Oops! DOB should have been 1876 - 1877. I have spent too long looking at the 1851 Census. Regards Charles ------

The "U" indicates she was "Unmarried", just as the "M" oppossite Hector and Isabella's name indicates they were "Married." Joe West, Tulsa Oklahoma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren McFadyen" <warmac@telus.net> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Mary Catherine McFadyen > May I please ask. What is the meaning of the letter "U" in this > information? > > Warren, > peace > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Charles & Ruth Houston" <chouston@f2s.com> > To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:13 AM > Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Mary Catherine McFadyen > > >> Hi Warren, >> >> Acccording to her age of 4 on the 1881 Census - Mary Catherine McFadyen >> was >> born in Campbeltown most likely in 1846 i.e. between 1st week April 1846 >> to >> 1st week April 1847, >> >> Regards >> >> Charles >> >> -------- >> Dwelling: 23 High St >> Census Place: Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland >> Source: FHL Film 0203555 GRO Ref Volume 507 EnumDist 12 Page >> 4 >> Marr Age Sex Birthplace >> Hector MC FADYEN M 40 M Coll, Argyll, Scotland >> Rel: Head >> Occ: Mason Journeyperson >> Isabella MC FADYEN M 34 F Barrhead, Renfrew, Scotland >> Rel: Wife >> Mary C. MC FADYEN 4 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland >> Rel: Daur >> Isabella M I MC FADYEN 1 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland >> Rel: Daur >> Mary CAMPBELL U 26 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland >> Rel: Sister In Law >> Occ: Grocer >> Flora JOHNSTONE U 17 F Kilmeny Par, Argyll, Scotland >> Rel: Servant >> Occ: Servant Domestic >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Warren, Acccording to her age of 4 on the 1881 Census - Mary Catherine McFadyen was born in Campbeltown most likely in 1846 i.e. between 1st week April 1846 to 1st week April 1847, Regards Charles -------- Dwelling: 23 High St Census Place: Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203555 GRO Ref Volume 507 EnumDist 12 Page 4 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Hector MC FADYEN M 40 M Coll, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Mason Journeyperson Isabella MC FADYEN M 34 F Barrhead, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Wife Mary C. MC FADYEN 4 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Daur Isabella M I MC FADYEN 1 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Daur Mary CAMPBELL U 26 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Sister In Law Occ: Grocer Flora JOHNSTONE U 17 F Kilmeny Par, Argyll, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Servant Domestic

May I please ask. What is the meaning of the letter "U" in this information? Warren, peace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles & Ruth Houston" <chouston@f2s.com> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Mary Catherine McFadyen > Hi Warren, > > Acccording to her age of 4 on the 1881 Census - Mary Catherine McFadyen was > born in Campbeltown most likely in 1846 i.e. between 1st week April 1846 to > 1st week April 1847, > > Regards > > Charles > > -------- > Dwelling: 23 High St > Census Place: Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203555 GRO Ref Volume 507 EnumDist 12 Page 4 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Hector MC FADYEN M 40 M Coll, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Mason Journeyperson > Isabella MC FADYEN M 34 F Barrhead, Renfrew, Scotland > Rel: Wife > Mary C. MC FADYEN 4 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Isabella M I MC FADYEN 1 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Mary CAMPBELL U 26 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Sister In Law > Occ: Grocer > Flora JOHNSTONE U 17 F Kilmeny Par, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Servant > Occ: Servant Domestic > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is wonderful! Sincere thanks Charles. Warren, peace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles & Ruth Houston" <chouston@f2s.com> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Mary Catherine McFadyen > Hi Warren, > > Acccording to her age of 4 on the 1881 Census - Mary Catherine McFadyen was > born in Campbeltown most likely in 1846 i.e. between 1st week April 1846 to > 1st week April 1847, > > Regards > > Charles > > -------- > Dwelling: 23 High St > Census Place: Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0203555 GRO Ref Volume 507 EnumDist 12 Page 4 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Hector MC FADYEN M 40 M Coll, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Mason Journeyperson > Isabella MC FADYEN M 34 F Barrhead, Renfrew, Scotland > Rel: Wife > Mary C. MC FADYEN 4 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Isabella M I MC FADYEN 1 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Mary CAMPBELL U 26 F Campbeltown, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Sister In Law > Occ: Grocer > Flora JOHNSTONE U 17 F Kilmeny Par, Argyll, Scotland > Rel: Servant > Occ: Servant Domestic > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all Here's an extract from this weeks Campbeltown Courier : "Now everyone can read Lorn Life the latest publication from The Oban Times Group. The full colour magazine is given away free each month with copies of The Oban Times on sale in Oban, Lorn and Mull. With just the click of a mouse you too can enjoy Lorn Life. It is packed full of stories and features all about the people who live in this part of the West Highlands. Look out for Life through the Lens which features photographs from our archives. Scene Around takes you to the area's top social events. There are regular reviews of books and CDs with a Lorn flavour and articles by Lorn Life's own birdlife enthusiast Stuart Gibson. Visit the website" http://www.lornlife.com/ In typical Oban Times fashion this article does not appear in their Oban issue which covers Lorn - presumably because it, Lorn Life, is included in hard copy in the Oban, Lorn and Mull edition. Regards Les .

Hello Johan Thanks for the welcome. Yes, all from the Bowmore area in all three census years. The 1881 census shows Ann McEwan age 4 from Bowmore, Argyll, Scotland, as granddaughter of John McEwan, the head of the family. The 1891 census gives the whole McEwan family as born in Kilarrow except Malcolm's wife Marion, who comes from Kildalton. The 1901 census shows John and Annie as born in Argyllshire Islay, along with their host uncle and aunt Alexander Sinclair and Elizabeth Sinclair ms McEwan. In fact Annie had just married in 1901 and appears as Annie Stracey, but I have her marriage certificate which shows she was previously Annie McEwan. Interestingly, on her marriage certificate she shows her father as Malcolm McEwan (deceased) and her mother as Mary McEwan M.S. McLugish (deceased): this is a bit of a fib because her birth certificate shows she was the illegitimate daughter of Mary McLugash and I can find no record of a later marriage. I have more information on this McEwan family from Bowmore, mostly from GROS, which I will gladly share if anyone is interested. What I am not so sure about is whether this reasonably well documented family is linked to me by the person I knew as John McEwan St. Clair. My feeling is that it is the most likely possibility but, having no other genealogical experience, I don’t know how much to rely on this feeling. Out of interest, his three children, all sons, were each given McEwan as a middle name - it was obviously of some importance to him. 1891 census for Cruach, Kilarrow: John McEwen - Head - Mar - 80 - Farmer - Argyleshire Kilarrow Ann McEwen - Wife - Mar - 78 - do's wife - Do Do Malcolm McEwen - Son - Mar - 40 - Farmer's son - Do Do Marion Do - Daur in Law - Mar - 23 - do's daur in law - Do Kildalton Ann Do - Grand Daur - 13 - Scholar - Do Kilarrow John Do - Grand Son - 7 - Scholar - Do Do Maggie Do - Grand Daur - 6 - Scholar - Do Do Betsy Do - Grand Daur - 3 - Do Do Catherine Do - Grand Daur - 1 - Do Do Ashley Ashley St. Clair "It ain't so much the things we don't know that gets us in trouble. It's the things that we know that ain't so." - Artemis Ward -----Original Message----- From: sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sct-islay-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of J LOCHRIDGE Sent: 23 September 2006 18:01 To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] McEwan St Clair Name Change Hello and welcome Ashley, Can I ask where the were reported on Census records 1891 and 1901 as having been born? and have you found Annie in 1881? Johan <snip> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 22/09/2006

Hello and welcome Ashley, Can I ask where the were reported on Census records 1891 and 1901 as having been born? and have you found Annie in 1881? Johan ----- Original Message ---- From: ashley@rosslynhealth.co.uk To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 23 September, 2006 2:19:58 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] McEwan St Clair Name Change Hi Everyone Having lurked on the list for some time I would like to ask for your opinion on a weak link in my family research. I suspect that my forebears come from Islay, partly from vague family tradition and partly from a tentative conclusion drawn from the following initial research. My grandfather was John McEwan St. Clair. His death certificate and marriage certificate both suggest he was born around 1883-1884 and had parents Alexander St. Clair and Elizabeth St. Clair nee McEwan. Although he was a proud Scot I can find no record of his birth in Scotland, even allowing for a few years leeway and the very many spellings of St. Clair and Sinclair. Nor can I find him in England & Wales (GRO), or anywhere easily searchable on the Internet. But I have found, in the 1901 census, Alexander Sinclair and his wife Elizabeth McEwan living in Cathcart, Glasgow, along with their nephew John McEwan (17) and niece Annie McEwan (23). This would make John McEwan the same age as my grandfather, and living with, if not adopted by, a couple with remarkably similar names to the people my grandfather claimed were his parents. The 1891 census shows the same (presumably) John McEwan (7) and Anne McEwan (13) living in Cruach, a rented croft near Bowmore, with their grandfather John McEwan as head of the family, his son Malcolm McEwan, Malcolm’s wife Marion and three other grandchildren. It looks as if John and Annie were Malcolm’s illegitimate children, whereas the other three were born to Malcolm’s wife Marion. The two men of the family died in 1893 (Malcolm) and 1896 (Grandfather John) and there are no McEwans in Cruach after this date – presumably the tenancy lapsed with no male older than 13 in the family. The other three grandchildren went with their mother Marion who remarried in 1896 but John and Annie turn up, as a mentioned earlier, with their aunt Elizabeth who was Malcolm’s older sister.

Hi Everyone Having lurked on the list for some time I would like to ask for your opinion on a weak link in my family research. I suspect that my forebears come from Islay, partly from vague family tradition and partly from a tentative conclusion drawn from the following initial research. My grandfather was John McEwan St. Clair. His death certificate and marriage certificate both suggest he was born around 1883-1884 and had parents Alexander St. Clair and Elizabeth St. Clair nee McEwan. Although he was a proud Scot I can find no record of his birth in Scotland, even allowing for a few years leeway and the very many spellings of St. Clair and Sinclair. Nor can I find him in England & Wales (GRO), or anywhere easily searchable on the Internet. But I have found, in the 1901 census, Alexander Sinclair and his wife Elizabeth McEwan living in Cathcart, Glasgow, along with their nephew John McEwan (17) and niece Annie McEwan (23). This would make John McEwan the same age as my grandfather, and living with, if not adopted by, a couple with remarkably similar names to the people my grandfather claimed were his parents. The 1891 census shows the same (presumably) John McEwan (7) and Anne McEwan (13) living in Cruach, a rented croft near Bowmore, with their grandfather John McEwan as head of the family, his son Malcolm McEwan, Malcolm’s wife Marion and three other grandchildren. It looks as if John and Annie were Malcolm’s illegitimate children, whereas the other three were born to Malcolm’s wife Marion. The two men of the family died in 1893 (Malcolm) and 1896 (Grandfather John) and there are no McEwans in Cruach after this date – presumably the tenancy lapsed with no male older than 13 in the family. The other three grandchildren went with their mother Marion who remarried in 1896 but John and Annie turn up, as a mentioned earlier, with their aunt Elizabeth who was Malcolm’s older sister. Is it reasonable to assume from this somewhat circumstantial evidence that John McEwan, having lost his father, been abandoned at age 10 to 13 by the woman who probably brought him up as a mother, and then looked after by a family of Sinclairs, might have changed his name to John McEwan St. Clair? Or is it more likely that my grandfather was born a St. Clair but the birth was never recorded or remains for me to find? Finally, I know that changes of name were rarely recorded in Scotland at that time, but can any list members think of any other way to refute or verify my theory? Many thanks Ashley Ashley St. Clair "It ain't so much the things we don't know that gets us in trouble. It's the things that we know that ain't so." - Artemis Ward -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 22/09/2006

Searching for the birth date of Mary Catherine McFadyen who married Gilbert McSporran. Probably born in Campbeltown between 1874 and 1880. Parents were Hector McFadyen & Isabella MacIntyre Campbell. Thanks for any help. Warren, peace

Hi Monta His will is on my list to download next time I am on the Scottish Archives site - hopefully some time over the weekend. I will keep you posted. rgds Nolene

Would Shirley Sedore please contact me off list. We have mutual ancestors on our Rootsweb pages, McDOUGALLs at Grastle. Malcolm CAMPBELL malcolmr.campbell@sympatico.ca

Do either of you have a copy of John Hutton's book on Islay. I'm curious about what it might have in it about the Gilchrist families and what the price of the book is and where I can get it. I would like to try to research some of the pre 1800 things that might be available. Ted

Let us know if you find it please Ted......... Ann Do either of you have a copy of John Hutton's book on Islay. I'm curious about what it might have in it about the Gilchrist families and what the price of the book is and where I can get it. I would like to try to research some of the pre 1800 things that might be available. Ted

Hi all - been a long while since I've posted to these lists, so please forgive the cross-post if it's against the rules. Not sure if anyone was already aware of this reference to Dr. Colin MacTavish of Isla (sic) in the Letters of Letitia (MacTavish) Hargrave (1813-1854): http://tinyurl.com/phhuu Letitia is of the fur-trading MacTavish family (the clan chief's line), possible connections of which to my Islay/Jura/Mull MacTavishes I have being trying to determine for some time. In this excerpt, Letitia speaks (albeit unflatteringly!) of Colin as if she knew him previously, but there is no real clue as to the nature of the acquaintance or of any family relationship. Anyone else have any clues? Dr. Colin (1794-1856) is the son of my ancestor Dugald MacTavish (1750-1828) of Laggan. Dugald married one Anne Campbell. I have no information on her yet - she may be from Mull, or Islay, or elsewhere - so thought I would take this opportunity to see if she rang a bell. FYI, I am descended from Colin's brother Dugald, who emigrated to Quebec, Canada circa 1843. Cheers, Deb

Hi Don, I agree with Sue, there is a VERY large, active group of genealogists in the Carolinas, and do they ever know their Islay/Carolina history! I went to one of their symposiums (ias?), in March, 2002 at Laurinburgh, NC, and I was absolutely overwhelmed with their interest and knowledge. I'm sure there is at least one NC list on Rootsweb which would be helpful. Unfortunately, you didn't mention any family names in your message to this list. Would you mind sharing that with the rest of us, in case we are trying to trace the same family/ies? We have a Sinclair family from Islay who settled around the north/south Carolina border, but didn't get there till the 1820s. They probably followed somebody who already settled there ahead of them. Toni Sinclair, tracing all Islay Sinclairs >From: dconoly@mindspring.com >Reply-To: dconoly@mindspring.com, sct-islay@rootsweb.com >To: sct-islay@rootsweb.com >Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Leaving Islay >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 20:12:43 -0400 (GMT-04:00) > >If a couple were married 23 June 1792 in Islay and left that country >shortly after the marriage in 1792 for America, how or where would they >depart from Islay? This couple were found in North Carolina land records in >1793. Were there ships from the area that came directly to Wilmington, NC >or would they arrive in PA or NY. It is thought that they came over with >other Scottish and settled in southeastern North Carolina with other Scots >in Robeson County North Carolina. I am trying to find the ship they used. >Thanks for any help from the group! >Don Conoly >dconoly@mindspring.com > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Buy what you want when you want it on Sympatico / MSN Shopping http://shopping.sympatico.msn.ca/content/shp/?ctId=2,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=081805

In a message dated 16/09/2006 9:17:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, R.Noble@xtra.co.nz writes: > Malcolm and Stewart McLeod, together with their cousin Peter McLeod, sailed > from Glasgow on William Rankin's famous Clipper Ship the Daniel Rankin on > the 5th September 1863. It was a record breaking trip of 90 days under Captain > Alexander Muller, carrying 155 passengers and cargo, which arrived in Port > Chalmers on the 7th December 1863. The Daniel Rankin, a 193.3 sailing clipper > of 1048 tons was wooded sheather with yellow metal, wooden masts and spars and > was built to special surveys in Dumbarton, Scotland in 1858. The ship's captain was Alexander MILLER. He was a brother of my great-great grandmother, and was born in Wick, Caithness. Ken Harrison North Vancouver, Canada

Hi Nolene I am sure that you probably already know that you can view this will on Scotlands People (for a fee of course). I have checked and it is listed there. I wonder if he is possibly the grandfather to a Lachlan McNeil who married Elizabeth McCuaig 15 Jan 1834 and who left Islay for Ontario sometime after 1846. He died there 3 Aug 1909 aged 100 years and 8 months according to his tombstone. Monta > > On Ted Larsen's wonderful webpage - there is a link to a listing of wills > in > the early days of Islay. On this list is a will that I would love to have > more details on: > > MCNEILL Neill, sometime of the Island of St. Christopher's, > Merchant, who afterwards resided at Ardtally 4 > Feb. 1777 > > Has anyone had a look at this will? Is anyone related to this man? > > Kind regards > > Nolene > > Johannesburg > *************************************** > >

I agree - thanks for sharing Margaret! Sue Visser ----- Original Message ----- From: "Monta Salmon" <monta49@platinum.ca> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] SCT-ISLAY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 5 Thank you so much Margaret for the great information on this McCuaig/McLeod family. It fills in many of the blanks Monta Salmon > > Today's Topics: > > 1. John Mc Leod / McCuaig (Rex Noble) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Don There is a very active group called the North Carolina Scottish Heritage Society who could likely help you http://www.theargyllcolonyplus.org/ Cheerio Sue Visser Ontario, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <dconoly@mindspring.com> To: <sct-islay@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:12 PM Subject: [SCT-ISLAY] Leaving Islay If a couple were married 23 June 1792 in Islay and left that country shortly after the marriage in 1792 for America, how or where would they depart from Islay? This couple were found in North Carolina land records in 1793. Were there ships from the area that came directly to Wilmington, NC or would they arrive in PA or NY. It is thought that they came over with other Scottish and settled in southeastern North Carolina with other Scots in Robeson County North Carolina. I am trying to find the ship they used. Thanks for any help from the group! Don Conoly dconoly@mindspring.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCT-ISLAY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message