Thanks for the correction Heather. It allowed me to access the first page. Will try again on another computer. Cheers, Don

FYI for the Islay list. See my comments below - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les HORN" <Leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 8:02 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Re: Argyll & Bute Archivist - Murdo MacDonald Dear Mr McLellan It is with some horror that I have learnt that Argyll & Bute Council do not intend to have a full time Archivist in Lochgilphead after Murdo MacDonald's retirement in March. In view of the upturn in interest world-wide into Genealogy and Family History research I find this to be totally unbelievable. I myself have found Murdo's services to be absolutely invaluable, especially considering (the Duke of) Argyll's reluctance to give access to the Campbell / Argyll Estate records, as I research for others . I only live 60 mls from Lochgilphead. Imagine the problem for our cousins thousands of miles away, in the former Colonies, many of whom are researching ancestors who emigrated from this part of the world. It is vital that we maintain the archives for future generations and I ask that your Council reconsider this rather short sighted decision. Yours Les Horn Chairman Lochaber & North Argyll Family History Group ______________________________________________________ From Sue Visser: For those who have gained knowledge through Murdo's help, perhaps a letter campaign to the Council would help. From personal experience, mailed letters seem to carry more weight than emailed letters. Argll & Bute Council James McLellan, Chief Executive Kilmory, Lochgilphead, PA31 8RT Email: enquiries@argyll-bute.gov.uk but make sure to direct it to James McLellan

Try www.keithdash.net I have recently given him a spreadsheet of my transcription of the Tiree section of the 1779 Argyll Estate Book which is searchable. The book was a library copy now returned so I cannot look up anything. Hope this helps Regards Iain Campbell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Milne" <buela8@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 7:09 AM Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLAY] 1779 Argyll Estate Book >I have had no success accessing the Estate Book. What am I doing wrong? > Buela > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don McArthur [mailto:DonMcArthur@webtv.net] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:12 PM > To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] 1779 Argyll Estate Book > > Hi all, > Has anyone had any luck in accessing the 1779 Argyll Estate Book, with > the URL that Heather so kindly supplied? Unfortunately it doesn't work > for me, and all a Google search turns up seems to be people wishing to > sell copies of it. > Cheers, > Don > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information > about > Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To visit the website associated with this project, visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm > >

I have missed your original address Heather. Could you put out the whole address again please? Carolyn

Hi all, Has anyone had any luck in accessing the 1779 Argyll Estate Book, with the URL that Heather so kindly supplied? Unfortunately it doesn't work for me, and all a Google search turns up seems to be people wishing to sell copies of it. Cheers, Don

I have had no success accessing the Estate Book. What am I doing wrong? Buela -----Original Message----- From: Don McArthur [mailto:DonMcArthur@webtv.net] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:12 PM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] 1779 Argyll Estate Book Hi all, Has anyone had any luck in accessing the 1779 Argyll Estate Book, with the URL that Heather so kindly supplied? Unfortunately it doesn't work for me, and all a Google search turns up seems to be people wishing to sell copies of it. Cheers, Don ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information about Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm

WWI casualty information is available online at www.1837online.com/Trace2web/WwdStartSearchServlet These are the Islay men listed. For more information see below the list. ANDERSON, David ANDERSON, James Killarow ANDERSON, John Killarow BAKER, James BROWN, Peter Port Ellen BUIE, John Kilmeny CAMERON, Archibald Kilchoman CAMERON, Neil Kilarrow CAMPBELL, Malcolm Kilmeny CAMPBELL, William Kilarrow CURRIE, William ort Ellen DICKIE, George Kilchoman DUNLOP, James FERGUSON, John Kildalton FINNIE, John Ballygrant GRANT, John Killarow JOHNSTON, Duncan MACMILLAN, Alexander Port Charlotte MCARTHUR, Duncan Kildalton MCDOUGALL, John MCEACHERN, Charles Lagavulin MCINDEOR, Gilbert Bridgend MCLEAN, Malcolm Camduncan MCLELLAN, John ilchoman MCLELLAN, John Kilchoman MCNEILL, Peter Kildalton MCNIVEN, Archibald Bridgend QUINTON, Gilbert Kildalton SHAW, Angus Killraw (Kilarrow?) From the Wigtownshire list: There is a new service from the 1837 online site which has the Englsih and Wales BMD searchable indices and through which the English and Welsh certificates can be ordered on line. This is a new service which is free to search and will contain Scottish soldiers as well and compliments the Commonwealth War Graves Commission site listing of War graves. This is the blurb they sent out with the Feb newsletter and the link to the search page is under the blurb. Quote Soldiers Died in the Great War Few families in Britain were untouched by the tragic events of the First World War (1914-1918). By 1918 over five and half million regular soldiers, volunteers and conscripts had served, but one man in eight never returned. These are the men who are memorialised in the latest addition to the 1837online.com site, 'Soldiers Died' found in the Military Records part of our site. This fully searchable database is taken from the original 1921 publication of the same name, published by His Majesty's Stationery Office. It covers over 703,000 names of soldiers and officers who were killed or died in the First World War, both at home and overseas. This dataset complements both the information held on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission's site, as it provides details of place of birth, enlistment and residence and other extra information, and 1837 online.com's own indexes of WW1 deaths which enable you to order the death certificate for any ancestor who died in the First World War. Searching the dataset is free, and provides you with the surname, forenames, place of birth and residence for all the soldiers who meet your criteria. To view all the information available for an individual will use ten units (costing between 50 pence and £1 depending on your price plan). The diect link is: www.1837online.com/Trace2web/WwdStartSearchServlet Cheerio Sue Visser

Hi Toni- It seems a bit of a stretch that their sons (and only children?) were born 22 years apart, so maybe this is the same man, different wives. Steffenie

Great Idea Dixie - I never thought of that. I will do that also Monta -----Original Message----- From: Dixie Cutler [mailto:cutlerd@shaw.ca] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 2:24 PM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Scotlands People Hi Monta, I know what you mean about scotlandspeople -- I have given up all hope of retiring comfortably ;-) Here is another way to share those entries: http://www.sctbdm.com/ I have posted quite a few and hope they may eventually help someone. Best Dixie ______________________________

Hello everyone, Interested in this couple and their descendents. I found the family group in Larson's Kilchoman parish records as follows: McCalman Peter McCaffer Ann McCalman Donald 21 Nov 1824 5 Nov 1824 Kilchoman Argyll Scotland McCalman Peter McCaffer Ann McCalman Duncan 30 Sep 1827 22 May 1827 Kilchoman Argyll Scotland McCalman Peter McCaffer Ann McCalman Angus 25 Jul 1823 8 May 1823 Kilchoman Argyll Scotland McCalman Peter McCaffer Ann McCalman Catherine 12 Aug 1843 1829 Kilchoman Argyll Scotland McCalman Peter McCaffer Ann McCalman Neil 12 Aug 1843 1832 Kilchoman Argyll Scotland McCalman Peter McCaffer Ann McCalman Peter 12 Aug 1843 1834 Kilchoman Argyll Scotland I believe their child Donald McColeman married Jane Campbell(parents Archibald Campbell and Ann McCuaig) on April 09, 1863 Collingwood Ontario. I also believe Angus McColeman married Mary McArthur(parents Charles McArthur and Julia Campbell) on March 15, 1859 Simcoe Co. Ontario(Angus' parent's per marriage certificate listed as Peter and Ann). My Connection is through the spouses Jane Campbell and Mary McArthur. Any further confirmation on this would be great. Also any information on siblings such as marriages and immigration. Thanks, Amy Grappin Troy, Michigan

Hi, Has anyone ever asked Scotlands People if they intend to introduce a subscription service as Ancestry has done? I'm sure they would make more money continuing to charge on their 'as you go' basis (or maybe they'd make more on a subscription basis!). A subscription would sure be nice! Gay -----Original Message----- From: Dixie Cutler [mailto:cutlerd@shaw.ca] Sent: January 31, 2006 4:24 PM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Scotlands People Hi Monta, I know what you mean about scotlandspeople -- I have given up all hope of retiring comfortably ;-) Here is another way to share those entries: http://www.sctbdm.com/ I have posted quite a few and hope they may eventually help someone. Best Dixie ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm

Oban is in Kilmore and Kilbride parish OPRs available B 1782 - 1854 M 1766 - 1854 D nil Cheerio Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "J LOCHRIDGE" <j.lochridge@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Francis Kean Hello Jane, Pity you did not mention approximate dates. LDS shows there was a Francis Kean born 1861 in Kalarrow (Next to Bowmore) in 1861. father was Francis Kean, mother Elisabeth Robertson. Regards Johan Lochridge Ray K <ray_koko@hotmail.com> wrote: On various documents I have relating to one of my ancestors Francis Kean/Kane, it states that he was born in Bowmore but I can find no other records for this. I also have a document (his first childs birth certificate) which states he was born in Oban, which I thought was on the mainland. Can anyone shed any light on this? Also, does anyone know which parish Oban was in during the 19th century? thanks for any help forthcoming jane ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Click on this link for information on others researching the same families as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm

Just got this from my Tyree list....looks interesting. http://web.archive.org/web/20010813035045/www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/8997/argyllcensus.htm Enjoy, Heather _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

Hi Morag, I'm not sure I don't have the lists here with me. - I think if there were 1 major tenant, some others might not have been named. Sometimes "and others" or "Etc" were indicated. In one of the tenant lists, Dr. Crawford's name was shown on many farms, "and others". Very frustrating, I know. Toni >From: "morag.fowler" <morag.fowler@whsmithnet.co.uk> >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] 1811 Tenants >Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:21:05 -0000 > >What was the signigicance of being on the 1811 Tenant list - and what of >the men who weren't on it? >Morag > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO >CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out!

Hello Jane, Pity you did not mention approximate dates. LDS shows there was a Francis Kean born 1861 in Kalarrow (Next to Bowmore) in 1861. father was Francis Kean, mother Elisabeth Robertson. Regards Johan Lochridge Ray K <ray_koko@hotmail.com> wrote: On various documents I have relating to one of my ancestors Francis Kean/Kane, it states that he was born in Bowmore but I can find no other records for this. I also have a document (his first childs birth certificate) which states he was born in Oban, which I thought was on the mainland. Can anyone shed any light on this? Also, does anyone know which parish Oban was in during the 19th century? thanks for any help forthcoming jane ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Click on this link for information on others researching the same families as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/

On various documents I have relating to one of my ancestors Francis Kean/Kane, it states that he was born in Bowmore but I can find no other records for this. I also have a document (his first childs birth certificate) which states he was born in Oban, which I thought was on the mainland. Can anyone shed any light on this? Also, does anyone know which parish Oban was in during the 19th century? thanks for any help forthcoming jane

Hi Jane: He also had a bunch of siblings. See my website. HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ Ted Larson J LOCHRIDGE wrote: >Hello Jane, > Pity you did not mention approximate dates. LDS shows there was a Francis Kean born 1861 in Kalarrow (Next to Bowmore) in 1861. father was Francis Kean, mother Elisabeth Robertson. > Regards > Johan Lochridge > > >Ray K <ray_koko@hotmail.com> wrote: > On various documents I have relating to one of my ancestors Francis >Kean/Kane, it states that he was born in Bowmore but I can find no other >records for this. I also have a document (his first childs birth >certificate) which states he was born in Oban, which I thought was on the >mainland. Can anyone shed any light on this? Also, does anyone know which >parish Oban was in during the 19th century? > >thanks for any help forthcoming > >jane > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Click on this link for information on others researching the same families as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ > > > > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm > > >. > > >

Ah, now I understand why you all have seemed so quiet the last week or so. I will check the archives for anything I may have missed. Steffenie

Hi Heather- I think we may be able to narrow down Marion's death by a bit. The obituary for Alex McDougal, died in Arran Township, Bruce County, ONT, 1912, states that he was predeceased by a daughter, Mrs. Duncan Hunter. So that definitely puts her death prior to 1912. Also, I have long suspected that Marion and Duncan's daughter, Isabella, was orphaned at an early age as the 1881 census for Kilbride lists a Bella Hunter, granddaughter, born Glasgow, Lanark, aged 2, living with the household of Alex McDougall and Mary Campbell, but no parents by the name of Hunter. I realize that Bella may have just been living with them while her parents were working in Glasgow or elsewhere, but the fact that she also emigrated to Ontario with them seems to indicate she was already orphaned, or at least motherless. Marion is a bit of an enigma. She shows up on the 1861 Kildalton cnesus with her family at Kilbride, age listed as 18, but no earlier or later censuses (censusi?). And I've never found a record of her birth, but maybe I haven't looked in all the right places. That Marion would name her first daughter (and her parent's first grandchild) after her husband's mother rather than after her own mother makes me wonder if there may have been some estrangement between Marion and her parents. There certainly was a physical separation as Bella was born in Glasgow. Ah well, that's one of those things we'll never know unless we come across a gem of a family letter. And if there was such an estrangement, it certainly was healed or forgotten when Alex and Mary took the baby Bella into their home. Steffenie

Thanks. I don't have aol,I have Netscape. I am back on line again. My other rotsweb sign ups were still coming through. My server does not block spam. It will only indicates that it might be spam. Edward Dinniwell Jack McAllister wrote: > You may want to read this. > > http://dearmyrtle.blogspot.com/2006/01/rootsweb-mailing-list-problems-from.html > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Find out who has books and research data pertaining to Islay at the > Virtual Library: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/library.htm > > >