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  1. 07/28/2006 03:48:29
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: SCT-ISLAY-D Digest V06 #140
    2. celiageary
    3. I agree with almost everything you said. The LDS through their many adherents, give genealogists a source from which we can search further and I really appreciate their magnanimity in sharing the website cost free, but what frustrates me, is that when I know information posted on the LDS site is erroneous, there is no way of correcting it. All I am trying to say is that the LDS should have a feed-back site so that we can correct errors, otherwise they just go on being perpetuated ad infinitum. Our local Council entered all the cemetery records on line so that genealogists and others could find further info to add to that gained by reading gravestones, but there were lots of mistakes, mainly due to poor handwriting in the old days, so they provided an email site so that researchers could enter corrections for staff to alter the entries and remove the errors for the future. That is all I am saying that it would be helpful for the LDS to do. But after being a researching genealogist for over 30 years, I will reiterate , that Primary sources are the best if you can access them. There are so many extra little snippets of info on a primary source. Celia.

    07/28/2006 07:58:02
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: SCT-ISLAY-D Digest V06 #140 & IGI entries on LDS site
    2. Gilbert Ray
    3. Martin I disagree with your contention that an erroneous family history is better than none. At least that's what I think you said. Nothing should be published as being a family history unless it's been verified at least by some type of verifiable information. I've seen my family history on the LDS site and it's simply wrong and misleading. If the person that published it had taken a little more time to do some real research they would have found the real family tree because that information is in the public sector. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Collett" <mcollett@dslextreme.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: SCT-ISLAY-D Digest V06 #140 & IGI entries on LDS site > Dear List, > > This has been an interesting discussion on source value so let me throw in > my two cents. First, I will almost always take an original record over a > compiled record. Second, in the absence of an original record, give me a > compiled record so I at least have a clue to get around my roadblocks. > Finally, be thankful for every name, date, place, story and picture that > you > can find because someone whether on purpose or by accident took the time > to > record it or pass it on. > > Family history is an art form not a science and each of us paints or > records > in different styles and media. While you may be frustrated with the LDS > site, please consider sharing your genealogy on their site through the > Pedigree Resource File (PRF) by going to the "SHARE" tab. This way not > only > is the incorrect information on the site but also your corrected version. > As site users then it would be up to us to sort out which data is right > and > wrong by finding original records to support it. When you contribute to > the > PRF, you can provide your name and contact information so that other > researchers can contact you directly to obtain your sources, discussing > your > findings or share their information. It is also a great way to find > cousins. > > As a family history researcher, I am extremely grateful for all of the > time > and effort that others have spent preparing compiled records and making > them > available. I truly owe many of my family lines and connections to those > who > share -- thank you! > > Martin > Family History: the freedom to remember. > > -----Original Message----- > From: celiageary [mailto:celia_geary@infogen.net.nz] > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:58 PM > To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: SCT-ISLAY-D Digest V06 #140 > > I agree with almost everything you said. The LDS through their many > adherents, give genealogists a source from which we can search further > and > I really appreciate their magnanimity in sharing the website cost free, > but > what frustrates me, is that when I know information posted on the LDS > site > is erroneous, there is no way of correcting it. All I am trying to say is > that the LDS should have a feed-back site so that we can correct errors, > otherwise they just go on > being perpetuated ad infinitum. > Our local Council entered all the cemetery records on line so that > genealogists and others could find further info to add to that gained by > reading gravestones, but there were lots of mistakes, mainly due to poor > handwriting in the old days, so they provided an email site so that > researchers could enter corrections for staff to alter the entries and > remove the errors for the future. That is all I am saying that it would be > helpful for the LDS to do. But after being a researching genealogist for > over 30 years, I will reiterate , that Primary sources are the best if you > can access them. There are so many extra little snippets of info on a > primary source. Celia. > > ______________________________ > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO > CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm

    07/28/2006 06:12:28
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: LDS
    2. Gilbert Ray
    3. I've heard the same story over and over again. There are a lot of family history's on the LDS site that are just plain wrong. I saw what was supposed to be my family history that someone had taken down and it's a joke. They only want these so called family history's so that Mormons can baptize the dead so they can go to their version of heaven and be part of their extended family. Be very wary about what they have on their site. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren McFadyen" <warmac@telus.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: LDS >I also agree. > There is information about my grandfather there and it is definitely not > correct. > I asked them to remove or correct it, but the refused. > So one must treat the information as suspect. > > Warren, > peace > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KenHarrison11@cs.com> > To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:18 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: LDS > > >> Celia, >> >> I agree. I submitted a small tree to LDS about 35 years ago, one that >> was as >> correct as I could make it at the time. Subsequently I found additional >> information and a few corrections (including more precise data). I >> submitted this >> as well, asking that it replace my earlier submission. A few years later >> I >> discovered that they were both on their site. >> >> I have submitted nothing else to them in over 30 years, but I still get >> one >> or two contacts each year from persons who have found my terribly >> outdated and >> partially incorrect material. I am glad when they contact me; but I can >> only >> guess at the numbers of persons who harvest my incorrect data and do not >> contact me so that I can correct it for them. >> >> One genealogy software firm (which will remain nameless) even has some of >> my >> 35 year old data incorporated into its databank, complete with two minor >> spelling mistakes I made !! So I know it is my data. And is charging >> purchasers >> for the privilege of passing on my data..... >> >> So ... I would agree that the LDS should provide a process to permit at >> least >> the original submitter to correct/modify/extend his/her data. There also >> should be a way to have corrections made to data submitted by others. >> Some of >> the more egregious errors to be found should be just zapped. >> >> Ken Harrison >> >> In a message dated 27/07/2006 7:01:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, >> celia_geary@infogen.net.nz writes: >>> >>> I agree with almost everything you said. The LDS through their many >>> adherents, give genealogists a source from which we can search further >>> and >>> I really appreciate their magnanimity in sharing the website cost free, >>> but >>> what frustrates me, is that when I know information posted on the LDS >>> site >>> is erroneous, there is no way of correcting it. All I am trying to say >>> is >>> that the LDS should have a feed-back site so that we can correct >>> errors, >>> otherwise they just go on >>> being perpetuated ad infinitum. >>> Our local Council entered all the cemetery records on line so that >>> genealogists and others could find further info to add to that gained by >>> reading gravestones, but there were lots of mistakes, mainly due to poor >>> handwriting in the old days, so they provided an email site so that >>> researchers could enter corrections for staff to alter the entries and >>> remove the errors for the future. That is all I am saying that it would >>> be >>> helpful for the LDS to do. But after being a researching genealogist for >>> over 30 years, I will reiterate , that Primary sources are the best if >>> you >>> can access them. There are so many extra little snippets of info on a >>> primary source. Celia. >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >> To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 >> visit: >> HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ >> >> > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Here is a link related to tracing your ancestors on the Isle of Islay: > http://www.isle-of-islay.com/genealogy/index.html

    07/28/2006 06:07:41
    1. RE: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: SCT-ISLAY-D Digest V06 #140 & IGI entries on LDS site
    2. Martin Collett
    3. Dear List, This has been an interesting discussion on source value so let me throw in my two cents. First, I will almost always take an original record over a compiled record. Second, in the absence of an original record, give me a compiled record so I at least have a clue to get around my roadblocks. Finally, be thankful for every name, date, place, story and picture that you can find because someone whether on purpose or by accident took the time to record it or pass it on. Family history is an art form not a science and each of us paints or records in different styles and media. While you may be frustrated with the LDS site, please consider sharing your genealogy on their site through the Pedigree Resource File (PRF) by going to the "SHARE" tab. This way not only is the incorrect information on the site but also your corrected version. As site users then it would be up to us to sort out which data is right and wrong by finding original records to support it. When you contribute to the PRF, you can provide your name and contact information so that other researchers can contact you directly to obtain your sources, discussing your findings or share their information. It is also a great way to find cousins. As a family history researcher, I am extremely grateful for all of the time and effort that others have spent preparing compiled records and making them available. I truly owe many of my family lines and connections to those who share -- thank you! Martin Family History: the freedom to remember. -----Original Message----- From: celiageary [mailto:celia_geary@infogen.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:58 PM To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: SCT-ISLAY-D Digest V06 #140 I agree with almost everything you said. The LDS through their many adherents, give genealogists a source from which we can search further and I really appreciate their magnanimity in sharing the website cost free, but what frustrates me, is that when I know information posted on the LDS site is erroneous, there is no way of correcting it. All I am trying to say is that the LDS should have a feed-back site so that we can correct errors, otherwise they just go on being perpetuated ad infinitum. Our local Council entered all the cemetery records on line so that genealogists and others could find further info to add to that gained by reading gravestones, but there were lots of mistakes, mainly due to poor handwriting in the old days, so they provided an email site so that researchers could enter corrections for staff to alter the entries and remove the errors for the future. That is all I am saying that it would be helpful for the LDS to do. But after being a researching genealogist for over 30 years, I will reiterate , that Primary sources are the best if you can access them. There are so many extra little snippets of info on a primary source. Celia. ______________________________

    07/28/2006 02:47:10
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: LDS
    2. Warren McFadyen
    3. I also agree. There is information about my grandfather there and it is definitely not correct. I asked them to remove or correct it, but the refused. So one must treat the information as suspect. Warren, peace ----- Original Message ----- From: <KenHarrison11@cs.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:18 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: LDS > Celia, > > I agree. I submitted a small tree to LDS about 35 years ago, one that was as > correct as I could make it at the time. Subsequently I found additional > information and a few corrections (including more precise data). I submitted this > as well, asking that it replace my earlier submission. A few years later I > discovered that they were both on their site. > > I have submitted nothing else to them in over 30 years, but I still get one > or two contacts each year from persons who have found my terribly outdated and > partially incorrect material. I am glad when they contact me; but I can only > guess at the numbers of persons who harvest my incorrect data and do not > contact me so that I can correct it for them. > > One genealogy software firm (which will remain nameless) even has some of my > 35 year old data incorporated into its databank, complete with two minor > spelling mistakes I made !! So I know it is my data. And is charging purchasers > for the privilege of passing on my data..... > > So ... I would agree that the LDS should provide a process to permit at least > the original submitter to correct/modify/extend his/her data. There also > should be a way to have corrections made to data submitted by others. Some of > the more egregious errors to be found should be just zapped. > > Ken Harrison > > In a message dated 27/07/2006 7:01:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, > celia_geary@infogen.net.nz writes: >> >> I agree with almost everything you said. The LDS through their many >> adherents, give genealogists a source from which we can search further and >> I really appreciate their magnanimity in sharing the website cost free, but >> what frustrates me, is that when I know information posted on the LDS site >> is erroneous, there is no way of correcting it. All I am trying to say is >> that the LDS should have a feed-back site so that we can correct errors, >> otherwise they just go on >> being perpetuated ad infinitum. >> Our local Council entered all the cemetery records on line so that >> genealogists and others could find further info to add to that gained by >> reading gravestones, but there were lots of mistakes, mainly due to poor >> handwriting in the old days, so they provided an email site so that >> researchers could enter corrections for staff to alter the entries and >> remove the errors for the future. That is all I am saying that it would be >> helpful for the LDS to do. But after being a researching genealogist for >> over 30 years, I will reiterate , that Primary sources are the best if you >> can access them. There are so many extra little snippets of info on a >> primary source. Celia. >> >> > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ > >

    07/28/2006 12:14:37
    1. Re: LDS
    2. Celia, I agree. I submitted a small tree to LDS about 35 years ago, one that was as correct as I could make it at the time. Subsequently I found additional information and a few corrections (including more precise data). I submitted this as well, asking that it replace my earlier submission. A few years later I discovered that they were both on their site. I have submitted nothing else to them in over 30 years, but I still get one or two contacts each year from persons who have found my terribly outdated and partially incorrect material. I am glad when they contact me; but I can only guess at the numbers of persons who harvest my incorrect data and do not contact me so that I can correct it for them. One genealogy software firm (which will remain nameless) even has some of my 35 year old data incorporated into its databank, complete with two minor spelling mistakes I made !! So I know it is my data. And is charging purchasers for the privilege of passing on my data..... So ... I would agree that the LDS should provide a process to permit at least the original submitter to correct/modify/extend his/her data. There also should be a way to have corrections made to data submitted by others. Some of the more egregious errors to be found should be just zapped. Ken Harrison In a message dated 27/07/2006 7:01:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, celia_geary@infogen.net.nz writes: > > I agree with almost everything you said. The LDS through their many > adherents, give genealogists a source from which we can search further and > I really appreciate their magnanimity in sharing the website cost free, but > what frustrates me, is that when I know information posted on the LDS site > is erroneous, there is no way of correcting it. All I am trying to say is > that the LDS should have a feed-back site so that we can correct errors, > otherwise they just go on > being perpetuated ad infinitum. > Our local Council entered all the cemetery records on line so that > genealogists and others could find further info to add to that gained by > reading gravestones, but there were lots of mistakes, mainly due to poor > handwriting in the old days, so they provided an email site so that > researchers could enter corrections for staff to alter the entries and > remove the errors for the future. That is all I am saying that it would be > helpful for the LDS to do. But after being a researching genealogist for > over 30 years, I will reiterate , that Primary sources are the best if you > can access them. There are so many extra little snippets of info on a > primary source. Celia. > >

    07/27/2006 07:18:49
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: SCT-ISLAY-D Digest V06 #140
    2. Seth L. McPhie
    3. Celia, The LDS are constantly upgrading their sight, but some things are next to impossible. Are you talking IGI or Ancestrial File? ----- Original Message ----- From: "celiageary" <celia_geary@infogen.net.nz> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re: SCT-ISLAY-D Digest V06 #140 >I agree with almost everything you said. The LDS through their many > adherents, give genealogists a source from which we can search further > and > I really appreciate their magnanimity in sharing the website cost free, > but > what frustrates me, is that when I know information posted on the LDS > site > is erroneous, there is no way of correcting it. All I am trying to say is > that the LDS should have a feed-back site so that we can correct errors, > otherwise they just go on > being perpetuated ad infinitum. > Our local Council entered all the cemetery records on line so that > genealogists and others could find further info to add to that gained by > reading gravestones, but there were lots of mistakes, mainly due to poor > handwriting in the old days, so they provided an email site so that > researchers could enter corrections for staff to alter the entries and > remove the errors for the future. That is all I am saying that it would be > helpful for the LDS to do. But after being a researching genealogist for > over 30 years, I will reiterate , that Primary sources are the best if you > can access them. There are so many extra little snippets of info on a > primary source. Celia. > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 > visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ >

    07/27/2006 03:47:42
    1. Re: SCT-ISLAY-D Digest V06 #140
    2. Karma Timmons
    3. Celia: I was a volunteer for a short time doing this entry for the LDS church. The church wants to put this information out to the world so that people will have a source that may help them to connect to their ancestors. The information on the LDS site has been submitted by volunteers that have entered in this information, on their own time! This has been a huge effort by all of them. They had thousands upon thousands of Family Group Records to enter. I think they should be thanked. The fact that they did not put their name on the record for who submitted it, might be because it was not their family. Or if the information come off a family spread sheet possibly the person who did it did not put their name on it. I just don’t know. But I think we need to look at it as a SOURCE for giving us leads. And a very important fact: IT IS FREE there are no costs involved. Please note the information that is POSTED on the bottom of their internet site when you’re doing searches. About Ancestral File: Ancestral File is a collection of genealogical information taken from Pedigree Charts and Family Group Records submitted to the Family History Department since 1978. The information has not been verified against any official records. Since the information in Ancestral File is contributed, it is the responsibility of those who use the file to verify its accuracy. I hope I have not offended anyone, and if I did I am sorry, but I think this needed to be said. Kind Regards, Karma

    07/27/2006 04:21:54
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site
    2. Jeanette Scott
    3. Nancy - If the material is in the Victoria library, you should be able to get it in Sechelt through inter-library loan. Jeanette MacArthur Scott On Jul 26, 2006, at 9:43 PM, Nancy A. MacLarty wrote: > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:19, Sarah Duff wrote: > >> Just as a note, for if anyone lives in the Victoria, BC area. All >> library branches have free access to Ancestry.com and the one >> downtown has ship lists on microfilm as well as all the Canadian >> Census returns. The reference section is pretty good and has books >> on Scottish ancestors. > > Does the same hold true for smaller libraries? I live in Sechelt on > the Sunshine Coast. The Scotts at Douglas Bay <bandj@shaw.ca>

    07/27/2006 02:37:55
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site
    2. Seth L. McPhie
    3. You need to ask each small library the contents of their library. There is usually somekind of catalogue for each library! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy A. MacLarty" <nanmac825@dccnet.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:19, Sarah Duff wrote: > >> Just as a note, for if anyone lives in the Victoria, BC area. All >> library branches have free access to Ancestry.com and the one downtown >> has ship lists on microfilm as well as all the Canadian Census returns. >> The reference section is pretty good and has books on Scottish ancestors. >> I didn't find my aunt's in them but there were a lot from Islay. > > Does the same hold true for smaller libraries? I live in Sechelt on the > Sunshine Coast. I have traced my people back to my 4x Great Grandfather > on Islay. > > Nancy MacLarty > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW TO > CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 > >

    07/26/2006 03:58:31
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site
    2. Nancy A. MacLarty
    3. On Jul 26, 2006, at 8:19, Sarah Duff wrote: > Just as a note, for if anyone lives in the Victoria, BC area. All > library branches have free access to Ancestry.com and the one downtown > has ship lists on microfilm as well as all the Canadian Census > returns. The reference section is pretty good and has books on > Scottish ancestors. I didn't find my aunt's in them but there were a > lot from Islay. Does the same hold true for smaller libraries? I live in Sechelt on the Sunshine Coast. I have traced my people back to my 4x Great Grandfather on Islay. Nancy MacLarty

    07/26/2006 03:43:43
    1. Fw: Re info
    2. Dorothy Bell
    3. Subject: Re info Thanks, Ted. I have passed this on to Jim Sinclair. Dorothy Bell

    07/26/2006 02:13:07
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Re Sinclair
    2. Ted Larson
    3. Hi Dorothy: First of all Daniel is a very unusual name in the Islay birth records. There were only 14 recorded in Islay birth records between the earliest records and 1855. I have seen a couple of cases where men baptized Donald became Daniel in later life in Canada but neither do I find a Donald Sinclair born in that time frame. The closest was born in 1792. There are no Flora McKenzies born in the right time frame on Islay. Neither of the parishes that you have listed exist on Islay. I'm afraid you have struck out on the recorded history of Islay. Some birth records are not available that early. I also checked marriage and birth of children for any Silclair and any McKenzie on Islay and found none. Sorry! Ted Larson Dorothy Bell wrote: >Hello : > >Can anyone help with this request. >Thanks, > >Dorothy Bell >dotross@sympatico.ca > > > >I am trying to find the parents of my great-great-grandparents: > > > > 1.. Daniel Sinclair born March 24, 1794 in Parrish of Ketmartin, Island Of Islay, Scotland > 2.. Flora McKenzie born October 18, 1798 in Parrish of Kelokomar, Island of Islay, Scotland > > >They are both buried in the McLucas Cemetery near Clio, SC > > > >Any help would be appreciated. > > > >Thanks > > > >Jim Sinclair > > > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >You can find older, archived messages from this mailing list by visiting: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/archive1.htm - and from April 1999, you can access archived messages at http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCT-ISLAY > > >. > > >

    07/26/2006 11:11:52
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site
    2. celiageary
    3. The LDS is very lax at giving out info for which it has no provenance. Then when you want to refute it, it is impossible. The LDS is a guide only and it pays to research the primary source yourself if you can. Go to the Scotland's People www., or Ancestry .com, if you can find a place to access it. (In NZ many libraries now belong and for a small fee you can access Ancestry .com and print off your certificates or Census records.The libraries view Ancestry .com as part of their reference resources.) Otherwise write to the local Archives which are usually very helpful. You may have to pay a small photocopying fee or a look-up fee, but at least you will know that you are getting as close to an authentic record as possible. I hav had some real howlers from LDS but some of their info is OK. It is finding which is which that is the problem. Celia.

    07/26/2006 10:49:39
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site
    2. Norma Callicott
    3. We could all start a complaint section for inaccurate data and stories that have been stretched along the way couldn't we? Obstacles in research: - other family researchers that "hoard information" rather than sharing. - postings on Rootsweb and LDS that are "works of fiction". - stories that get handed down verbally eventually get twisted and changed, rather than being written down in the first place. - family members that never bothered to mark old graves are now impossible to find. - and of course all of the photos, letters etc that have been thrown away and stories not recorded by the originator, sad. This is why I prod and poke people for sources, sources, sources. To keep everything straight in my research I now: - have a spreadsheet where every iota of data, every miniscule fact, is properly sourced - my "book" I am compiling has every census entry posted for all to see so they can interpret it as they wish, all stories are clearly marked as "stories", I'm nost just interested in dates, information from agricultural societies, local history books, newspapers make for great reading in a family book. - my information will eventually be on-line and/or printed for all to see and add to. -family stories give me a starting point on research only, I'm trying to confirm everything with b/m/d and census records. Still Digging in Canada, Norma Callicott ----- Original Message ----- From: "celiageary" <celia_geary@infogen.net.nz> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site > The LDS is very lax at giving out info for which it has no provenance. > Then > when you want to refute it, it is impossible. The LDS is a guide only and > it > pays to research the primary source yourself if you can. Go to the > Scotland's People www., or Ancestry .com, if you can find a place to > access > it. (In NZ many libraries now belong and for a small fee you can access > Ancestry .com and print off your certificates or Census records.The > libraries view Ancestry .com as part of their reference resources.) > Otherwise write to the local Archives which are usually very helpful. You > may have to pay a small photocopying fee or a look-up fee, but at least > you > will know that you are getting as close to an authentic record as > possible. > I hav had some real howlers from LDS but some of their info is OK. It is > finding which is which that is the problem. Celia. > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Here is a link related to tracing your ancestors on the Isle of Islay: > http://www.isle-of-islay.com/genealogy/index.html >

    07/26/2006 05:49:04
    1. Re Sinclair
    2. Dorothy Bell
    3. Hello : Can anyone help with this request. Thanks, Dorothy Bell dotross@sympatico.ca I am trying to find the parents of my great-great-grandparents: 1.. Daniel Sinclair born March 24, 1794 in Parrish of Ketmartin, Island Of Islay, Scotland 2.. Flora McKenzie born October 18, 1798 in Parrish of Kelokomar, Island of Islay, Scotland They are both buried in the McLucas Cemetery near Clio, SC Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jim Sinclair

    07/26/2006 04:20:54
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site
    2. Sarah Duff
    3. Just as a note, for if anyone lives in the Victoria, BC area. All library branches have free access to Ancestry.com and the one downtown has ship lists on microfilm as well as all the Canadian Census returns. The reference section is pretty good and has books on Scottish ancestors. I didn't find my aunt's in them but there were a lot from Islay. Sarah On 25-Jul-06, at 9:49 PM, celiageary wrote: > The LDS is very lax at giving out info for which it has no > provenance. Then > when you want to refute it, it is impossible. The LDS is a guide > only and it > pays to research the primary source yourself if you can. Go to the > Scotland's People www., or Ancestry .com, if you can find a place > to access > it. (In NZ many libraries now belong and for a small fee you can > access > Ancestry .com and print off your certificates or Census records.The > libraries view Ancestry .com as part of their reference resources.) > Otherwise write to the local Archives which are usually very > helpful. You > may have to pay a small photocopying fee or a look-up fee, but at > least you > will know that you are getting as close to an authentic record as > possible. > I hav had some real howlers from LDS but some of their info is OK. > It is > finding which is which that is the problem. Celia. > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Here is a link related to tracing your ancestors on the Isle of Islay: > http://www.isle-of-islay.com/genealogy/index.html >

    07/26/2006 02:19:55
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site
    2. Norma Callicott
    3. A nice person inquired and found out the city of the originator and the approximate date the info was posted. I was able to deduce which other family researcher it was based on the city, got in touch with him and verified the info. As far as I know none of my Macleans every came to Canada. Euphemia and John Maclean were from Islay, had a daughter, I think Mary and possibly a son, Donald. Mary's son, John Johnston is the one who came to Canada. Thanks, Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon J. Huber" <sjhuber1@comcast.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site > Norma, > > When I had a question about Source Information I happened to be at our > local > FHC. The young man who was helping me picked up the phone and called the > resource center in Salt Lake City, UT. > > My Source ended up being a BMD page--no real source available. > > I hope this helps you. > > By the way where did your McLean family originate? Did they ever live in > Grey/Bruce County, Ontario? > > Sharon Huber, > Bellingham, WA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Norma Callicott" <norcal@telus.net> > To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:21 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site > > >> I have come across a very vague Maclean IGI entry on the LDS site that >> may > relate to my family. There are things in this entry that fit with my > research but I haven't found anywhere else. >> >> Under Messages it says: "Record was submitted after 1991 by a member of > the LDS Church. No additional information is available." >> >> Under Source Information: "No source information is available". >> >> Does anyone know who I can contact to find out who submitted it? > Obviously their researchers have not got this from any official document > or > microfilm. >> >> thks >> Norma >> Johnstons, Macleans & Fergusons >> >> >> ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >> Click on this link for information on others researching the same >> families > as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ >> > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information > about Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm >

    07/25/2006 05:02:11
    1. Re: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site
    2. Sharon J. Huber
    3. Norma, When I had a question about Source Information I happened to be at our local FHC. The young man who was helping me picked up the phone and called the resource center in Salt Lake City, UT. My Source ended up being a BMD page--no real source available. I hope this helps you. By the way where did your McLean family originate? Did they ever live in Grey/Bruce County, Ontario? Sharon Huber, Bellingham, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norma Callicott" <norcal@telus.net> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] IGI entries on LDS site > I have come across a very vague Maclean IGI entry on the LDS site that may relate to my family. There are things in this entry that fit with my research but I haven't found anywhere else. > > Under Messages it says: "Record was submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available." > > Under Source Information: "No source information is available". > > Does anyone know who I can contact to find out who submitted it? Obviously their researchers have not got this from any official document or microfilm. > > thks > Norma > Johnstons, Macleans & Fergusons > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Click on this link for information on others researching the same families as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ >

    07/25/2006 03:05:02