I have an Isabella McNiven/)MacNiven)in my family history: She married Hugh Carmichael in Bowmore Parish, Islay on 5-31-183. They came with his family to Mariposa Township, Ontario in the 1830's, where they had seven sons and four daughters, including my grandfather, Donald McNiven Carmichael. Isabella died 0n 5-11-1865 and is buried in the Lorneville 1/4 Rd Cemetary in Eldon Township, Ontario. I haven't been able to identify Isabella's family in Islay through the birth records. And I would love to learn more about them. Sandy Carmichael On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:48 AM, Dorothy Stewart wrote: > I am researching the following ISLAY family names. Please contact me > if there might be a possible connection. > > McDERMID/McDIARMID ( there are a few different spellings) - some first > names are FINLAY/DUNCAN > > McCOAG/McCAIG ( there are a few different spellings) - ALEXANDER/ MARY > > MacNEILL - FLORA > > KEITH/McKEITH/McKEIGH - some first names are GILBERT/ HUGH > > NIVEN/McNIVER - ISABELLA > > I look forward to being a member of this list and hope to make some > contacts with other researching the same lines. > > Dorothy > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > FOR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MAILING LIST - HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE - HOW > TO CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, ETC, ETC...: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/maillist.htm >

Evening All, This is what I found on the LDS site.... Family Group Sheet THOMAS CALDER Husband: 1792 Born: , , Scotland in: Abt. 1823 Married: Of, , , North Carolina in: MRS. CATHERINE CALDER Wife: 1797 Born: , , Scotland in: CHILDREN 1 Unavailable Name: ? 2 Unavailable Name: ? 3 Unavailable Name: ? 4 Unavailable Name: ? 5 DONALD CALDER Name: 1824 Born: Of, , , North Carolina in: M 6 DUNCAN CALDER Name: 1826 Born: , , North Carolina in: M

Evening All, Here is the posting I have been working from for Thomas' family in Canada 1851. 1851 census 250 page 033 line 12 @ca.on.ontario_county.mara_&_rama_townships film C11743 lds0349230 12 CALDER Thomas m 59 Scotland Presb farmer married 13 CALDER (?) Catherine f 54 Scotland Presb married (McNabb) 14 CALDER Donald m 27 United States FreeChurchPresb empld. by Pt 15 CALDER Duncan m 25 United States FreeChurchPresb empld. by Pt 16 CALDER Andrew m 22 Canada FreeChurchPresb empld. by Pt 17 CALDER Mary f 29 Canada FreeChurchPresb 18 CALDER Catherine f 17 Canada FreeChurchPresb 19 CALDER Margaret f 11 Canada FreeChurchPresb One of the interesting things about this is 'Mary'. Older than Donald yet born in Canada? This may be the black baby that the Calder's brought up with them from the States?? There are stories pertaining to a black child by the name of Mary being part of the Calder 'family' . Andrew born in Canada approx.1829 certainly suggests that this family of Calder's came up with a group from North Carolina in 1827 led by Archibald McMillan. The book, 'Secrets of the Lakes' by Monica Frim refers to the Calders being "the first family to arrive from North Carolina, settling on the Beaver River where Donald Calder built the sawmill and gristmill that inspired the name of Milton before the village officially adopted the name of Beaverton." Hope this helps. Vicki ----- Original Message ----- From: <Ncscot1818@wmconnect.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Calder/McNabb, Calder/McNeil, Calder/White, White/Adams, Adam... > Hi Vicki, > > Thanks for posting the info about your Caulders and their stay in North > Carolina. This is wonderful, I have been searching for years with the > misconception > that the Donald and Duncan Calder came to North Carolina as adults. > > A great-grandfather, John McFadyen, came to North Carolina from Islay in > 1818. Others in the party of about 35 that have been identified thus far > included > his elderly father and four of his siblings with their families. Also in > that > number were an uncle, Alexander McMillan, with his family and Colin > Campbell > and family. Colin was related by his marriage to Isabella Carmichael, > sister of > Ann Carmichael McMillan and Mary Carmichael McFadyen, wife of Archibald > McFadyen. > > Despite the deaths of the two patriarchs and perhaps as many as three > children, the number had increased to about 53 by 1828 when the decision > was made by > the majority to leave North Carolina for Ontario. Nine of that number > remained > in Richmond County, NC until the next decade when Mary McFadyen McFadyen > and > her family of eight left for Alabama. > > I have yet to find your Thomas Calder in North Carolina in 1820 so he may > have arrived between then and the birth of Donald in 1825. I did find an > Alexander Colder in Richmond County, so a more thourough search may prove > fruitful. > > Colin McFadyen, nephew of my great-grandfather, was born in Richmond > County > in 1821 and died in Ontario in 1911. In 1910 he talked about the journey > to > Eldon Township in an interview and mentioned the Calders as fellow > travelers from > North Carolina but did not state if there were other connections. > > Others of that party that settled in Eldon and Thorah Townships beside the > Campbells, the McMillans and the McFadyens were John and Marion McFadyen > Ray and > James and Margaret McFadyen McLachlan. > > If you know anything else about the Calders while in North Carolina or > their > journey to Ontario I would be pleased if you would share it. > > Thanks, > > Edward King > > Seagrove, NC > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 > visit: > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ > > >

Edward, Do you have any other information about the 1818 immigration to NC? Name of ship, etc? I am searching for Margaret MacNeill and James McNabb and family, who arrived in NC from Islay in late 1818. Brenda Cameron -----Original Message----- >From: Ncscot1818@wmconnect.com >Sent: Aug 4, 2006 4:21 PM >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Calder/McNabb, Calder/McNeil, Calder/White, White/Adams, Adam... > >Hi Vicki, > >Thanks for posting the info about your Caulders and their stay in North >Carolina. This is wonderful, I have been searching for years with the misconception >that the Donald and Duncan Calder came to North Carolina as adults. > >A great-grandfather, John McFadyen, came to North Carolina from Islay in >1818. Others in the party of about 35 that have been identified thus far included >his elderly father and four of his siblings with their families. Also in that >number were an uncle, Alexander McMillan, with his family and Colin Campbell >and family. Colin was related by his marriage to Isabella Carmichael, sister of >Ann Carmichael McMillan and Mary Carmichael McFadyen, wife of Archibald >McFadyen. > >Despite the deaths of the two patriarchs and perhaps as many as three >children, the number had increased to about 53 by 1828 when the decision was made by >the majority to leave North Carolina for Ontario. Nine of that number remained >in Richmond County, NC until the next decade when Mary McFadyen McFadyen and >her family of eight left for Alabama. > >I have yet to find your Thomas Calder in North Carolina in 1820 so he may >have arrived between then and the birth of Donald in 1825. I did find an >Alexander Colder in Richmond County, so a more thourough search may prove fruitful. > >Colin McFadyen, nephew of my great-grandfather, was born in Richmond County >in 1821 and died in Ontario in 1911. In 1910 he talked about the journey to >Eldon Township in an interview and mentioned the Calders as fellow travelers from >North Carolina but did not state if there were other connections. > >Others of that party that settled in Eldon and Thorah Townships beside the >Campbells, the McMillans and the McFadyens were John and Marion McFadyen Ray and >James and Margaret McFadyen McLachlan. > >If you know anything else about the Calders while in North Carolina or their >journey to Ontario I would be pleased if you would share it. > >Thanks, > >Edward King > >Seagrove, NC > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >To find Vital Statistics for islay from the earliest records to 1875 visit: >HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ >

Hi Vicki, Thanks for posting the info about your Caulders and their stay in North Carolina. This is wonderful, I have been searching for years with the misconception that the Donald and Duncan Calder came to North Carolina as adults. A great-grandfather, John McFadyen, came to North Carolina from Islay in 1818. Others in the party of about 35 that have been identified thus far included his elderly father and four of his siblings with their families. Also in that number were an uncle, Alexander McMillan, with his family and Colin Campbell and family. Colin was related by his marriage to Isabella Carmichael, sister of Ann Carmichael McMillan and Mary Carmichael McFadyen, wife of Archibald McFadyen. Despite the deaths of the two patriarchs and perhaps as many as three children, the number had increased to about 53 by 1828 when the decision was made by the majority to leave North Carolina for Ontario. Nine of that number remained in Richmond County, NC until the next decade when Mary McFadyen McFadyen and her family of eight left for Alabama. I have yet to find your Thomas Calder in North Carolina in 1820 so he may have arrived between then and the birth of Donald in 1825. I did find an Alexander Colder in Richmond County, so a more thourough search may prove fruitful. Colin McFadyen, nephew of my great-grandfather, was born in Richmond County in 1821 and died in Ontario in 1911. In 1910 he talked about the journey to Eldon Township in an interview and mentioned the Calders as fellow travelers from North Carolina but did not state if there were other connections. Others of that party that settled in Eldon and Thorah Townships beside the Campbells, the McMillans and the McFadyens were John and Marion McFadyen Ray and James and Margaret McFadyen McLachlan. If you know anything else about the Calders while in North Carolina or their journey to Ontario I would be pleased if you would share it. Thanks, Edward King Seagrove, NC

Ken, I failed to mention in previous message that our James and family emigrated to North Carolina in 1818 from Islay. Also, James had a illegimate son born about 1805 names Archibald who we believe came to NC with his 'ligimate' family. Brenda -----Original Message----- >From: KenHarrison11@cs.com >Sent: Aug 4, 2006 1:43 PM >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] McNabb > >Whether or not all the McNab(b)s were related, there sure are a lot of dead >ends with them. > >While this string is current, I'd like to put in a plea for anyone who can >pin down some of my own "missing" McNabbs, who were at Ballychatrigin (Oa) from >at least around 1820 until they left for Canada in 1852 (but not all family >members left, so perhaps some stayed there for a while?):. > >Anne (Nancy) McNabb, bap 20 Dec 1820 to Duncan McNabb & Grace Morrison >(sometimes McVoran); possibly married a McFadyen & possibly emigrated in 1852 > >Duncan, John, Donald & Alexander, all born between about 1795 and 1805, to >Donald McNabb. Mother may have been a McKay. > >Andrew McNabb, born about 1807, to Donald McNabb and a second unknown wife. > >Flora McNabb, born about 1781, married about 1797 (probably in Scotland) to >Peter McKellar (are there any McKellars on Islay?). They emigrated to Canada >apparently before 1818 and I found them in 1861 at Kent Co., Rawleigh Twp, >Ontario. They had at least one son, Archibald, born about 1798, possibly in >Islay, and at least one daughter Mary Ann. > >Duncan McNabb, born about 1787 in Islay; died 1870 in Ontario; possibly >unmarried > >Mary McNabb, born 1794 in Islay, emigrated before 1818 to Canada (possibly >via USA) and married near Chatham, Ontario between 1810 and 1818 to James >McLaren. > >Andrew McNabb, born abt 1795 in Islay; probably emigrated to Canada before >1818 > >The four immediately above were siblings. Can anyone identify their parents? > >Janet (Jessie) McNab, b. about 1800, possibly at Coillebus, possibly to a >Duncan McNab. The earliest thing proven about her is her marriage in 1817 to >John MacDougall (Kildalton OPR 541/1: 1817 Mar. 1 John MacDougall a young >man and Janet McNab a young woman both in this parish have been registered in >order to marriage and were married 6th). They had 3 children born between 1818 >and 1824 (found in Kildalton OPR). Later censuses state they were born on the >Oa, possibly at Ballychatrigin. Janet was an ancestor of my wife's, and if >she can be linked to any of the persons shown near the top of this message this >would prove that my wife and I are fifth cousins!! > >Ken Harrison >North Vancouver, Canada > > >In a message dated 04/08/2006 5:31:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, >bbcameron@earthlink.net writes: >> Carolyn, >> Do you have a James MacNab who married Margaret MacNeill in 1805 in >> Kildalton, Islay? James was a tenant farmer at Machry Farm. I have a feeling that >> most of the Islay McNabs were related but can't find the proof. >> Brenda Cameron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: CAROLYN HARMON <charm59@sbcglobal.net> >> >Sent: Aug 3, 2006 10:18 PM >> >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >> >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Calder/McNabb, Calder/McNeil, Calder/White, >> White/Adams, Adams/Macartney >> > >> >Hi Vicki: >> > Welcome to the List! I also have a Catherine McNabb born on Islay abt >> 1803. Mine ended up in Ontario much later- abt 1870. Was your Catherine born >> in Kildalton? Possibly Lurabus or Ballychatrigan? These two farms have a >> variety of spellings- I just chose my favorites. You can find several >> Catherine's baptisms about 1800 in the database. My Catherine married a "cousin", >> John McNabb. I haven't been able to sort out her parents for certain. I do >> have John's. He just had two brothers. They were born 1808, 1809, 1810. I >> think it's interesting your McNabb's went to Carolina first. >> > >> > I'm sure there will be people who know about your other families. And >> there are other McNabb researchers who may be related to yours. Feel free to >> email off-list if you think we have any kind of connection. >> > >> > Carolyn Harmon, Springfield IL > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Click on this link for information on others researching the same families as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ >

Ken, Your infomation if interesting and raises new possibilities. "Our" James (born circa 1780) had children Malcom, John, Flora, Peter, Duncan, and Neill. The adherence to old naming patterns has helped me in the past; maybe it will be again. Thanks. Brenda Cameron -----Original Message----- >From: KenHarrison11@cs.com >Sent: Aug 4, 2006 1:43 PM >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] McNabb > >Whether or not all the McNab(b)s were related, there sure are a lot of dead >ends with them. > >While this string is current, I'd like to put in a plea for anyone who can >pin down some of my own "missing" McNabbs, who were at Ballychatrigin (Oa) from >at least around 1820 until they left for Canada in 1852 (but not all family >members left, so perhaps some stayed there for a while?):. > >Anne (Nancy) McNabb, bap 20 Dec 1820 to Duncan McNabb & Grace Morrison >(sometimes McVoran); possibly married a McFadyen & possibly emigrated in 1852 > >Duncan, John, Donald & Alexander, all born between about 1795 and 1805, to >Donald McNabb. Mother may have been a McKay. > >Andrew McNabb, born about 1807, to Donald McNabb and a second unknown wife. > >Flora McNabb, born about 1781, married about 1797 (probably in Scotland) to >Peter McKellar (are there any McKellars on Islay?). They emigrated to Canada >apparently before 1818 and I found them in 1861 at Kent Co., Rawleigh Twp, >Ontario. They had at least one son, Archibald, born about 1798, possibly in >Islay, and at least one daughter Mary Ann. > >Duncan McNabb, born about 1787 in Islay; died 1870 in Ontario; possibly >unmarried > >Mary McNabb, born 1794 in Islay, emigrated before 1818 to Canada (possibly >via USA) and married near Chatham, Ontario between 1810 and 1818 to James >McLaren. > >Andrew McNabb, born abt 1795 in Islay; probably emigrated to Canada before >1818 > >The four immediately above were siblings. Can anyone identify their parents? > >Janet (Jessie) McNab, b. about 1800, possibly at Coillebus, possibly to a >Duncan McNab. The earliest thing proven about her is her marriage in 1817 to >John MacDougall (Kildalton OPR 541/1: 1817 Mar. 1 John MacDougall a young >man and Janet McNab a young woman both in this parish have been registered in >order to marriage and were married 6th). They had 3 children born between 1818 >and 1824 (found in Kildalton OPR). Later censuses state they were born on the >Oa, possibly at Ballychatrigin. Janet was an ancestor of my wife's, and if >she can be linked to any of the persons shown near the top of this message this >would prove that my wife and I are fifth cousins!! > >Ken Harrison >North Vancouver, Canada > > >In a message dated 04/08/2006 5:31:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, >bbcameron@earthlink.net writes: >> Carolyn, >> Do you have a James MacNab who married Margaret MacNeill in 1805 in >> Kildalton, Islay? James was a tenant farmer at Machry Farm. I have a feeling that >> most of the Islay McNabs were related but can't find the proof. >> Brenda Cameron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: CAROLYN HARMON <charm59@sbcglobal.net> >> >Sent: Aug 3, 2006 10:18 PM >> >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >> >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Calder/McNabb, Calder/McNeil, Calder/White, >> White/Adams, Adams/Macartney >> > >> >Hi Vicki: >> > Welcome to the List! I also have a Catherine McNabb born on Islay abt >> 1803. Mine ended up in Ontario much later- abt 1870. Was your Catherine born >> in Kildalton? Possibly Lurabus or Ballychatrigan? These two farms have a >> variety of spellings- I just chose my favorites. You can find several >> Catherine's baptisms about 1800 in the database. My Catherine married a "cousin", >> John McNabb. I haven't been able to sort out her parents for certain. I do >> have John's. He just had two brothers. They were born 1808, 1809, 1810. I >> think it's interesting your McNabb's went to Carolina first. >> > >> > I'm sure there will be people who know about your other families. And >> there are other McNabb researchers who may be related to yours. Feel free to >> email off-list if you think we have any kind of connection. >> > >> > Carolyn Harmon, Springfield IL > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Click on this link for information on others researching the same families as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ >

Whether or not all the McNab(b)s were related, there sure are a lot of dead ends with them. While this string is current, I'd like to put in a plea for anyone who can pin down some of my own "missing" McNabbs, who were at Ballychatrigin (Oa) from at least around 1820 until they left for Canada in 1852 (but not all family members left, so perhaps some stayed there for a while?):. Anne (Nancy) McNabb, bap 20 Dec 1820 to Duncan McNabb & Grace Morrison (sometimes McVoran); possibly married a McFadyen & possibly emigrated in 1852 Duncan, John, Donald & Alexander, all born between about 1795 and 1805, to Donald McNabb. Mother may have been a McKay. Andrew McNabb, born about 1807, to Donald McNabb and a second unknown wife. Flora McNabb, born about 1781, married about 1797 (probably in Scotland) to Peter McKellar (are there any McKellars on Islay?). They emigrated to Canada apparently before 1818 and I found them in 1861 at Kent Co., Rawleigh Twp, Ontario. They had at least one son, Archibald, born about 1798, possibly in Islay, and at least one daughter Mary Ann. Duncan McNabb, born about 1787 in Islay; died 1870 in Ontario; possibly unmarried Mary McNabb, born 1794 in Islay, emigrated before 1818 to Canada (possibly via USA) and married near Chatham, Ontario between 1810 and 1818 to James McLaren. Andrew McNabb, born abt 1795 in Islay; probably emigrated to Canada before 1818 The four immediately above were siblings. Can anyone identify their parents? Janet (Jessie) McNab, b. about 1800, possibly at Coillebus, possibly to a Duncan McNab. The earliest thing proven about her is her marriage in 1817 to John MacDougall (Kildalton OPR 541/1: 1817 Mar. 1 John MacDougall a young man and Janet McNab a young woman both in this parish have been registered in order to marriage and were married 6th). They had 3 children born between 1818 and 1824 (found in Kildalton OPR). Later censuses state they were born on the Oa, possibly at Ballychatrigin. Janet was an ancestor of my wife's, and if she can be linked to any of the persons shown near the top of this message this would prove that my wife and I are fifth cousins!! Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada In a message dated 04/08/2006 5:31:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, bbcameron@earthlink.net writes: > Carolyn, > Do you have a James MacNab who married Margaret MacNeill in 1805 in > Kildalton, Islay? James was a tenant farmer at Machry Farm. I have a feeling that > most of the Islay McNabs were related but can't find the proof. > Brenda Cameron > > -----Original Message----- > >From: CAROLYN HARMON <charm59@sbcglobal.net> > >Sent: Aug 3, 2006 10:18 PM > >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Calder/McNabb, Calder/McNeil, Calder/White, > White/Adams, Adams/Macartney > > > >Hi Vicki: > > Welcome to the List! I also have a Catherine McNabb born on Islay abt > 1803. Mine ended up in Ontario much later- abt 1870. Was your Catherine born > in Kildalton? Possibly Lurabus or Ballychatrigan? These two farms have a > variety of spellings- I just chose my favorites. You can find several > Catherine's baptisms about 1800 in the database. My Catherine married a "cousin", > John McNabb. I haven't been able to sort out her parents for certain. I do > have John's. He just had two brothers. They were born 1808, 1809, 1810. I > think it's interesting your McNabb's went to Carolina first. > > > > I'm sure there will be people who know about your other families. And > there are other McNabb researchers who may be related to yours. Feel free to > email off-list if you think we have any kind of connection. > > > > Carolyn Harmon, Springfield IL

I am researching the following ISLAY family names. Please contact me if there might be a possible connection. McDERMID/McDIARMID ( there are a few different spellings) - some first names are FINLAY/DUNCAN McCOAG/McCAIG ( there are a few different spellings) - ALEXANDER/ MARY MacNEILL - FLORA KEITH/McKEITH/McKEIGH - some first names are GILBERT/ HUGH NIVEN/McNIVER - ISABELLA I look forward to being a member of this list and hope to make some contacts with other researching the same lines. Dorothy

About four years ago, I corresponded with Stew MacLellan in Canada through this Islay list. At that time, Stew's e-mail address was smaclellan@blue.georgian.net I recently tried to contact Stew at the above address without success. Stew, if you see this, please send me an e-mail at joewest99@cox.net Joe West Tulsa, Oklahoma

Carolyn, Do you have a James MacNab who married Margaret MacNeill in 1805 in Kildalton, Islay? James was a tenant farmer at Machry Farm. I have a feeling that most of the Islay McNabs were related but can't find the proof. Brenda Cameron -----Original Message----- >From: CAROLYN HARMON <charm59@sbcglobal.net> >Sent: Aug 3, 2006 10:18 PM >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Calder/McNabb, Calder/McNeil, Calder/White, White/Adams, Adams/Macartney > > > >Hi Vicki: > Welcome to the List! I also have a Catherine McNabb born on Islay abt 1803. Mine ended up in Ontario much later- abt 1870. Was your Catherine born in Kildalton? Possibly Lurabus or Ballychatrigan? These two farms have a variety of spellings- I just chose my favorites. You can find several Catherine's baptisms about 1800 in the database. My Catherine married a "cousin", John McNabb. I haven't been able to sort out her parents for certain. I do have John's. He just had two brothers. They were born 1808, 1809, 1810. I think it's interesting your McNabb's went to Carolina first. > > I'm sure there will be people who know about your other families. And there are other McNabb researchers who may be related to yours. Feel free to email off-list if you think we have any kind of connection. > > Carolyn Harmon, Springfield IL > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Click on this link for information on others researching the same families as you HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/researchers/ >

Hi Vicki: I am very interested in this family for several reasons. First Thomas Calder MAY( I really have no idea) have been a brother of my GGG Grandmother Elizabeth Calder who married John Gilchrist. Elizabeth and most of her family also went to Canada (Victoria county Ontario). If you know things about Thomas, his parents, and his siblings I sure would like to hear them. My second reason on this one is the North Carolina thing. A group of Islay people went to North Carolina in about 1820 including a brother of the above mentioned John Gilchrist. The brother was Charles Gilchrist who spent the rest of his life in Moore county, North Carolina. I have been studying his life and would like to know more about who was on the 1820 trip and how were they related. Ted Larson CPEN wrote: >Hello all, > >New to the list. Just beginning this journey. I have discovered that my branch of the Calder family originated in Islay. I believe that Thomas Calder was born in Kildalton, Argyle, Scotland in 1792. He and his wife, Catherine McNabb, b. 1797, left Scotland for the U.S. at some point after their marriage in 1818. Their first two sons, Donald b.1825 and Duncan b.1826 were born in North Carolina, U.S.A.. They then moved to Ontario, Canada and their next child, Andrew was b. 1829. They then had Thomas b. 1831, Catherine b.1838 and Margaret b.1840. >Andrew Calder married Mary McNeil (also from Islay) b. 1838. Mary left Islay with her parents, Lauglin McNeil and Elizabeth McCuaig, at the age of approx. 6yrs. Her family settled in the same area of Ontario as the Calders. >Andrew Calder and Mary Mcneil had 8 children one of whom was my great grandmother, Elizabeth May Calder. She married Henry Edward White and they had 5 children, the youngest being my grandmother, Mary Gertrude Victoria White. She in turn married Gordon Adams and they had two children one of them being my mother Sarah Glen m. Macartney. >I have quite a bit of info. on the family here in Ontario but I am not at all sure about where to find information further back than Thomas and Catherine in Islay? >Any suggestions would certainly be welcomed. > >Sincerely, >Vicki > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >Click on this link for some wonderful stories, and general information about Islay: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/misc.htm > > >. > > >

On Aug 3, 2006, at 16:28, CPEN wrote: > > New to the list. Just beginning this journey. I have discovered that > my branch of the Calder family originated in Islay. There are so many!! Islay must have been very crowded at one time. Nancy MacLarty (who can trace her people back to 1753 on Islay)

Hello all, New to the list. Just beginning this journey. I have discovered that my branch of the Calder family originated in Islay. I believe that Thomas Calder was born in Kildalton, Argyle, Scotland in 1792. He and his wife, Catherine McNabb, b. 1797, left Scotland for the U.S. at some point after their marriage in 1818. Their first two sons, Donald b.1825 and Duncan b.1826 were born in North Carolina, U.S.A.. They then moved to Ontario, Canada and their next child, Andrew was b. 1829. They then had Thomas b. 1831, Catherine b.1838 and Margaret b.1840. Andrew Calder married Mary McNeil (also from Islay) b. 1838. Mary left Islay with her parents, Lauglin McNeil and Elizabeth McCuaig, at the age of approx. 6yrs. Her family settled in the same area of Ontario as the Calders. Andrew Calder and Mary Mcneil had 8 children one of whom was my great grandmother, Elizabeth May Calder. She married Henry Edward White and they had 5 children, the youngest being my grandmother, Mary Gertrude Victoria White. She in turn married Gordon Adams and they had two children one of them being my mother Sarah Glen m. Macartney. I have quite a bit of info. on the family here in Ontario but I am not at all sure about where to find information further back than Thomas and Catherine in Islay? Any suggestions would certainly be welcomed. Sincerely, Vicki

Hi Vicki: Welcome to the List! I also have a Catherine McNabb born on Islay abt 1803. Mine ended up in Ontario much later- abt 1870. Was your Catherine born in Kildalton? Possibly Lurabus or Ballychatrigan? These two farms have a variety of spellings- I just chose my favorites. You can find several Catherine's baptisms about 1800 in the database. My Catherine married a "cousin", John McNabb. I haven't been able to sort out her parents for certain. I do have John's. He just had two brothers. They were born 1808, 1809, 1810. I think it's interesting your McNabb's went to Carolina first. I'm sure there will be people who know about your other families. And there are other McNabb researchers who may be related to yours. Feel free to email off-list if you think we have any kind of connection. Carolyn Harmon, Springfield IL

Hello Dorothy! (and all! I'm back from a holiday from my computer -too much company, and its nice to see the lively discussion re research sources, but especially the request about the Carolina Sinclairs.) Yes, I have a lot of info about this branch from Kilchoman parish. Because they were born, married, and had their first child before records were kept in Kilchoman (1821), none of them appear in the records that Ted Larson transcribed. This information comes from the Lucas Cemetery, in Clio, S.C. (I've been there, and have photos) "Sacred to the memory of Daniel Sinclair, born in the parish of Kelekoman, island of Islay, Argyleshire, Scotland March 24, 1794, emigrated to America in 1820 and died Jan. 7, 1855. Aged 60 years, 9 months, 14 days." His wife, Flora McKENZIE buried beside him, born Oct. 18, 1798, died July 27, 1858, aged 59 yrs, 9 mos. 9 days. Their daughter, Catharine, wife of Andrew Cottingham was born in Kilchoman parish Feb 18, 1819. Their son, John K.Sinclair, born Feb. 23, 1822, (the first one NOT born in Islay) died May 9, 1888 J.K.'s wife, Catharine LEITCH,1831, 1894. I've found that Daniel Sinclair had a brother, Archibald, (b. 2 March, 1796, died 2 April, 1850, age 54)is buried in the Sinclair Cemetery at the crossroads near Clio, with his family. Archibald's wife was Catharine McGILIVRAY, b Kilchoman parish, 8 Feb. 1797, and their son John C. "born in the parish of Kelekomar, Island of Islay, Scotland, 15 Dec. 1818. Emigrated to America in 1820, and died 20 Sept. 1853. Aged 34 years, 9 months and 5 days." There are other children buried there too. I've corresponded with several descendants of Daniel and Flora Sinclair, and their family history says that Daniel's parents were Daniel Archibald Sinclair and Mary Campbell, both of Kilchoman Parish. Mary remarried a Joe MacDonald after her first husband died. There is a woman in Texas who told me that Daniel was called "Donald Sinclair" in his estate papers. The family also believe that the Sinclair family spent about 8 yrs. in Canada, and I'm still trying to find them in Canadian records. I'm sorry for going on and on, but I hope this might spark some interest in other list members, because many of the spouses of the children of both Sinclair families married names that have an "Islay ring" to them, such as Leitch, Shaw, McGilivray, Blue. I have a copy of their 1850 census (Marion County) and there are many Clarks on the same page, therefore living nearby. Dorothy, please pass this information to Jim Sinclair. If he has any more questions, perhaps he could contact me directly. Best regards, Toni >From: "Dorothy Bell" <dotross@sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Re Sinclair >Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:20:54 -0400 > > >Hello : > >Can anyone help with this request. >Thanks, > >Dorothy Bell >dotross@sympatico.ca > > > >I am trying to find the parents of my great-great-grandparents: > > > > 1.. Daniel Sinclair born March 24, 1794 in Parrish of Ketmartin, Island >Of Islay, Scotland > 2.. Flora McKenzie born October 18, 1798 in Parrish of Kelokomar, Island >of Islay, Scotland > > >They are both buried in the McLucas Cemetery near Clio, SC > > > >Any help would be appreciated. > > > >Thanks > > > >Jim Sinclair > > > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >You can find older, archived messages from this mailing list by visiting: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/archive1.htm - and from April >1999, you can access archived messages at >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCT-ISLAY > _________________________________________________________________ Play Q6 for your chance to WIN great prizes. http://q6trivia.imagine-live.com/enca/landing

Hi List: I got the following email from Kate Beresford at email address kateberesford@tiscali.co.uk She is related to those who wrote the letters as described. If you wish contact her at the above address. I asked for and received permission from Kathryn to post her email. Ted Larson hello! my name is kathryn,i live in wallasey England and i just wanted to send you an email and thankyou for publishing the letters mentioned above on the internet. i have recently begun researching my family tree through my grandad john douglas spraggett and have discovered the campbell and carmichael connection. my grandads mother was catherine maud smith who's mother christina capmbell was the daughter of george campbell... colin campbells son. christina campbell unless i am mistaken was married to john carmichael smith who's grandfather was in fact neil carmichael married to ann mcarthur. that was all slightly long winded but as a novice of email and family genealogy im unsure of how to explain myself due to the sheer excitement of finding such a connection and seeing the letters in print. hopefully the information i have is correct and i look forward to hearing from you if you have the time,if not thankyou once again for publishing the beautiful letters on your site. yours kathryn.

Hi List Just been asked what's meant by 'seann mhaighdean.' Thought I'd better share the meaning with those of you who don't know or were too polite to ask. 'seann mhaighdean' - an old maid. Mind you 'maighdean' can also mean a shell of a Scallop. Best Wishes Les

Thanks, Mac. Have forwarded your message to Jim Sinclair. Dorothy Bell

Similar information came up a couple of years ago in the Sinclair family search. The parish names cited in this message are wrong but the dates are roughly the same. This MIGHT be a connection although we have not been able to prove anything. Alexander MacKenzie (1745-1820), of Tormistal, Kilchoman Parish, married Flora Campbell (1753-1828). We have records of only four sons but assume/guess that there were very likely other children. With the date and name it is POSSIBLE that the Flora who married Donald/Daniel Sinclair was a daughter of this Alexander and Flora. Other descendants of this family went to South Carolina around 1860 and beyond. I would be very interested in seeing any other information that you have regarding Flora and Daniel...siblings, descendants, etc. From: "Dorothy Bell" <dotross@sympatico.ca> Reply-To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com To: SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Re Sinclair Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:20:54 -0400 > >Hello : > >Can anyone help with this request. >Thanks, > >Dorothy Bell >dotross@sympatico.ca > > > >I am trying to find the parents of my great-great-grandparents: > > > > 1.. Daniel Sinclair born March 24, 1794 in Parrish of Ketmartin, Island >Of Islay, Scotland > 2.. Flora McKenzie born October 18, 1798 in Parrish of Kelokomar, Island >of Islay, Scotland > > >They are both buried in the McLucas Cemetery near Clio, SC > > > >Any help would be appreciated. > > > >Thanks > > > >Jim Sinclair > > > > >==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== >You can find older, archived messages from this mailing list by visiting: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~steve/islay/archive1.htm - and from April >1999, you can access archived messages at >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/SCT-ISLAY >