Thank you so much Margaret for the great information on this McCuaig/McLeod family. It fills in many of the blanks Monta Salmon > > Today's Topics: > > 1. John Mc Leod / McCuaig (Rex Noble) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >

If a couple were married 23 June 1792 in Islay and left that country shortly after the marriage in 1792 for America, how or where would they depart from Islay? This couple were found in North Carolina land records in 1793. Were there ships from the area that came directly to Wilmington, NC or would they arrive in PA or NY. It is thought that they came over with other Scottish and settled in southeastern North Carolina with other Scots in Robeson County North Carolina. I am trying to find the ship they used. Thanks for any help from the group! Don Conoly dconoly@mindspring.com

John Mc Leod, son of Malcolm McLeod & Janet Stewart B1795 Ireland D20th March 1861 Islay And Elizabeth McLeod daughter of William McLeod & Christina Graham B 1794 Islay d 11th July West Taieri, New Zealand Family of John McLeod (McCuaig & Elizabeth McLeod ( McCuaig ) Stewart McLeod. B1829 Oa Islay. D13th January 1912. East Taieri. New Zealand. M Elizabeth Grant. 29th April 1891, b 1853, d April 1934 William McLeod. B1836 Ireland. Bachelor. Malcolm McLeod, b 1835 Ireland, d 28th December 1926. m Jane Hamilton McIntosh. d 20July 1946 Thomas McLeod, b 1843, Ireland. D 30th September 1901. Bachelor Eliza McLeod. b 1844, Islay. D 11th April 1915. m Duncan Campbell. Port Ellen Islay co. Argyll. 23rd January 1862. b 12th May 1839. Islay. Malcolm and Stewart McLeod, together with their cousin Peter McLeod, sailed from Glasgow on William Rankin's famous Clipper Ship the Daniel Rankin on the 5th September 1863. It was a record breaking trip of 90 days under Captain Alexander Muller, carrying 155 passengers and cargo, which arrived in Port Chalmers on the 7th December 1863. The Daniel Rankin, a 193.3 sailing clipper of 1048 tons was wooded sheather with yellow metal, wooden masts and spars and was built to special surveys in Dumbarton, Scotland in 1858. The Centenary of the arrival of the Daniel Rankin was celebrated by descendants of the early pioneers on 31st July 1963. On that occasion, Dame Flora MacLeod of MacLeod wrote - " It is a very great occasion and I think it is a fine thing that we should be proud of our forefathers and our Clan and honour the pioneers who helped to build the great city of Dunedin and the great country of New Zealand. Scotland is indeed proud of the courageous men and women who left her shores to build the Commonwealth. Stewart Mcleod was 34 years of age when he migrated to Otago. He first worked on farms at Brighton, Kuri Bush and Taieri Mouth and later moved to Woodside, West Taieri, where for many years he was associated with his brothers Malcolm, Thomas and William in the propietorship of the Woodside Dairy Factory. He married Elizabeth Grant of Granton Farm and engaged in its management for a long period. Granton cocsisted of 160 acres of rich Taieri land and in addition more land was leased from the Shand Estate. Stewart McLeod, like many other of that ilk had a long and successful life and passed away in 1912 at the age of 83. His wife Elizabeth died on 17th April 1934 aged 81 years. At the age of 12, Malcolm left home to live with an aunt in Glasgow where he learned the trade of carpentry and building. When he arrived in Otago at the age of 28. he first worked for Mr James MacAndrew and the went to Cottesbrook and Deepdale and worked for Mr J Bruce. In company with Mr J M Samson. He later carted timber from the Rock and Pillar, through the Styx, Linnburn and over the Raggedys to the Manuherikia goldfields at Alexandra. He later took up coastal farm land at " Graybrook " Brighton.and was also engaged on bridge building on the Brighton to Taieri Mouth road. He married Jane Hamilton McIntosh at Brighton and in 1877, after farming Graybrook for several years, he bought 400 acres of " Maori Heads " tussoch and swamp fron francis McDiarmid, who had previously bought it for a Mr ward in the United kingdom. Mr Ward unfortunately died on the voyage to New Zealand and the land became known as " Wardlands". The McLeod drained, cleared and developed Wardlands turning it into an excellent farm. When the McLeod cattle was driven across from Brighton to the Taieri, the bullocks made a string one mile long. Malcolm passed away at Wardlands on the 28th December 1926 aged 91 and his wife Jane on the 20th July 1946 aged 90. Both are buried at West Taieri on the knoll overlooking the land they loved so well. Thus we have another artisan who was able to successfully turn his hand to the land and achieve a reasonable degree of prosperity by dint of great endeavour in tomes which often gave mearge remuneration for hard work. Malcolm McLeod returned to Isaly in 1866 and brought back his 75 year old mother Elizabeth and his sister Eliza and her husband Duncan Campbell. >From early Census records the spelling of McLeod was in Gaelic - hence McCuaig - and in some other instances McQuaig. The about is a copy of a small part of a booklet print in 1989 relating to the McCuaig / McLeod / Campbell Tree. It may be of interest to other McCuaig etc. and may help me in my search of family from Islay. Margaret Noble.

On Ted Larsen's wonderful webpage - there is a link to a listing of wills in the early days of Islay. On this list is a will that I would love to have more details on: MCNEILL Neill, sometime of the Island of St. Christopher's, Merchant, who afterwards resided at Ardtally 4 Feb. 1777 Has anyone had a look at this will? Is anyone related to this man? Kind regards Nolene Johannesburg

Hi Christime Good to hear from you. Unfortunately there isn't an 1851 census for Oro. Nottawasaga isn't in Oro, but it is still in Simcoe County but several miles north east of Oro. George's parents were John Campbell and Flora Campbell. He had sisters Flora Ann and Martha. There are births for a Flora, Martha and George (as well as at least one other child) in the Killarow baptismal records but John's date is wildly different than what can be calculated from later records. I think the baptismal record says 1818 (maybe earlier) but at the time of his 1860 2nd marriage he was said to be 38. His 2nd wife, Jane/Jean Guthrie was a good bit older (the marriage was said to having been arranged by my grandmother's grandfather). I think her age was given as 40 but she was at least 44 at the time. These Campbells were one of the first families in Oro at least by 1835, living on the 7th Concession. The lot number escapes me. I 'm just jotting these notes from memory, but I have seen some sort of early land record/tax roll indicating father John's presence. I haven't been successful in locating information on John sr. and Flora, other than the parents on the birth records for the John, Martha and Flora stating they were around Bowmore somewhere. Martha Campbell married a Thomas Law(u)rence and went to live in the Stratford, Ontario area. Flora Ann married an Emms and remained in Oro for the rest of her life. Both are buried at Guthrie Cemetery George, and his second wife, Jane/Jean Guthrie returned to Scotland and took up residence in Jane's neck of the woods - Forfar, lat living in Arbroath. They are both buried at Menmuir in Forfar, now Angus. Both were described as 'living on own means' or on an annuity in the 1871 and 1881 census. George died in 1874 and Jane in 1880. We are in the process of moving to a new home which is currently under construction, and we find ourselves living like gypsies for tne next two or three months with most of our belongings, including most of my files, in storage for the duration! In the meantime this is what I know off the top of my head, but I'll be glad to share the details of any of the documents that I have once I get my hands on them again. I Have always been very curious about George's first wife and what became of his children. I'll certainly keep in touch with you on this one = and hope that if anyone else out there can add something to this, I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks Christine - Helen PS I'll try working on the Black River and other locations. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t waste time standing in line—try shopping online. Visit Sympatico / MSN Shopping today! http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca

Hi Helen, That would be great if this is the same family. I'll try to check the 1851 census and see if I cand find them in Oro. Oops I just noticed that tombstone you mentioned said 1847. Well I'll do some digging and see what I can find. Isn't Nottawasaga in Oro Twp? Nottawasaga is where Catherine's older sister, Mary McDougall, moved to when she married Malcolm Currie. I wonder if any of the other sisters moved in that direction too. Unfortunately I don't have any other info on this family. Would you mind sending me the info you have off-line and I'll see what digging I can do (if there's any more info to be found)? when I looked up Black River in the Ontario Locator it listed 3 sites : So. Marysborough Twp in 'Prince Edward County; Black River Island; Matheson Twp in the Cochrane Dist. Are any of these near Oro? I can't find my Ontario map at the moment. I could not find any location by the name of Fawkins. One last question : does the book Kith 'N' Kin cover this area or Oro and would this family be listed in the book if it does? Christine Harenberg Helen Campbell blair <helen.blair@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi Christine Just noticed the following on your recent post and certainly got quite excited when I realized the names are exactly the same as an family I am interested in. " Fifth daughter, Catherine McDougall, bn Aug 14, 1823 and married George Campbell. Per family info they had children John Campbell, Alexander Campbell, & James Campbell. Next to the info on John it lists Black River, & Fawkins. Next to the info on Alexander it lists Chicago, IL. I can't find anymore info on this family." The George of my interest was in Oro with his second wife (a distant aunt of mine) who he married in 1860. They returned to Scotland before 1871. His sons were John, Alex and James. Only Alex and James were at home in Oro in the 1861 census. I only know about John from his father's will. Fior sometime I was unable to find out anything about George's first wife - his death registration indicated she was Mary McDougald - but the information being provided by his 2nd wife's niece, as I recall, so who knows how we can depend on the accuracy of her information. There is a tombstone at Knox Oro, 1847 for CAtherine _____, wife of George Campbell. This surely must be George's wife as there was only one other George around Oro, and it very definitely is not him. It sounds to me that we are talking about the same George Campbell. What more can you tell me about Catherine and George and their children. If I can establish that we are talking about the same family, I woul d be happy to provide you any details re George should you hav e interest in him. Thanks kindly Helen cousins that remained in Grastle, Oa in the 1870s. The McDougall's living there at the time were children of Allan McDougall and Anne Gilchrist. The family info I have indicates that a sibling(s?) remained on Islay so it appears that Allan was also a brother to John. Helen Alsop of the Beaverton Thorah Eldon Historical Society appears to be related to Malcolm and I through this line.] > > Since I'm already writing about this family I'll put out a query >regarding some of the descendents that I can't find once they moved to >Ontario and perhaps someone has some info that can help shed some light on >their whereabouts. John & Christina moved from Islay to Thorah Twp in >Ontario in abt 1831. Their son Alexander moved to Blackwater, Ontario near >Brock Twp (not sure when) > > First daugther of John & Christina was Christina bn Feb 26, 1812. She >married a Mr. Bullock. I can't find a marriage registration (I realize it >is prior to the 1869 registration time frame but I didn't see them on the >MacMurchy marriage registrations either), birth registration for any >children or locate where they lived. > > Third daughter, Margaret McDougall, bn Jan 17, 1818 married a Mr. >McDonald. I cannot find a marriage registration, birth registration for >any children or locate where they lived. > > Fourth daughter, Flora McDougall, was bn Dec 29, 1820 and married Duncan >MacCuaig. Again I cannot locate this family. > > Fifth daughter, Catherine McDougall, bn Aug 14, 1823 and married George >Campbell. Per family info they had children John Campbell, Alexander >Campbell, & James Campbell. Next to the info on John it lists Black River, >& Fawkins. Next to the info on Alexander it lists Chicago, IL. I can't >find anymore info on this family. > > 6th daughter, Elizabeth McDougall, bn Apr 22, 1826. Family info lists >Eldon Station next to her info. I have not had the chance to look for her >in the census records at Eldon yet. I don't know if she married or >remained single. > > 7th daughter, Marion (Minnie) McDougall was bn Jan 21, 1829. I don't >have any more info on Minnie. > > I have found the most info on the son (8th child) Alexander's >descendents but have been unable to locate Alexander's children Christina >and James. Probably born in the 1860s or 1870s. > > If anyone can shed some light on these McDougall descendents and their >family members, I would be very appreciative. > > Christine Harenberg > >KenHarrison11@cs.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/09/2006 12:54:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, >malcolmr.campbell@sympatico.ca writes: > > Hi John > > > > I have a John McDOUGALL b. 1771 Islay at Grastle, the Oa, Islay. They > > immigrated to Ontario, settling in Thorah Twp., Beaverton, ON circa >1832. > > > > His wife was Christina McDOUGALL (nee), b. 1794, also Grastle. > > > > They brought 8 children born over 18 years, none named John. > > > > Good hunting, > > > > Malcolm CAMPBELL > > ****************** > >Malcolm, > >As I understand it (not my own research, but another Lister), John's >parents >were Alexander McDougall & Christina (Christian) Sinclair, and he had >siblings >Catherine (m. John Smith) and Angus or Peter (m. Margaret McCuaig). > >Is this the same man? >If so, I have no info on his descendants, and would appreciate learning >about >the details of the 8 children. > >Ken Harrison >North Vancouver, Canada > >Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... >HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) >POTCHIT Yorkshire >FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) >GREAVES Yorkshire > London >GRIFFIN Staffordshire >STANLEY Staffordshire >SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania >STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow >BAIN Caithness >MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. Africa >SPENCE Orkney >FOTHERINGHAM Orkney >TRAILL Orkney >SELKRIG Lanark >WICKETSHAW Lanark >MORRISON Perthshire > Dumbarton > Glasgow > Australia (Vic) >MORRISON Islay > Ontario >BAIRD Renfrew >HAM Australia (Vic) >THOMPSON Suffolk > Yorkshire >AGGUS Suffolk >BRIGHTWELL Suffolk >LAWSON Clackmannanshire > Ontario >McNABB Islay > Ontario >MURRAY Dumfries > Renfrew >SINCLAIR Perthshire > Renfrew >GILLESPIE Dumfries >HENDERSON Dumfries >TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries + Lanark >CALDWELL Tyrone > Renfrew >GRAHAM Tyrone > Ontario >Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. > >Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no >intentional >attachment on this e-mail transmission. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Buy what you want when you want it on Sympatico / MSN Shopping http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/content/shp/?ctId=2,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081805 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Ted, No need to apologize . . . your website is most helpful and much appreciated! Marilyn Alberta, Canada ****************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Larson" <tlarson@usfamily.net> To: "Sct-Islay" <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:15 AM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Omission in my 1841 census transcription > Hi List: > > I am sorry to say that I missed two sections of the Kilmeny census of > 1841 when I did the transcription. There were nearly 300 names that > were not included. It came to light when one of our subscribers went to > 'free census' and found their Lindsay ancestors but did not find them in > my transcription. I have corrected this omission and included those > missing in each section where they should be included and made a special > section for those left out. > > The census can be found by going to > HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ > and clicking on the appropriate lines. > > Sorry!! > > Ted Larson > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Christine Just noticed the following on your recent post and certainly got quite excited when I realized the names are exactly the same as an family I am interested in. " Fifth daughter, Catherine McDougall, bn Aug 14, 1823 and married George Campbell. Per family info they had children John Campbell, Alexander Campbell, & James Campbell. Next to the info on John it lists Black River, & Fawkins. Next to the info on Alexander it lists Chicago, IL. I can't find anymore info on this family." The George of my interest was in Oro with his second wife (a distant aunt of mine) who he married in 1860. They returned to Scotland before 1871. His sons were John, Alex and James. Only Alex and James were at home in Oro in the 1861 census. I only know about John from his father's will. Fior sometime I was unable to find out anything about George's first wife - his death registration indicated she was Mary McDougald - but the information being provided by his 2nd wife's niece, as I recall, so who knows how we can depend on the accuracy of her information. There is a tombstone at Knox Oro, 1847 for CAtherine _____, wife of George Campbell. This surely must be George's wife as there was only one other George around Oro, and it very definitely is not him. It sounds to me that we are talking about the same George Campbell. What more can you tell me about Catherine and George and their children. If I can establish that we are talking about the same family, I woul d be happy to provide you any details re George should you hav e interest in him. Thanks kindly Helen cousins that remained in Grastle, Oa in the 1870s. The McDougall's living there at the time were children of Allan McDougall and Anne Gilchrist. The family info I have indicates that a sibling(s?) remained on Islay so it appears that Allan was also a brother to John. Helen Alsop of the Beaverton Thorah Eldon Historical Society appears to be related to Malcolm and I through this line.] > > Since I'm already writing about this family I'll put out a query >regarding some of the descendents that I can't find once they moved to >Ontario and perhaps someone has some info that can help shed some light on >their whereabouts. John & Christina moved from Islay to Thorah Twp in >Ontario in abt 1831. Their son Alexander moved to Blackwater, Ontario near >Brock Twp (not sure when) > > First daugther of John & Christina was Christina bn Feb 26, 1812. She >married a Mr. Bullock. I can't find a marriage registration (I realize it >is prior to the 1869 registration time frame but I didn't see them on the >MacMurchy marriage registrations either), birth registration for any >children or locate where they lived. > > Third daughter, Margaret McDougall, bn Jan 17, 1818 married a Mr. >McDonald. I cannot find a marriage registration, birth registration for >any children or locate where they lived. > > Fourth daughter, Flora McDougall, was bn Dec 29, 1820 and married Duncan >MacCuaig. Again I cannot locate this family. > > Fifth daughter, Catherine McDougall, bn Aug 14, 1823 and married George >Campbell. Per family info they had children John Campbell, Alexander >Campbell, & James Campbell. Next to the info on John it lists Black River, >& Fawkins. Next to the info on Alexander it lists Chicago, IL. I can't >find anymore info on this family. > > 6th daughter, Elizabeth McDougall, bn Apr 22, 1826. Family info lists >Eldon Station next to her info. I have not had the chance to look for her >in the census records at Eldon yet. I don't know if she married or >remained single. > > 7th daughter, Marion (Minnie) McDougall was bn Jan 21, 1829. I don't >have any more info on Minnie. > > I have found the most info on the son (8th child) Alexander's >descendents but have been unable to locate Alexander's children Christina >and James. Probably born in the 1860s or 1870s. > > If anyone can shed some light on these McDougall descendents and their >family members, I would be very appreciative. > > Christine Harenberg > >KenHarrison11@cs.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/09/2006 12:54:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, >malcolmr.campbell@sympatico.ca writes: > > Hi John > > > > I have a John McDOUGALL b. 1771 Islay at Grastle, the Oa, Islay. They > > immigrated to Ontario, settling in Thorah Twp., Beaverton, ON circa >1832. > > > > His wife was Christina McDOUGALL (nee), b. 1794, also Grastle. > > > > They brought 8 children born over 18 years, none named John. > > > > Good hunting, > > > > Malcolm CAMPBELL > > ****************** > >Malcolm, > >As I understand it (not my own research, but another Lister), John's >parents >were Alexander McDougall & Christina (Christian) Sinclair, and he had >siblings >Catherine (m. John Smith) and Angus or Peter (m. Margaret McCuaig). > >Is this the same man? >If so, I have no info on his descendants, and would appreciate learning >about >the details of the 8 children. > >Ken Harrison >North Vancouver, Canada > >Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... >HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) >POTCHIT Yorkshire >FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) >GREAVES Yorkshire > London >GRIFFIN Staffordshire >STANLEY Staffordshire >SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania >STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow >BAIN Caithness >MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. Africa >SPENCE Orkney >FOTHERINGHAM Orkney >TRAILL Orkney >SELKRIG Lanark >WICKETSHAW Lanark >MORRISON Perthshire > Dumbarton > Glasgow > Australia (Vic) >MORRISON Islay > Ontario >BAIRD Renfrew >HAM Australia (Vic) >THOMPSON Suffolk > Yorkshire >AGGUS Suffolk >BRIGHTWELL Suffolk >LAWSON Clackmannanshire > Ontario >McNABB Islay > Ontario >MURRAY Dumfries > Renfrew >SINCLAIR Perthshire > Renfrew >GILLESPIE Dumfries >HENDERSON Dumfries >TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries + Lanark >CALDWELL Tyrone > Renfrew >GRAHAM Tyrone > Ontario >Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. > >Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no >intentional >attachment on this e-mail transmission. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Buy what you want when you want it on Sympatico / MSN Shopping http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/content/shp/?ctId=2,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081805

Hi Ted Thanks for all your hard work - It is always very much appreciated ! ! Cheerio Helen > >I am sorry to say that I missed two sections of the Kilmeny census of >1841 when I did the transcription. There were nearly 300 names that >were not included. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t waste time standing in line—try shopping online. Visit Sympatico / MSN Shopping today! http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca

Hello Ken, I subscribe to a website called OZships@yahoogroups.com and there was a discussion not long ago about the "Daniel Rankin". I can't remember what it was about, but the people at this site are very helpful. Carol Rowe (Currie)

Looking for descendants of JOhn Cameron b 1836, son of MAry Campbell and Donald Cameron Susan

Hi List: Rootsweb made some changes to the list this week which may have changed the way you receive your digest messages. If you were receiving them in MIME format before they are now different. If you want to go back to MIME email me off list and I will change them.

Hi List: I am sorry to say that I missed two sections of the Kilmeny census of 1841 when I did the transcription. There were nearly 300 names that were not included. It came to light when one of our subscribers went to 'free census' and found their Lindsay ancestors but did not find them in my transcription. I have corrected this omission and included those missing in each section where they should be included and made a special section for those left out. The census can be found by going to HTTP://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~tlarson/bdm/ and clicking on the appropriate lines. Sorry!! Ted Larson

The best way to help with the research on those Hebridean families, who descend from the Ardnamurchan Mac Eain family, is to participate in the DNA test. Six families have been located, all are a DNA match to each other and to the already test Mac Dónaill chiefs. All located and ancestry confirmed via DNA testing. One of these families is a Johnston from Islay, so we may have located the DNA pattern of the Ardnamuchan Mac Eain family. We expect this because they match a known descendant of the Glencoe Mac Eain, their close cousins. Anyone with an interest in participating in the test can visit the web site listed below to find out how. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mccaindna/ The Mac Eain families are McCain group 03 in the results page. Anglicised surnames are two McCains, two McKanes, one McKean and a Johnston. Barra McCain McCain DNA Project

Hi All. I'm committing a breach of netiquette by replying to a digest and leaving the original subject line intact, but this is a special case -- today's digest was Volume 1, Number 1. I guess this is something of a milestone. Checking the archives, it also appears the list is now available via RSS feed in addition to the customary email format: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/rss/s/sct-islay/SCT-ISLAY.rss or click the "RSS" button at the bottom of the archive page. I'll stick with the digest for a while longer :-) jim

Ken, This is the same family line that you mentioned. I have John's wife Christina as being born in Bowmore. Her parents were John MacDougall and Mary MacDermid.. I have recently being doing research on this side of the family though have had some trouble locating some of the descendants. I'll let Malcolm respond to your request as I noticed you sent him a response off line. He has a lot of information on John and Christina's 2nd child's descendents, which is his direct family line. [Also family info & John Ramsay of Kildalton info indicates that the McDougall family in Thorah had cousins that remained in Grastle, Oa in the 1870s. The McDougall's living there at the time were children of Allan McDougall and Anne Gilchrist. The family info I have indicates that a sibling(s?) remained on Islay so it appears that Allan was also a brother to John. Helen Alsop of the Beaverton Thorah Eldon Historical Society appears to be related to Malcolm and I through this line.] Since I'm already writing about this family I'll put out a query regarding some of the descendents that I can't find once they moved to Ontario and perhaps someone has some info that can help shed some light on their whereabouts. John & Christina moved from Islay to Thorah Twp in Ontario in abt 1831. Their son Alexander moved to Blackwater, Ontario near Brock Twp (not sure when) First daugther of John & Christina was Christina bn Feb 26, 1812. She married a Mr. Bullock. I can't find a marriage registration (I realize it is prior to the 1869 registration time frame but I didn't see them on the MacMurchy marriage registrations either), birth registration for any children or locate where they lived. Third daughter, Margaret McDougall, bn Jan 17, 1818 married a Mr. McDonald. I cannot find a marriage registration, birth registration for any children or locate where they lived. Fourth daughter, Flora McDougall, was bn Dec 29, 1820 and married Duncan MacCuaig. Again I cannot locate this family. Fifth daughter, Catherine McDougall, bn Aug 14, 1823 and married George Campbell. Per family info they had children John Campbell, Alexander Campbell, & James Campbell. Next to the info on John it lists Black River, & Fawkins. Next to the info on Alexander it lists Chicago, IL. I can't find anymore info on this family. 6th daughter, Elizabeth McDougall, bn Apr 22, 1826. Family info lists Eldon Station next to her info. I have not had the chance to look for her in the census records at Eldon yet. I don't know if she married or remained single. 7th daughter, Marion (Minnie) McDougall was bn Jan 21, 1829. I don't have any more info on Minnie. I have found the most info on the son (8th child) Alexander's descendents but have been unable to locate Alexander's children Christina and James. Probably born in the 1860s or 1870s. If anyone can shed some light on these McDougall descendents and their family members, I would be very appreciative. Christine Harenberg KenHarrison11@cs.com wrote: In a message dated 12/09/2006 12:54:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, malcolmr.campbell@sympatico.ca writes: > Hi John > > I have a John McDOUGALL b. 1771 Islay at Grastle, the Oa, Islay. They > immigrated to Ontario, settling in Thorah Twp., Beaverton, ON circa 1832. > > His wife was Christina McDOUGALL (nee), b. 1794, also Grastle. > > They brought 8 children born over 18 years, none named John. > > Good hunting, > > Malcolm CAMPBELL > ****************** Malcolm, As I understand it (not my own research, but another Lister), John's parents were Alexander McDougall & Christina (Christian) Sinclair, and he had siblings Catherine (m. John Smith) and Angus or Peter (m. Margaret McCuaig). Is this the same man? If so, I have no info on his descendants, and would appreciate learning about the details of the 8 children. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GREAVES Yorkshire > London GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. Africa SPENCE Orkney FOTHERINGHAM Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire > Dumbarton > Glasgow > Australia (Vic) MORRISON Islay > Ontario BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk > Yorkshire AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannanshire > Ontario McNABB Islay > Ontario MURRAY Dumfries > Renfrew SINCLAIR Perthshire > Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries + Lanark CALDWELL Tyrone > Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone > Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Depends where the boat was registered and which port it was connected to by the company which hired it to make the voyage. I found a birth for my Grandfather's sister on the voyage out, by looking at a site which registered 'Births at Sea". They came out to New Zealand, on the 'Rodney' in 1875. The baby was born on the voyage out, but not registered on arrival. She was registered when the boat returned to London. So her birth was registered as 'on board,' but not till several months after the actual birth. Celia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn" <mwales@telusplanet.net> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com>; <LANARK-L@rootsweb.com>; <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Merchant Marine Civil Registration > Hello, Ken, > > You could the UK National archives at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ . > Type in 'birth overseas' in the search space (without the quotation marks, > of course). > > Good luck, > > Marilyn > Alberta > > ************************************************* > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <KenHarrison11@cs.com> > To: <LANARK-L@rootsweb.com>; <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:20 PM > Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Merchant Marine Civil Registration > > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction to find a 1864 birth > > registration > > for a birth which took place on a UK ship out of Glasgow to New Zealand? > > The > > baby was the son of the ship's captain, on board the "Daniel Rankin". > > > > IGI (source checked but found blank) states that the birth was registered > > at > > Singapore, probably in early May 1864. > > > > Years ago I read through the fiche for the Merchant Marine Civil > > Registration, but could not find any entries for this year. Perhaps it > > has been made more > > complete by now and/or transcribed and available on line? > > > > Ken Harrison > > North Vancouver, Canada > > > > Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no > > intentional > > attachment on this e-mail transmission. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 12/09/2006 12:54:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, malcolmr.campbell@sympatico.ca writes: > Hi John > > I have a John McDOUGALL b. 1771 Islay at Grastle, the Oa, Islay. They > immigrated to Ontario, settling in Thorah Twp., Beaverton, ON circa 1832. > > His wife was Christina McDOUGALL (nee), b. 1794, also Grastle. > > They brought 8 children born over 18 years, none named John. > > Good hunting, > > Malcolm CAMPBELL > ****************** Malcolm, As I understand it (not my own research, but another Lister), John's parents were Alexander McDougall & Christina (Christian) Sinclair, and he had siblings Catherine (m. John Smith) and Angus or Peter (m. Margaret McCuaig). Is this the same man? If so, I have no info on his descendants, and would appreciate learning about the details of the 8 children. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada Only a genealogist regards a step backwards as PROGRESS ... HARRISON Yorkshire > Staffordshire > London (Highgate/Hampstead) POTCHIT Yorkshire FISHER London (Highgate/Hampstead) GREAVES Yorkshire > London GRIFFIN Staffordshire STANLEY Staffordshire SMELLIE Lanark > Orkney > Glasgow > Canada + Tasmania STIRRAT Ayrshire > Glasgow BAIN Caithness MILLER Caithness > Swaziland + S. Africa SPENCE Orkney FOTHERINGHAM Orkney TRAILL Orkney SELKRIG Lanark WICKETSHAW Lanark MORRISON Perthshire > Dumbarton > Glasgow > Australia (Vic) MORRISON Islay > Ontario BAIRD Renfrew HAM Australia (Vic) THOMPSON Suffolk > Yorkshire AGGUS Suffolk BRIGHTWELL Suffolk LAWSON Clackmannanshire > Ontario McNABB Islay > Ontario MURRAY Dumfries > Renfrew SINCLAIR Perthshire > Renfrew GILLESPIE Dumfries HENDERSON Dumfries TICKET (TAKET) Dumfries + Lanark CALDWELL Tyrone > Renfrew GRAHAM Tyrone > Ontario Genealogists never die ... they just lose their census. Unless specifically stated otherwise in this message, there is no intentional attachment on this e-mail transmission.

John McDougall, I have been looking for a man by your name for 30 years, but he was born 1813-17 on Islay. Was he a relation of yours? Celia. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JohnMcDougall9@aol.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Islay Johnstons, Johnsons & McCains > > > Hi Barra, > My name is John McDougall . My mother's maiden name is Johnston and > she and family come from Islay . I know that we are descended from a Hector > Johnston who moved to Islay from Coll sometime between 1841 and 1851 . Coll of > course is "next door" to Ardnamurchan . I know of Hector's father , Allan > Johnston , who was born on Coll in 1792 to a Neil Johnston and a Mary McKinnon. > If I can help your data search let me know. > Le gach deagh dhurachd, > John > > In a message dated 09/09/2006 20:05:53 GMT Standard Time, > failte@watervalley.net writes: > > Recently I located a Johnston family from Islay, which we confirmed via DNA > testing, is the same family as the Mac Donaill chiefs. This means they are > most likely the Ardnamurchan Mac Eain family, the same folk who make (the > most excellent) whiskey named Laphroaig. I am the head of the DNA Project > researching these families. I wanted to post on the Islay board, to ask any > Islay Johnstons, Johnsons, Mac Eain, McKean, McKane, McCains, etc., to get > in touch with me. We also now have the Glencoe Mac Eain family tested. > What we are doing now is getting more data so that we can tell the Islay Mac > Eain family from their paternal kinsmen, the Glencoe Mac Eain family. > > > > Anyone who knows any of these people on Islay, or descendants of them in the > Diaspora, please contact me. > > > > > > Mise le meas, > > > > Barra McCain > > McCain DNA Project > > Oxford MS > > USA > > > > ==== SCT-ISLAY Mailing List ==== > Here is a link related to tracing your ancestors on the Isle of Islay: > http://www.isle-of-islay.com/genealogy/index.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John I have a John McDOUGALL b. 1771 Islay at Grastle, the Oa, Islay. They immigrated to Ontario, settling in Thorah Twp., Beaverton, ON circa 1832. His wife was Christina McDOUGALL (nee), b. 1794, also Grastle. They brought 8 children born over 18 years, none named John. Good hunting, Malcolm CAMPBELL ****************** -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JohnMcDougall9@aol.com Sent: September 12, 2006 8:08 AM To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Islay Johnstons, Johnsons & McCains Celia, Sorry ...no. My McDougall ancestry is not from Islay. John In a message dated 12/09/2006 11:42:11 GMT Standard Time, celia_geary@infogen.net.nz writes: John McDougall, I have been looking for a man by your name for 30 years, but he was born 1813-17 on Islay. Was he a relation of yours? Celia. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JohnMcDougall9@aol.com> To: <SCT-ISLAY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Islay Johnstons, Johnsons & McCains