Islay, Argyll, Scotland?; died 01 Sep 1867 in at Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, > Islay, Argyyl, Scotland. > ? ? 4? ? iii.? ? Bella McAULAY, born Abt. 1821 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland. > > More About Bella McAULAY:Occupation: Jun 1841, Agric lab at Laggan farm, > Kilarrow > > > Generation No. 2 > > ? ? 3.? Lachlan2 McAULAY (John1) was born Abt. 1808 in Glenavulin > ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland?, and died 01 Sep 1867 in at Laggan > Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.? He married Margaret (Peggy) > McGILVRAY 04 Dec 1832 in Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.? She was born > 1810 in Kilchoman, Islay, Argyll, Scotland Re 1851/ 1881 Census, and died > 1892 in Bowmore, Islay, Argll, Scotland. > > More About Lachlan McAULAY: Fact: 1867, Parents given on Death Record as > John and Flora BELL > Occupation: Jun 1841, Agric lab at Laggan farm, Kilarrow > > More About Margaret (Peggy) McGILVRAY: > Fact: Apr 1851, Living at Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland > > More About Lachlan McAULAY and Margaret McGILVRAY: > Marriage: 04 Dec 1832, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland > > Children of Lachlan McAULAY and Margaret McGILVRAY are: > +? ? 5? ? i.? ? Duncan3 McAULAY, born Abt. 17 Nov 1833 in Kilarrow, Islay, > Argyyl, Scotland. > +? ? 6? ? ii.? ? John McAULAY, born Abt. 03 Jan 1836 in Laggan Farm, > Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland. > ? ? 7? ? iii.? ? William McAULAY, born Abt. 12 May 1838 in Laggan Farm, > Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland. > ? ? 8? ? iv.? ? Mary McAULAY, born 1840 in Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, > Argyyl, Scotland.? She married Neil McALPINE 04 Dec 1873 in Kilarrow, Islay, > Argyll, Scotland; born Abt. 10 Feb 1842 in Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, > Scotland. > > More About Neil McALPINE and Mary McAULAY: > Marriage: 04 Dec 1873, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, Scotland > > +? ? 9? ? v.? ? Flora McAULAY, born 1844 in Laggan, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, > Scotland; died 21 Dec 1931 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland. > ? ? 10? ? vi.? ? Janet McAULAY, born 1848 in Laggan, Kilarrow, Islay, > Argyyl, Scotland. > ? ? 11? ? vii.? ? Neil McAULAY, born Jan 1851 in Laggan, Kilarrow, Islay, > Argyyl, Scotland. > > More About Neil McAULAY: Fact: 1867, Registered father's (Lachlan) death > > > Generation No. 3 > > ? ? 5.? Duncan3 McAULAY (Lachlan2, John1) was born Abt. 17 Nov 1833 in > Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.? He met (1) Ann ROSS.? She was born Abt. > 1847.? He married (2) Marion McLUGASH 27 Nov 1873 in Kilarrow, Islay, > daughter of John McLUGASH and Christina McINTYRE.? She was born 1842 in > Kilchoman, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. > > More About Duncan McAULAY: > Occupation: Apr 1881, Possibly the Carter and farm labourer living at > Jamieson St., Bowmore > > More About Duncan McAULAY and Marion McLUGASH: > Marriage: 27 Nov 1873, Kilarrow, Islay > > Child of Duncan McAULAY and Ann ROSS is: > ? ? 12? ? i.? ? William4 McAULAY, born Apr 1868 in Neilston, Renfrew, > Scotland Reg at Abbey.? He married Euphemia MacDONALD in Kilmacolm, Ayr, > Scoltand; born Abt. 1872. > > More About William McAULAY and Euphemia MacDONALD: > Marriage: Kilmacolm, Ayr, Scoltand > > > ? ? 6.? John3 McAULAY (Lachlan2, John1) was born Abt. 03 Jan 1836 in Laggan > Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.? He married Catherine SINCLAIR. > She was born Abt. 1836. > > Child of John McAULAY and Catherine SINCLAIR is: > ? ? 13? ? i.? ? Angus4 McAULAY, born 11 Jun 1857 in Bowmore, Islay, Argll, > Scotland. > > > ? ? 9.? Flora3 McAULAY (Lachlan2, John1) was born 1844 in Laggan, Kilarrow, > Islay, Argyll, Scotland, and died 21 Dec 1931 in Campsie, Stirling, > Scotland.? She married Hugh McINDEOR 21 Jul 1868 in Campsie, Stirling, > Scotland, son of Dugald McINDOER and Margaret McCORKINDALE.? He was born 30 > Apr 1844 in Bowmore, Islay, Argyll, Scotland, and died 29 Nov 1904 in > Clydebank, Dunbarton, Scotland. > > More About Hugh McINDEOR: > Occupation: Apr 1881, Ship Carpenter at 5 Strathleven Place, Dumbarton, > Dunbarton, Scotland at same address as brother John's family. > > More About Hugh McINDEOR and Flora McAULAY: > Marriage: 21 Jul 1868, Campsie, Stirling, Scotland > > Children of Flora McAULAY and Hugh McINDEOR are: > ? ? 14? ? i.? ? Margaret4 McINDEOR, born 1868 in Dumbarton, Dunbarton, > Scotland. > ? ? 15? ? ii.? ? John McINDEOR, born 28 Apr 1871 in Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, > Scotland. > ? ? 16? ? iii.? ? Dugald McINDEOR, born 1874 in Dumbarton, Dunbarton, > Scotland. > ? ? 17? ? iv.? ? Ann McINDEOR, born 1877 in Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland. > ? ? 18? ? v.? ? Flora McINDEOR, born Abt. Jul 1880 in 5 Strathleven Place, > Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland. > ? ? 19? ? vi.? ? Hugh McINDEOR, born 1883 in 5 Strathleven Place, Dumbarton, > Dunbarton, Scotland. > ? ? 20? ? vii.? ? Katie McINDEOR, born 1886 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland. > ? ? 21? ? viii.? ? Hilina McINDEOR, born 1891 in Campsie, Stirling, > Scotland. > ================= > > Charles, I now believe we went down the wrong Duncan McAulay route and the > correct one was born in 1833. Your information is much appreciated and we > can now move on. Our only outstanding point is what happened to Ann Ross. > We could not understand how my grandfather got to Islay at such an early age > but we now believe his father returned to Islay and then married Marion who > obviously did not know about William or would not accept him. > We also heard through the family that William carried peat to distilleries > which would tie in with what you have found, the other story we heard > relates to my grandfather selling a piece of ground near the round church in > Bowmore. We will now try and follow this up. > Once again many thanks for your information which has greatly helped with > our family tree. > Regards > Fay > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SCT-ISLAY list administrator, send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SCT-ISLAY mailing list, send an email to SCT-ISLAY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 11, Issue 18 > *****************************************

This is what makes this list special, everyone is so helpful.  I love it.And although I can't link to the McAulays, my 1st cousin 4 times removed, Hugh Stevenson farmed at Laggan until his death in 1884.  He wasn't born on Islay, and went there at a time which was difficult for the crofters. I'm sorry but I hope he was a good man! Now apologies if everyone has already seen the following!  Best wishes to allJohan To: J LOCHRIDGE <j.lochridge@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, 2 May 2016, 9:46 Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Duncan McAulay Hi, Fay did not put some later info on the group and although I posted it to the group it did not appear there. Seems Duncan's parents were Lachlan McAulay and  Margaret McGilvray. Regards Charles =================== Hi Fay, A Duncan McAULAY was baptised at Bowmore in 17th Nov 1822 to Neil and Margaret McLean, however I think  your one, was more likely the son of Lachlan and Margaret McGILVRAY and baptised at Bowmore 17th Nov 1833, probably at Laggan. A likely Duncan McAULAY was also living at Jamieson St., in 1881 near his mother Margaret? IF  I am correct his tree is like as below Regards Charles ================= Descendants of John McAULAY Generation No. 1     1.  John1 McAULAY was born Abt. 1781 in of Glenavulin ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland.  He married Flora BELL.  She was born Abt. 1785 in of Glenavulin ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. Children of John McAULAY and Flora BELL are:     2    i.    Anne2 McAULAY, born Abt. 03 Nov 1806 in Glenavulin ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. +    3    ii.    Lachlan McAULAY, born Abt. 1808 in Glenavulin ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland?; died 01 Sep 1867 in at Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.     4    iii.    Bella McAULAY, born Abt. 1821 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland. More About Bella McAULAY:Occupation: Jun 1841, Agric lab at Laggan farm, Kilarrow Generation No. 2     3.  Lachlan2 McAULAY (John1) was born Abt. 1808 in Glenavulin ,Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland?, and died 01 Sep 1867 in at Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.  He married Margaret (Peggy) McGILVRAY 04 Dec 1832 in Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.  She was born 1810 in Kilchoman, Islay, Argyll, Scotland Re 1851/ 1881 Census, and died 1892 in Bowmore, Islay, Argll, Scotland. More About Lachlan McAULAY: Fact: 1867, Parents given on Death Record as John and Flora BELL Occupation: Jun 1841, Agric lab at Laggan farm, Kilarrow More About Margaret (Peggy) McGILVRAY: Fact: Apr 1851, Living at Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland More About Lachlan McAULAY and Margaret McGILVRAY: Marriage: 04 Dec 1832, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland Children of Lachlan McAULAY and Margaret McGILVRAY are: +    5    i.    Duncan3 McAULAY, born Abt. 17 Nov 1833 in Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland. +    6    ii.    John McAULAY, born Abt. 03 Jan 1836 in Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.     7    iii.    William McAULAY, born Abt. 12 May 1838 in Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.     8    iv.    Mary McAULAY, born 1840 in Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.  She married Neil McALPINE 04 Dec 1873 in Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, Scotland; born Abt. 10 Feb 1842 in Kildalton, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. More About Neil McALPINE and Mary McAULAY: Marriage: 04 Dec 1873, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, Scotland +    9    v.    Flora McAULAY, born 1844 in Laggan, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, Scotland; died 21 Dec 1931 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland.     10    vi.    Janet McAULAY, born 1848 in Laggan, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.     11    vii.    Neil McAULAY, born Jan 1851 in Laggan, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland. More About Neil McAULAY: Fact: 1867, Registered father's (Lachlan) death Generation No. 3     5.  Duncan3 McAULAY (Lachlan2, John1) was born Abt. 17 Nov 1833 in Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.  He met (1) Ann ROSS.  She was born Abt. 1847.  He married (2) Marion McLUGASH 27 Nov 1873 in Kilarrow, Islay, daughter of John McLUGASH and Christina McINTYRE.  She was born 1842 in Kilchoman, Islay, Argyll, Scotland. More About Duncan McAULAY: Occupation: Apr 1881, Possibly the Carter and farm labourer living at Jamieson St., Bowmore More About Duncan McAULAY and Marion McLUGASH: Marriage: 27 Nov 1873, Kilarrow, Islay Child of Duncan McAULAY and Ann ROSS is:     12    i.    William4 McAULAY, born Apr 1868 in Neilston, Renfrew, Scotland Reg at Abbey.  He married Euphemia MacDONALD in Kilmacolm, Ayr, Scoltand; born Abt. 1872. More About William McAULAY and Euphemia MacDONALD: Marriage: Kilmacolm, Ayr, Scoltand     6.  John3 McAULAY (Lachlan2, John1) was born Abt. 03 Jan 1836 in Laggan Farm, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyyl, Scotland.  He married Catherine SINCLAIR. She was born Abt. 1836. Child of John McAULAY and Catherine SINCLAIR is:     13    i.    Angus4 McAULAY, born 11 Jun 1857 in Bowmore, Islay, Argll, Scotland.     9.  Flora3 McAULAY (Lachlan2, John1) was born 1844 in Laggan, Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, Scotland, and died 21 Dec 1931 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland.  She married Hugh McINDEOR 21 Jul 1868 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland, son of Dugald McINDOER and Margaret McCORKINDALE.  He was born 30 Apr 1844 in Bowmore, Islay, Argyll, Scotland, and died 29 Nov 1904 in Clydebank, Dunbarton, Scotland. More About Hugh McINDEOR: Occupation: Apr 1881, Ship Carpenter at 5 Strathleven Place, Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland at same address as brother John's family. More About Hugh McINDEOR and Flora McAULAY: Marriage: 21 Jul 1868, Campsie, Stirling, Scotland Children of Flora McAULAY and Hugh McINDEOR are:     14    i.    Margaret4 McINDEOR, born 1868 in Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland.     15    ii.    John McINDEOR, born 28 Apr 1871 in Kilarrow, Islay, Argyll, Scotland.     16    iii.    Dugald McINDEOR, born 1874 in Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland.     17    iv.    Ann McINDEOR, born 1877 in Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland.     18    v.    Flora McINDEOR, born Abt. Jul 1880 in 5 Strathleven Place, Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland.     19    vi.    Hugh McINDEOR, born 1883 in 5 Strathleven Place, Dumbarton, Dunbarton, Scotland.     20    vii.    Katie McINDEOR, born 1886 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland.     21    viii.    Hilina McINDEOR, born 1891 in Campsie, Stirling, Scotland. ================= Charles, I now believe we went down the wrong Duncan McAulay route and the correct one was born in 1833. Your information is much appreciated and we can now move on. Our only outstanding point is what happened to Ann Ross. We could not understand how my grandfather got to Islay at such an early age but we now believe his father returned to Islay and then married Marion who obviously did not know about William or would not accept him. We also heard through the family that William carried peat to distilleries which would tie in with what you have found, the other story we heard relates to my grandfather selling a piece of ground near the round church in Bowmore. We will now try and follow this up. Once again many thanks for your information which has greatly helped with our family tree. Regards Fay