Hi Buela Mildred Eleanor MacMillan, a McMillan family historian wrote a book about her family tree. Eleanor MacMillan was the great grand daughter of Duncan McMillan and Margaret Cumming. In her book "Family Memories", she states that McMillan's came to Canada in October, 1832. She only mentions that Duncan, Margaret and toddler's John and Colin made the voyage. She also states that she didn't know the name of the ship, but it may have been sponsored by Lord Selkirk. One of the possible reasons for going to St. Louis de Gonzaque, was probably to be closer to Margaret's parents and siblings, who were already in St. Louis de Gonzaque. The Cumming's made the trip in 1831. The Cumming's show up on the 1831 census for St. Louis, but the McMillan's do not. Another piece of information is the 1901 census for Ormstown, Quebec. On the 1901 census, John states he came to Canada in 1831. If it was in 1831, then it was most probably after the census. (taken in the spring) According to Scots Origins, both Colin and John were born in Kilcalomel and Kilberry, Argyll. Regards Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Milne" <buela8@shaw.ca> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 10:29 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McMillan in Canada > Does anyone have an idea where I could find a record of the arrival in > Canada of Duncan McMillan, wife Margaret Cummin, sons John and Colin. > Lived > in Lagavulin, arrived in Canada 1830- 1832. Took up land in Quebec, St. > Louis de Gonzague. > > > > Buela > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information > about Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm >
Hi there listers, I wonder if anyone with Gilchrist links, has a link to a David Gilchrist b approx 1795 in Kilmarnock, married a Janet Andrew in 1827 also in/from Kilmarnock? All thoughts gratefully received Regards Neil MacCuaig
> While I'm at it, does anyone have the naming convention handy? Might give me a clue to earlier generations. The first son was named after the father's father The second son was named after the mother's father The third son was named after the father The fourth son was named after the father's eldest brother The first daughter after the mother's mother The second daughter after the father's mother The third daughter after the mother The fourth daughter after the mother's eldest sister Be aware though that the naming pattern was not a hard and fast rule. Cheerio Sue Visser
> Sorry to but in here - not related - but I've never heard of Janet and > Margaret being interchangeable. Has anyone else? Sue - you are certainly not butting in here. Your comments are always appreciated. Perhaps I'm clutching at straws or as Ted says, middle names may have been used. I have 7 MacPhersons born in the late 1700's at Carabus. The youngest was my gg grandfather that married into Stephanie's Johnston family and I've been able to trace. There doesn't seem to be any trace of the other 6 at least with their Christened names. And I can't see the family emmigrating and leaving the youngest behind. So that makes me wonder about middle or other names. For example, one of the missing was christened Gilchris MacPherson. I've never seen "Gilchris" being used as a first name. While I'm at it, does anyone have the naming convention handy? Might give me a clue to earlier generations. Grant
Hi Sue, I have one Margaret Sinclair who was also called Janet. I have copies of correspondence from her grandchildren arguing about her name. My 2¢ worth. Toni >From: "Sue Visser" <genealgal2@execulink.com> >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Darrach/MacPherson >Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:19:21 -0500 > >Sorry to but in here - not related - but I've never heard of Janet and >Margaret being interchangeable. Has anyone else? >Sue > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <gmacpher@stardate.bc.ca> >To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:55 PM >Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Darrach/MacPherson > > >Hi Janet > > > Do you have any Darrach's in your line. We think my 3 rd Great > > Grandfather was the son of Neil Darrach and Janet McPherson of > Islay. > >I have that marriage (1799) in my notes but I haven't been >able to establish a connection. I stand to be corrected on this but I >believe Janet and Margaret are interchangeable. My line includes a >Margaret MacPherson, daughter of John and Catharine McIntaggart >baptised 1783 so she could have been born a number of years >earlier. I've wondered if your Janet and my Margaret were the same >people but that's as far as I've got. > >Grant > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm > > > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Click on this link for information on others researching the same families >as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ > _________________________________________________________________ Take advantage of powerful junk e-mail filters built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.
Hi Grant, Sue and Toni- Toni and I had this same discussion a few years ago, when I was having trouble identifying the parents of my g-g-g-grandfather Colin Campbell of Mulindry. Based on the traditional naming sequence, his parents would have been a John and a Margaret, but I found a very good fit with a John and a Janet. I asked the list if the names were ever interchangeable and Toni replied that she had had a problem with a Janet Sinclair and a Margaret Sinclair married to the same man, and finally concluded that they were the same person and that Janet was used interchangebly with Margaret. So there you are for what our 4 cents is worth! Steffenie
Hi List: I think what we may be missing is that some of the Scots had middle names which were not necessarily recorded in the birth or census records. The OPR recorded first name of my gg grandmother was Euphemia and she appeared in all records as Jannet. Margaret and Janet are not usually considered interchangeable. Janet, Jane and Jean seem to be and Margaret goes to Maggie, to Peggy etc. Ted Toni Sinclair wrote: > > Hi Sue, > I have one Margaret Sinclair who was also called Janet. I have copies > of correspondence from her grandchildren arguing about her name. > My 2¢ worth. > Toni > >> From: "Sue Visser" <genealgal2@execulink.com> >> Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >> To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Darrach/MacPherson >> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 21:19:21 -0500 >> >> Sorry to but in here - not related - but I've never heard of Janet and >> Margaret being interchangeable. Has anyone else? >> Sue >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <gmacpher@stardate.bc.ca> >> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:55 PM >> Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Darrach/MacPherson >> >> >> Hi Janet >> >> > Do you have any Darrach's in your line. We think my 3 rd Great >> > Grandfather was the son of Neil Darrach and Janet McPherson of > >> Islay. >> >> I have that marriage (1799) in my notes but I haven't been >> able to establish a connection. I stand to be corrected on this but I >> believe Janet and Margaret are interchangeable. My line includes a >> Margaret MacPherson, daughter of John and Catharine McIntaggart >> baptised 1783 so she could have been born a number of years >> earlier. I've wondered if your Janet and my Margaret were the same >> people but that's as far as I've got. >> >> Grant >> >> >> = > >
Hullo Alasdair Heads Draftsmen in drawing offices used to draw plans with indian ink on starched linen. It was a pale bluish grey. This would be a semi transparent original called a 'tracing'. You could wash it out and have a piece of white linen. Copies could be made from this called 'blueprints'. The final image would be white on a mid or pale blue background. The process involved exposing a light sensitive coated paper to a carbon arc lamp which put out a high ultra violet light with the tracing in between. The print paper would then be run through a liquid or gas containing ammonia (I think) which would turn the exposed area blue and leave the drawn image as white. A later process used 'dyeline' paper which gave a black image on white paper and now Xerox type photocopiers are used with paper on a wide roll. I think your 'young Neil' might have worked in a dimly lit room adjoining a drawing office as a 'blue printer' and breathing in the gases. Bob Campbell in Brisbane, Aust.
Sorry to but in here - not related - but I've never heard of Janet and Margaret being interchangeable. Has anyone else? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <gmacpher@stardate.bc.ca> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Darrach/MacPherson Hi Janet > Do you have any Darrach's in your line. We think my 3 rd Great > Grandfather was the son of Neil Darrach and Janet McPherson of > Islay. I have that marriage (1799) in my notes but I haven't been able to establish a connection. I stand to be corrected on this but I believe Janet and Margaret are interchangeable. My line includes a Margaret MacPherson, daughter of John and Catharine McIntaggart baptised 1783 so she could have been born a number of years earlier. I've wondered if your Janet and my Margaret were the same people but that's as far as I've got. Grant ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm
Does anyone have an idea where I could find a record of the arrival in Canada of Duncan McMillan, wife Margaret Cummin, sons John and Colin. Lived in Lagavulin, arrived in Canada 1830- 1832. Took up land in Quebec, St. Louis de Gonzague. Buela
Hi Janet > Do you have any Darrach's in your line. We think my 3 rd Great > Grandfather was the son of Neil Darrach and Janet McPherson of > Islay. I have that marriage (1799) in my notes but I haven't been able to establish a connection. I stand to be corrected on this but I believe Janet and Margaret are interchangeable. My line includes a Margaret MacPherson, daughter of John and Catharine McIntaggart baptised 1783 so she could have been born a number of years earlier. I've wondered if your Janet and my Margaret were the same people but that's as far as I've got. Grant
Hey Mike! Thanks for your email address! It will come in handy next year! Any refund will be appreciated - especially as I am planing a gtip to Scotland in September - as we talked about in our phone conversataion! My trip to Excotland iwill br strtictly to look aup dead relatives! I hope you and your family are alll well! ----- Original Message ----- From: <KenHarrison11@cs.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:41 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Head Family - once they're in america... > In a message dated 31/03/2006 7:20:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, > al_heads@yahoo.com writes: >> William F arrived 15.11.1887 on the Furnessia from >> Glasgow >> and his wife, daughter Janet and son Niel(sp) arrived >> 15.5.1888 on the Circassia > > Just a point of curiosity: my great-grandparents sailed on the Circassia > (Circassion?) from Liverpool to Quebec in 1880. > > Ken Harrison > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm > >
In a message dated 31/03/2006 7:20:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, al_heads@yahoo.com writes: > William F arrived 15.11.1887 on the Furnessia from > Glasgow > and his wife, daughter Janet and son Niel(sp) arrived > 15.5.1888 on the Circassia Just a point of curiosity: my great-grandparents sailed on the Circassia (Circassion?) from Liverpool to Quebec in 1880. Ken Harrison
Grant, Do you have any Darrach's in your line. We think my 3 rd Great Grandfather was the son of Neil Darrach and Janet McPherson of Islay. Ann Borgman
Lynn, thanks very much for what you've given me, it all fits nicely with what I already have. Neil Head b1863 is the elder brother of William Ferguson Head b1865. Got them both on the 1881 scottish census as mill workers aged 16& 17. Both being sons of Neil b1817 Persabus' 2nd marriage. It seems when old Neil died (1883), his family started to move across to New York. William F arrived 15.11.1887 on the Furnessia from Glasgow and his wife, daughter Janet and son Niel(sp) arrived 15.5.1888 on the Circassia suspected young Neil (on the Campania 1896), and are sure about his widow Agnes, daughter Agnes and possibly granddaughter Sarah (all 3 arrive on the Furnessia in 1894) William's wife is Maggie/Margaret Corbett m 1885 Johnstone, Scotland. Daughter of Samuel Corbett and Euphemia Spence. And there's part of the problem with the 1904 group of passengers, they're returning from a visit to Johnstone, (where possibly 2 other Head sisters remained?) but the names and ages don't exactly fit with anyone I know of. Shame it seems to be dead(ish) end when there was a lovely NY address. However, you've addded the American born Agnes to my list, as well as giving me a wife for Neil 1863 thanks a lot. --- Lynn Seamark <Lmseamark@newhudson.com> wrote: > In 1900 found a Neil Head, born Dec 1863, Scotland, > in Plainfield N.J. > married to Margaret, born April 1866 - no children > and > William F. Head, March 1865, born Scot, imm 1887 > Margaret Oct 1861,born Scot (7 of 8 children) > Janet July 1885,born Scot > Neil April 1887,born Scot > Agnes March 1889, born N.J. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
In 1900 found a Neil Head, born Dec 1863, Scotland, in Plainfield N.J. married to Margaret, born April 1866 - no children -----Original Message----- From: Alasdair Heads [mailto:al_heads@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:27 AM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] once they're in america... what's the best way to find more info? It looks like some of my family emigrated to New York about the turn of last century. The Ellis island records have Scotch US citizens Anne Head, Neil, Mary and ?Nin arriving in October 1904 on return tickets. They're going to husband D Head's home at 520 West 51st in New York. My problem is that I don't believe it shound be D Head - how do I check US records (without having to pay massively to ancestry.com?) Y'see I think they could be family of Neil (misspelt as Niel) Head that Ellis Island lists as arriving in 1896 on the Campania aged 30. Sadly Ellis Isle's link to the original manifest is'nt right. Any help appreciated PS in 1904 young Neil has his occupation as Blue printer?? ideas
I'm not doing very well on finding them. I went back to the Ellis Island record to look for more clues. I believe that the husband is F. Head - not D. Head. The letter is written the same way as the "F" in Female for each passenger. So far (using soundex and variation of spellings) In 1900 - I found one family in Manhattan NY and it doesn't match very well - I'll keep looking William F. Head, March 1865, born Scot, imm 1887 Margaret Oct 1861,born Scot (7 of 8 children) Janet July 1885,born Scot Neil April 1887,born Scot Agnes March 1889, born N.J. -----Original Message----- From: Alasdair Heads [mailto:al_heads@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:27 AM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] once they're in america... what's the best way to find more info? It looks like some of my family emigrated to New York about the turn of last century. The Ellis island records have Scotch US citizens Anne Head, Neil, Mary and ?Nin arriving in October 1904 on return tickets. They're going to husband D Head's home at 520 West 51st in New York. My problem is that I don't believe it shound be D Head - how do I check US records (without having to pay massively to ancestry.com?) Y'see I think they could be family of Neil (misspelt as Niel) Head that Ellis Island lists as arriving in 1896 on the Campania aged 30. Sadly Ellis Isle's link to the original manifest is'nt right. Any help appreciated PS in 1904 young Neil has his occupation as Blue printer?? ideas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm
Hi Marilyn. Do not know if this helps you or not but when looking in Mariposa for my wife's McDonald family (who farmed near Manilla) I found them buried in NcNeil Cemetery near Wick - 2nd Concession Brock Township just over the border from Mariposa - their Church was in Sonya. Good luck in your Cemetery searching, Doug Young ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Hoyte" <mhoyte@sasktel.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Cemeteries Mariposa Township > Hi Ted, > > Sorry, neither family are found in Mariposa cemeteries. > > Marilynj > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward Dinniwell" <dinniwell@mountaincable.net> > To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:05 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Cemeteries Mariposa Township > > >> Any Badgley's listed or Joseph Haight and wife Bessie. >> Thanks Ted >> >> Marilyn Hoyte wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> I have the transcriptions of 14 Mariposa Township cemeteries on loan for >>> about a week, if anyone would like me to do a look-up. >>> >>> Marilyn Hoyte >>> >>> ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >>> Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: >>> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >> To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 >> visit: >> HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 >> >> > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Find out who has books and research data pertaining to Islay at the > Virtual Library: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/library.htm > >
thanks. Ted Marilyn Hoyte wrote: > Hi Ted, > > Sorry, neither family are found in Mariposa cemeteries. > > Marilynj > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Dinniwell" > <dinniwell@mountaincable.net> > To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:05 PM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Cemeteries Mariposa Township > > >> Any Badgley's listed or Joseph Haight and wife Bessie. >> Thanks Ted >> >> Marilyn Hoyte wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> I have the transcriptions of 14 Mariposa Township cemeteries on loan >>> for about a week, if anyone would like me to do a look-up. >>> >>> Marilyn Hoyte >>> >>> ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >>> Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: >>> http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >> To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 >> visit: >> HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 >> >> > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Find out who has books and research data pertaining to Islay at the > Virtual Library: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/library.htm > > >
Thanks Doug, and that brings back memories - we used to be around that area in the summer and made many a drive thru Sonya, stopping at Manilla for an ice cream cone! Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Young" <d.m.young@earthlink.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Cemeteries Mariposa Township > Hi Marilyn. > > Do not know if this helps you or not but when looking in Mariposa for > my wife's McDonald family (who farmed near Manilla) I found them buried in > NcNeil Cemetery near Wick - 2nd Concession Brock Township just over the > border from Mariposa - their Church was in Sonya. > > Good luck in your Cemetery searching, > > Doug Young