Hi Dee RE: > My g.g.grandmother,Mary McNeill came from Kindrachat, Parish of > Kilchoman. She married Donald Gillespie, from Kilnave, in 1833. They > imagrated to Ontario in abt. 1847. Does anyone know these folks or > where Kindrachat was or is? Any help would be greatly appreciated. They went to Simcoe Co, Ontario, Nottawasaga Twp. > > Dee Kieffaber I do have some McNeills in my tree but they are mostly connected distantly by marriage and there isn't a Mary McNeill. Much of my information on the McNeills has come through Betsy via Ian. Betsy McNeill, age 90, lives in Portnahaven and has a great memory. Iain MacIntosh iain.macintosh@bigfoot.com on the Islay list is the one to contact since he's been working hard to document her memories and he might be able to help you. Is this your family in Kilchoman Parish 1841 Islay Census Kilnave Gilespie Donald M 30 Gilespie Mary F 25 Gilespie Mary F 7 Gilespie John M 4 Gilespie Anne F 3 Campbell Mary F 12 Please note that this is from a transcription and that it should be used as a tool and not fact. You should look at the original microfilm to verify. Also note that there are other Gillespie families at Kilnave. According to the transcription, there is only 1 McNeil family in Kilchoman Parish in 1841. They may or may not be related to your Mary. There are more McNeills just miles south in Portnahaven Parish. Gearrach MacNiel Niel M 35 MacNiel Janet F 35 MacNiel Alex M 30 MacNiel Donald M 25 MacNiel Duncan M 12 MacNiel Angus M 11 MacNiel Niel M 10 MacNiel John M 9 MacNiel Ann M 7 MacNiel Janet F 2 MacNiel Effy F 2mths MacEachern Niel M 12 MacIntyre Margaret F 15 I do not see a birth for Mary McNeill b c1816 in Ted's OPR transcriptions http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/. Neither do I see a marriage for Mary and Donald Gillespie. Cheerio Sue

What has amazed me about the explosion of genealogy interest especially in the past 10 years is how many of our seniors have started from scratch on the computer in order to do their family trees. One lady on Islay started the computer at age 89. I personally have given lessons to 2 people in their 80s and a couple of youngsters in their 70s. For every person who has tackled the daunting task of learning the computer from scratch in order to do their genealogy, I yell BRAVO!! I know it might be frustrating for some who have oodles of experience when someone asks what seems to you to be a dumb question, especially an off topic question. Personally I think the only dumb question is the one not asked. What sets the Islay list apart from most other gen lists is that we become friends. We help one another even if we are not related to the specific family another person is researching. It seems natural to ask friends off topic questions. We all come from varied backgrounds with differing levels of education and experience. A little kindness and patience doesn't cost us a thing. In fairness, I agree that off topic threads can sometimes get out of hand. Personally, in future, I will try to be more consistent to answer off list when answering off topic questions that aren't genealogically or Islay related. Of course, there's still that magic button....if an off topic thread really irks you, then just "delete". Cheerio Sue

Hi, Would anyone know if there is available online, or anywhere else, a passenger list for the Albion of Glasgow which brought 181 Islay people to Quebec in 1832? Thanks very much. Gay

Well, now that was simple...thank you laurel

Hi Sue, Thank you for your quick response. I use Outlook Express 6 and changing the Text Size to 'smallest' (using 'view' & 'text size') changed the size of the print on my screen. (I had also previously changed the size on the screen back to the normal font size (12) by using the wheel.) The problem seems to be in priniting. The print comes out at font size 12 for the heading only but the body of message prints at what looks like size 18. Is this happening to anyone else??? Doug Young ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Visser" <genealgal2@execulink.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] off topic > Are you talking in Outlook Express Ian? If so, go to View, then Text Size > and choose. > Cheerio > Sue > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian McEachern" <mceachern@wn.com.au> > To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:19 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] off topic > > > I know it is off topic, but being able to enlarge is usefull for those who > may have poor eyesight. My query is -how do you revert back to normal size > print? > Ian > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO > CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm > > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 > visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ > >

Hi Dee Kindrochid, as it appears on modern maps, was/is a farm north of Loch Gorm. There are various spellings such as Ceandrochait or Keandrochead. Kindrochid is about 4-5 kilometres west and slightly south of Kilnave which is on the west shore of Loch Gruinart. You can download an interactive placenames of Islay map at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maps/simon/simon.htm Interestingly enough my McCannel family was also from Kindrochid and emigrated to Ontario in 1847. Where did your family settle? Cheerio Sue Visser ----- Original Message ----- From: <dkieffaber@kc.rr.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:41 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Kindrachat Hello, My g.g.grandmother,Mary McNeill came from Kindrachat, Parish of Kilchoman. She married Donald Gillespie, from Kilnave, in 1833. They imagrated to Ontario in abt. 1847. Does anyone know these folks or where Kindrachat was or is? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dee Kieffaber ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm

Hi, If you mean the Control - Mouse Wheel thing; You hold the control down and move the mouse wheel forward to make the print the size you want. Regards Gord

Good question. Somebody PLEASE answer. Doug Young ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian McEachern" <mceachern@wn.com.au> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:19 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] off topic >I know it is off topic, but being able to enlarge is usefull for those who >may have poor eyesight. My query is -how do you revert back to normal size >print? > Ian > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO > CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm > >

Hi Sue, They went to Simcoe Co, Ontario, Nottawasaga Twp. Do you have any McNeill's in your family? ----- Original Message ----- From: Sue Visser <genealgal2@execulink.com> Date: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:21 pm Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Kindrachat To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Hi Dee > > Kindrochid, as it appears on modern maps, was/is a farm north of > Loch Gorm. > There are various spellings such as Ceandrochait or Keandrochead. > Kindrochid is about 4-5 kilometres west and slightly south of > Kilnave which > is on the west shore of Loch Gruinart. > > You can download an interactive placenames of Islay map at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maps/simon/simon.htm > > Interestingly enough my McCannel family was also from Kindrochid > and > emigrated to Ontario in 1847. Where did your family settle? > > Cheerio > Sue Visser > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <dkieffaber@kc.rr.com> > To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 6:41 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Kindrachat > > > Hello, > > My g.g.grandmother,Mary McNeill came from Kindrachat, Parish of > Kilchoman. She married Donald Gillespie, from Kilnave, in 1833. They > imagrated to Ontario in abt. 1847. Does anyone know these folks or > where Kindrachat was or is? Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Dee Kieffaber > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - > HOW TO CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm >

Are you talking in Outlook Express Ian? If so, go to View, then Text Size and choose. Cheerio Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian McEachern" <mceachern@wn.com.au> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:19 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] off topic I know it is off topic, but being able to enlarge is usefull for those who may have poor eyesight. My query is -how do you revert back to normal size print? Ian ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm

Hello, My g.g.grandmother,Mary McNeill came from Kindrachat, Parish of Kilchoman. She married Donald Gillespie, from Kilnave, in 1833. They imagrated to Ontario in abt. 1847. Does anyone know these folks or where Kindrachat was or is? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dee Kieffaber

Hi List: Does anyone have a listing of the passengers on the ship Donegal which, I believe, brought Scots to Canada in August 1834. Ted Larson

I think there is a tenuous relationship but not close. I will revisit this when I return as I am off to look after grandchildren for a week. Celia.

I have John Campbell on the 1851 census as the grandfather of Margaret and Ann McDougall at Frederick Crescent, Kildalton. The girls were 12 and 10 respectively. Their mother Isabella Campbell married Alexander McDougall. He died when the chilren were little and maybe Isabella had died or remarried. They also show up on the 1861 Census with John Campbell being 77. He does not appear on the 1871 census. Celia.

List Members, My husband Arnold and myself will be attending the Scottish Heritage Symposium at St. Andrews Presbyterian College in Laurinburg, NC this week-end. Is there anyone else on the list that plans to attend? They have a number of interesting speakers on the program. One in particular is Dr. Aonghus MacKechnie who is a native of Islay and currently serves as Principal Inspector of Historic Buildings and Monuments (1600-1750) for Historic Scotland. The topic of his presentation, " The Traditions and Lore of the Island of Islay and the West Highlands as Collected by John Francis Campbell and Hector MacLean". Would like to meet other list members if you plan to attend. Phyllis Beachum --- Phyllis Beachum --- abeachum2@earthlink.net --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.

I know it is off topic, but being able to enlarge is usefull for those who may have poor eyesight. My query is -how do you revert back to normal size print? Ian

Iain Can you (or others on the list) tell me any more about Anne McKerroll? I don't have her on my database of Islay McKerrells. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Iain Campbell [mailto:iain.campbell2@tesco.net] Sent: 15 March 2006 09:32 To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Campbell-McDougalls Islay FAO Celia Geary Celia, I see we share family surnames in our research of Islay and wonder if we are distantly related? My Great Grandmother was Annabella McDougall of Kildalton, Islay who married Neil Campbell from Tiree and my grandfather was their son John McDougall Campbell who married Margaret Nairn Oliver(although she was born in USA the family returned to Scotland about 1900) The following report from my software shows the relationships I have between Campbells and McDougalls, does anything match with your research? Regards Iain Campbell Tullibody, Scotland - ------------------------------------------ 1 Alexander McDougall 1750 - b: Abt. 1750 . +Anne McKerroll 1750 - b: Abt. 1750 ........ 2 Alexander McDougall 1778 - 1873 b: 1778 ............ +Jane McDonald 1792 - 1862 b: 1792 ................... 3 Ann McDougall 1820 - 1893 b: 1820 in Kildalton Parish Islay ....................... +Duncan McArthur - 1923 ................... *2nd Husband of Ann McDougall: ....................... +Dugald McDougall 1802 - 1856 b: 1802 in Kildalton Parish Islay .............................. 4 Murdoch McDougall 1837 - b: 30 Nov 1837 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 Margaret McDougall 1840 - b: 12 Apr 1840 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 Jane McDougall 1848 - b: 15 Mar 1848 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 Mary McDougall 1848 - b: 15 Mar 1848 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .................................. +Murdock MacDonald .............................. 4 Ann McDougall 1854 - b: 21 May 1854 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 John McDougall 1854 - b: 21 May 1854 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 Meran McDougall 1854 - b: 21 May 1854 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .............................. 4 Annabella McDougall 1855 - 1923 b: 15 Aug 1855 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland .................................. +Neil Campbell 1853 - b: 1853 in Tyree, Argyll, Scotland ......................................... 5 Anniejane Campbell 1877 - 1938 b: 1877 in Largs, Ayr, Scotland ............................................. +George Rankin 1882 - b: 1882 .................................................... 6 George kin - 1924 .................................................... 6 Malcolm Rankin .................................................... 6 Frank Rankin ......................................... 5 Neil McDougall Campbell 1879 - 1910 b: 1879 in Largs, Ayr, Scotland ......................................... 5 Murdoch McDougall Campbell 1880 - 1898 b: Apr 1880 in Largs, Ayr, Scotland (Entry No.29) ......................................... 5 Malcolm Campbell 1884 - b: Abt. 1884 in Rothsay, Bute ............................................. +Lillie XXXX .................................................... 6 Nk Campbell .................................................... 6 N/K Campbell ......................................... 5 Dugald McDougall Campbell 1886 - 1916 b: 06 Jan 1886 in Rothsay, Bute ......................................... 5 Mary Flora Campbell 1888 - b: 1888 in Rothsay, Bute ............................................. +Xxxx Young ......................................... 5 John McDougall Campbell 1889 - 1947 b: 21 Apr 1889 in Govan , Glasgow ............................................. +Margaret Nairn Oliver 1894 - 1978 b: 28 Dec 1894 in Two Harbours , Minnassota, USA - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "celiageary" <celia_geary@infogen.net.nz> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:50 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Census Records >I have to report that Scotlands People have now got all the Census Records >on line and this is a great resource. Had great success with Kildalton in >1851, 61, 71 & 81. Unfortunately the 1891 and 1901 Census did not have my >Campbell & McDougall people recorded on Islay, but they were searchable. >Found that the Marion McDougall that I found years ago living alone at >Shenighart as a 50 yr. old labourer was not my gr. gr. grandmother after >all, as my Marion had relocated to Paisley to be with family. Thoroughly >reccommend the money spent as worthwhile. Celia. > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO > CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm > > ______________________________

Hi Listers: I was going over my saved mail from the last couple of years looking for something and found references to this booklet. I just wondered if we covered everyone who was listed in the booklet before? I read the messages I'd saved and I couldn't tell. I can't find it on a google search to be able to read. You know who I'm looking for...McNabb's & Currie's. How big is the booklet? Is there an index? Thanks!! Carolyn- in Springfield IL - we're still trying to get power in some areas of town- I'm so glad my section of town was spared the tornadoes!

Hi Gay: I'm still having my e-mails returned with the same message even although I've changed to Yahoo mail. Am I the only one having difficulty getting through to you? Your message came to me ok. Regards Janet __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Iain and Celia As I look over your names it peeked my interest They are all the same names as our family use ...Just wondering if these McDougalls mean anything to you ......Our Ronald Neven was born in Killarrow parish ..... ; Ronald Neven McDougall 1786 Wife Flora McCallum 1789... 1 Donald 1827 2. James 1830 3 Flora 1830 4. Alex 1831 5. Colon 1832 6. Mary 1833 -----------------Schedule No. Killarrow 14/7/2. ----------------- .1841 Census registers Ronald McDougall aged 50, Agricultural labourer married to Mary McDougall and resident at Bun an Uillt. House Schedule No. Killarrow 14/7/2. ------------------------------------------------- and in 1851 Ronald is still there with some of the chidden and his wife is called Mary I have always been in a state of confusion over this woman's name because she seems to be the same person ... The grandchildren seemed to be confused too because it states Mary on her tombstone but her granddaughter declared she was Flora .. so we now call her Mary Flora ... or do we have 2 different families here ... ?????? Jean Hutchinson mjhutch@bmts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Campbell" <iain.campbell2@tesco.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:31 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Campbell-McDougalls Islay > FAO Celia Geary > > Celia, > > I see we share family surnames in our research of Islay and wonder if we are > distantly related? > My Great Grandmother was Annabella McDougall of Kildalton, Islay who married > Neil Campbell from Tiree and my grandfather was their son John McDougall > Campbell who married Margaret Nairn Oliver(although she was born in USA the > family returned to Scotland about 1900) > The following report from my software shows the relationships I have between > Campbells and McDougalls, does anything match with your research? > > Regards Iain Campbell > Tullibody, Scotland > -------------------------------------------- > 1 Alexander McDougall 1750 - b: Abt. 1750 > > . +Anne McKerroll 1750 - b: Abt. 1750 > > ........ 2 Alexander McDougall 1778 - 1873 b: 1778 > > ............ +Jane McDonald 1792 - 1862 b: 1792 > > ................... 3 Ann McDougall 1820 - 1893 b: 1820 in > Kildalton Parish Islay > > ....................... +Duncan McArthur - 1923 > > ................... *2nd Husband of Ann McDougall: > > ....................... +Dugald McDougall 1802 - 1856 b: 1802 > in Kildalton Parish Islay > > .............................. 4 Murdoch McDougall 1837 - > b: 30 Nov 1837 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland > > .............................. 4 Margaret McDougall 1840 - > b: 12 Apr 1840 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland > > .............................. 4 Jane McDougall 1848 - b: > 15 Mar 1848 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland > > .............................. 4 Mary McDougall 1848 - b: > 15 Mar 1848 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland > > .................................. +Murdock MacDonald > > .............................. 4 Ann McDougall 1854 - b: > 21 May 1854 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland > > .............................. 4 John McDougall 1854 - b: > 21 May 1854 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland > > .............................. 4 Meran McDougall 1854 - > b: 21 May 1854 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland > > .............................. 4 Annabella McDougall > 1855 - 1923 b: 15 Aug 1855 in Islay, Argyll, Scotland > > .................................. +Neil Campbell 1853 - b: 1853 in > Tyree, Argyll, Scotland > > ......................................... 5 Anniejane Campbell > 1877 - 1938 b: 1877 in Largs, Ayr, Scotland > > ............................................. +George Rankin 1882 - > b: 1882 > > .................................................... 6 George > kin - 1924 > > .................................................... 6 Malcolm > Rankin > > .................................................... 6 Frank Rankin > > ......................................... 5 Neil McDougall > Campbell 1879 - 1910 b: 1879 in Largs, Ayr, Scotland > > ......................................... 5 Murdoch McDougall > Campbell 1880 - 1898 b: Apr 1880 in Largs, Ayr, Scotland (Entry No.29) > > ......................................... 5 Malcolm Campbell > 1884 - b: Abt. 1884 in Rothsay, Bute > > ............................................. +Lillie XXXX > > .................................................... 6 Nk Campbell > > .................................................... 6 N/K Campbell > > ......................................... 5 Dugald McDougall > Campbell 1886 - 1916 b: 06 Jan 1886 in Rothsay, Bute > > ......................................... 5 Mary Flora Campbell > 1888 - b: 1888 in Rothsay, Bute > > ............................................. +Xxxx Young > > ......................................... 5 John McDougall > Campbell 1889 - 1947 b: 21 Apr 1889 in Govan , Glasgow > > ............................................. +Margaret Nairn Oliver > 1894 - 1978 b: 28 Dec 1894 in Two Harbours , Minnassota, USA > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "celiageary" <celia_geary@infogen.net.nz> > To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:50 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Census Records > > > >I have to report that Scotlands People have now got all the Census Records > >on line and this is a great resource. Had great success with Kildalton in > >1851, 61, 71 & 81. Unfortunately the 1891 and 1901 Census did not have my > >Campbell & McDougall people recorded on Islay, but they were searchable. > >Found that the Marion McDougall that I found years ago living alone at > >Shenighart as a 50 yr. old labourer was not my gr. gr. grandmother after > >all, as my Marion had relocated to Paisley to be with family. Thoroughly > >reccommend the money spent as worthwhile. Celia. > > > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > > FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO > > CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm > > > > > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > You can find older, archived messages from this mailing list by visiting: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/archive1.htm - and from April 1999, you can access archived messages at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCT-ISLAY > >