You might find that the families that these two women worked for, also emigrated to Tasmania and that they were servants who travelled with them. There were also Emigration schemes abounding at that time which encouraged young women over 21 to emigrate to the colonies as servants. Female servants were very difficult to retain as there were far more men than women in the colonies and they kept getting snapped up for marriage. Most ships did leave from Gravesend, London for all ports overseas, only a minority left from Glasgow. Celia from NZ.

Hi folks, I was wondering if any of you who are tracing Jamiesons know anything about Sarah/Marion Jamieson who married John Sinclair 25 April, 1788? I 'think' she was the daughter of William J. and Betty Sweet, baptised 4 June, 1788, but not positive. Again, I think she might have died on Islay before the rest of the Sinclair family of 6 sons and 2 daughters emigrated to Wellington Co., Ontario some time in the 1840s. John's gravestone is found in Bethel cemetery, no mention of his wife. I wonder if any of the Jamiesons also emigrated with this family? Toni _________________________________________________________________ Search your PC with MSN Desktop Search http://desktop.sympatico.msn.ca/

I have come across two female members of the Mcdonald side of my family who emigrated to Van Damiens Land(Tasmania) in 1860 aboard the ship Antipodes. On searching the web I discovered that this ship sailed from the port of London arriving at Launceston on the 5th December 1860 with 160 immigrants on board.No details are available of individuals. Can anyone tell me if there was an assisted passage from Islay to Tasmania at that time and why they would have to travel to London to sail instead of the ports in Scotland? I also wonder if perhaps there was a religious connection to this emigration as both sisters were in domestic service on Islay. Any suggestions gratefully received. Thanks Dona Findlay

Thanks Johan for the informationand the sad story. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "J LOCHRIDGE" <j.lochridge@btinternet.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 6:49 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Bridge of Johnston > Hello Toni, > I googled "bridge of Johnston" and it appears it may be the old name for > the town of Johnstone. Click on > http://www.nls.uk/resources/pdf/74407777.pdf there is a reference to > Elderslie between Paisley and Bridge of Johnston and indeed, Elderslie > does lie between Paisley and Johnstone. Hope this helps. > Johan > > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To visit the website associated with this project, visit: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/data.htm > > >

I had a relation, circa 1850's, in Argyll, who had an illegitimate baby and named the father. She never married but the child went under the surname of the father. This could have been the case with your Robert McDougall. Maybe when Robert got older he rejected his father's surname and took on his mother's and grandfather's surname. A possibility?. Celia.

Thanks Sue and Dixie. I actually knew about the Robert born in 1831. He died in 1864 and could not be the father of my grandfather Duncan McAlister who was born in 1876. Seems like confirmation of the grandson bit, with the 1831 Robert his uncle. If the 1850/51 Robert was the illegitimate son of Kirsty McAlister, why might he be called McDougall in 1851 and 1861, then McAlister thereafter. I have been looking around to see if I could find a McDougall who might have been married to Kirsty, hence the name used in 1851 and 1861, but there are just too many possibilities. No idea where to go from here. Thanks anyway Fiona _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Agree with Celia -- my 3XG grandfather was illegitimate and so named on baptism record. He was raised by his father's parents and held to that surname but -- had mom's folks taken him on, who knows? Dixie > I had a relation, circa 1850's, in Argyll, who had an illegitimate baby and > named the father. She never married but the child went under the surname of > the father. This could have been the case with your Robert McDougall. Maybe > when Robert got older he rejected his father's surname and took on his > mother's and grandfather's surname. A possibility?. Celia. > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Here is a link related to tracing your ancestors on the Isle of Islay: > http://www.isle-of-islay.com/genealogy/index.html >

New to this list. Wonder if anyone can help me find out why my ggrandfather is listed on the 1871 Census for Kildalton as Robert McAlister (age 20), but on the earlier 1861 Census (age 12) and 1851 Census (age 1) as Robert McDougall. He was known as Robert McAlister for the rest of his life, born about 1850/51 in the Oa, and his wedding and death certificates give his parents as Donald McAlister and Anne Dallas. But he shows up on all three censuses as their grandson. The only daughter of Donald and Anne old enough to be the mother is Christian (Kirsty) born 1824, but I can find no trace of her after the 1841 Census. Any information to help me trace back either the McAlister or McDougall line would be very welcome. Thanks. Fiona _________________________________________________________________ Are you using the latest version of MSN Messenger? Download MSN Messenger 7.5 today! http://join.msn.com/messenger/overview

New to this list. Wonder if anyone can help me find out why my ggrandfather is listed on the 1871 Census for Kildalton as Robert McAlister (age 20), but on the earlier 1861 Census (age 12) and 1851 Census (age 20) as Robert McDougall. He was known as Robert McAlister for the rest of his life, born about 1850/51 in the Oa, and his wedding and death certificates give his parents as Donald McAlister and Anne Dallas. But he shows up on all three censuses as their grandson. The only daughter of Donald and Anne old enough to be the mother is Christian (Kirsty) born 1824, but I can find no trace of her after the 1841 Census. Any information to help me trace back either the McAlister or McDougall line would be very welcome. Thanks. Fiona _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN Search Toolbar now includes Desktop search! http://join.msn.com/toolbar/overview

Hi Fiona I think you may have people mixed up. Your Robert was b 1831, so in 1871, he would be 40 not 20 What I've been able to glean Marriage: McAlisterDond DallasNancy BOTP 3Apr1816 Kildalton Children: McAlister Donald/Dallas Ann Christian 10Oct1824 Kildalton McAlister Donald/Dallas Ann Robt 19Jan1831 Kildalton McAllister Donald/Dallas Ann William 24May1832 Kildalton McAllister Donald/Dallas Ann William 11Mar1833 Kildalton MCALISTER DONALD/DALLAS ANNE DONALD 15Apr1835Oa 1841 census There are 2 Roberts found in 1841 Kildalton/Oa transcriptions. One is 15 and the other is 9. The 9 yr old seems more likely to be your Robert and is with the McKerrall family Kildalton 125 6 Port Ellen Robert McAlister Male 9 ARL Kildalton 125 6 Port Ellen Donald McEachern Male 20 Male ServantARL Kildalton 125 6 Port Ellen James McKerrall Male 35 ShoARL Kildalton 125 6 Port Ellen Ann McKerrall Female 35 ARL Kildalton 125 6 Port Ellen Donald McKerrall Male 1 ARL Kildalton 125 6 Port Ellen Mary McKerrall Female 35 Female ServantARL What I suspect and would want to chase if this were my family: I've examined Ted's transcriptions of the 1841/51/61 census records and the family cannot be found intact. Did both parents died between 1835 and 1841? The children would then possibly have been adopted/taken in/hired by family and friends. There is another McAlister family living in Kildalton/OA that might cause some confusion 1841 census Oa621KinabusAlexander McAlisterMale10ARY Oa621KinabusAnnMcAlisterFemale40Ag. Lab.ARY Oa621KinabusJohnMcAlisterMale20ARY Oa621KinabusMaryMcAlisterFemale1ARY 1851 Census Oa21Kinabus FarmDonaldMcAlisterMale16LodgerAg. Lab. Oa63Kinabus FarmAnneMcAlisterFemale47HeadFarm Servant Oa63Kinabus FarmAnneMcAlisterFemale13Daughter Oa63Kinabus FarmMaryMcAlisterFemale11Daughter Oa63Kinabus FarmRobertMcAlisterMale20SonAg. Lab. I don't know if this helps - hope so! Cheerio Sue Visser Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fiona Docherty" <fiona_docherty@hotmail.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McAlister/McDougall New to this list. Wonder if anyone can help me find out why my ggrandfather is listed on the 1871 Census for Kildalton as Robert McAlister (age 20), but on the earlier 1861 Census (age 12) and 1851 Census (age 20) as Robert McDougall. He was known as Robert McAlister for the rest of his life, born about 1850/51 in the Oa, and his wedding and death certificates give his parents as Donald McAlister and Anne Dallas. But he shows up on all three censuses as their grandson. The only daughter of Donald and Anne old enough to be the mother is Christian (Kirsty) born 1824, but I can find no trace of her after the 1841 Census. Any information to help me trace back either the McAlister or McDougall line would be very welcome. Thanks. Fiona _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN Search Toolbar now includes Desktop search! http://join.msn.com/toolbar/overview ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information about Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm

As usual, Sue is WAY ahead of me! Dixie > Hi Fiona > > I think you may have people mixed up. Your Robert was b 1831, so in 1871, > he would be 40 not 20 > > What I've been able to glean > > Marriage: > McAlisterDond DallasNancy BOTP 3Apr1816 Kildalton > > Children: > McAlister Donald/Dallas Ann Christian 10Oct1824 Kildalton > McAlister Donald/Dallas Ann Robt 19Jan1831 Kildalton > McAllister Donald/Dallas Ann William 24May1832 Kildalton > McAllister Donald/Dallas Ann William 11Mar1833 Kildalton > MCALISTER DONALD/DALLAS ANNE DONALD 15Apr1835Oa >

One possibility would be that he was illegitimate son of Kirsty, she died (perhaps childbirth) and grandparents raised him. Perhaps father was a McAllister. Have you looked for his baptism (they usually noted is birth "lawful" or not). Good luck, Dixie > New to this list. Wonder if anyone can help me find out why my ggrandfather > is listed on the 1871 Census for Kildalton as Robert McAlister (age 20), but > on the earlier 1861 Census (age 12) and 1851 Census (age 1) as Robert > McDougall. He was known as Robert McAlister for the rest of his life, born > about 1850/51 in the Oa, and his wedding and death certificates give his > parents as Donald McAlister and Anne Dallas. But he shows up on all three > censuses as their grandson. The only daughter of Donald and Anne old enough > to be the mother is Christian (Kirsty) born 1824, but I can find no trace of > her after the 1841 Census. Any information to help me trace back either the > McAlister or McDougall line would be very welcome. Thanks. Fiona > > _________________________________________________________________ > Are you using the latest version of MSN Messenger? Download MSN Messenger > 7.5 today! http://join.msn.com/messenger/overview > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Find out who has books and research data pertaining to Islay at the Virtual > Library: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/library.htm >

Hello Toni, I googled "bridge of Johnston" and it appears it may be the old name for the town of Johnstone. Click on http://www.nls.uk/resources/pdf/74407777.pdf there is a reference to Elderslie between Paisley and Bridge of Johnston and indeed, Elderslie does lie between Paisley and Johnstone. Hope this helps. Johan

"Collins Encyclopaedia of Scotland" Population 10 in 1781 (Brig o') Johnstone had grown to 7000 by 1841 Janet, Ontario cambusomay@tiscali.co.uk wrote: HI All, Could this be Bridge of Weir or Johnston, both in Renfrewshire Vivien >-- Original Message -- >From: "Toni Sinclair" >Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLAY] McLachlan >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:18:29 +0000 >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hi Marg, >Can you tell me where this "Bridge-of-Johnson" was? > >Toni > > >>From: "Margaret Near" >>Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >>To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McLachlan >>Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:41:15 -0400 >> >>Mistake. Sarah and fmily are definitely Islay. Charles and Daniel come >to >>Upper Canada with a group from Renfrew, but some were Islay. Alexander > >>"peot" was bron at Bridge-of-Johnson. Margaret >> >> >>==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >>Find out who has books and research data pertaining to Islay at the Virtual > >>Library: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/library.htm >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Find out more about Canada?s Real Estate Outlook in Sympatico / MSN?s Spring > >Lending Features http://spring.finance.sympatico.msn.ca/ > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Click on this link for information on others researching the same families >as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ > Vivien MacKinlay Director Cambus o' May Ltd. ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Roy, These McMillans might be related, since there was another "Malcolm" "The History of Wellington County" by Jean Hutchinson Melgund Post Office - named after the Earl of Minto who was also Viscount of Melgund. It was located on lot 16, con A, on the property of John McMillan who became the Postmaster. John McMillan was born in Islay, Scotland. In the 1906 Earthquake in San Francisco, two of his sons were working there. William escaped without injury, but brother Neil received injuries from falling debris. William was able to get him back home, where he died soon after. John McMillan was a framer, and with the help of his sons, built many bank barns. Upon his retirement, son, Malcolm took over the farm until 1912. Hope it helps, Toni >From: "Roy McMillan" <rmcmilln@mts.net> >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Macalister&macmillan of Islay >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 21:39:51 -0500 > >Claude: >Perhaps we can explore this a little further. My gggrandfather Malcolm >McMillan was married to Margaret.McAllister/McIndeor. His family left Islay >in 1848. Supposedly Malcolm died just before the family departed and his >wife Margaret died on board during the trip. >Roy >----- Original Message ----- From: "Claude Cobb" <claudiocobb@cox.net> >To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 1:13 PM >Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Macalister&macmillan of Islay _________________________________________________________________ Auto news & advice – check out Sympatico / MSN Autos http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/Default.aspx

Not sure, Vivien. But one of the Islay Sinclairs I am trying to identify was described as being "currently at Bridge of Johnston". Since the McLachlan that Marg was inquiring about was also of that place, I wonder if there was some connection (probably work-related). Toni >From: cambusomay@tiscali.co.uk >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLAY] McLachlan >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 17:15:40 +0100 > >HI All, > >Could this be Bridge of Weir or Johnston, both in Renfrewshire > >Vivien _________________________________________________________________ Find out more about Canada’s Real Estate Outlook in Sympatico / MSN’s Spring Lending Features http://spring.finance.sympatico.msn.ca/

HI All, Could this be Bridge of Weir or Johnston, both in Renfrewshire Vivien >-- Original Message -- >From: "Toni Sinclair" <tonisinclair@hotmail.com> >Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLAY] McLachlan >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 11:18:29 +0000 >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com > > >Hi Marg, >Can you tell me where this "Bridge-of-Johnson" was? > >Toni > > >>From: "Margaret Near" <mlnear@pathcom.com> >>Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >>To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McLachlan >>Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:41:15 -0400 >> >>Mistake. Sarah and fmily are definitely Islay. Charles and Daniel come >to >>Upper Canada with a group from Renfrew, but some were Islay. Alexander > >>"peot" was bron at Bridge-of-Johnson. Margaret >> >> >>==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >>Find out who has books and research data pertaining to Islay at the Virtual > >>Library: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/library.htm >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Find out more about Canada?s Real Estate Outlook in Sympatico / MSN?s Spring > >Lending Features http://spring.finance.sympatico.msn.ca/ > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Click on this link for information on others researching the same families >as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ > Vivien MacKinlay Director Cambus o' May Ltd. ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

Hi Marg, Can you tell me where this "Bridge-of-Johnson" was? Toni >From: "Margaret Near" <mlnear@pathcom.com> >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McLachlan >Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:41:15 -0400 > >Mistake. Sarah and fmily are definitely Islay. Charles and Daniel come to >Upper Canada with a group from Renfrew, but some were Islay. Alexander >"peot" was bron at Bridge-of-Johnson. Margaret > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Find out who has books and research data pertaining to Islay at the Virtual >Library: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/library.htm > _________________________________________________________________ Find out more about Canada’s Real Estate Outlook in Sympatico / MSN’s Spring Lending Features http://spring.finance.sympatico.msn.ca/

Copied from the latest issue of the Ileach, with permission. Note the plans for parish changes on Islay. Subscriptions for the online version of the Ileach can be obtained by emailing ileach@ileach.co.uk Sue Visser Ontario, Canada Minister Leaving The Rev Paul R Read, Church of Scotland minister for the linked parishes of Kilarrow and Kilmeny, is leaving the island for pastures new. Following a two and a half year island ministry, the former airline pilot has accepted a call to be the first minister of the newly established North Coast Parish Church in Caithness. The minister elect is expected to be inducted into his Cataibh charge in mid-August. The minister's move was prompted by the Presbytery of Argyll's plans to link the Kilarrow parish with the parishes of Kildalton and Oa. This will lead to the severage of Kilarrow's link with Kilmeny and the establishment of a link between Kilmeny and the parishes of Kilchoman and the Rhinns of Islay.

Hi there, I am trying to trace sons, born on Islay, of Agnes Holmes (nee Kirk, born Bowmore) and her husband, Richard who lived in Govanhill, Glasgow and am unable to trace their whereabouts after the 1901 Census. They would've been of an age to enlist in the Great War and am therefore looking for clues as to which regiments Islay descendants would've signed up with, if such trends existed. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, C Murray