I have to report that Scotlands People have now got all the Census Records on line and this is a great resource. Had great success with Kildalton in 1851, 61, 71 & 81. Unfortunately the 1891 and 1901 Census did not have my Campbell & McDougall people recorded on Islay, but they were searchable. Found that the Marion McDougall that I found years ago living alone at Shenighart as a 50 yr. old labourer was not my gr. gr. grandmother after all, as my Marion had relocated to Paisley to be with family. Thoroughly reccommend the money spent as worthwhile. Celia.

FAO Celia Geary Celia, I see we share family surnames in our research of Islay and wonder if we are distantly related? My Great Grandmother was Annabella McDougall of Kildalton, Islay who married Neil Campbell from Tiree and my grandfather was their son John McDougall Campbell who married Margaret Nairn Oliver(although she was born in USA the family returned to Scotland about 1900) The following report from my software shows the relationships I have between Campbells and McDougalls, does anything match with your research? Regards Iain Campbell Tullibody, Scotland -------------------------------------------- 1 Alexander McDougall 1750 - b: Abt. 1750 . +Anne McKerroll 1750 - b: Abt. 1750 ........ 2 Alexander McDougall 1778 - 1873 b: 1778 ............ +Jane McDonald 1792 - 1862 b: 1792 ................... 3 Ann McDougall 1820 - 1893 b: 1820 in Kildalton Parish Islay ....................... +Duncan McArthur - 1923 ................... *2nd Husband of Ann McDougall: ....................... +Dugald McDougall 1802 - 1856 b: 1802 in Kildalton Parish Islay .............................. 4 Murdoch McDougall 1837 - b: 30 Nov 1837 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 Margaret McDougall 1840 - b: 12 Apr 1840 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 Jane McDougall 1848 - b: 15 Mar 1848 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 Mary McDougall 1848 - b: 15 Mar 1848 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .................................. +Murdock MacDonald .............................. 4 Ann McDougall 1854 - b: 21 May 1854 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 John McDougall 1854 - b: 21 May 1854 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 Meran McDougall 1854 - b: 21 May 1854 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 Annabella McDougall 1855 - 1923 b: 15 Aug 1855 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .................................. +Neil Campbell 1853 - b: 1853 in Tyree, Argyll, Scotland ......................................... 5 Anniejane Campbell 1877 - 1938 b: 1877 in Largs, Ayr, Scotland ............................................. +George Rankin 1882 - b: 1882 .................................................... 6 George kin - 1924 .................................................... 6 Malcolm Rankin .................................................... 6 Frank Rankin ......................................... 5 Neil McDougall Campbell 1879 - 1910 b: 1879 in Largs, Ayr, Scotland ......................................... 5 Murdoch McDougall Campbell 1880 - 1898 b: Apr 1880 in Largs, Ayr, Scotland (Entry No.29) ......................................... 5 Malcolm Campbell 1884 - b: Abt. 1884 in Rothsay, Bute ............................................. +Lillie XXXX .................................................... 6 Nk Campbell .................................................... 6 N/K Campbell ......................................... 5 Dugald McDougall Campbell 1886 - 1916 b: 06 Jan 1886 in Rothsay, Bute ......................................... 5 Mary Flora Campbell 1888 - b: 1888 in Rothsay, Bute ............................................. +Xxxx Young ......................................... 5 John McDougall Campbell 1889 - 1947 b: 21 Apr 1889 in Govan , Glasgow ............................................. +Margaret Nairn Oliver 1894 - 1978 b: 28 Dec 1894 in Two Harbours , Minnassota, USA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "celiageary" <celia_geary@infogen.net.nz> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Census Records >I have to report that Scotlands People have now got all the Census Records >on line and this is a great resource. Had great success with Kildalton in >1851, 61, 71 & 81. Unfortunately the 1891 and 1901 Census did not have my >Campbell & McDougall people recorded on Islay, but they were searchable. >Found that the Marion McDougall that I found years ago living alone at >Shenighart as a 50 yr. old labourer was not my gr. gr. grandmother after >all, as my Marion had relocated to Paisley to be with family. Thoroughly >reccommend the money spent as worthwhile. Celia. > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO > CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm > >

Hi Pat My email to you has been returned with 'fatal errors'. Please contact me Sue

Yes,that's how my original e-mail to the list was headed -----Original Message----- From: Dean Gilchrist [mailto:deanotow1@earthlink.net] Sent: 12 March 2006 20:42 To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] the Mouse Wheel A bit off topic, don't you think? ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== You can find older, archived messages from this mailing list by visiting: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/archive1.htm - and from April 1999, you can access archived messages at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCT-ISLAY

A bit off topic, don't you think?

Les My mouse has a wheel. When I twirl it and depress the control key, nothing happens. I am using Windows 98. What next? Malcolm ********** Les HORN wrote: > Malcolm asked : > > > So how does one get to the mouse wheel? merely hitting the control key > > does nothing. > > It sounds as though he has an old style mouse with only a left and right > button. The wheel is between these on later versions. > > Best Wishes > Les > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm

Ken wrote: > Not true! Most of them still work and, as before, most of them are > quicker and easier than the mouse commands (and much better > ergonomically). Agreed - but how many computer users know what DOS is let alone what it was before MS Windows - remember the Sinclair ZX or the Commodore. As I said "... we're all cocooned by the Windows interface" Best Wishes Les

Malcolm asked : > So how does one get to the mouse wheel? merely hitting the control key > does nothing. It sounds as though he has an old style mouse with only a left and right button. The wheel is between these on later versions. Best Wishes Les

Hi Les So how does one get to the mouse wheel? meerly hitting the contrlo key does nothing. Thanks, Malcolm ********** Les HORN wrote: > Hi Listers > > Just picked up this very useful tip from the Lanarkshire List via the Islay > List. Thanks to Ian MacIntosh for passing it on. > > Since we're all cocooned by the Windows interface these days we tend to > forget about the keyboard shortcuts we aging Listers all used with DOS > before Microsoft. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Elizabeth Csanig [mailto:wehc@sprint.ca] > > Sent: 11 March 2006 06:44 > > To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [LKS] Re: Mouse Wheel Computer Tip!! > > > > Dear Fellow Listers > > > > The mouse wheel is great when you are reading documents on a site, or ones > > already downloaded on your computer. Again, just press Ctrl and roll the > > wheel and it will magnify them for easier reading. A kind lady on another > > list told me this a long time ago, before I had a wheel mouse and I > > promptly > > bought one thereafter! > > > > Kind regards > > > > Elizabeth > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Find out who has books and research data pertaining to Islay at the Virtual Library: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/library.htm

Hi Listers Just picked up this very useful tip from the Lanarkshire List via the Islay List. Thanks to Ian MacIntosh for passing it on. Since we're all cocooned by the Windows interface these days we tend to forget about the keyboard shortcuts we aging Listers all used with DOS before Microsoft. > -----Original Message----- > From: Elizabeth Csanig [mailto:wehc@sprint.ca] > Sent: 11 March 2006 06:44 > To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [LKS] Re: Mouse Wheel Computer Tip!! > > Dear Fellow Listers > > The mouse wheel is great when you are reading documents on a site, or ones > already downloaded on your computer. Again, just press Ctrl and roll the > wheel and it will magnify them for easier reading. A kind lady on another > list told me this a long time ago, before I had a wheel mouse and I > promptly > bought one thereafter! > > Kind regards > > Elizabeth

In a message dated 11/03/2006 3:58:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, Leshorn@ythanonich.freeserve.co.uk writes: > Since we're all cocooned by the Windows interface these days we tend to > forget about the keyboard shortcuts we aging Listers all used with DOS > before Microsoft. Not true! Most of them still work and, as before, most of them are quicker and easier than the mouse commands (and much better ergonomically). I always know when I have been using my mouse too much - I get a terrible painful knot in the muscles of my upper back. If I go back to using the old keyboard tricks and only use the mouse when absolutely necessary the pain goes away. As an example, I received and read this original message without touching the mouse, then selected the segment above and composed this reply, and now will send it, all without touching the mouse. I use Windows XP, and have maintained my use of the keyboard shortcuts through about 6 "upgrades" of operating systems, starting with DOS well over 20 years ago. When taking a few courses at different times during the 90s, instructors informed the classes that the old tricks were no longer possible. I interrupted the instructors, demonstrated that (most of them) still worked, to the amazement of the instructors. I think it was a "plot" to indoctrinate the instructors that one had to use the mouse, and then send them out to infect the rest of us. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GREAVES Yorkshire > London GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. Africa SPENCE Orkney FOTHERINGHAM Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire > Dumbarton > Glasgow > Australia (Vic) MORRISON Islay > Ontario BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk > Yorkshire AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannanshire > Ontario McNABB Islay > Ontario MURRAY Dumfries > Renfrew SINCLAIR Perthshire > Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries + Lanark CALDWELL Tyrone > Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone > Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission.

An interesting tip for saving the aging eyes Iain -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Csanig [mailto:wehc@sprint.ca] Sent: 11 March 2006 06:44 To: LANARK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LKS] Re: Mouse Wheel Computer Tip!! Dear Fellow Listers The mouse wheel is great when you are reading documents on a site, or ones already downloaded on your computer. Again, just press Ctrl and roll the wheel and it will magnify them for easier reading. A kind lady on another list told me this a long time ago, before I had a wheel mouse and I promptly bought one thereafter! Kind regards Elizabeth ==== LANARK Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe from DigestMode Lanark-D-Request@rootsweb.com put word unsubscribe in subject line

Hi Listers I am trying to find the parents of Cathrine Hunter who married William Reid 7 Mar 1846. Children Mary, Duncan, Janet, Hugh, Cathrine and Marrion. William died in 1867. I haven't found his family on the 1871 census in Scotland nor can I find Cathrine's death registration. But I can find a Catharine Reid who is a widow in Nassagaweya, Halton, Ontario, Canada on the Canadian 1881 census with children Janet, Mary and Hugh. I am not sure it is them but you have to wonder. There is a death for a Catharine Reid in 1886 in Nassagaweya, Halton. She is a widow, age 86 and born in Islay. Again I wonder. Does anyone know for sure? Does anyone have any clues as to who her parents are? Monta Salmon

Yes, well, there has been a couple of wonderings on the subject of long standing English families moving to Islay and why would they do that and how could it be . . . Well, well, well, I don't know the answer, but let me tell you that the island is hoaching with English families at the present. They have come from down south of the border and bought up all the property and soon it will be a very different flavour to this island that you will experience when you come over. Neffer you mind all those romantic notions of staying in a wee croft where your old seanair maybe did or maybe didn't stay. Yes, yes, there is a very different colour and sound to the whole place coming - you mark my words. Right enough, a lot of them are nice people, but different, you know. Not celtic. No Islay connections. Just want out the rat race and so they come and push up all the house prices till no Ileach can afford them. And what with the global warming and the Atlantic turning just like the Mediterranean . . . then the sunseekers will be crowding the machair and Bogh Mhor will be swarming with tourists. Och, yes, all change. I can feel it in my old bones. Suas leis a'Ghaidhlig Tioraidh, SM ann <aqtu56@dsl.pipex.com> wrote: Hi Paul, I have also been wondering why a long standing Yorkshire family would move to Islay. What did Herman do for a living in Yorkshire? Having been on Scotlands People the last few days, I took a look for Eric today and Johan is correct, it has to be him I also searched on the surname in Kildalton and remember seeing 1 Dawson who had died aged 88 years. Scotlands people has deaths up to 1955. I would think this is your only record you would get from here as all the others will be too new.........if you get my drift. I would write directly to the Parish Priest, (or all of them around Kildalton!) you will find most of them quite accomodating if you are prepared to wait for them to get back to you. As you know the dates of their deaths it will not be a case of them searching through years of records. I am about to go back on SP site so I will have a dig around for you and if I have enough credits I will pull off the Eric record. If you e-mail me direct aqtu56@dsl.pipex.com save clogging the list with chit chat, I will mail you any findings. Bye for now Ann (Wales) ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== You can find older, archived messages from this mailing list by visiting: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/archive1.htm - and from April 1999, you can access archived messages at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCT-ISLAY --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo.

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Try the White Pages of the Telephone book which should be 'On-Line' for Islay. It is for other places in the UK. Celia.

Thanks Ted - the 1859 version sounds the better bet. I thought I would just get a copy from Scotlandspeople but it does not seem to be registered. I tried variances in timing (1855-65) and age (80-90) but no luck. County Argyll - all districts. Am I missing something? Any thoughts? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larson" <tlarson@usfamily.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] John McKay d port Charlotte 10 Dec 1861 > Hi John: > The Donald Martin was probably born to Neil Martin and Isabella McKay in > 1849. According to the birth records John and Margaret did not have a > daughter Isabella. John and Margaret (Peggy) were listed in the 1841 > census as being 65 and 60 years old and in the 1851 census as being 78 and > 76 years old. There was another John McKay 20 Dec 1859 as reported by son > Alexander. He was listed as being 88 years old. I think he is more > likely your John. See > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ > Ted Larson > > John Shaw wrote: > >>I am researching John McKay who married Margaret Calder abt 1811 in >>Kildalton. Children were Janet - Martha - Flora - Dougald - Alex >>I have downloaded a death cert from S/people showing a John McKay who died >>Port Charlotte Kilchoman 10 Dec 1861. It describes him as a pauper and >>widower. Age 75. Parents Hugh McKay and Isabella Johnson. But no name of >>late wife. Informant was Donald Martin - grandson. >>Are any of you good people able to confirm this is - or indeed is not - my >>John McKay. >>Thanks, >> >>John Shaw >> >> >>==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >>To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 >>visit: >>HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ >> >> >>. >> >> > > ______________________________ >

In reply to my > You will be pleased to know that the 1851 Census is now on-line on the > ScotlandsPeople Site. Sheila said > could you please put the URL to get there? Im just ending up at > Ancestory.com Whoops ! - http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Best Wishes Les

Seann, I heartily agree with Sue. I daresay virtually everyone on the Islay list either has or wants to visit Islay sometime. One of the stumbling blocks is the cost of accomodation - most of the self-catering options are only economical for groups of several people. Knowing about accomodation owned by someone who shares an interest in family history (and at a reasonable price) is definitely 'on topic' in my opinion. In this case 'advertising' is not a dirty word - it is sharing information that we would have a difficult time finding out otherwise. Russ McGillivray >From: "Sue Visser" <genealgal2@execulink.com> >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Holiday Cottages Bowmore >Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 10:48:21 -0500 > >Hi Seann > >I don't remember who had the original post but I don't think it was meant >specificially as an advert - at least I didn't take it that way. While it >was off the topic of genealogy, I interpreted it as a 'heads up'. There >are >a number of people on the list who are related to people who owned/worked >at >Islay distilleries so the opportunity to stay in a cottage that they >perhaps >had lived in might be considered a special experience. The distilleries >are >very much intertwined with Islay's history. > >There have been requests from folks planning their first Islay visit who >need to know about accommodations and we have shared our experiences - >which >is something quite different from advertising a personal property. > >Cheerio >Sue Visser > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "seann mhaighdean" <seannmhaighdean@yahoo.co.uk> >To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:49 AM >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Holiday Cottages Bowmore > > >And whilst I am on this thing - how comes the Bowmore Distillery gets free >advertising on this list? > > Does this mean we can all advertise our own wee holiday cottages as >well? > > Let me know if any of yous are interested in the real Islay experience. > > all the best to yous, > S.M. > > > >--------------------------------- >Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm > > > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 visit: >HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ >

I apologize to the list for my previous email. I thought I was only sending it to Seann. Cory Smith