Yours came through. Maybe everyone is just getting gardens ready for spring? > Has the SCT-ISLAY website shut down? I have not received any info for a > couple of weeks. > > > > Evelyn > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ >

Has the SCT-ISLAY website shut down? I have not received any info for a couple of weeks. Evelyn

Hi Sue, Yes I do agree with you that the distilleries had a lot of influence with the people of Islay. My family was very much involved with Laphroaig and Lugavullin Distilleries. It was only in the 1950's that Laphroaig distillery was the end of the family ownership. But you can read more about it on the Islay site. Regards Basil from South Africa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Visser" <genealgal2@execulink.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Holiday Cottages Bowmore > Hi Seann > > I don't remember who had the original post but I don't think it was meant > specificially as an advert - at least I didn't take it that way. While it > was off the topic of genealogy, I interpreted it as a 'heads up'. There > are > a number of people on the list who are related to people who owned/worked > at > Islay distilleries so the opportunity to stay in a cottage that they > perhaps > had lived in might be considered a special experience. The distilleries > are > very much intertwined with Islay's history. > > There have been requests from folks planning their first Islay visit who > need to know about accommodations and we have shared our experiences - > which > is something quite different from advertising a personal property. > > Cheerio > Sue Visser > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "seann mhaighdean" <seannmhaighdean@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:49 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Holiday Cottages Bowmore > > > And whilst I am on this thing - how comes the Bowmore Distillery gets free > advertising on this list? > > Does this mean we can all advertise our own wee holiday cottages as well? > > Let me know if any of yous are interested in the real Islay experience. > > all the best to yous, > S.M. > > > > --------------------------------- > Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm > > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 > visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ > >

Thanks Doug and Sue for that link. Heather _________________________________________________________________ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

Hi Heather Maybe this site is the one you want to bookmark http://www.geneofun.on.ca/ontariolocator/ No Hagisville listed - Hagersville seems the likely area to search. Cheerio Sue Visser ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Schenck" <heatherschenck@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Colin McDougall & Rachel Dick-old Ontario maps Hi, According to the Wyoming library site that Sharon recommened, Rachel was born Sep 22 1851 in Hagisville, Ontario. I cannot locate this place. I am wondering if they meant Hagersville in Haldiman County. Could someone check their old map sites (which I did not bookmark)......for Hagisville's location. Many thanks, Heather _________________________________________________________________ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== To visit the website associated with this project, visit: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm

Heather, I did a search on Hagerville in the old Ontario Atlas and found a George Dick on VIII Lot 22, Hagersville, Haldiman/WalpoleCounty, Ontario, in 1879. Since her parents were George Dick and Margaret Thomas I'd say your no doubt correct in your assumption. Sharon Huber ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Schenck" <heatherschenck@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Colin McDougall & Rachel Dick-old Ontario maps > Thanks Doug and Sue for that link. > > Heather > > _________________________________________________________________ > Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special > stationery, fonts and colors. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines > Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the > first two months FREE*. > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To visit the website associated with this project, visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm >

Hi, According to the Wyoming library site that Sharon recommened, Rachel was born Sep 22 1851 in Hagisville, Ontario. I cannot locate this place. I am wondering if they meant Hagersville in Haldiman County. Could someone check their old map sites (which I did not bookmark)......for Hagisville's location. Many thanks, Heather _________________________________________________________________ MSN® Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

Dear Louise: Hadn't heard of this before. Hopefully some folks on Islay will see this note and consider applying for a grant- maybe even sooner. The gathering on Islay in 2004 was certainly great fun and educational too. I'm sure the organizers did many hours of work to make it come together. I hope some folks will be interested again. It probably helped the local economy in a noticeable way since so many of us stayed there a few days, ate, shopped etc. Ontario in 2005 was also very memorable! I hope to come up to visit again- but having organized speakers and getting to see everyone makes it so much more interesting! Carolyn

Hi Celia: I'm not related to the Browns. I just found the info on them in the Eldon Connections and thought it might be worth letting you know of their existence. Happy hunting Janet, Ontario celiageary <celia_geary@infogen.net.nz> wrote: Strange (or not so strange)that the Brown family that I'm researching on Islay has similar first names. I have:- Donald Brown bpt.1799 Islay Hugh Brown bpt. 1807 Islay. These boys had sisters Catherine and Marion. Both the sisters married on Islay. What happened to Hugh and Donald I haven't discovered. Whether there were other children in the family is uncertain as it was very difficult to find these ones. Their parents were Finlay Brown and Florence McCormack(various spellings). Is this the Hugh who remained on Islay belonging to your family? Did my Donald emigrate to Canada? Celia. ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Click on this link for information on others researching the same families as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ --------------------------------- Have a question? Yahoo! Canada Answers. Go to Yahoo! Canada Answers

Hi Carolyn, About your question: >2009 seems a long ways away. I imagine there won't be any actual details for a couple of years?< There is an article in Scottish Snippets this week that mentions how plans are already afoot in Scotland for events culminating in 2009. One of the crucial reasons that planning starts so early for major events like this is the long lead time necessary in applying for and obtaining government grants to fund large projects. (In the link below, see item about the regeneration of Burns National Heritage Park -- 2009 marks the 250th Anniversary of the birth of Robbie Burns. There is also an item about the Mull and Tiree 2006 Gatherings.) I do know that the Tiree Homecoming 2006 got it's first grant in 2004 (for a feasibility study) and then I believe received two more grants, one for a Project Manager and another for an exhibition of Tiree Emigration to be mounted by the Tiree Archive. So certainly 2006 is not too early for Islay to begin investigating the possibility of a 2009 Homecoming. Of course, though, I expect this would have to be initiated by the Islay local community, not the Diaspora. See Scottish Snippets #470, April 15, 2006. http://www.RampantScotland.com/letter.htm By the way, if you are not familiar with the Snippets newsletter, let me recommend it to you as a real gem. Each week is brimming with little items from Scotland’s Current Affairs, Historical Affairs, Culture, Sport, Weather and always some eye-catching photos of local flowers and scenery. Enjoy! Louise MacDougall Vancouver Island, BC Canada -----Original Message----- From: CH5954@aol.com [mailto:CH5954@aol.com] Sent: April 14, 2006 7:04 AM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] 2009 Heads up In sunny Springfield, Carolyn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.4/319 - Release Date: 19/04/2006

Sharon, Thanks for the info and trail to Wyoming. Never been there in person or over the web! The library link sounds fab. Heather _________________________________________________________________ Scan and help eliminate destructive viruses from your inbound and outbound e-mail and attachments. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.

I believe I will help more of folks who have Islay family who went to the state of Wyoming to live, rather than try to contact each of you separately. I did a search on Wyoming History. My results included a link to GoWYLD! Guide to Wyoming History. Then I chose Wyoming Biography Database Search under Wyoming History. This takes you to the searchable database in the University of Wyoming Library. Part way down the page is a toggle swithch labled Begin Search. The next screen will take you to the place to enter the name, geographical location or date that you want to research. You might be amazed by the results. This is how I found out about my family members who lived in Wyoming. I knew the name and author of the book(s) I wanted to find before I went to the place to the my research. Have fun. Sharon Huber Bellingham, Washington Islay Names I'm Researching: McLarty, McCallum, Morrison

According to the 1910 U.S. Cenus for Laramie County, Wyoming, Collin is married to Rachel. It is a first marriage to each. Their children Katherine, a teacher, and Henry C. were still living at home. Rachel had given birth to four children and all were living as of 1910. They are neighbor's of my relatives, Dugald and Annie (Lawson) McCallum. Sharon Huber ----- Original Message ----- From: <Steffokirk@aol.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Colin McDougall & Rachel Dick > Hiya Heather- > > Wasn't Rachel John's first wife? I suspect she's somewhere in Wyoming. > I've got lots on Colin and descendents; they all stayed in Wyoming, and later > some headed for Colorado. Probably won't be able to get to sending it to you > until the weekend. > > Cousin Steff > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ >

Hi Steffenie, Just grabbed this from my file and saw it was still blank..Do you think they are both buried in Wheatland Wyoming ? Or tackle this from Rachel's end? Ihave some free time coming up, so I thiought I might do some looking. Heather _________________________________________________________________ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out!

Hiya Heather- Wasn't Rachel John's first wife? I suspect she's somewhere in Wyoming. I've got lots on Colin and descendents; they all stayed in Wyoming, and later some headed for Colorado. Probably won't be able to get to sending it to you until the weekend. Cousin Steff

Strange (or not so strange)that the Brown family that I'm researching on Islay has similar first names. I have:- Donald Brown bpt.1799 Islay Hugh Brown bpt. 1807 Islay. These boys had sisters Catherine and Marion. Both the sisters married on Islay. What happened to Hugh and Donald I haven't discovered. Whether there were other children in the family is uncertain as it was very difficult to find these ones. Their parents were Finlay Brown and Florence McCormack(various spellings). Is this the Hugh who remained on Islay belonging to your family? Did my Donald emigrate to Canada? Celia.

Hi Cheri: I don't know if this is the same family you are looking for but you never know):- From: Eldon Connection by Rae Fleming. The Browns originated in Islay, Argyllshire. There were once five brothers; one (either Philip or Hugh) remained in Scotland, while the other four emigrated to Cape Bretton Island. One of the four brothers, either Philip or Hugh, remained in Cape Breton, while the other three came to Georgina. These three brothers were John (1795-1877), Donald (1798-1886) and Duncan (1813-1878. The Eldon Brown's are descendants of Donald Brown, who married Catherine Sinclair Regards Janet, Ontario Cheri Westra <cheriwestra@sympatico.ca> wrote: Hi Sue, Thanks for looking! It may be that Margaret's parents never came to Canada. She may have immigrated and stayed with a brother or uncle etc. for a short period before she married and moved to Whitchurch. Since she married in the Presbyterian church in Canada I looked for other possible relatives. In 1870 a Duncan Brown (possible nephew or cousin) from Egremont aged 28 married Ann Bell (both from Scotland but married in Mount Forest). Duncan's parents were listed as Archibald & Sarah Brown. Archibald could be Margaret's brother? Does anyone know about this family and their relatives. Is this Archibald the son of Duncan and Mary Turner? Cheri -----Original Message----- From: Sue Visser [mailto:genealgal2@execulink.com] Sent: April 13, 2006 1:08 PM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Hi Cheri There are 2 volumes of "While We Still Remember", a history plus an update of Egremont Township, Grey Co, Ontario. According to the family histories included, there were 3 Brown families in Egremont - two had Marys. One Mary Brown family emigrated from Ireland and the other from England. There isn't a Duncan Brown listed with any of these families. I checked the Grey Co 1851 Census index. In 1851 your Margaret would be abt 22 yrs old....the only Margaret Browns listed, born SCT, are ages 33, 40, 35, 14....and only the 35 yr old Margaret is living in Egremont. Sorry that help isn't forthcoming from this end. Cheerio Sue Visser Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheri Westra" To: Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] I'm trying to find the family of my gg grandmother Margaret Brown born on the Isle of Scotland August 1829. I have found her 1858 Toronto Presbyterian marriage record which shows her residence as Egremont. She married a Monkman from York and they settled on a farm in Whitchurch (Yonge & Bloomington Sideroad). The marriage record lists her father as Duncan and no name is given for her mother (maybe dead by this time?). I have located a Duncan Brown on a Directory for Grey (1865). It may be her father if still alive or another relative. A 1841 Census for Portnahaven has a Duncan Brown + Mary Turner (Married 1824 in Kilchoman Argyll). Margaret age 11 Donald 13 Marion 9 (married on Islay in 1857) Helen 7 John 5 Archibald 3 It is possible that this is Margaret's family but I saw the same record on a different site and the age 11 female was listed as Mary not Margaret. This Margaret or Mary was born in March not August according to birth records. Does anyone know if this family came to Canada? Another possibility is the following birth record found in the Kilmeny Baptisms. Margaret Brown Aug. 24 1829. Mother: Margaret McVoran. Father:NL Brown. Would NL mean Not Legible? This seems to be a closer match. I can't find anymore information on this family and no records for other children. Maybe Margaret McVoran died and Duncan remarried or maybe they left Islay shortly after Margaret's birth. Baptism record from 1829 for this Margaret shows they are from Baliharvie. The 1828 tenants list has a Duncan Brown at Balliharry - are they the same place? There is no Baliharvie on the list at this time. When I go back to 1811 there is a Angus Brown at Ballihavie and no Balliharry on the list. Any info concerning what Browns came to Egremont or Grey County would be appreciated. Cheri ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information about Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information about Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Here are some links related to the Isle of Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/links.htm --------------------------------- Make free worldwide PC-to-PC calls. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger with Voice

Hi Sue, Thanks for looking! It may be that Margaret's parents never came to Canada. She may have immigrated and stayed with a brother or uncle etc. for a short period before she married and moved to Whitchurch. Since she married in the Presbyterian church in Canada I looked for other possible relatives. In 1870 a Duncan Brown (possible nephew or cousin) from Egremont aged 28 married Ann Bell (both from Scotland but married in Mount Forest). Duncan's parents were listed as Archibald & Sarah Brown. Archibald could be Margaret's brother? Does anyone know about this family and their relatives. Is this Archibald the son of Duncan and Mary Turner? Cheri -----Original Message----- From: Sue Visser [mailto:genealgal2@execulink.com] Sent: April 13, 2006 1:08 PM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Hi Cheri There are 2 volumes of "While We Still Remember", a history plus an update of Egremont Township, Grey Co, Ontario. According to the family histories included, there were 3 Brown families in Egremont - two had Marys. One Mary Brown family emigrated from Ireland and the other from England. There isn't a Duncan Brown listed with any of these families. I checked the Grey Co 1851 Census index. In 1851 your Margaret would be abt 22 yrs old....the only Margaret Browns listed, born SCT, are ages 33, 40, 35, 14....and only the 35 yr old Margaret is living in Egremont. Sorry that help isn't forthcoming from this end. Cheerio Sue Visser Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheri Westra" <cheriwestra@sympatico.ca> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] I'm trying to find the family of my gg grandmother Margaret Brown born on the Isle of Scotland August 1829. I have found her 1858 Toronto Presbyterian marriage record which shows her residence as Egremont. She married a Monkman from York and they settled on a farm in Whitchurch (Yonge & Bloomington Sideroad). The marriage record lists her father as Duncan and no name is given for her mother (maybe dead by this time?). I have located a Duncan Brown on a Directory for Grey (1865). It may be her father if still alive or another relative. A 1841 Census for Portnahaven has a Duncan Brown + Mary Turner (Married 1824 in Kilchoman Argyll). Margaret age 11 Donald 13 Marion 9 (married on Islay in 1857) Helen 7 John 5 Archibald 3 It is possible that this is Margaret's family but I saw the same record on a different site and the age 11 female was listed as Mary not Margaret. This Margaret or Mary was born in March not August according to birth records. Does anyone know if this family came to Canada? Another possibility is the following birth record found in the Kilmeny Baptisms. Margaret Brown Aug. 24 1829. Mother: Margaret McVoran. Father:NL Brown. Would NL mean Not Legible? This seems to be a closer match. I can't find anymore information on this family and no records for other children. Maybe Margaret McVoran died and Duncan remarried or maybe they left Islay shortly after Margaret's birth. Baptism record from 1829 for this Margaret shows they are from Baliharvie. The 1828 tenants list has a Duncan Brown at Balliharry - are they the same place? There is no Baliharvie on the list at this time. When I go back to 1811 there is a Angus Brown at Ballihavie and no Balliharry on the list. Any info concerning what Browns came to Egremont or Grey County would be appreciated. Cheri ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information about Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information about Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm

I think you're right. My William McDougall named his farm in NZ. Dunollie/Dunollie after the ancestral site at Oban but his connection to it is lost in the mists of time. This Dunollie became the name for the surrounding district. There is another Dunollie/ in NZ in the South Is. which I have not been able to source the name for as yet. Celia.