Dear Listers: I am looking for more information on the following Islay family: DONALD MCINTYRE b: abt 1792 Gearach, Kilchoman, Islay Married MARY MCEWEN b: abt 1800 Kilchoman, Islay. Children: ARCHIBALD MCINTYRE b: about 1821-1823 Kilchoman, Islay (my GGGrandfather) FLORY MCINTYRE b: 1 Feb 1822 Kilchoman, Islay JAMES MCINTYRE b: Aug 1830 Kilchoman, Islay NEIL MCINTYRE b: 5 Nov 1832 Kilchoman, Islay NEIL MCINTYRE married CHRISTINA MACDOUGALL b: 1836 Killarrow, Islay Their children: ANNE MCINTYRE b: 4 Nov 1866 Kilchoman, Islay JOHN MCINTYRE b: 1873 Kilchoman, Islay NEIL MCINTYRE b: 1876 Kilchoman, Islay I would like to exchange information with anyone who has connections to the above family members. Sincerely, Pam (Mack) Nixon Westland, Pennsylvania USA pnixon15378@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

Hello Sheila, Well, this is splendid news as I know something about this ship. It was one of the Reverend John Dunmore Lang's Bounty Scheme ships and indeed the good Reverend was onboard for the journey to Australia. An interesting note on the journey was that soon after they set sail there was an epidemic of measles which killed some twenty-five of the younger children. Later on there was an outbreak of scurvy. They landed in Albany (WA) where they erected a large square tent as a temporary hospital. It was placed on a piece of ground that had previously been ploughed up for a garden and left in that condition. Holes were dug in the ground for the patients to put their legs in, the earth then filled in around them up to the knees. In this position the patients sat for as many hours a day as they could. In a few days all had completely recovered though several were at the point of death. Also on board were John McIndeor (McAlister) and family. He was Unity Johnston's (Alexander's wife)older brother. As to Ardbeg - it occured to me there may be a connection. One of the trustees of Dugald's will was Colin Hay of Ardbeg - although he came after the McDougalls. Thanks very much for the information. John ----- Original Message ----- From: SKronen266@aol.com To: john.gillies@bigpond.com ; SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:55 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Johnstons of Laphroaig Hello John, Yes, Alexander Johnston went to Australia in 1837. Information which I received from Lindsay (Lin) Johnston says that he left Greenock 23 July 1837 and arrived Australia 3 Dec. 1837 (On Ship "Portland"). The "founder" Alexander may be two generations back from this Alexander (whose parents were Alexander Johnston/Mary Graham) . Information is murky for back then. I know very little about the Ardbeg Distillery. The book Scotch and Water by Neil Wilson mentions Duncan McDougall, his son John McDougall, and John's children Alexander Mcdougall (d. 1853), Margaret McDougall and Flora McDougall. I don't know where I got it from, but I have a note that Alice McDougall was born at Oa. Sheila in Belleville, Illinois, USA In a message dated 02/07/2006 9:47:29 AM, john.gillies@bigpond.com writes: Hello Sheila, Thank you for the information on Grace et al. Will keep digging and perhaps find something. I am descended from Jane Johnston - she was a paternal g grand mother. A few more questions for you. I thought at Alexander Johnston who started Laphroaig with his brother Donald, had died in 1836. But is seems he came to Australia around 1837. Is this correct or am I misreading things? Were Isabella and Alice in any way related to the MacDougall family that ran Ardbeg Distillery from 1798? Thanks also to everyone who took time and interest to reply to my query. John Gillies (Sydney)

Hi Mary- Most of m,y McDougall ancestors came to Bruce County, Ontario, but my g-grandfather split off from the others and went to Wyoming with a brother, and then ended up in Vermont. All this happened in the late 1870s and 1880s, later than your folks. I am interested in your narrative. Please tell memore. Steffenie Kirkpatrick Downingtown, PA

Does anyone know anything about this family - taken from Ted Larson's transcription of the 1841 Census of Islay? Parish Family Pg Place FName LName Sex Age Occupation Born Kilchoman 154 5 Corsabell John MacLean Male 65 Hand Loom Worker ARL Kilchoman 154 5 Corsabell Euphemia Maclean Female 60 ARL Kilchoman 154 5 Corsabell Donald Maclean Male 14 ARL Kilchoman 154 5 Corsabell John Johnson Male 7 ARL Thanks Norma Callicott

Hi All, Looking for information on my 4x great grandparents Duncan Sinclair and Isobel Currie. They married January 1793 at Bowmore or Killarrow. I am a descendant of their daughter Flora Sinclair. I'd like to find out who the parents of Duncan and Isobel were. Also if any of their siblings immigrated, and if so where to. Appreciate any help offered. Ina --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

Another interesting piece Iain -----Original Message----- From: PETER GALLIARD [mailto:peter.galliard@btinternet.com] Sent: 10 February 2006 18:47 To: SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ARGYLL] Murdo etc - the latest fromNational Archives Argyll and Bute Council Thought everyone would like to see this!!! Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Hill To: peter.galliard@btinternet.com Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: Argyll and Bute Council Dear Mrs Galliard I am replying to your email of 6 February concerning Argyll and Bute Council Archives on behalf of NAS, as the Keeper has a statutory role in the way that local authorities manage their records. More specifically, section 53 of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1994 states that local authorities should make 'proper arrangements' for their records', should not make any 'material changes' to their arrangements without consulting the Keeper and should have regard to any comments he (or she) makes. But as 'proper arrangements' have no statutory definition, these powers fall short of being able to compel a local authority to operate a professional archives service. In general terms, there is no act in Scotland that obliges local authorities to run an archives service in this way and access is therefore at the discretion of the authority concerned. In terms of the Freedom of Information Act, the ability of local archives to be classified as 'reasonably obtainable' under sec 25 of the Act may diminish if professional supervision is not available and access rights are reduced, and the records are therefore less likely to be exempt from requests under sec 1. NAS has been in touch with the Council about the situation in Argyll. The Keeper wrote to the Chief Executive at the end of January asking for assurances about Mr MacDonald's post and I also contacted his office this week to point out their duty to consult the Keeper in terms of sec 53 of the 1994 Act. We are still waiting to hear back from the Council and do need to be officially told what they are planning to do but please be assured that we shall continue to monitor the situation in Argyll and do all that we can to promote the continuation of the service. Yours sincerely Ian Hill Head of Outreach Services Branch National Archives of Scotland (0131-535 1372) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.5/256 - Release Date: 10/02/2006 ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== ***************************************************************** Scotland Free Census Search: http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

For information Iain -----Original Message----- From: PETER GALLIARD [mailto:peter.galliard@btinternet.com] Sent: 10 February 2006 18:47 To: SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ARGYLL] Murdo etc - the latest fromNational Archives Argyll and Bute Council Thought everyone would like to see this!!! Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Hill To: peter.galliard@btinternet.com Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: Argyll and Bute Council Dear Mrs Galliard I am replying to your email of 6 February concerning Argyll and Bute Council Archives on behalf of NAS, as the Keeper has a statutory role in the way that local authorities manage their records. More specifically, section 53 of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1994 states that local authorities should make 'proper arrangements' for their records', should not make any 'material changes' to their arrangements without consulting the Keeper and should have regard to any comments he (or she) makes. But as 'proper arrangements' have no statutory definition, these powers fall short of being able to compel a local authority to operate a professional archives service. In general terms, there is no act in Scotland that obliges local authorities to run an archives service in this way and access is therefore at the discretion of the authority concerned. In terms of the Freedom of Information Act, the ability of local archives to be classified as 'reasonably obtainable' under sec 25 of the Act may diminish if professional supervision is not available and access rights are reduced, and the records are therefore less likely to be exempt from requests under sec 1. NAS has been in touch with the Council about the situation in Argyll. The Keeper wrote to the Chief Executive at the end of January asking for assurances about Mr MacDonald's post and I also contacted his office this week to point out their duty to consult the Keeper in terms of sec 53 of the 1994 Act. We are still waiting to hear back from the Council and do need to be officially told what they are planning to do but please be assured that we shall continue to monitor the situation in Argyll and do all that we can to promote the continuation of the service. Yours sincerely Ian Hill Head of Outreach Services Branch National Archives of Scotland (0131-535 1372) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.5/256 - Release Date: 10/02/2006 ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== ***************************************************************** Scotland Free Census Search: http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Hi list: I am forwarding this to the list. If you use these services you may want to take some action. Ted Larson - List Administrator -------- Original Message -------- Subject: {not a subscriber} Fw: [ARGYLL] Murdo etc - the latest fromNational Archives Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:05:43 -0700 From: Les HORN <Leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk> To: Jura Rootsweb <sct-jura-l@rootsweb.com>, Tiree Rootsweb <sct-arl-tiree-l@rootsweb.com>, islay rootsweb <sct-islay-l@rootsweb.com>, Isle of Mull Rootsweb <SCT-ISLEOFMULL-L@rootsweb.com>, Argyll Rootsweb <sct-argyll-l@rootsweb.com> Hi Lists More on the saga of Murdo's non replacement by A&B Council. Les ================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "PETER GALLIARD" <peter.galliard@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:46 PM Subject: [ARGYLL] Murdo etc - the latest fromNational Archives > Argyll and Bute Council > > Thought everyone would like to see this!!! > > Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ian Hill > To: peter.galliard@btinternet.com > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:50 PM > Subject: Argyll and Bute Council > > > Dear Mrs Galliard > I am replying to your email of 6 February concerning Argyll and Bute > Council Archives on behalf of NAS, as the Keeper has a statutory role in > the way that local authorities manage their records. More specifically, > section 53 of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1994 states that local > authorities should make 'proper arrangements' for their records', should > not make any 'material changes' to their arrangements without consulting > the Keeper and should have regard to any comments he (or she) makes. > But as 'proper arrangements' have no statutory definition, these powers > fall short of being able to compel a local authority to operate a > professional archives service. In general terms, there is no act in > Scotland that obliges local authorities to run an archives service in this > way and access is therefore at the discretion of the authority concerned. > In terms of the Freedom of Information Act, the ability of local archives > to be classified as 'reasonably obtainable' under sec 25 of the Act may > diminish if professional supervision is not available and access rights > are reduced, and the records are therefore less likely to be exempt from > requests under sec 1. > NAS has been in touch with the Council about the situation in Argyll. The > Keeper wrote to the Chief Executive at the end of January asking for > assurances about Mr MacDonald's post and I also contacted his office this > week to point out their duty to consult the Keeper in terms of sec 53 of > the 1994 Act. > We are still waiting to hear back from the Council and do need to be > officially told what they are planning to do but please be assured that we > shall continue to monitor the situation in Argyll and do all that we can > to promote the continuation of the service. > Yours sincerely > Ian Hill > Head of Outreach Services Branch > National Archives of Scotland > (0131-535 1372) > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.5/256 - Release Date: 10/02/2006 > > > ==== SCT-ARGYLL Mailing List ==== > ***************************************************************** > Scotland Free Census Search: http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.5/256 - Release Date: 10/02/2006 > >

For those who would like to contact Murdo: murdo.macdonald@argyll-bute.gov.uk

How many of you have had the pleasure of receiving the excellent help of Murdo MacDonald, Argyll's Archivist at Lochgilphead? After decades of renowned service, Murdo is retiring in March and the Argyll & Bute Council does not plan to have a full time archivist afterwards. Murdo was contacted for his input: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Galliard" <anngalliard@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-ARGYLL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:31 AM Subject: [ARGYLL] Murdo and the Archives I have just spoken to the man himself, and I am even MORE disgusted with Argyll & Bute Council. Murdo was never consulted about what is proposed, and did not know about the current wave of support and compliments about the service he has provided. Murdo feels angry, upset and totally "slapped in the face" - its as though no value at all was placed on his efforts over the years, and that he was being told a part time, unqualified person could take over his work. He was greatly uplifted when I told him what is going on, and I would encourage people to write directly to thank him for any help he has given. I did ask if I could let everyone know his feelings, and Murdo agreed, but obviously found it difficult to express just how angry he is. Disgusted, furious, annoyed, angry and upset are just a few of the words this very polite and gentle man used. I hope all the letters are having some effect on this dreadful council, and the fact that the news is now in the public domain will attract more complaints! Ann Galliard Members of the Argyll list have started a letter/email campaign to try to get the Council to reconsider their short sighted intentions. Your participation is needed. If you want to write, here are some addresses: "McLellan, James" Chief Executive <James.McLellan@argyll-bute.gov.uk> "Stewart, Nigel" <Nigel.Stewart@argyll-bute.gov.uk>; "Reppke, Charles" <Charles.Reppke@argyll-bute.gov.uk> The following is a sampling from other lists and newspapers: http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=149235&command=displayContent&sourceNode=149218&contentPK=13977167&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch ARGYLL MAY AXE GENEALOGY EXPERT 07 February 2006 > > Plans to axe the full-time archivist's post at Argyll and Bute > Council have been branded a false economy. > > The council will decide at its budget meeting on Thursday whether to > replace present archivist Murdo MacDonald when he retires at the end of > next month. > > The proposal centres on leaving the archivist's post unfilled to save > £30,000 and manage the service by allocating another member of staff to > archive work just five days a fortnight. > > The planned reduction is part of £9.3million of proposed service cuts > that are needed to balance the council's books, alongside a proposed > council tax increase of 4.92%, for the new financial year. > > But at a time when interest in ancestral tourism is booming a cut to > the archive services is seen by many as a false economy as it attracts > visitors to the area. > > Mr MacDonald, who has worked for the council and its predecessor > Argyll and Bute District Council for 30 years, says he is dealing with > inquiries from all over the world. > > He said: "We have got all kinds of records here dating back to the > 17th century and we get inquiries from all over the world. E-mails and the > internet have caused a huge increase in interest in the archives. > > Mull Museum chairman Olive Brown said: ""Ancestral tourism is a big > thing now. If Argyll and Bute Council does not have an archivist, who is > going to look after all the precious records that are held at Kilmory?" > Councillor Robin Currie said: "The archivist is an important service and > it will be a great loss, especially in Argyll with our history, because > there is so much interest from all over the world from people trying to > trace their roots." ___________________________ http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=149235&command=displayContent&sourceNode=149218&contentPK=13977167&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearchMSP IN PLEA TO SAVE COUNCIL ARCHIVIST MOIRA KERR 08 February 2006 Politician Jim Mather is urging Argyll and Bute Council to ditchcost-cutting proposals which would see its full-time archivist positionscrapped when the present postholder retires next month. The Press and Journal reported yesterday that the £30,000 saving, fromnot replacing archivist Murdo MacDonald, is part of £9.3million of proposedcuts which will be discussed at the council's budget meeting tomorrow. The proposal being put before councillors is that an existing memberof council staff could be allocated to do archive work just five days afortnight, instead of employing a full time specialist. Mr Mather, MSP for the Highlands and Islands, said the suggested cutwas "an indication of the council's desperate fin! ancial position". He said he agreed that the council was not being given fair oradequate funding, from the Scottish Executive, to pay for services in anarea which has so many remote and island communities. But Mr Mather added: "That said, I agree with those who have statedtheir disquiet at the proposal not to appoint an archivist when MurdoMacDonald retires. "This is an important post in any council and of particularsignificance in Argyll and Bute because of the growth in interest fromaround the world in the records that are maintained here." ....................... As Chair of the Lochaber and North Argyll Family History Group Iam apalled at Argyll and Bute's short sightedness with regards to theburgeoning interest world- wide in Family History. Murdo has provided auseful link/resource when enquiries have been received from our 'Cousins' inthe former Colonies. Don't A&B realise that Genealogical Tourism is a moneyspinner!! Les Horn! , Onich Inverness-shire ______________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Hill To: peter.galliard@btinternet.com Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: Argyll and Bute Council Dear Mrs Galliard I am replying to your email of 6 February concerning Argyll and ButeCouncil Archives on behalf of NAS, as the Keeper has a statutory role in theway that local authorities manage their records. More specifically,section 53 of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1994 states that localauthorities should make 'proper arrangements' for their records', should not makeany 'material changes' to their arrangements without consulting the Keeperand should have regard to any comments he (or she) makes. But as 'proper arrangements' have no statutory definition, thesepowers fall short of being able to compel a local authority to operate aprofessional archives service. In general terms, there is no act in Scotland thatobliges local authorities to run! an archives service in this way and access is therefore at the discretion of the authority concerned. In terms of the Freedom of Information Act, the ability of localarchives to be classified as 'reasonably obtainable' under sec 25 of the Act may diminish if professional supervision is not available and accessrights are reduced, and the records are therefore less likely to be exempt from requests under sec 1. NAS has been in touch with the Council about the situation in Argyll.The Keeper wrote to the Chief Executive at the end of January asking for assurances about Mr MacDonald's post and I also contacted his officethis week to point out their duty to consult the Keeper in terms of sec 53of the 1994 Act. We are still waiting to hear back from the Council and do need to be officially told what they are planning to do but please be assuredthat we shall continue to monitor the situation in Argyll and do all! that wecan to promote the continuation of the service. Your s sincerely Ian Hill Head of Outreach Services Branch National Archives of Scotland (0131-535 1372)

There is some interesting information about the Johnstons and distilleries in Peat, Smoke and Spirit by Andrew Jefford, ISBN 0 7472 2735 7. To give you a taste..... Johnson - "no other family was more important that this one in the early history of distilling on Islay, since Johnstons had a hand in Lagavulin, Laphroaig, Tallant and Bowmore distilleries...." (Laphroaig)"...its founder-farmers, Donald and Alexander Johnston, who began distilling here ...between 1810 and 1816. Their father John, some sources say, had come with his two brothers Roland and Duncan to Islay for quiet refuge and a name change (from MacIan); the trio had backed the English against Bonnie Prince Charlie in 1745, and had felt it politic to leave their home on the Ardnamurchan peninsula, north of Mull, as a consequence....." It goes on to describe further family history - one Johnson who died after falling into a vat of hot still water, two died heirless and another died leaving three wills and two squabbling branches of the Johnson family. I recommend this book for anyone with family involved in the distilleries of Islay. Cheerio Sue Visser ----- Original Message ----- From: <SKronen266@aol.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Johnstons of Laphroaig Hello John, Yes, Alexander Johnston went to Australia in 1837. Information which I received from Lindsay (Lin) Johnston says that he left Greenock 23 July 1837 and arrived Australia 3 Dec. 1837 (On Ship "Portland"). The "founder" Alexander may be two generations back from this Alexander (whose parents were Alexander Johnston/Mary Graham) . Information is murky for back then. I know very little about the Ardbeg Distillery. The book Scotch and Water by Neil Wilson mentions Duncan McDougall, his son John McDougall, and John's children Alexander Mcdougall (d. 1853), Margaret McDougall and Flora McDougall. I don't know where I got it from, but I have a note that Alice McDougall was born at Oa. Sheila in Belleville, Illinois, USA In a message dated 02/07/2006 9:47:29 AM, john.gillies@bigpond.com writes: > Hello Sheila, > > Thank you for the information on Grace et al. Will keep digging and > perhaps > find something. I am descended from Jane Johnston - she was a paternal g > grand mother. > > A few more questions for you. I thought at Alexander Johnston who started > Laphroaig with his brother Donald, had died in 1836. But is seems he came > to > Australia around 1837. Is this correct or am I misreading things? > > Were Isabella and Alice in any way related to the MacDougall family that > ran > Ardbeg Distillery from 1798? > > Thanks also to everyone who took time and interest to reply to my query. > > John Gillies (Sydney) > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm

Hi Monta, I understand the parish/district numbers, but I have it in my head someone once told me that you could tell approx what month that record was entered. I remember having a list off the index and him telling me it was a waste of time looking for a May birth in several of them. Am I dreaming! My grandfather I fear led a shady life, and I have not been able to get his birth cert, so I have sort of pieced his life together from various avenues. I recently aquired a photo of him taken during his service with the Black Watch aged 16, and this has renewed my curiosity! Kind regards Ann -------Original Message------- From: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Date: 02/10/06 03:02:53 To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] RE: GROS Can you give an example of the number you are looking at and what kind of record it is? The first part of the number is the parish number. Each and every parish in Scotland is assigned a number. For example Kildalton is 541 or 0541. In a census record the next number is usually the enumeration district and the last number is the page. For example 541/003/02 would be Kildalton / enumeration district 3 / Page 3 Usually the very last numbers in births, marriages and deaths are the entry numbers for that parish or district for that year. for example 063 would be entry #63 for that particular year. Perhaps I am thinking of a different part of the number. Monta Salmon -----Original Message----- From: ann [mailto:aqtu56@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:05 PM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: GROS Just using the Scotlands People site and wondered if any of you good people would know if you can determin the actual quarter the record is in by the four figure number at the end of the reference. Ann ______________________________ ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm

Hello John, Yes, Alexander Johnston went to Australia in 1837. Information which I received from Lindsay (Lin) Johnston says that he left Greenock 23 July 1837 and arrived Australia 3 Dec. 1837 (On Ship "Portland"). The "founder" Alexander may be two generations back from this Alexander (whose parents were Alexander Johnston/Mary Graham) . Information is murky for back then. I know very little about the Ardbeg Distillery. The book Scotch and Water by Neil Wilson mentions Duncan McDougall, his son John McDougall, and John's children Alexander Mcdougall (d. 1853), Margaret McDougall and Flora McDougall. I don't know where I got it from, but I have a note that Alice McDougall was born at Oa. Sheila in Belleville, Illinois, USA In a message dated 02/07/2006 9:47:29 AM, john.gillies@bigpond.com writes: > Hello Sheila, > > Thank you for the information on Grace et al. Will keep digging and perhaps > find something. I am descended from Jane Johnston - she was a paternal g > grand mother. > > A few more questions for you.  I thought at Alexander Johnston who started > Laphroaig with his brother Donald, had died in 1836. But is seems he came to > Australia around 1837. Is this correct or am I misreading things? > > Were Isabella and Alice in any way related to the MacDougall family that ran > Ardbeg Distillery from 1798? > > Thanks also to everyone who took time and interest to reply to my query. > > John Gillies (Sydney) > > >

I think Ann is thinking of the English records system, where BD&M entries are recorded in the Quarters of the year in question. The Scottish records are simply in chronological order, and searchable on the date of the event,with the index numbers as Monta has outlined below. Iain -----Original Message----- From: David and Monta Salmon [mailto:dandmsal@telus.net] Sent: 10 February 2006 03:01 To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] RE: GROS Can you give an example of the number you are looking at and what kind of record it is? The first part of the number is the parish number. Each and every parish in Scotland is assigned a number. For example Kildalton is 541 or 0541. In a census record the next number is usually the enumeration district and the last number is the page. For example 541/003/02 would be Kildalton / enumeration district 3 / Page 3 Usually the very last numbers in births, marriages and deaths are the entry numbers for that parish or district for that year. for example 063 would be entry #63 for that particular year. Perhaps I am thinking of a different part of the number. Monta Salmon -----Original Message----- From: ann [mailto:aqtu56@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:05 PM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: GROS Just using the Scotlands People site and wondered if any of you good people would know if you can determin the actual quarter the record is in by the four figure number at the end of the reference. Ann ______________________________ ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm

Hi Darroch fans, I was in Ontario/Perth marriages today and found this stray... #009689-88 Perth County. Hugh I. Darroch,21,farmer,Minto,Minto, s/oJohn Darroch & Agnes Greenlees married Emily Gourley,17, Minto, Minto, d/o Arch. Gourley and Margret Nicholson. Witn: Flora Campbell (residence not listed) 27 Dec 1888 in Listowel, Ontario. Hope it is helpful. Heather _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

Hi Gay i am interested in your duncan mctaggart as i have a duncan mctaggart (my ggrandfatherx4) who was married to a rose ann o'hara, i have been unable to find their marriage cert but have both their death certs. Now his parents were a duncan mctaggart(farmer)and a rachel taylor and as far as i am aware they were from islay (kilmochan i think). Now Duncan and Rose Ann moved to Glasgow and had several children who all died apart from one called malcolm who was born in bowmore in islay. I have not been able to find a birth cert for duncan mctaggart but death cert in Aug 30th 1864 states duncan was aged 40 when he died. I have often wondered if Duncan was married before he married RoseAnn O,Hara. Now i have been told that ages were often wrong on death certs. the reason why i am curious is that you are unable to find details. Now someone went to the national archives for me and stated that when they tried to find information on my duncan mctaggart,s parents they drew a complete blank but did find a Malcolm McTaggart and Rachel Taylor having children , Alexander died 30th May 1858 in Kilchoma(Coulabus) died of consumption, Neil Mctaggart who was informant of alexander,s death was a brother but no other details known, another brother Malcolm was married in Islay in 1857 aged 28 to a Catherine McNiven. Several people have advised me that Duncan may have actually been a middle name but i have also drawn a complete blank. Can you tell me the names of any other McTaggart,s you have found as i am trying to connect my duncan mctaggart. jacqueline mctaggart --- Gay King <gayking@aci.on.ca> wrote: > Hi, > > Ann and Mary McTaggart were born April 27, 1839 in > Kilchoman to Duncan > McTAGGART and Mary MITCHELL. I found a marriage for > Duncan and Mary on Jan > 5, 1836, Kilchoman as well. I have also found this > family in the 1841 census > at Ballinaby, Kilchoman. > > > > I found a possible baptism for Duncan on November > 27, 1813, Kildalton, with > parents Arch McTagairt and Marion McCuaig. > > > > I have searched the archives and found mentions of > McTaggarts, but not > Duncan in particular. > > > > Does anyone have any information on or connections > to this family? > Especially to confirm whose parents Duncan's or > Marion's were? > > > > Thanks! > > Gay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest > records to 1875 visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ > > jackie ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

Can you give an example of the number you are looking at and what kind of record it is? The first part of the number is the parish number. Each and every parish in Scotland is assigned a number. For example Kildalton is 541 or 0541. In a census record the next number is usually the enumeration district and the last number is the page. For example 541/003/02 would be Kildalton / enumeration district 3 / Page 3 Usually the very last numbers in births, marriages and deaths are the entry numbers for that parish or district for that year. for example 063 would be entry #63 for that particular year. Perhaps I am thinking of a different part of the number. Monta Salmon -----Original Message----- From: ann [mailto:aqtu56@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:05 PM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: GROS Just using the Scotlands People site and wondered if any of you good people would know if you can determin the actual quarter the record is in by the four figure number at the end of the reference. Ann ______________________________

Hi Jacqueline, The information I have is that Duncan McTaggart married Mary Mitchell Jan 5, 1836 in Kilchoman. Duncan and Mary were listed as 25 in the 1841 census. They had 7 children with the first born in 1836 and the last (that I found) in 1846 so I would imagine Duncan and Mary were born about 1812-1815. The names of their children were: Archibald Esther Mary Ann Alexander Christian John Based on your information of your Duncan's children and his age at death, I don't think we are speaking of the same family. I haven't yet gone to Scotland's People in hopes of finding one of those lovely informative death certificates as I thought I would post to this most informative list! If you see a connection in the above, please let me know. Thanks, Gay

Just using the Scotlands People site and wondered if any of you good people would know if you can determin the actual quarter the record is in by the four figure number at the end of the reference. Ann

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jopie Loughead" <jopiel@sympatico.ca> To: <CAN-ONT-SIMCOE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:14 PM Subject: [C-O-S] C. E. 1923 > The Collingwood Enterprise May 24, 1923 > > Died: At Duluth, yesterday, Capt. McDOUGALD. Native of Nottawa. Builder of > the whale back type of vessel. Born at Port Ellen, Scotland, March 16, > 1845, son of Dougall and Ellen McDOUGALD. P5c7 See also May 31, p5c3