Toni, Thank you! I didn't kind what I was looking for, but, another lead eliminated helps to narrow the search. B.Cameron -----Original Message----- >From: Toni Sinclair <tonisinclair@hotmail.com> >Sent: Feb 16, 2006 8:42 AM >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLAY] 1799 Tenants List > > >Hi Brenda, >Yes, thanks to our friendly list administrator, Ted Larson, it's on his >website: > >http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/tenantlist1799/ >which I believe was transcribed from the microfilmed copy of the list. > >It is also in Freda Ramsay's book "The Daybook of Daniel Campbell of >Shawfield", which she transcribed from the original list. > >They don't match exactly, so if there is some discrepancy I'll be happy to >check the book for you. > >Toni > >>From: Brenda Cameron <bbcameron@earthlink.net> >>Reply-To: Brenda Cameron <bbcameron@earthlink.net> >>To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] 1799 Tenants List >>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:10:25 -0500 (GMT-05:00) >> >>Toni, >> >>Is the 1799 Tenants List online? If so, where is it found? >> >>B. Cameron >> >> >> >> >> >>==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >>To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 visit: >>HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ >> > >_________________________________________________________________ > >

Hi Toni and Carolyn, The McGill site is very interesting. I found several of my relatives in Nottawasaga Township. However since this information came from the county Atlases you will find only landowners and possibly tenants who paid to have their names published, so many will be missing, especially transients. I was rather surprised that my very scotch great grandfather Peter McArthur had his name published, but not a bit to find that my even more canny Yorkshire great grandfather Thomas Scott did not. Cheers, Don

Just to let y'all know about this year's Symposium Mar.17-19 at the St. Andrews Presbyterian College in Laurinberg. They always have great speakers, but of particular interest to us is Dr. Aonghus MacKechnie "a native of Islay who currently serves as Principal Inspector of Historic Buildings and Monuments (1600-1750) for Historic Scotland. He is co-author of Building a Nation: A History of Scottish Architecture. Besides his interests in architectural history, he is also a scholar of the history and lore of his native Island of Islay, carrying on in the tradition of his father who was also a noted local historian. His recent book, 'Two Islay Monuments and Two Islay People' tells the story of noted Victorian scholar James Francis Campbell, author and collector of the important four-volume collection 'Popular Tales of the West Highlands' and his mentor, and fellow collector of Islay lore, Hector MacLean. Dr. MacKechnie'spresentation will provide further insight into the stories and folklore associated with the people of the Island of Islay." As Campbell and MacLean were contemporaries of my hero, Archibald Sinclair, who went to Glasgow and became a well-known publisher of Gaelic literature, it drives me crazy that I can't go to this lecture. But I hope some of you will be able to attend. My husband and I attended one Symposium in 2002, and it was worth the 900 mile drive down there! I'm sure you'll be able to learn more about it on their website www.theargyllcolonyplus.org Toni _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

Carolyn, There's a great website that will help you locate your people called "Canadian County Digital Atlas", which will show you where they lived and can link you to the farm's place on its township map. Go to: http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/search.htm Click People, type in the last name, then hit search. Good luck. Toni >From: CH5954@aol.com >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com ..... > >Is there any way to figure out where people lived using the census (1881)? >Eldon & Mariposa are pretty broad areas. I thought maybe they lived near >Woodville but haven't been able to figure out how to work that out. > >Carolyn > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >To visit the website associated with this project, visit: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Powerful Parental Controls Let your child discover the best the Internet has to offer. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

Toni, Is the 1799 Tenants List online? If so, where is it found? B. Cameron

John Gillies, You're reply to Sheila confuses me a bit: "As to Ardbeg - it occured to me there may be a connection. One of the trustees of Dugald's will was Colin Hay of Ardbeg - although he came after the McDougalls." Do you mean that Colin Hay came to Australia after the McDougalls? In the autobiography of John Murdoch, he writes about the death of his great friend, Colin Hay of Ardbeg, who died on the 10th of February, 1899 at the Bridge of Allan, age 71. Toni > ----- Original Message ----- > From: SKronen266@aol.com > To: john.gillies@bigpond.com ; SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:55 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: Johnstons of Laphroaig > > > Hello John, > > Yes, Alexander Johnston went to Australia in 1837. Information which I >received from Lindsay (Lin) Johnston says that he left Greenock 23 July >1837 and arrived Australia 3 Dec. 1837 (On Ship "Portland"). The >"founder" Alexander may be two generations back from this Alexander (whose >parents were Alexander Johnston/Mary Graham) . Information is murky for >back then. > > I know very little about the Ardbeg Distillery. The book Scotch and >Water by Neil Wilson mentions Duncan McDougall, his son John McDougall, >and John's children Alexander Mcdougall (d. 1853), Margaret McDougall and >Flora McDougall. I don't know where I got it from, but I have a note that >Alice McDougall was born at Oa. > > Sheila in Belleville, Illinois, USA > > > > > > In a message dated 02/07/2006 9:47:29 AM, john.gillies@bigpond.com >writes: > > > > Hello Sheila, > > Thank you for the information on Grace et al. Will keep digging and >perhaps find something. I am descended from Jane Johnston - she was a >paternal g grand mother. > > A few more questions for you. I thought at Alexander Johnston who >started Laphroaig with his brother Donald, had died in 1836. But is seems >he came to Australia around 1837. Is this correct or am I misreading >things? > > Were Isabella and Alice in any way related to the MacDougall family >that ran Ardbeg Distillery from 1798? > > Thanks also to everyone who took time and interest to reply to my >query. > > John Gillies (Sydney) > > > > > > > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >To visit the website associated with this project, visit: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

Hello, Ina, Do you mean "Donald" Sinclair (not Duncan)? There was a marriage between Donald Sinclair of Gortanilvory to Isabel (Bell) Currie of Barr on the 24 January, 1793. They did have a daughter, Flory born in 1804, who later married Alex Douglas in Greenock. Same family? Donald was a grocer. Most of their children were born at Balitarsin. Their son Donald, mason, married Elizabeth Ferguson in 1838. Unfortunately, the 1799 tenant lists don't shed any light on the parents of either, so at this point, the brick wall starts here. Sorry. Toni Sinclair >From: Ina Gibbons <inagibbons@yahoo.com> >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Sinclair/Currie of Bowmore >Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 15:09:21 -0800 (PST) > >Hi All, > > Looking for information on my 4x great grandparents Duncan Sinclair and >Isobel Currie. They married January 1793 at Bowmore or Killarrow. I am a >descendant of their daughter Flora Sinclair. > > I'd like to find out who the parents of Duncan and Isobel were. Also if >any of their siblings immigrated, and if so where to. > > Appreciate any help offered. > > Ina > > >--------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

Hi Toni: Thanks for the idea. I had looked before but gave it another try. There was one McNabb & one Currie in the townships of Victoria of interest. The McNab was Irish! Neither are the correct names. My folks were supposedly living with family- yet they show up in the census some distance away from anyone with a similar name. That's why I wondered if the census could provide some insight into location. I'll play around with this some more. I'm anxious to hear from KARA. They did some more Galloway research for me- she married my Islay man- but she was probably from England. This Galloway thing has been a great mystery. She should be emailing the information any time. It's too bad you can't go to the symposium. It sounds like it would be interesting-even though my Islay folks came through Ontario, not the US originally. Thanks again for giving my query some thought! Carolyn

Hi I'm Maggie Barron. I'd love to hear about any new information you've found! How are you related? Maggie ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Monta Salmon" <dandmsal@telus.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 5:02 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McCuaig/McLeod > Would Maggie Barron who was writing the list last October about Duncan > McCuaig/McLeod and his wife Cathrine McCuaig/McLeod and his second wife Mary > McPhee please contact me. I have several questions and perhaps have found a > wee bit of new information that I could share with you. It seems as if all > my messages to you have been returned. > > Thank you > > Monta Salmon > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ > >

Would Maggie Barron who was writing the list last October about Duncan McCuaig/McLeod and his wife Cathrine McCuaig/McLeod and his second wife Mary McPhee please contact me. I have several questions and perhaps have found a wee bit of new information that I could share with you. It seems as if all my messages to you have been returned. Thank you Monta Salmon

No reason to rely on a dodgy memory when the list archives are available: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=SCT-ISLAY jim

I stayed at the Lambeth House B&B in Bowmore in June 2004 and was well satisfied with the accommodation, meals and location. Margaret will make supper if you let her know in the morning. The email address is lambethguesthouse@tiscali.co.uk Marjorie Cameron McQuay. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larson" <tlarson@usfamily.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:03 AM Subject: Need information > Here is a request from Donald Gilchrist > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: {not a subscriber} Need information > Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:30:21 -0700 > From: donald gilchrist <donald.gilchrist@sympatico.ca> > To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Hi Everyone, could you help me advise Dr. Ted Beaton on the best accommodations on the Island > for the months of Feb/March. Ted has called to say he is going, and since we rented a house when > we went the last time, for a month, I really am at a loss as where to suggest. I recall seeing a > few postings advising of great accommodation . I don't think he is looking to spend a lot so > maybe a B&B would be best. We did stay at Lochside Hotel the first time we went and it was quite > nice. If anyone can help I would really appreciate it. I miss the e-mails but just could not > keep up with them as Don and I are often away for a week or so and our machine would be jammed > on our return and family could not reach me. Hoping you have some answers . Lena Gilchrist > Donald.gilchrist@sympatico.ca > > > . > > ______________________________

Try leis gach deagh dhurachd With every good wish >From: Steffokirk@aol.com >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Off Topic - Help with Congratulations >Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:21:34 EST > >Hi all- > >I could use some input here. Our daughter Fiona is graduating high school >in June, and has requested that we, her parents, put an "ad" in her class >yearbook. She has specified that we use a certain photo of her as a wee >tot at >Threave Castle, and she said whe wanted something from Burns. So, we >chose "O >saw ye Bonnie Lesley," etc., with Lesley changed to Lassie). All we need >is >a closing. My husband Gerry says that "Slainte, Fiona!" isn't really >appropriate, and he's probably right. > >Does anyone out there have any suggestions for something in gaelic along >the >lines of "Well done!" or "Congratulations!"...? Also, how about >something >simply like, "We love you"...? > >I have a huge 24 hours to get this to the yearbook editor... > >Thanks for your help! >Steffenie (Kirkpatrick) > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm >

One small vote for "clan-kind". Bob McArtor -------Original Message------- From: Stewart, Nigel Date: 02/14/06 08:15:42 To: robertmcartor Subject: RE: archivist Dear Mr McArtor Thank you for your E-Mail with your views regarding the Archive service. Thank you for taking the time to express these and for outlining the value you place on the service. We will take account of all views in determining the future provision of what is acknowledged to be a reduced service. It is regrettable that the scale of the budgetary pressures has forced Council Services to consider cuts of this nature particularly when the service provided by Archivist has been highly regarded. Nigel Stewart From: robertmcartor [mailto:robertmcartor@verizon.net] Sent: 10 February 2006 20:57 To: Stewart, Nigel Subject: archivist Sir, of all of the comments you are liable to receive concerning your present budget problems and your rather desperate consideration to achieve needed economy by literally abandoning the post of archivist, none will come from a more ignorant communicator. As an amateur researcher of 80 years, I do, indeed, plead complete ignorance of both your present financial straits and your responsobilities. I do, however, ask that you consider the plight of those pensioners, like myself, who desperately depend on the expert research and advice of a veteran archivist to futher their work. Please ensure that no stone is unturned before closing such a valuable door to your land. Thank you, Robert C. McArtor, Scriver to Clan Arthur (Alexandria, Virginia, USA)

Hi all- I could use some input here. Our daughter Fiona is graduating high school in June, and has requested that we, her parents, put an "ad" in her class yearbook. She has specified that we use a certain photo of her as a wee tot at Threave Castle, and she said whe wanted something from Burns. So, we chose "O saw ye Bonnie Lesley," etc., with Lesley changed to Lassie). All we need is a closing. My husband Gerry says that "Slainte, Fiona!" isn't really appropriate, and he's probably right. Does anyone out there have any suggestions for something in gaelic along the lines of "Well done!" or "Congratulations!"...? Also, how about something simply like, "We love you"...? I have a huge 24 hours to get this to the yearbook editor... Thanks for your help! Steffenie (Kirkpatrick)

> Lena Have Ted Beaton try Fay MacNeill at the Inns of Bowmore. These are apartments right in the heart of Bowmore, down by the pier. Contact her at fay_macneill@yahoo.co.uk. There are two main floor units and two uppers. We were well satisfied as, I know, were others. Cheerio Helen > > Here is a request from Donald Gilchrist > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: {not a subscriber} Need information > Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:30:21 -0700 > From: donald gilchrist <donald.gilchrist@sympatico.ca> > To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To visit the website associated with this project, visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm >

Lena, We have enjoyed Lambeth House, a B&B a couple of blocks from downtown Bowmore, and it was good for friends of ours last September. Wonderful dinner meals can also be purchased there. It can be found through www.visitscotland.com Enjoy, Don

Here is a request from Donald Gilchrist -------- Original Message -------- Subject: {not a subscriber} Need information Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 20:30:21 -0700 From: donald gilchrist <donald.gilchrist@sympatico.ca> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Hi Everyone, could you help me advise Dr. Ted Beaton on the best accommodations on the Island for the months of Feb/March. Ted has called to say he is going, and since we rented a house when we went the last time, for a month, I really am at a loss as where to suggest. I recall seeing a few postings advising of great accommodation . I don't think he is looking to spend a lot so maybe a B&B would be best. We did stay at Lochside Hotel the first time we went and it was quite nice. If anyone can help I would really appreciate it. I miss the e-mails but just could not keep up with them as Don and I are often away for a week or so and our machine would be jammed on our return and family could not reach me. Hoping you have some answers . Lena Gilchrist Donald.gilchrist@sympatico.ca .

Hi Stephanie, I have done a bit of research on McDougalls from Colonsay. In what part of Bruce County did your McDougalls settle? Thank you for your interest in Come Dance With Me Following is a promo from our local paper with a few details added in red LOCAL AUTHOR COMPLETES SEVENTH BOOK Mary MacKay has completed another historical narrative about early settlement in this area. Whereas her previous six books were focused on families who immigrated from Colonsay, Scotland and are buried in Rusk's Cemetery on Sideroad Five just off Concession 10, Elderslie, this one has a more personal touch. ICome Dance With Me is based on my husbands great great grandmother who came from Islay with her grandchildren leaving behind her sons and daughters. One of the grandsons was our Hugh McKay who lived to be 90. I have woven real experiences of pioneers into his life and the lives of his children and grandchildren.It starts in Islay explaining the reason for leaving, the horrible trip over , building the house, bear stories, peddlars , Indians, Christmas and Hogmany customs, fairies and superstitions and lots more. 'COME DANCE WITH ME, A Grandmother's Tale of Pioneer Days' takes you from the adventures of a modern-day grandmother with her grandchildren, back one hundred and fifty-seven years into the lives of their pioneer ancestors who immigrated to Canada from Islay, Scotland. As you listen to their conversations and share in their activities, you become a part of the family. You will shed a tear and share a smile with Catharina, the pioneer grandmother, who came to this country at seventy-six years of age. Your heart aches when her grandson Hugh and his wife, Agnes, bury all three of their daughters. The grandparent/grandchild relationship returns when Hugh and Agnes undertake the care of their four-year-old granddaughter, and again when Hugh, in his ninetieth year, shares his memories and stories about hobgoblins from Islay with his young grandsons. 'COME DANCE WITH ME' is a fascinating story of pioneer days brought to life with many pictures and very real experiences. This two hundred-and-sixteen-page book bound with a coloured cover would make a great gift for anyone who enjoys reading historical narrative. To get your copy contact the author. The cost is $20 plus postage. Postage in Canada is $2.50 If you wish you can just drop a cheque in the mail. If it is more convenient to pay in U.S. funds the difference in the money will likely cover the extra postage. Mary MacKay Box 16 Paisley ON Canada N0G2N0

Hi Norma: In 1851 it looks like John may have passed away and what was left and living at Smaul was Euphemia 70, and grandson John 18. John was born in Glasgow. Ted Norma Callicott wrote: >Does anyone know anything about this family - taken from Ted Larson's transcription of the 1841 Census of Islay? > >Parish Family Pg Place FName LName Sex Age Occupation Born > Kilchoman 154 5 Corsabell John MacLean Male 65 Hand Loom Worker ARL > Kilchoman 154 5 Corsabell Euphemia Maclean Female 60 ARL > Kilchoman 154 5 Corsabell Donald Maclean Male 14 ARL > Kilchoman 154 5 Corsabell John Johnson Male 7 ARL > > > >Thanks >Norma Callicott > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >You can find older, archived messages from this mailing list by visiting: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/archive1.htm - and from April 1999, you can access archived messages at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCT-ISLAY > > >. > > >